Want to know who is creating fake AdultWork profiles?

[Tony Montana]

I've been having problems with a AW alias recently, so using google to find out more about aliases, I come across this

External Link/Members Only

Awwwww... shame 

[xuan]

Great find, Lex.

But is it wrong that I still feel a little bit sorry for the cunt?

[Cactus]

What a scum bag, what is that forum???  A place for scoundrels and con-men to discuss ways to rip people off?  The guy is so brazen about it all & generally it's about 20posts in before somebody brings up the fact that what he is doing is wrong etc...

I'd like to think that sites like UK Punting and the good work done by various members here to out scammers (Jacob especially springs to mind) have put a spanner in the works of a jackass like this guy. 

What happens to the £16k though?  Nice easy profit for adultwork?

[philuk1uk]

What happens to the £16k though?  Nice easy profit for adultwork?

Yep I reckon so, I bet they make a tidy sum closing down fake profiles and genuine profiles that break their T&C's.

[LickIt]

I might not have read the whole thread assiduously enough, but I saw no mention of IP address. Surely once they found him scamming from one IP address, they'd have looked for similar scams from the same IP address and closed the lot down. I assume Adultwork block known IP masking services? 

[Tony Montana]

I've been having a play with Adultwork to try and work out where my problem with aliases came from.

It seems that it isn't just IP address that AW uses.  As soon as you go to External Link/Members Only it puts 8 cookies on your system which it can later use to identify you as a previous user.

As I've been using a semi-public computer I seem to have acquired an alias of someone else who used the same machine.  Lesson learnt is to always use "private browsing" or "Incognito" mode so that all history & cookies are removed at the end of the session.

[Jimmyredcab]

Great find, Lex.

But is it wrong that I still feel a little bit sorry for the cunt?

Yes, it is wrong to feel sorry for him.
He has been stealing money from people like us, my opinion, fuck him.

[The President]

He deserves what he has got, wasnt his money in the first place!

Adultwirk should take an admin fee and reimburse the rest, but I assume they keep it all!

[Hogan]

Adultwirk should take an admin fee and reimburse the rest, but I assume they keep it all!

AdultWork are like Galawank of ProssieNet, more interested in their profits rather than punters.

[Jacob]

We are well aware of this thread and it has been posted before for example HERE.

I like the "I'm aware of UKpunting that thread makes painfull reading! "

External Link/Members Only

Just illustrates that reporting the cunts does have some impact. Nothing worse for the scammer to see their 'profits' disappear after all the hard 'work'.

Don't be fooled use Google Reverse Image Search and Tineye and report the cheats. 

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=4834.0

[NIK]

Don't feel sorry for the conning cunt at all, he deserves all he gets. It isn't as if he has lost the money anyway as it wasn't his to lose.

[Jimmyredcab]

Don't feel sorry for the conning cunt at all, he deserves all he gets. It isn't as if he has lost the money anyway as it wasn't his to lose.

I am amazed that anyone can feel sorry for him, it is like a bank robber getting caught and having his assets frozen under the proceeds of crime act.   
If you steal money you should expect to lose it when caught.

[spz1234]

My McAfee site advisor says that is a risky site but I think I get the gist.

[Jimmyredcab]

My McAfee site advisor says that is a risky site but I think I get the gist.

Very strange.
I use McAfee and it shows as "green" ------- in other words safe.     

[Melb]

Feel sorry for him?
Maybe - after I'd had 5 minutes with him and a crowbar.

AW should put the money in a fund and use it to pay back punters who have been conned. Starting with me 

[Strawberry]

The money wasn't his in the first place, however with such large amounts he should have made sure he was cashing it in regularly. Also proves my suspicion/theory that a lot of guys are involved in the scams, not soley WGs(or those who pretend to be).

[AnthG]

Also proves my suspicion/theory that a lot of guys are involved in the scams, not soley WGs(or those who pretend to be).

To be honest for me I have never once thought any WG's/females were involved in the fake PG scams. When I think of who creates them personally I think its either geeky guys who think they are being clever trying to scam some cash, or really dodgy foreign individuals.

If it were a female the likely 'scam' she will do is offer cam/videos but claim she is an escort (we see them all the time, Escort at £500 / hour but also offers direct cam).

[supernoodle]

Just illustrates that reporting the cunts does have some impact. Nothing worse for the scammer to see their 'profits' disappear after all the hard 'work'.

Sorry for digging up an oldish thread but I found it a fascinating read.

I would assume for a scammer running a few profiles successfully it would take more time for them to be created than it does us to report them in your thread?

[Jacob]

Sorry for digging up an oldish thread but I found it a fascinating read.

I would assume for a scammer running a few profiles successfully it would take more time for them to be created than it does us to report them in your thread?

No problem about the thread I expect many missed it and it's an eye-opener and I refereed to it yesterday elsewhere anyway.

Definitely, reporting a profile is a quick process and they mostly go depending on the evidence, any pictures that they don't own and it's curtains. If there is no image match it takes a bit of 'monitoring' and a reasoned argument as to it being fake is mostly taken on-board by Adultwork, though it does on occasion take a few attempts. I swear they sometimes have a trainee on duty.

They'll sometimes set the profile as 'Erotic Content' initially and later I notice it's suspended whilst it sometimes just stays as content only. Who knows what action goes on behind the scenes when it comes to actually paying out though not that I'm suggesting they sometimes sit on a profile and let it gather more credits (profit).

On the image matching some Pro$$ieNet Pro$$ies will suggest it's unfair as the girls may have done some porn or modelling, I say bollocks to that crap and take some new ones though it must be difficult with the availability of devices these days. Some of these fools haven't got a clue to the extent of scamming and exposing the bogus ones helps genuine girls as well.

[Matium]

So I just awoke this morning to find out I'd just had £16k of my hard earned money completely disappear!

How did this travesty occur? Well for the past two months I've been on a massive ewhoring mission, dedicating 12-14 hours a day creating fake escort profiles on the site adultwork.com, throughout the process I'd used various means to avoid detection, all the usuals like using proxies, taking screenshots of obscure russian women to obtain images etc etc. However at precisely 11:11 am I recieved a ton of emails tto my numerous accounts saying profile after profile had been suspended!

I've lost all the money that the profiles had earned through sale of "private image galleries" over the last couple of months. I'm now highly suspicious of AdultWork as I can't for tthe life of me figure out how they managed to suss out all these fake profiles (around 400 in total) AT THE SAME TIME! Do they just automatically take your money and run after a certain time? I just don't know.

If ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE can help me figure this nightmare out, I will be extremely appreciative and hopefully cross your palm with silver if I ever manage to cash out on this damn site! Please help im at my wits end!

What a scumbag!

I hope somebody's reported that thread to Adultwork.

It's amazing how shamelessly brazen some people are.

He deserves everything he gets!

[Matium]

If you can make $16K tricking horny guys into buying shit you can surely make that much doing more legit stuff. Take your talents and energy and put them into legit money makers. It will be one less thing you will have to worry about, and will save you a lot of stress.

I agree with you, but unfortunately in times like these I really don't have any options ,I've tried and failed with hundreds of ideas some legit, others less so, so when I find something that works Im gonna stick to it. The way I see it, I don't feel bad for conning horny guys out of a couple of bucks to see some pictures, at the end of the day, I don't believe for a second these guys actually care whether the images are genuine or not, we all know how easy it is to get some scud for free so if they're gonna be the suckers who pay for it them I'm happy to bank off them.


I have a feeling that the site is shady and didnt have the intention to pay most there members in the first place

Yeah, that's still a major concern of mine and I can't seem to get to the bottom of it. I've spoken on saafe.info forum to some genuine escorts who use the site and even they are completely undecided about the legitimacy of the site, it seems to be 50/50 horror stories/success stories on AW.

He's on Saafe as well! (obviously using a fake escort name).

I hope the ladies on here, who also go on Saafe, will report this to the Saafe moderators so that he can be kicked out from there!

[Boy]

....£16k of my hard earned money completely disappear!

From the very start,  that's the part that gets him/her zero sympathy from me.

Hard earned?

Whoever he/she is, they are nothing but parasitic,  robbing money from people who 'did' earn their money the hard way.

Getting an income by deception is not "hard earned", in my book. Glad he/she lost the lot.

[James999]

I hope somebody's reported that thread to Adultwork.

They know about the profiles they deleted them 

And they clearly don't give a fuck as they get to keep any cash / credits the scammer had 

[Matium]

That Blackhatworld forum seems to be a forum for scammers. I hope Adultwork keep an eye on it.

[AnthG]

He's on Saafe as well! (obviously using a fake escort name).

I hope the ladies on here, who also go on Saafe, will report this to the Saafe moderators so that he can be kicked out from there!

Do you know his Saafe username?

You would think the ladies of Saafe would be more on the ball as the mods here are able to spot an escort posing as a punter pretty quick. Surprised they cannot too.

But I would say if ever there was someone who deserves taken out and beaten its this guy. AW don't care. They should return the money to the punters when fake accounts are found not just keep it!

The guy hurts punters and Escorts - as I have read the threads on %%% of Escorts criticising the reporting of escorts on AW. Its people doing this which causes it as it causes total mistrust. AW is rife with fake profiles. I would guestimate there are about 2 to 1 of fake profiles on AW.

I really hate this guy with a passion.

[James999]

You would think the ladies of Saafe would be more on the ball

Washed up old pro$$ies past their sell by date are not the sharpest, they thrive on gossip urban myth and paranoia 

All the guy has to do is pretend to be an overweight pro$$ie who once had a no show and they will welcome him with open arms 

[Matium]

Do you know his Saafe username?

No, I don't know his Saafe username but it'll be very easy for the Saafe moderators to catch him, this is what he said on 4 February 2011 (they use American date format 02/04/2011):

I've spoken on saafe.info forum to some genuine escorts who use the site and even they are completely undecided about the legitimacy of the site, it seems to be 50/50 horror stories/success stories on AW.

All that the Saafe moderators have to do is go through the Adultwork threads from that time and they'll find him.

I have a feeling it'll be on one of the Saafe boards that are kept hidden from the general public.

[NIK]

Do you know his Saafe username?

You would think the ladies of Saafe would be more on the ball as the mods here are able to spot an escort posing as a punter pretty quick. Surprised they cannot too.

But I would say if ever there was someone who deserves taken out and beaten its this guy. AW don't care. They should return the money to the punters when fake accounts are found not just keep it!

The guy hurts punters and Escorts - as I have read the threads on %%% of Escorts criticising the reporting of escorts on AW. Its people doing this which causes it as it causes total mistrust. AW is rife with fake profiles. I would guestimate there are about 2 to 1 of fake profiles on AW.

I really hate this guy with a passion.

Hear, hear!

[Jackrabbit]

Why all the constant bitching about AW? As far as I can see when you lot report a dodgy profile it is taken down sharpish. It wouldn't surprise me if AW admin reads this forum. I'm curious to know what suggestions you would have for AW admin to be able to weed out fake profiles. Perhaps some of you have some super tech powers that normal humans aren't aware of?

[AnthG]

I'm curious to know what suggestions you would have for AW admin to be able to weed out fake profiles. Perhaps some of you have some super tech powers that normal humans aren't aware of?

How about off the top of my head, no private galleries until you have a feedback of 5 each made from people with a feedback of 5 themselves.

Its the Private Galleries that brings out the scammers nothing else really.

I know people can still manipulate that. But like DVD/Music/Game piracy the trick is to make things as difficult as possible for the fraudster to keep the numbers down and make people feel the reward is not worth the effort not to eradicate it entirely.

[Jacob]

Why all the constant bitching about AW? As far as I can see when you lot report a dodgy profile it is taken down sharpish. It wouldn't surprise me if AW admin reads this forum. I'm curious to know what suggestions you would have for AW admin to be able to weed out fake profiles. Perhaps some of you have some super tech powers that normal humans aren't aware of?

Fuck Off.

This members IP address is worthy of a ban alone, most likely a scamming fuckwit. 

[James999]

Fuck Off.

Post of the week 

Moderation at it's best 

[AnthG]

Post of the week 

Moderation at it's best 

Yeah. 

I was actually hoping it was the admin from AW, with the coy way he had said things. And my suggestion was going to be taken onboard as a good one.

[Jacob]

Post of the week 

Moderation at it's best 

 

Actually, looking at it a bit more closely it is likely one of the sisterhood IMhumbleO.

[Matium]

The Sisterhood have a habit of proliferating.

[jacksparrow11]

I have noticed that when you report a problem to AW these days they act more Swiftly than before, perhaps they have taken on more mods? 

[NIK]

Actually, looking at it a bit more closely it is likely one of the sisterhood IMhumbleO.

Another disgusting bastard who evidently condones scams and rip offs.
Should be fucking ashamed, but they aren't.

[Jacob]

Another disgusting bastard who evidently condones scams and rip offs.
Should be fucking ashamed, but they aren't.

These idiots have little better to do than abuse genuine Punters and decent Pro$$ies who they despise, they will do anything to anyone to please the other sad fuckers in their pathetic little group. It should be noted that jackrabbit's only other post was to attempt to denigrate another member. Unfortunately I or anyone else did not seem to have picked up on this at the time.

In a roundabout way we can take comfort from such actions, they must stay up all night worrying about UKP as well as bullying Punters on Pro$$ieNet and posting bollocks elsewhere. They should spend some of the time dusting their phones and wiping down their screens with baby-wipes, both of which don't can any business related use either.

[Jacob]

How about off the top of my head, no private galleries until you have a feedback of 5 each made from people with a feedback of 5 themselves.

Its the Private Galleries that brings out the scammers nothing else really.

I know people can still manipulate that. But like DVD/Music/Game piracy the trick is to make things as difficult as possible for the fraudster to keep the numbers down and make people feel the reward is not worth the effort not to eradicate it entirely.

They'd be no profit in that for Adultwork and girls rely on a few credits to display their numbers, fair enough and that way it's all free advertising.

They could start by vetting new profiles before they can accrue any credits. If I can spot 20+, or whatever, a day so could they and then some. They have access to far more information than we as ordinary members do. It's all about the $.

[MidlandsMaidens]

Outsider looking in here, as we only use AW to check out applicant profiles and nothing more.

But from a 'stopping scammers using private galleries' point of view, I'd say that the obvious way to do this is by only allowing Verified Members to use PGs, together with the possibility of a 'licence fee' in order to be able to publish their PGs, which would dissuade many of the scamming fraternity.

I suppose it all comes down to whether AW place the importance of cash above integrity.

[MidlandsMaidens]

If a pro$$ie is advertising herself for free and keeping all of the cash she earns why would she employ a pimp / agency who would want a cut of her money?

Because - as many of the punters on this and many other boards who have had a shit punt will testify - there are many of these girls that are advertising for free that will never be able to do this job while they have a hole in their arse and are trying another plan to get some work. There are also some that are fed up of doing their own admin and trying out a new platform. It is our job to find out into which of the above categories an applicant falls.

[James999]

their own admin

What admin does a pro$$ie have?

Phone rings, time agreed, cash paid, shags punter, punter leaves, cash put in purse / spent.

[MidlandsMaidens]

Yeah, ok then. I'll leave you with that illusion

[James999]

Yeah, ok then. I'll leave you with that illusion

You may like to try to "Gloss it up" and make it sound compolicated to justify taking a cut of the pro$$ies earnings, but the reality is that is how it is, Phone call, pay, shag, spend.

What next you going to tell us you help them with their accounts and tax returns 

[James999]

I would say the main reason for a girl coming to an agency is so that they dont have to put up with utter bollox spouted by some punters

The utter bollox they get is  spouted to them by the agency / pimp and are expected to pay for it 

[MidlandsMaidens]

The utter bollox they get is  spouted to them by the agency / pimp and are expected to pay for it

As I said before - I'll leave you with your illusion

[James999]

As I said before - I'll leave you with your illusion

It's clear who's deluded, with claims of being Nottinghams premier agency and yet only having 4 girls   

[AnthG]

but the reality is that is how it is, Phone call, pay, shag, spend.

One of the rare times I disagree with you.

For one as you have said yourself Escorts on large are not that intelligent of people (no offence to any escort, just repeating something), and thus may not have the ability to manage a difficult website or profile.

Other reasons it seems many have boyfriends / husbands unaware of what they are doing and thus they cannot explain away the time on the computer managing their profile.

Others want to use agency properties for incalls and not their own home.

If agencies were no use they would have became extinct shortly after AW came about. They didn't as they must serve a use.

[James999]

If agencies were no use they would have became extinct shortly after AW came about. They didn't as they must serve a use.

Well Nottinghams "Premier Agency" only appears to have 4 girls, so there can't be that much demand from the girls 

[smiths]

There is certainly a demand for Agencies in London, some have been around for many years. For me there is no advantage to going through an Agency unless a WG i fancy is only as far as i know available through them. This scenario occured last in 2009 and the Agency were a bunch of lying cunts. I count them out of my punting nowadays.

An Agency might be open 24/7 or very long hours so that is an advantage to some punters, i can wait till Indies are available myself. Agencies or some at least can offer a choice of WGs immediately in theory, again i can wait till an Indie is about.

Thats about it, so in exchange for these advantages i would have to pay a minimum of £150 an hour to go through a reputable and well reviewed Agency with feedback. Its not VFM to me when i know i can punt with good Indies from £70-130 an hour and slap bang in Central London is HOD South Kensinston who presumably make a profit yet charge £120 an hour and have WGs i have punted with at Parties and that are highly rated by FRs and by feedback. So they have 2 WGs on per day in their Parlour but dont open weekends. They just prove to me the utter greed of Agencies in London, many of whom charge over £200 an hour. A Parlour also offers a WG the premises and in theory due to numbers a safer environment so in theory they should charge more than an Agency to the WG who rarely offer the premises, the WGs uses her own or a hotel and like an Indie works alone. Yet the cut is often the same with both, a third of the WGs fee to the Establishment, sometimes with Agencies a half.  They will always get punters, be it the mug punter, the tourist punter or the rich who doesnt care what he pays punter, or punters like NIK who has found a gem in Nicoletti (may be wrong spelling) and sticks with her as he knows she delivers every time.