Grace of Diamonds

[superfurryanimal]

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This was a one and a half hour incall, with the price as indicated on the Diamonds website.

This is the first non-positive review of an escort that I've had to write, as up until this punt all the girls I've seen have been great. Therefore, I'm going to keep this review short and stick to the salient points rather than 'waxing lyrical' like I've done in previous reviews (it's a neutral, so I'm not going to I suppose by default).

Communication:

Communication with Diamonds was fine, the booking process was straightforward with a choice of girls being available, none of which I'd seen before. I was out and about and hadn't done my homework beforehand before choosing Grace.

Venue:

One of the Diamonds venues by the river Tyne.

Services:

OWO, handjob, RO, 69, sex (missionary, cowgirl & doggy).


Meeting:

First of all, let me say that Grace is a nice, friendly and intelligent girl and we did chat throughout the booking, so that's a positive as far as I'm concerned. She's got a willowy physique which was nice and she is nice enough looking, but not my type I suppose. She was dressed nicely, so all in all at first inspection I thought it was going to be a good encounter.

First negative; no DFK, if I'd known this beforehand I wouldn't have booked her. I know some of you aren't bothered about this, but it detracts from the experience as far as I'm concerned. I tried to ignore the lack of DFK and enjoy the encounter which I was still sure I would at this point. However, in my opinion I didn't think the services indicated above were delivered with the same amount of enthusiasm as the other ladies I've seen. Once I'd popped once I didn't really feel like going again. It didn't help that her blowjob technique wasn't that great either; not a patch on the other girls I've seen. So I really was struggling to get a hard on to fuck her again, so in the end I called it a day and left earlier than I probably would have done otherwise, 15 minutes before the end of the appointment.


Summary:

In the evening on the day of the punt, I looked up Grace on UKP. I found she has a mixed bag of reviews; what worried me most was that she 'bunnyboilered' AnthG after he reviewed her when she was called Charlotte. She was nice enough to talk to, but her lack of enthusiasm was a turn off for me. I guess we didn't click or she didn't like the look of me. I showered at the venue and I'm always polite and courteous, so it couldn't have been lack of hygiene or rudeness on my part. I'm going to put this one down to experience; i.e. do your homework before making a booking and avoid spur of the moment punt decisions unless you know the lady, or are prepared for a possible less than satisfactory experience. At the very least though, I would expect some sort of enthusiasm from an escort. In balance I don't think Grace warrants a negative review, but I wouldn't book her again. In this particular instance the phrase 'every day is a school day' does spring to mind.

[sentinel]

If you hadn't met Grace before and it was a spur of the moment booking then perhaps it might have been better to have just gone for the half hour first time round.

Diamonds don't advertise the range of services that girls provide so the fact that she didn't do DFK is unfortunate but as you hadn't seen her before then it was always possible that could happen.

I would only book a one and a half hour (or longer) appt. with someone who I had seen before and had come away with a positive experience.

Some girls tend to give the impression that they are just going through the motions as regards clients but as I have not met Grace myself I am not in a position to give an opinion about her.

As the saying goes- buyer beware.

[johnr1]

Sorry you don't rate Grace superfurryanimal I have seen her a few times over the years and never had a problem she would be in my top 5 or so girls and her owo was 10/10 as was sex and dfk 

she has a stunning fit body and I have always had a good time with her, but as you say if you dont click then its not going to be fun and having a girl just going through the motions is not good at all, Anthg met her and was very unhappy with the service I met her the very same day and thought wow this girl is fantastic and equal to tori taylor  in many ways IMO

[superfurryanimal]

I agree with both of your sentiments and you're right she's got a nice figure. I will not be booking girls again without having looked on here first; a schoolboy error on my part. As for half an hour appointments; I would still book an hour for a first encounter, but that's my preference.

Thanks guys.

[Bertie Bubble Master]

Strange how Graces reviews vary, I see her as Charlotte and Grace, both times she was well up for it, oral without, kissing, oral on her and deep throat kissing never seems to be a problem with me, maybe it depends on what mood she is in or how horny she is or maybe if she just likes the look of the guy

[foreverchanges]

Looks like the ginger one was back again.

[greychap]

If you did not enjoy the service fair enough.

But I think you cannot expect to get DFK with an agency when they don't list what is on offer and this is why some girls work for agencies rather then advertising there likes on AW so they don't feel pressurised.

I don't tend to have DFK on a punt because I really am not that bothered about it and it turns me off if they do CIM and from what I can gage a lot of girls hate dfk but only do it sometimes because they feel pressured and worry they might get a bad review.

I think its good to check reviews on here if you really need certain services that way there is more chance of you getting it.

[foreverchanges]

I've seen Grace a couple of times now and I realise you 're never going to get five sets of Tonsil Tennis with her but DFK is never really a deal breaker for me.
I have to say that her soft kissing is a real turn on and definitely one of the best GFEs around.

[greychap]

I've seen Grace a couple of times now and I realise you 're never going to get five sets of Tonsil Tennis with her but DFK is never really a deal breaker for me.
I have to say that her soft kissing is a real turn on and definitely one of the best GFEs around.

For me as long as a escort is friendly and easy to get on with, does not try to get rid of you before time up that is what I mainly want from a service.

This girl seems like she would suit me from what I want in a service.

[johnr1]

I mentioned this forum to Grace and she does keep an eye on what is said as do many girls which is a good thing and may help them get back on track?

Grace did say that she has to have a bit of an attraction with the punter or she can't get into it properly which I can understand  if things where reversed and we where sitting in a flat or hotel room waiting for punters and someone not to our liking came to the door it would be difficult to get into the spirit of things, I know its the job they choose but they are only human ate the end of the day and never had a problem with Grace one of the top girls around 

[greychap]

I mentioned this forum to Grace and she does keep an eye on what is said as do many girls which is a good thing and may help them get back on track?

Grace did say that she has to have a bit of an attraction with the punter or she can't get into it properly which I can understand  if things where reversed and we where sitting in a flat or hotel room waiting for punters and someone not to our liking came to the door it would be difficult to get into the spirit of things, I know its the job they choose but they are only human ate the end of the day and never had a problem with Grace one of the top girls around 

Totally agree, It must be so hard trying to get into very intimate services if you find the punter repulsive or he is rude or smells.

I think the DFK is very intimate and I can see why some girls struggle not only to do it but do it how the punter might want it.

I really think if the punter swapped roles with the escort he would get a huge eye opener and I think the punter would want those prices they charged doubled.

[Looking4fun]

Just a question not a criticism john1 about your last comment does that bring her professionalism into question if she doesn't find her punter attractive
I bet half the girls we see especially the younger ones don't find a lot of us attractive but you would never know by there performance

[foreverchanges]

A rather conservative estimation I think!!

[Looking4fun]

I was being optimistic 

[greychap]

Just a question not a criticism john1 about your last comment does that bring her professionalism into question if she doesn't find her punter attractive
I bet half the girls we see especially the younger ones don't find a lot of us attractive but you would never know by there performance

I get your point. But some girls probably have a stronger stomach then others and can hide it better or some girls are more desperate for repeat customers and need the money more.  We are all human at the end of the day.

[Looking4fun]

Maybe I've been lucky that the girls I've seen are better actors because I haven't come across this problem get but for me the girl should make every effort to make you think she's enjoying it that's what your paying for, the experience

[greychap]

Maybe I've been lucky that the girls I've seen are better actors because I haven't come across this problem get but for me the girl should make every effort to make you think she's enjoying it that's what your paying for, the experience

Yes she can act and make out she is enjoying it but if a girl is uncomfortable with for example with doing DFK then then it would be hard to do it and that is why some wont offer it and stand there ground, but some girls get pushed a bit as the punter pushes for it or says he cannot get hard without etc and says to her everybody else does it, so they try to do it but it wont be as full on as the punter would want so then she gets a negative review anyway.

I have been told many times from the escorts some punters are very pushy and try to talk the girl into doing certain things she is uncomfortable with and the end result is not a very good performance with that particular service.

Its like the owo most escorts do not want to offer this but because over the years it has become normal and if most of them did not offer this they would not get much work, so in a  way I do feel a bit sorry for the fact a lot of girls want to practice safe sex with all the activities but know they wont make the money.

[Bengeo13]

Blimey, I never knew! Are you saying some girls pretend to like us but really don't fancy us? Never in a million years!

As for Grace I'm one of her fans, and one of the best times ever was with this lady - it's yet to be repeated but I keep trying again for that magic moment safe in the knowledge that she really fancies me like crazy! As if!

[sentinel]

I mentioned this forum to Grace and she does keep an eye on what is said as do many girls which is a good thing and may help them get back on track?

Grace did say that she has to have a bit of an attraction with the punter or she can't get into it properly which I can understand  if things where reversed and we where sitting in a flat or hotel room waiting for punters and someone not to our liking came to the door it would be difficult to get into the spirit of things, I know its the job they choose but they are only human ate the end of the day and never had a problem with Grace one of the top girls around 

Well she might not find some of the punters to her liking but she's quite willing to take their money.

How can an escort turn round and say that she "has to have a bit of attraction with the punter" or she can't get into it properly.

If that's the case then Diamonds should specify on their site what kind of punters she wants to see, so that the rest of us don't waste our money on her.  If a guy turns up and doesn't quite reach her standard then she should cancel the booking before he has handed over his money.

Either that or pack the job in altogether, she's unlikely to get Brad Pitt knocking on her door.

[AnthG]

and definitely one of the best GFEs around.

In the fact that she spends the entire booking moaning and complaining?

[Looking4fun]

Haha one to avoid I can get that in the house free of charge

[johnr1]

Just a question not a criticism john1 about your last comment does that bring her professionalism into question if she doesn't find her punter attractive
I bet half the girls we see especially the younger ones don't find a lot of us attractive but you would never know by there performance

I think you have answered the question in your post, you mention the word performance and I think that is the key thing some can perform better than others and can switch off and go through the motions and put on a great act some find it difficult all grace said was its not easy if you get a punter that has let themselves go for want of a better word? she does not expect a Brad Pitt every booking but these girls are only human at the end of the day and getting down to it with someone you are not keen on must be difficult if you can't act!! not something I could do if things where reversed! and for the record Grace was not the only one that had made these remarks and may be it does question her professionalism and a lot of others in that case as in my opinion its a difficult job at times

[AnthG]

grace said was its not easy if you get a punter that has let themselves go for want of a better word? she does not expect a Brad Pitt every booking but these girls are only human at the end of the day and getting down to it with someone you are not keen on must be difficult if you can't act!!

I don't accept this as the reason. In my booking with her she tried to charge £30 more for DFK, and another £30 for OWO. Complaining that Diamonds short change her on every booking so she needs to do this to make it worthwhile. As she said in London she came away with £300 per hour (if London was so good, why did she move to Newcastle and degrade herself for working at Diamonds for a take away amount of £60 per hour)

If I had of paid the extra £60 would I have suddenly got a mad sex machine. Or would she - if she was asking for the extra cash because I was hideous to her, would she then just still give a half hearted effort?

[Looking4fun]

I'm just thinking about my last 2 punts & at no point in the meeting did I feel like the lady wasn't enjoying herself but she might well be thinking about her night out or what she's having for dinner that's what I call professional, I haven't seen the lady in question but I still think it's a good review so we know what could happen

[johnr1]

I don't accept this as the reason. In my booking with her she tried to charge £30 more for DFK, and another £30 for OWO. Complaining that Diamonds short change her on every booking so she needs to do this to make it worthwhile. As she said in London she came away with £300 per hour (if London was so good, why did she move to Newcastle and degrade herself for working at Diamonds for a take away amount of £60 per hour)

If I had of paid the extra £60 would I have suddenly got a mad sex machine. Or would she - if she was asking for the extra cash because I was hideous to her, would she then just still give a half hearted effort?

Anth you make a good point and with additional funds would she turn out to be a sex machine or a better actor? and don't put yourself down she did not say anything about anybody being hideous just that it was difficult to get into it if with some people that she does not "click" with I have seen a few girls with glowing reports and got back from the punt and looking them up again to see if I had seen the same person as I have been so let down, you have to speak as you find and she has been great with me but you make a interesting point in that pounds may = performance but if she had tried that on with me I would not be going back

[johnny34]

Anth you make a good point and with additional funds would she turn out to be a sex machine or a better actor? and don't put yourself down she did not say anything about anybody being hideous just that it was difficult to get into it if with some people that she does not "click" with I have seen a few girls with glowing reports and got back from the punt and looking them up again to see if I had seen the same person as I have been so let down, you have to speak as you find and she has been great with me but you make a interesting point in that pounds may = performance but if she had tried that on with me I would not be going back

From my own experience & reading reviews of others we all have different ideas of whats attractive & what services we want. However, the thing that we all seem to agree on is there needs to be good attitude/enthusiasm to make a punt good/great. The better escorts have the ability to make you believe there enjoying it whether they are or not. The difference with grace seems to be that it shows when she does not 'click' with someone.

[johnr1]

From my own experience & reading reviews of others we all have different ideas of whats attractive & what services we want. However, the thing that we all seem to agree on is there needs to be good attitude/enthusiasm to make a punt good/great. The better escorts have the ability to make you believe there enjoying it whether they are or not. The difference with grace seems to be that it shows when she does not 'click' with someone.

Well said I think she is ether off or on with punters, only seen the on side but could imagine the off side would not be fun and don't think acting is her strong point but glad other things are 

[greychap]

I don't accept this as the reason. In my booking with her she tried to charge £30 more for DFK, and another £30 for OWO. Complaining that Diamonds short change her on every booking so she needs to do this to make it worthwhile. As she said in London she came away with £300 per hour (if London was so good, why did she move to Newcastle and degrade herself for working at Diamonds for a take away amount of £60 per hour)

If I had of paid the extra £60 would I have suddenly got a mad sex machine. Or would she - if she was asking for the extra cash because I was hideous to her, would she then just still give a half hearted effort?

Its obvious a come down for her working at Diamonds and she obviously thinks I will only do the basic sexual services because she is probably only getting £25 out of your punt once Diamonds take there cut.

Its pretty obvious by you only paying £50 in the first place she knew full well there is no way you are going to pay another £60 for DFK and owo so she knew you was not going to pay it.

She was making a point that she thinks those extras should be more money for her as what she is earning is not enough per client.

Now here is the thing I see your point that why would you pay that extra money when a lot of girls will do it in the price especially in the North East as it is one of the cheaper areas I have ever come across and there is girls out there that £50 or £60 is all in.

But I also see Graces point of view especially if she has travelled around with work in this industry then the northeast is a shock if people don't know this area and what you earn and what is expected in the 30 minute appointments and that a lot of punters expect CIM and other things for no extra charge.

The fact is if someone wants value for money then they probably know roughly what girls they need to see but taking a blind punt I don't think every girl should be expected to do everything the same as another girl, there all individual people with there own morals, views etc and its there body so there choice.

[greychap]

I think you have answered the question in your post, you mention the word performance and I think that is the key thing some can perform better than others and can switch off and go through the motions and put on a great act some find it difficult all grace said was its not easy if you get a punter that has let themselves go for want of a better word? she does not expect a Brad Pitt every booking but these girls are only human at the end of the day and getting down to it with someone you are not keen on must be difficult if you can't act!! not something I could do if things where reversed! and for the record Grace was not the only one that had made these remarks and may be it does question her professionalism and a lot of others in that case as in my opinion its a difficult job at times

I get what you are trying to say with this escort as I have had many punts where I have had many chats with the girls and I have been told similar things.

I don't think she is trying to say I will only provide a good time if there attractive and I fancy them, she is trying to say that everybody that comes through the door there not all going to be polite, clean and respectful  to her so its hard to act like a sex machine with every single guy especially if a guy is rude or quite rough and aggressive with the way he grabs her.

 Its the public you wont get on with every punter just because they pay you for a service.

One girl I saw a while ago had red marks on her and a bite type mark and I said where the hell did you get that  as it looked like it had been very recent, she said the previous punter did it. She said he was rough even though she told him twice he was rough and that she did not want finger bruises he tried to make her feel guilty for saying something as he had paid. She said he stopped when she said do it again and your out. She said one or 2 guys in every 10 are rough and rude and you struggle to give them a good service as they don't deserve one and you don't want them coming back.

That is just one example of why some girls just cannot get on with everybody wether someone pays or not.

[AnthG]

I don't think she is trying to say I will only provide a good time if there attractive and I fancy them, she is trying to say that everybody that comes through the door there not all going to be polite, clean and respectful  to her so its hard to act like a sex machine with every single guy especially if a guy is rude or quite rough and aggressive with the way he grabs her.

I don't believe that is the reason either. My very strong belief of the reason and my take of the situation from memory.

1. She had/has a way overinflated extremely high opinion of herself - she spent the entire punt saying how she is so much better than every other girl at Diamonds. And she is the only girl who gets booked out and every other girl at Diamonds is jealous of her.

2. She seen me, a quite hesitant/nervous person. I also on reflection foolishly when she asked what I did for a living I bigged myself up with the lie I used (I know now to be on the safe-side to come out with very meek job if asked).

So she likely thought 'kerching'

[greychap]

I don't believe that is the reason either. My very strong belief of the reason and my take of the situation from memory.

1. She had/has a way overinflated extremely high opinion of herself - she spent the entire punt saying how she is so much better than every other girl at Diamonds. And she is the only girl who gets booked out and every other girl at Diamonds is jealous of her.

2. She seen me, a quite hesitant/nervous person. I also on reflection foolishly when she asked what I did for a living I bigged myself up with the lie I used (I know now to be on the safe-side to come out with very meek job if asked).

So she likely thought 'kerching'

Yes not saying that is the reason why your punt was not great, just a general reason why some girls don't get on with everyone and try to charge more.

If she has worked in London and other places it probably was a shock to her system working up here.

Personally though if she does rate herself more then the other Diamond girls and the agency there is no reason why she cannot go independent and charge what she feels is best for her instead of just putting up with the agency and there prices.

[Looking4fun]

It could also be that the diamond girls only get 15 minutes between punts now I dont know this for a fact but a girl I've seen told me this, it was one of the reasons she left this could be the reason why she performs differently with punters?

[superfurryanimal]

For the sake of clarity about my meeting and my approach to any encounter;

1) I always ask what's on or off the menu before anything happens; if the lady says something is off limits that's the end of the matter as far as I'm concerned and I don't mention it again.

2) I'm always clean, polite and try to be presentable.

3) This wasn't a 30 minute booking, but 90 minutes; so although I understand that ladies may struggle to enjoy being with a client, I would expect some sort of effort from them.

So if you've had a good experience with her that's OK, but for me her level of service wasn't up to scratch, so I will not book her again.

[Toshiba]

It could also be that the diamond girls only get 15 minutes between punts now I dont know this for a fact but a girl I've seen told me this, it was one of the reasons she left this could be the reason why she performs differently with punters?

15 mins is standard practice mate, indies and most agencies including Amour have this interval time, nuts but thats greed for you.

[johnr1]

Agree the 15 minute pit stop between clients in a big put of Agency or indi its all the same with the exception of a only a few I have seen

[AnthG]

The agencies tell the girls they can have longer. And each time the girls refuse thinking only of the money. But then they say this to punters to try and garner sympathy. It worked for me for a while but now I don't accept it.

Nowhere have I seen a post anywhere of a girl say "I asked you for longer than 15mins and you refused".

You could argue the agencies should insist on 30mins between punters though. The girls only get bookings if the agency takes them.

[foreverchanges]

The agencies tell the girls they can have longer. And each time the girls refuse thinking only of the money. But then they say this to punters to try and garner sympathy. It worked for me for a while but now I don't accept it.

Nowhere have I seen a post anywhere of a girl say "I asked you for longer than 15mins and you refused".

You could argue the agencies should insist on 30mins between punters though. The girls only get bookings if the agency takes them.

Yup....there's only one Diamonds girl I have seen who insists on the 30 mins break..and its not Grace...however as we all know the agencies see the £ signs just as much as the girls.

[Dani]

She said one or 2 guys in every 10 are rough and rude and you struggle to give them a good service as they don't deserve one and you don't want them coming back.

That is just one example of why some girls just cannot get on with everybody wether someone pays or not.

Then she needs to quit the agency and go Indie as it should be 1 in every 500 or so not 2 out of ten.
This is not a reason for not giving a good service this is a reason to end the booking end of.  same if someone is rude and aggressive.  You end the booking and send them off on their way.

all of us see guys we are not attracted to.  Its why we get paid such a high rate.  If we are willing to take the money then we have to be willing to do the job properly and treat every client the same way.  If a girl has to be attracted to someone to perform then she needs to quit.  either that or when someone she knows she wont be giving her all to arrives she needs to tell him she cant take his money and send him on his way.
Taking someones money and then not giving a good service cannot be excused.  She would know as soon as she opened the door if she could give a good service or not and if not tell him so and let him keep his money.  By taking his money she is taking it whilst knowing she wont be giving him a good time.  That is not on.  No excuses.  The excuse given is bollocks as she could have just told him to save his money and go and see someone who could show him a good time as she couldn't as she has to be attracted to someone and she is not attracted to him.

[Gothic D]

Then she needs to quit the agency and go Indie as it should be 1 in every 500 or so not 2 out of ten.
This is not a reason for not giving a good service this is a reason to end the booking end of.  same if someone is rude and aggressive.  You end the booking and send them off on their way.

all of us see guys we are not attracted to.  Its why we get paid such a high rate.  If we are willing to take the money then we have to be willing to do the job properly and treat every client the same way.  If a girl has to be attracted to someone to perform then she needs to quit.  either that or when someone she knows she wont be giving her all to arrives she needs to tell him she cant take his money and send him on his way.
Taking someones money and then not giving a good service cannot be excused.  She would know as soon as she opened the door if she could give a good service or not and if not tell him so and let him keep his money.  By taking his money she is taking it whilst knowing she wont be giving him a good time.  That is not on.  No excuses.  The excuse given is bollocks as she could have just told him to save his money and go and see someone who could show him a good time as she couldn't as she has to be attracted to someone and she is not attracted to him.

This is why I have always said that there should be a list of likes on a girls profile or at the very least a mention if they are happy to see the older client.The old NG agency did it so why can't the others?

[greychap]

This is why I have always said that there should be a list of likes on a girls profile or at the very least a mention if they are happy to see the older client.The old NG agency did it so why can't the others?

The old NG didn't they get done by the police and closed down?

Its a nice idea for agencies to list services but they know there breaking the law by doing so and this will attract police trouble and gives the police a reason to close them down if they need one.

This is why Adultwork came about as its created it for listing services, its not a direct agency but more a directory and there not based in the UK. If someone is very particular about services that they require this is the place for it and most punters now use them, but still its not a 100% guarantee you would get everything.

If agencies did start listing services it could put us punters and girls more at risk for raids and neighbour trouble.

[Gothic D]

Yes they did get done and closed down but it was nothing to do with lists of services.I believe that there were more serious things that went on which brought about there demise.If I remember correctly A1 Escort agency was the spawn of NG and it still had the lists on.

[johnny34]

This is why Adultwork came about as its created it for listing services, its not a direct agency but more a directory and there not based in the UK. If someone is very particular about services that they require this is the place for it and most punters now use them, but still its not a 100% guarantee you would get everything.

I'm sure when George from Diamonds was posting last year one of the things he was talking about was to set up an AW profile for each of the girls so as to list there 'likes'. However, this has not happened & i believe george is less involved in the day to day running these days. Would/could be useful if they did this though.

[greychap]

Then she needs to quit the agency and go Indie as it should be 1 in every 500 or so not 2 out of ten.
This is not a reason for not giving a good service this is a reason to end the booking end of.  same if someone is rude and aggressive.  You end the booking and send them off on their way.

all of us see guys we are not attracted to.  Its why we get paid such a high rate.  If we are willing to take the money then we have to be willing to do the job properly and treat every client the same way.  If a girl has to be attracted to someone to perform then she needs to quit.  either that or when someone she knows she wont be giving her all to arrives she needs to tell him she cant take his money and send him on his way.
Taking someones money and then not giving a good service cannot be excused.  She would know as soon as she opened the door if she could give a good service or not and if not tell him so and let him keep his money.  By taking his money she is taking it whilst knowing she wont be giving him a good time.  That is not on.  No excuses.  The excuse given is bollocks as she could have just told him to save his money and go and see someone who could show him a good time as she couldn't as she has to be attracted to someone and she is not attracted to him.

For the record I don't agree with someone who escorts needs to be attracted to the punter to give a good time. But........


1 in 500 really....! I have seen hundreds of escorts for around 23 years and got on with most of them and had many friendly chats a lot of them have said there is at least 10 to 15% that they don't particuly get on with and find rude etc or other reasons.

Don't take this the wrong way but I think your volume of clients per day, per week or month will differ compared to a young size 8, 20 year old that would see a larger turn over of clients per day to week so would come across more people that they don't like very much then you might.

To turn around and say any girl would know as soon as they see the guy at the door they would know they can give a good service in my view is rubbish, so many girls have said to me they saw a guy he was so nice to start with and then turned nasty or went weird. You should know yourself full well that look at the amount of warnings there are with your other second home you go on called SAAFE, clients can start off nice and turn in to a fruit loop. Its the public After all not everybody is the same just like the amount of thieving and blackmailing escorts there are around.

I am sorry but as this is a punters site for punters I do get the impression you sometimes write things that you think that will earn you browny points with the punters on here. Its just the impression I get and the ethos of the site is punters first.

[greychap]

Yes they did get done and closed down but it was nothing to do with lists of services.I believe that there were more serious things that went on which brought about there demise.If I remember correctly A1 Escort agency was the spawn of NG and it still had the lists on.

Yes but there has been many reports and court cases with agencies selling sex and listing it and talking about it on the phone, that have been in the papers and up in court and lost all there homes, money and some sent to prison. This has happened up and down the country.

I know of a few. Its a risk for them, and I do think that if they know the law and still do that I think to myself if there that greedy what else would they be doing.

But I do take your point but it would only be for our benefit and could cost the agency in the end and the girls that work there.

[greychap]

I'm sure when George from Diamonds was posting last year one of the things he was talking about was to set up an AW profile for each of the girls so as to list there 'likes'. However, this has not happened & i believe george is less involved in the day to day running these days. Would/could be useful if they did this though.

If they earn enough money already they probably don't want to go down that route.

They run flats too so there already taking a risk doing more they might think its a step too far.

[Gothic D]

I'm sure when George from Diamonds was posting last year one of the things he was talking about was to set up an AW profile for each of the girls so as to list there 'likes'. However, this has not happened & i believe george is less involved in the day to day running these days. Would/could be useful if they did this though.

That would be an excellent idea but it would involve the agency putting some time and effort in and I cannot envisage them doing that.

[AnthG]

1 in 500 really....! I have seen hundreds of escorts for around 23 years and got on with most of them and had many friendly chats a lot of them have said there is at least 10 to 15% that they don't particularly get on with and find rude etc or other reasons.

What I would say is, if a girl is finding a lot of punters are seemingly showing an attitude. I would suggest she looks to herself to see why that is.

I can be fairly certain if you asked someone like Tori Taylor - a naturally upbeat, fun and pleasant person, what her percentage of aggressive and unpleasant punters are she would likely say 1 in 500 too like Dani, and not 1 in 8 like Grace.

I really think people should see Grace to see how truly unpleasant a person she is. She complains like hell about everything to do with the job. She thinks she is literally gods gift to prostitutes and the stuff she was coming out with she was acting like it too. And she talks down towards every other girl in the profession.

People have said in reviews she comes across as "posh". I would say by posh it is those sort of posh where people think they are superior to you and look down their noses at everyone else type posh.

[greychap]

Yes they did get done and closed down but it was nothing to do with lists of services.I believe that there were more serious things that went on which brought about there demise.If I remember correctly A1 Escort agency was the spawn of NG and it still had the lists on.

If the police want an excuse to look in to an agency they have the perfect excuse to get a warrant for the owner by having the website with the services listed, it makes it easy for them with out too much hard work to get the evidence.

Proceeds of crime act has made this more appealing for them to pick on an agency.

I have a family member that works in the legal defence side lets say, and have represented some unlucky people in this industry so know a bit about what the police do, harass and look for.

[greychap]

What I would say is, if a girl is finding a lot of punters are seemingly showing an attitude. I would suggest she looks to herself to see why that is.

I can be fairly certain if you asked someone like Tori Taylor - a naturally upbeat, fun and pleasant person, what her percentage of aggressive and unpleasant punters are she would likely say 1 in 500 too like Dani, and not 1 in 8 like Grace.

I really think people should see Grace to see how truly unpleasant a person she is. She complains like hell about everything to do with the job. She thinks she is literally gods gift to prostitutes and the stuff she was coming out with she was acting like it too. And she talks down towards every other girl in the profession.

People have said in reviews she comes across as "posh". I would say by posh it is those sort of posh where people think they are superior to you and look down their noses at everyone else type posh.

I have not seen Grace myself and it does seem that some people really like her and some don't.

I think the reason I get on with a lot of escorts is because I am very vanilla in fact quite boring. So I am probably an easy punter for a lot of the girls.

I do think some girls can let things go and be more laid back with punters then other girls. Just like some blokes, we are all different and our visions of what we want and get are too.

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She sounds extremely unpleasant.I wouldn't class that as posh,just very rude and arrogant.It is most likely that she would be like that no matter what profession she chose to do.
In that respect she sounds very much like Fiona of Amour who waxes lyrical about how superior she is compared to others.