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Offline johnny34


Anth you make a good point and with additional funds would she turn out to be a sex machine or a better actor? and don't put yourself down she did not say anything about anybody being hideous just that it was difficult to get into it if with some people that she does not "click" with I have seen a few girls with glowing reports and got back from the punt and looking them up again to see if I had seen the same person as I have been so let down, you have to speak as you find and she has been great with me but you make a interesting point in that pounds may = performance but if she had tried that on with me I would not be going back

From my own experience & reading reviews of others we all have different ideas of whats attractive & what services we want. However, the thing that we all seem to agree on is there needs to be good attitude/enthusiasm to make a punt good/great. The better escorts have the ability to make you believe there enjoying it whether they are or not. The difference with grace seems to be that it shows when she does not 'click' with someone.

Offline johnr1

From my own experience & reading reviews of others we all have different ideas of whats attractive & what services we want. However, the thing that we all seem to agree on is there needs to be good attitude/enthusiasm to make a punt good/great. The better escorts have the ability to make you believe there enjoying it whether they are or not. The difference with grace seems to be that it shows when she does not 'click' with someone.
Well said I think she is ether off or on with punters, only seen the on side but could imagine the off side would not be fun and don't think acting is her strong point but glad other things are  ;)
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Offline greychap

I don't accept this as the reason. In my booking with her she tried to charge £30 more for DFK, and another £30 for OWO. Complaining that Diamonds short change her on every booking so she needs to do this to make it worthwhile. As she said in London she came away with £300 per hour (if London was so good, why did she move to Newcastle and degrade herself for working at Diamonds for a take away amount of £60 per hour)

If I had of paid the extra £60 would I have suddenly got a mad sex machine. Or would she - if she was asking for the extra cash because I was hideous to her, would she then just still give a half hearted effort?

Its obvious a come down for her working at Diamonds and she obviously thinks I will only do the basic sexual services because she is probably only getting £25 out of your punt once Diamonds take there cut.

Its pretty obvious by you only paying £50 in the first place she knew full well there is no way you are going to pay another £60 for DFK and owo so she knew you was not going to pay it.

She was making a point that she thinks those extras should be more money for her as what she is earning is not enough per client.

Now here is the thing I see your point that why would you pay that extra money when a lot of girls will do it in the price especially in the North East as it is one of the cheaper areas I have ever come across and there is girls out there that £50 or £60 is all in.

But I also see Graces point of view especially if she has travelled around with work in this industry then the northeast is a shock if people don't know this area and what you earn and what is expected in the 30 minute appointments and that a lot of punters expect CIM and other things for no extra charge.

The fact is if someone wants value for money then they probably know roughly what girls they need to see but taking a blind punt I don't think every girl should be expected to do everything the same as another girl, there all individual people with there own morals, views etc and its there body so there choice.
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Offline greychap

I think you have answered the question in your post, you mention the word performance and I think that is the key thing some can perform better than others and can switch off and go through the motions and put on a great act some find it difficult all grace said was its not easy if you get a punter that has let themselves go for want of a better word? she does not expect a Brad Pitt every booking but these girls are only human at the end of the day and getting down to it with someone you are not keen on must be difficult if you can't act!! not something I could do if things where reversed! and for the record Grace was not the only one that had made these remarks and may be it does question her professionalism and a lot of others in that case as in my opinion its a difficult job at times

I get what you are trying to say with this escort as I have had many punts where I have had many chats with the girls and I have been told similar things.

I don't think she is trying to say I will only provide a good time if there attractive and I fancy them, she is trying to say that everybody that comes through the door there not all going to be polite, clean and respectful  to her so its hard to act like a sex machine with every single guy especially if a guy is rude or quite rough and aggressive with the way he grabs her.

 Its the public you wont get on with every punter just because they pay you for a service.

One girl I saw a while ago had red marks on her and a bite type mark and I said where the hell did you get that  as it looked like it had been very recent, she said the previous punter did it. She said he was rough even though she told him twice he was rough and that she did not want finger bruises he tried to make her feel guilty for saying something as he had paid. She said he stopped when she said do it again and your out. She said one or 2 guys in every 10 are rough and rude and you struggle to give them a good service as they don't deserve one and you don't want them coming back.

That is just one example of why some girls just cannot get on with everybody wether someone pays or not. :thumbsdown:

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Offline AnthG

I don't think she is trying to say I will only provide a good time if there attractive and I fancy them, she is trying to say that everybody that comes through the door there not all going to be polite, clean and respectful  to her so its hard to act like a sex machine with every single guy especially if a guy is rude or quite rough and aggressive with the way he grabs her.

I don't believe that is the reason either. My very strong belief of the reason and my take of the situation from memory.

1. She had/has a way overinflated extremely high opinion of herself - she spent the entire punt saying how she is so much better than every other girl at Diamonds. And she is the only girl who gets booked out and every other girl at Diamonds is jealous of her.

2. She seen me, a quite hesitant/nervous person. I also on reflection foolishly when she asked what I did for a living I bigged myself up with the lie I used (I know now to be on the safe-side to come out with very meek job if asked).

So she likely thought 'kerching'

Offline greychap

I don't believe that is the reason either. My very strong belief of the reason and my take of the situation from memory.

1. She had/has a way overinflated extremely high opinion of herself - she spent the entire punt saying how she is so much better than every other girl at Diamonds. And she is the only girl who gets booked out and every other girl at Diamonds is jealous of her.

2. She seen me, a quite hesitant/nervous person. I also on reflection foolishly when she asked what I did for a living I bigged myself up with the lie I used (I know now to be on the safe-side to come out with very meek job if asked).

So she likely thought 'kerching'

Yes not saying that is the reason why your punt was not great, just a general reason why some girls don't get on with everyone and try to charge more.

If she has worked in London and other places it probably was a shock to her system working up here.

Personally though if she does rate herself more then the other Diamond girls and the agency there is no reason why she cannot go independent and charge what she feels is best for her instead of just putting up with the agency and there prices.
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Offline Looking4fun

It could also be that the diamond girls only get 15 minutes between punts now I dont know this for a fact but a girl I've seen told me this, it was one of the reasons she left this could be the reason why she performs differently with punters?

For the sake of clarity about my meeting and my approach to any encounter;

1) I always ask what's on or off the menu before anything happens; if the lady says something is off limits that's the end of the matter as far as I'm concerned and I don't mention it again.

2) I'm always clean, polite and try to be presentable.

3) This wasn't a 30 minute booking, but 90 minutes; so although I understand that ladies may struggle to enjoy being with a client, I would expect some sort of effort from them.

So if you've had a good experience with her that's OK, but for me her level of service wasn't up to scratch, so I will not book her again.

Offline Toshiba

It could also be that the diamond girls only get 15 minutes between punts now I dont know this for a fact but a girl I've seen told me this, it was one of the reasons she left this could be the reason why she performs differently with punters?

15 mins is standard practice mate, indies and most agencies including Amour have this interval time, nuts but thats greed for you.

Offline johnr1

Agree the 15 minute pit stop between clients in a big put of :thumbsdown: Agency or indi its all the same with the exception of a only a few I have seen
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Offline AnthG

The agencies tell the girls they can have longer. And each time the girls refuse thinking only of the money. But then they say this to punters to try and garner sympathy. It worked for me for a while but now I don't accept it.

Nowhere have I seen a post anywhere of a girl say "I asked you for longer than 15mins and you refused".

You could argue the agencies should insist on 30mins between punters though. The girls only get bookings if the agency takes them.

The agencies tell the girls they can have longer. And each time the girls refuse thinking only of the money. But then they say this to punters to try and garner sympathy. It worked for me for a while but now I don't accept it.

Nowhere have I seen a post anywhere of a girl say "I asked you for longer than 15mins and you refused".

You could argue the agencies should insist on 30mins between punters though. The girls only get bookings if the agency takes them.

Yup....there's only one Diamonds girl I have seen who insists on the 30 mins break..and its not Grace...however as we all know the agencies see the £ signs just as much as the girls.

Offline Dani

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She said one or 2 guys in every 10 are rough and rude and you struggle to give them a good service as they don't deserve one and you don't want them coming back.

That is just one example of why some girls just cannot get on with everybody wether someone pays or not. :thumbsdown:

Then she needs to quit the agency and go Indie as it should be 1 in every 500 or so not 2 out of ten.
This is not a reason for not giving a good service this is a reason to end the booking end of.  same if someone is rude and aggressive.  You end the booking and send them off on their way.

all of us see guys we are not attracted to.  Its why we get paid such a high rate.  If we are willing to take the money then we have to be willing to do the job properly and treat every client the same way.  If a girl has to be attracted to someone to perform then she needs to quit.  either that or when someone she knows she wont be giving her all to arrives she needs to tell him she cant take his money and send him on his way.
Taking someones money and then not giving a good service cannot be excused.  She would know as soon as she opened the door if she could give a good service or not and if not tell him so and let him keep his money.  By taking his money she is taking it whilst knowing she wont be giving him a good time.  That is not on.  No excuses.  The excuse given is bollocks as she could have just told him to save his money and go and see someone who could show him a good time as she couldn't as she has to be attracted to someone and she is not attracted to him.

Offline Gothic D

Then she needs to quit the agency and go Indie as it should be 1 in every 500 or so not 2 out of ten.
This is not a reason for not giving a good service this is a reason to end the booking end of.  same if someone is rude and aggressive.  You end the booking and send them off on their way.

all of us see guys we are not attracted to.  Its why we get paid such a high rate.  If we are willing to take the money then we have to be willing to do the job properly and treat every client the same way.  If a girl has to be attracted to someone to perform then she needs to quit.  either that or when someone she knows she wont be giving her all to arrives she needs to tell him she cant take his money and send him on his way.
Taking someones money and then not giving a good service cannot be excused.  She would know as soon as she opened the door if she could give a good service or not and if not tell him so and let him keep his money.  By taking his money she is taking it whilst knowing she wont be giving him a good time.  That is not on.  No excuses.  The excuse given is bollocks as she could have just told him to save his money and go and see someone who could show him a good time as she couldn't as she has to be attracted to someone and she is not attracted to him.
This is why I have always said that there should be a list of likes on a girls profile or at the very least a mention if they are happy to see the older client.The old NG agency did it so why can't the others?

Offline greychap

This is why I have always said that there should be a list of likes on a girls profile or at the very least a mention if they are happy to see the older client.The old NG agency did it so why can't the others?

The old NG didn't they get done by the police and closed down?

Its a nice idea for agencies to list services but they know there breaking the law by doing so and this will attract police trouble and gives the police a reason to close them down if they need one.

This is why Adultwork came about as its created it for listing services, its not a direct agency but more a directory and there not based in the UK. If someone is very particular about services that they require this is the place for it and most punters now use them, but still its not a 100% guarantee you would get everything.

If agencies did start listing services it could put us punters and girls more at risk for raids and neighbour trouble.
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Offline Gothic D

Yes they did get done and closed down but it was nothing to do with lists of services.I believe that there were more serious things that went on which brought about there demise.If I remember correctly A1 Escort agency was the spawn of NG and it still had the lists on.

Offline johnny34

This is why Adultwork came about as its created it for listing services, its not a direct agency but more a directory and there not based in the UK. If someone is very particular about services that they require this is the place for it and most punters now use them, but still its not a 100% guarantee you would get everything.

I'm sure when George from Diamonds was posting last year one of the things he was talking about was to set up an AW profile for each of the girls so as to list there 'likes'. However, this has not happened & i believe george is less involved in the day to day running these days. Would/could be useful if they did this though.

Offline greychap

Then she needs to quit the agency and go Indie as it should be 1 in every 500 or so not 2 out of ten.
This is not a reason for not giving a good service this is a reason to end the booking end of.  same if someone is rude and aggressive.  You end the booking and send them off on their way.

all of us see guys we are not attracted to.  Its why we get paid such a high rate.  If we are willing to take the money then we have to be willing to do the job properly and treat every client the same way.  If a girl has to be attracted to someone to perform then she needs to quit.  either that or when someone she knows she wont be giving her all to arrives she needs to tell him she cant take his money and send him on his way.
Taking someones money and then not giving a good service cannot be excused.  She would know as soon as she opened the door if she could give a good service or not and if not tell him so and let him keep his money.  By taking his money she is taking it whilst knowing she wont be giving him a good time.  That is not on.  No excuses.  The excuse given is bollocks as she could have just told him to save his money and go and see someone who could show him a good time as she couldn't as she has to be attracted to someone and she is not attracted to him.

For the record I don't agree with someone who escorts needs to be attracted to the punter to give a good time. But........


1 in 500 really....! I have seen hundreds of escorts for around 23 years and got on with most of them and had many friendly chats a lot of them have said there is at least 10 to 15% that they don't particuly get on with and find rude etc or other reasons.

Don't take this the wrong way but I think your volume of clients per day, per week or month will differ compared to a young size 8, 20 year old that would see a larger turn over of clients per day to week so would come across more people that they don't like very much then you might.

To turn around and say any girl would know as soon as they see the guy at the door they would know they can give a good service in my view is rubbish, so many girls have said to me they saw a guy he was so nice to start with and then turned nasty or went weird. You should know yourself full well that look at the amount of warnings there are with your other second home you go on called SAAFE, clients can start off nice and turn in to a fruit loop. Its the public After all not everybody is the same just like the amount of thieving and blackmailing escorts there are around.

I am sorry but as this is a punters site for punters I do get the impression you sometimes write things that you think that will earn you browny points with the punters on here. Its just the impression I get and the ethos of the site is punters first.
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Offline greychap

Yes they did get done and closed down but it was nothing to do with lists of services.I believe that there were more serious things that went on which brought about there demise.If I remember correctly A1 Escort agency was the spawn of NG and it still had the lists on.

Yes but there has been many reports and court cases with agencies selling sex and listing it and talking about it on the phone, that have been in the papers and up in court and lost all there homes, money and some sent to prison. This has happened up and down the country.

I know of a few. Its a risk for them, and I do think that if they know the law and still do that I think to myself if there that greedy what else would they be doing.

But I do take your point but it would only be for our benefit and could cost the agency in the end and the girls that work there.
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Offline greychap

I'm sure when George from Diamonds was posting last year one of the things he was talking about was to set up an AW profile for each of the girls so as to list there 'likes'. However, this has not happened & i believe george is less involved in the day to day running these days. Would/could be useful if they did this though.

If they earn enough money already they probably don't want to go down that route.

They run flats too so there already taking a risk doing more they might think its a step too far.
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Offline Gothic D

I'm sure when George from Diamonds was posting last year one of the things he was talking about was to set up an AW profile for each of the girls so as to list there 'likes'. However, this has not happened & i believe george is less involved in the day to day running these days. Would/could be useful if they did this though.

That would be an excellent idea but it would involve the agency putting some time and effort in and I cannot envisage them doing that.

Offline AnthG

1 in 500 really....! I have seen hundreds of escorts for around 23 years and got on with most of them and had many friendly chats a lot of them have said there is at least 10 to 15% that they don't particularly get on with and find rude etc or other reasons.

What I would say is, if a girl is finding a lot of punters are seemingly showing an attitude. I would suggest she looks to herself to see why that is.

I can be fairly certain if you asked someone like Tori Taylor - a naturally upbeat, fun and pleasant person, what her percentage of aggressive and unpleasant punters are she would likely say 1 in 500 too like Dani, and not 1 in 8 like Grace.

I really think people should see Grace to see how truly unpleasant a person she is. She complains like hell about everything to do with the job. She thinks she is literally gods gift to prostitutes and the stuff she was coming out with she was acting like it too. And she talks down towards every other girl in the profession.

People have said in reviews she comes across as "posh". I would say by posh it is those sort of posh where people think they are superior to you and look down their noses at everyone else type posh.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2015, 07:23:47 PM by AnthG »

Offline greychap

Yes they did get done and closed down but it was nothing to do with lists of services.I believe that there were more serious things that went on which brought about there demise.If I remember correctly A1 Escort agency was the spawn of NG and it still had the lists on.

If the police want an excuse to look in to an agency they have the perfect excuse to get a warrant for the owner by having the website with the services listed, it makes it easy for them with out too much hard work to get the evidence.

Proceeds of crime act has made this more appealing for them to pick on an agency.

I have a family member that works in the legal defence side lets say, and have represented some unlucky people in this industry so know a bit about what the police do, harass and look for.

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Offline greychap

What I would say is, if a girl is finding a lot of punters are seemingly showing an attitude. I would suggest she looks to herself to see why that is.

I can be fairly certain if you asked someone like Tori Taylor - a naturally upbeat, fun and pleasant person, what her percentage of aggressive and unpleasant punters are she would likely say 1 in 500 too like Dani, and not 1 in 8 like Grace.

I really think people should see Grace to see how truly unpleasant a person she is. She complains like hell about everything to do with the job. She thinks she is literally gods gift to prostitutes and the stuff she was coming out with she was acting like it too. And she talks down towards every other girl in the profession.

People have said in reviews she comes across as "posh". I would say by posh it is those sort of posh where people think they are superior to you and look down their noses at everyone else type posh.

I have not seen Grace myself and it does seem that some people really like her and some don't.

I think the reason I get on with a lot of escorts is because I am very vanilla in fact quite boring. So I am probably an easy punter for a lot of the girls.

I do think some girls can let things go and be more laid back with punters then other girls. Just like some blokes, we are all different and our visions of what we want and get are too.
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Offline Gothic D

She sounds extremely unpleasant.I wouldn't class that as posh,just very rude and arrogant.It is most likely that she would be like that no matter what profession she chose to do.
In that respect she sounds very much like Fiona of Amour who waxes lyrical about how superior she is compared to others.




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