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Offline Sunny

Hi lads just wondering does anyone here take safety measures ie voice recordings, video recording, written contracts so that money you pay doesn't get stolen, you don't get blackmailed by WGs and falsely accused of things or is that too extreme? What insurance policy do you use?

Offline ShyWolf

That seems a bit overkill just use a burner phone so can't trace you so after you leave its like you never existed would be rare a WG would ecuse you of doing something you didn't do unless your fishing at the bottom of the barrel

and money only hand it over if your happy that she is the girl in the profile or looks good enough and you discussed the services you want

Dave2014

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Hi lads just wondering does anyone here take safety measures ie voice recordings, video recording, written contracts so that money you pay doesn't get stolen, you don't get blackmailed by WGs and falsely accused of things or is that too extreme? What insurance policy do you use?

Yeah - I take my own lawyer along  :lol:

Ben4454

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I thought about stuff like this but in reality it just isn't going to happen.

My insurance is ensuring she is well reviewed on UKP and keeping my wits about me during the punt.

For secret cameras for blackmailing you may wish to investigate the basic cameras around and you will spot them if a prossie is using them in her bedroom. I once spotted a prossie using a camera clock which was recording the entire thing. I walked soon as I saw it.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2015, 02:49:44 am by Ben4454 »

ram2184

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For secret cameras for blackmailing you may wish to investigate the basic cameras around and you will spot them if a prossie is using them in her bedroom. I once spotted a prossie using a camera clock which was recording the entire thing. I walked soon as I saw it.

that is really disturbing. I have been to a wg apartment with loads of stuff lying around would be hard to detect a camera

Offline Herges Adventures

But even a HD film of your session would mean nothing with a false name, a punting phone and no ID on you to start with...  :hi:

James999

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Hi lads just wondering does anyone here take safety measures ie voice recordings, video recording, written contracts so that money you pay doesn't get stolen, you don't get blackmailed by WGs and falsely accused of things or is that too extreme? What insurance policy do you use?

Yeah it's a really good idea, and pro$$ies will sign anything (often with an "x") as many can't read and write, it's also good to ask to meet the pimp and get him to sign as well.

yorkshire123

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Hi lads just wondering does anyone here take safety measures ie voice recordings, video recording, written contracts so that money you pay doesn't get stolen, you don't get blackmailed by WGs and falsely accused of things or is that too extreme? What insurance policy do you use?

Ha never thought of that, I will add it to my....

- punting phone
- punting clothes
- punting car (but I'm thinking of changing it to a white van as they seem less conspicuous)
- punting facial disguise
- punting dog
- punting hat
- punting id (fake)
- punting wallet (pockets)
- punting money (used notes so I can't be traced)
- punting personality (Happy one as I'm a miserable cunt in real life)
- punting body fat % (just in case I come face to face with a pimp)
- punting persona (self made millionaire is my latest creation)
- punting driver (must be hard & foreign looking)

A punting contract would certainly add to my already extensive punting arsenal, thanks for that, you can't be too careful out there   :thumbsup:

Come to think about it maybe I would be better off paying some fucker else to punt for me  :unknown:

Dave2014

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Ha never thought of that, I will add it to my....

- punting phone
- punting clothes
- punting car (but I'm thinking of changing it to a white van as they seem less conspicuous)
- punting facial disguise
- punting dog
- punting hat
- punting id (fake)
- punting wallet (pockets)
- punting money (used notes so I can't be traced)
- punting personality (Happy one as I'm a miserable cunt in real life)
- punting body fat % (just in case I come face to face with a pimp)
- punting persona (self made millionaire is my latest creation)
- punting driver (must be hard & foreign looking)

A punting contract would certainly add to my already extensive punting arsenal, thanks for that, you can't be too careful out there   :thumbsup:

Come to think about it maybe I would be better off paying some fucker else to punt for me  :unknown:

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

SirFrank

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Ha never thought of that, I will add it to my....

- punting phone
- punting clothes
- punting car (but I'm thinking of changing it to a white van as they seem less conspicuous)
- punting facial disguise
- punting dog
- punting hat
- punting id (fake)
- punting wallet (pockets)
- punting money (used notes so I can't be traced)
- punting personality (Happy one as I'm a miserable cunt in real life)
- punting body fat % (just in case I come face to face with a pimp)
- punting persona (self made millionaire is my latest creation)
- punting driver (must be hard & foreign looking)

A punting contract would certainly add to my already extensive punting arsenal, thanks for that, you can't be too careful out there   :thumbsup:

Come to think about it maybe I would be better off paying some fucker else to punt for me  :unknown:

Indeed. I also get driven to punts but I don't have the same resources as some other punters. Consequently, I'm driven around by an Asian lad in a rickshaw, for which I feed him in fish heads. However, anyone tries anyfing narsty and they get a 6 pack of martial arts whupp ass from my driver/head of security.

Also be sure to wear a hat, false moustache and surgical gloves. Also either make sure she swallows your plum sauce or you take your rubber complete with baby batter with you. That way your DNA can't be used for nefarious purposes

yorkshire123

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Indeed. I also get driven to punts but I don't have the same resources as some other punters. Consequently, I'm driven around by an Asian lad in a rickshaw, for which I feed him in fish heads. However, anyone tries anyfing narsty and they get a 6 pack of martial arts whupp ass from my driver/head of security.

Also be sure to wear a hat, false moustache and surgical gloves. Also either make sure she swallows your plum sauce or you take your rubber complete with baby batter with you. That way your DNA can't be used for nefarious purposes

Gloves, how the fuck have I got along so far without gloves  :dash:
I've got the spunk part covered though, I fake all of my orgasms where prossie's are concerned   ;)

Offline 385North

I simply take off and nuke the site from orbit aftwards. It's the only way to be sure.

Sorry, watched Aliens last night and still have all the best lines in my head.

Offline shrewsmale

Hi lads just wondering does anyone here take safety measures ie voice recordings, video recording, written contracts so that money you pay doesn't get stolen, you don't get blackmailed by WGs and falsely accused of things or is that too extreme? What insurance policy do you use?

A contract wouldn't be enforceable since the agreement would be tainted by illegality.Not sure anyone would want to try and sue on it anyway since all a matter of public record!

Best thing you can do is just undertake your own due diligence. As per what people have said on forum use a punting phone etc.

Personally I dont think you should ever punt anymore money than you are willing to lose as lets face it with some meets where the girl is a nightmare or bait and switch you might as well throw it down the drain!

I do feel sorry for these guys you see getting screwed on overnighters

StPunt

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ive got all my bases covered regards insurance when punting too fella, its called not giving a fuck.

And any wg secretly taping my session ill be demanding a copy.

yorkshire123

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Well to say I'm disappointed would be an understatement to say the least.

I've just spent 30 mins of my life filling out a questionnaire on an insurance price comparison site & all but one rejected me.
Apparently I failed the fluffy punter questions & there is too much of a risk that I would make a future claim.

Sheilas Wheelers did offer to insure me against a bad punt but with a few conditions, (1) I would walk away from UKP & join prossienet today (2) I would have a £200 excess levied against any claim (3) Irrespective of the quality of the punt I must sign off every review with "treat her well" (4) If I made a claim I would accept that my details would be logged into a dangerous/timewaster database on some soppy tarts forum.

After careful consideration I've decided to carry on punting uninsured  :(

Offline ForrestGump

Very entertaining replies!  :lol:

Seriously, though, sunny. Are you sure punting's the right thing for you? Perhaps a pastime with lower risk would suit you better. Just sayin'  :unknown:

Offline Sunny

Some really poor banter lads my curiosity arose when I read some scams on here with WGs and girls stealing/blackmailing clients. I've even seen on twitter WGs openly talk about how they'd get money from clients by threatening to tell their wives.

"A contract wouldn't be enforceable since the agreement would be tainted by illegality"

Not if you change the terms, write the contract as a loan or as a non-disclosure.

 

Dave2014

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"A contract wouldn't be enforceable since the agreement would be tainted by illegality"

Not if you change the terms, write the contract as a loan or as a non-disclosure.

I don't want to be impolite here, so I will do this very gently: you are talking complete and utter cunting bollocks. I've heard more coherent analyses from fanny farts. Further, if you already 'know-it-all' why bother to even raise the question?

Don't post a fucking stupid question then get all sensitive and 'enlightened' when forum members treat it and you with the piss taking you both deserve.

James999

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Some really poor banter lads my curiosity arose when I read some scams on here with WGs and girls stealing/blackmailing clients. I've even seen on twitter WGs openly talk about how they'd get money from clients by threatening to tell their wives.

"A contract wouldn't be enforceable since the agreement would be tainted by illegality"

Not if you change the terms, write the contract as a loan or as a non-disclosure.

You are talking shit, even if that was correct many pro$$ies are not of "sound mind" and as such unable to enter into such a contract   :wacko:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Some really poor banter lads my curiosity arose when I read some scams on here with WGs and girls stealing/blackmailing clients.

Hundreds of thousands of punts take place every year in this country, yes there is a risk of getting robbed but it is highly unlikely, in my 30+ years of punting I have had some terrible punts but I have never had money actually stolen.
If you are that concerned maybe this hobby is not for you, ever thought of taking up trainspotting.     :unknown:

yorkshire123

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Some really poor banter lads my curiosity arose when I read some scams on here with WGs and girls stealing/blackmailing clients. I've even seen on twitter WGs openly talk about how they'd get money from clients by threatening to tell their wives.

"A contract wouldn't be enforceable since the agreement would be tainted by illegality"

Not if you change the terms, write the contract as a loan or as a non-disclosure.

Come on then lets have some evidence & out the nasty cunts.
(sorry the banter wasn't to your taste, a stupid thread deserves & attracts stupid answers in my humble opinion)

Offline Herges Adventures

WGs openly talk about how they'd get money from clients by threatening to tell their wives.

But how are they going to get in touch unless you a) tell them or b) leave an obvious trail for them to follow?

You sound a bit too paranoid for this hobby.

PompeyChap

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-Pay as you go shitty phone with no personal details on it, only use it for calling escorts.
-Only take out enough cash for the punt, leave your cards and wallet in the car/home
-Use a different name
-Don't give them any personal information, lie about everything

If you're not an idiot and are careful it doesn't matter what happens. I've had an escort take the cash and slam the door in my face then call the police on me when I wouldn't leave. She then proceeded to text me threats and call me every 5 minutes, so I chucked the sim card in the bin and nothing's happened since.

If you're very paranoid then maybe punting isn't for you.

Offline Dani

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. I've even seen on twitter WGs openly talk about how they'd get money from clients by threatening to tell their wives.


Please give us links to these twitter feeds as that would be very stupid of them as clients would see it post it up here and avoid them like the plague.
I Am sure the guys here would appreciate knowing who they are and who to avoid and they could then be put on the dangerous prossie list.
Or are you fibbing a bit to make yourself look better as your post was so obviously stupid.  I guess today being last day of school holidays it was to be expected but still this one was daft to say the least.

PompeyChap

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Please give us links to these twitter feeds as that would be very stupid of them as clients would see it post it up here and avoid them like the plague.
I Am sure the guys here would appreciate knowing who they are and who to avoid and they could then be put on the dangerous prossie list.
Or are you fibbing a bit to make yourself look better as your post was so obviously stupid.  I guess today being last day of school holidays it was to be expected but still this one was daft to say the least.

ParisB did it last year. Just read through the forums here and you will find numerous pro$$ies who do it.

Just because a pro$$ie has been rated negatively here or scammed/cheated someone here doesn't mean that people will stop seeing her. Wife4rent has stolen from people, outed them, scammed them and generally been a waste of space. She still gets punters and such because not everyone knows UKP exists and because the punting world is full of fluffies.

Offline Sunny

People have got the wrong end of the stick I'm not paranoid/scared of WGs just curious if anyone has ever tried taking these measures before thats all

Maybe the easiest thing to do would be to record telephone convos with the WGs and go through "terms" and record them agreeing to those terms.

When I referred to contracts I meant one page with a few bullet points and 2 signatures nothing too complicated for christ sakes.

The lady in question isn't well known on here or on other sites  (She doesn't have many twitter followers) + I'm not sure if she was joking or not you can't tell with mistresses but she interacts with punters so I'm not sure if I should oust her. She's a black mature lady from the Gloucester area that's all I say

Offline Sunny

The lady in question tweeted "So pissed off tempted to mail someone's wife idiot sissy to pay up"

Haven't seen any reviews on her on this site or other forums just on AW where she seems to have good ratings.


Offline RedKettle

Just thinking of the EE girl whose English was so poor I struggled to get her to understand "suck my cock NOW" - explaining that I wanted a legal agreement signed that made the money I was paying her a loan would be interesting.  Especially as of questionable value if she has not read all the small print and understood it.  Then you should offer her the opportunity to take independent legal advice.

Actually it would work - after all that you either not want a fuck anymore or would have used up all the time.  They would be complaining on Saafe of our new time wasting tactic!

James999

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The lady in question tweeted "So pissed off tempted to mail someone's wife idiot sissy to pay up"

Haven't seen any reviews on her on this site or other forums just on AW where she seems to have good ratings.

Link to her & tweet

Or have you not made that up yet  :sarcastic:

Offline Sunny

How do I post twitter screenshots onto here from an iphone?

Offline Herges Adventures

Maybe the easiest thing to do would be to record telephone convos with the WGs and go through "terms" and record them agreeing to those terms.

Sounds eminently sensible  :rolleyes:

Offline Swsnapper

How do I post twitter screenshots onto here from an iphone?

Just take a screen shot (top right hand button and menu button at same time... And then upload.

Offline Sunny

I know how to take screenshots on the iphone I don't know how to post them on UKP

Offline shrewsmale

'Not if you change the terms, write the contract as a loan or as a non-disclosure.'

Afraid, as per the other responses, complete rubbish.


'When I referred to contracts I meant one page with a few bullet points and 2 signatures nothing too complicated for christ sakes.'

Likewise complete rubbish. Trying to be polite, you don't seem to get what I'm saying. Regardless of the content, the Courts will not enforce a contract for sexual services. Call it what you want, a loan (not sure why you would as you suggest) or whatever, certain things in this country you cannot enforce regardless of whether the contract is between two consenting adults or not.

Offline shrewsmale

I know how to take screenshots on the iphone I don't know how to post them on UKP

Mods/admin please correct me if Im wrong but most forums require you to post the image BB code. Do you allow posting of images here? If so then OP you just need to upload the image to a image provider and use the BB code. I will not post sites until Admin confirmed ok.

Thanks

Dave2014

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How do I post twitter screenshots onto here from an iphone?

Either post a link or identify this prostitute in your next response on this thread or stop fucking us about with your bullshit Jackanory and get back to school.

You are testing our patience. You have come on here, posed a preposterous question and then proclaimed to be an expert in answering your own question because you didn't like UKP members quite rightly calling both you and the question ridiculous.

Here is a tip: don't walk into someone's house and shit in the middle of their living room. It is not a good way to make friends.

StPunt

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unless they are into hardsports

carefree

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Well fuck me, some people dunnarf take this punting game seriously :dash:

Insurance policy?  WTF FOR??

Get in there, gets balls deep and fuck off.

Insurance policy my arse :angry:

Offline Sunny

Her profile External Link/Members Only scroll down to 10th Feb

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Regardless of the content, the Courts will not enforce a contract for sexual services. Call it what you want, a loan (not sure why you would as you suggest) or whatever, certain things in this country you cannot enforce regardless of whether the contract is between two consenting adults or not.

Of course they won't enforce contracts for sexual services, I know 1 sheet of paper with 2 signatures doesn't necessarily make a contract valid in this country. Obviously you'll have to do research and seek legal advice but in layman terms say if you change the content/terms of the contract to something other than "sexual services" and you have photographic/video proof wouldn't that be sufficient?

Carefree some punters get blackmailed by WGs

Offline Sunny

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You are testing our patience. You have come on here, posed a preposterous question and then proclaimed to be an expert in answering your own question because you didn't like UKP members quite rightly calling both you and the question ridiculous.

Puntico you really are a spastic, I posed a question then replied to one of the punters and challenged his point thats all. I didn't expertly answer my own question you twat.


Dave2014

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. . . if you change the content/terms of the contract to something other than "sexual services" and you have photographic/video proof wouldn't that be sufficient?

Sufficient for what? This is just incoherent babble.

JV547845

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Her profile External Link/Members Only scroll down to 10th Feb

Thanks for that.  In answer to your original question I'm guessing most members don't need insurance because we'd never give our custom to a WG as awful as that in a million years.

Offline shrewsmale

Her profile External Link/Members Only scroll down to 10th Feb

Of course they won't enforce contracts for sexual services, I know 1 sheet of paper with 2 signatures doesn't necessarily make a contract valid in this country. Obviously you'll have to do research and seek legal advice but in layman terms say if you change the content/terms of the contract to something other than "sexual services" and you have photographic/video proof wouldn't that be sufficient?

Carefree some punters get blackmailed by WGs

Trying to be polite, can I suggest you stop with your attempts to form some sort of legally binding agreement as it just isn't going to work. Puntico knows what he is talking about, as do I, and I assure you it just will not work.

Dave2014

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Trying to be polite, can I suggest you stop with your attempts to form some sort of legally binding agreement as it just isn't going to work. Puntico knows what he is talking about, as do I, and I assure you it just will not work.

That should be the end of the thread.  :drinks:

Offline maxxblue

Puntico you really are a spastic, I posed a question then replied to one of the punters and challenged his point thats all. I didn't expertly answer my own question you twat.

I fucking despise people who make disparaging remarks about disabled people. I refrained from responding to your fucking tosspot post, but whatever tolerance I had towards you has gone. You are a fucking inadequate cunt.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2015, 11:03:56 pm by maxxblue »

Offline Dani

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Hate to tell you this but this is part of having a sissy pay pig.  She is basically paid to threaten to out him, the more she plays his game the more he pays her.  This is not a prossie saying she will out her client to his wife if he doesn't give her money.  Its a sissy pay pig scenario that some Mistresses do with their clients

jcdmj12

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Some really poor banter lads my curiosity arose when I read some scams on here with WGs and girls stealing/blackmailing clients. I've even seen on twitter WGs openly talk about how they'd get money from clients by threatening to tell their wives.
That is blackmail, and covered perfectly well by the criminal law. The police usually pursue it enthusiastically as well.

Not if you change the terms, write the contract as a loan or as a non-disclosure.

Getting a prossie to sign an NDA?    :lol:  And what are you going to do if she breaches it? Sue her for damages?  Get an injunction?  I suppose you could hire Carter Ruck for a few hundred K and get a super injunction, if you were a man of West8's means.

The best precaution is a good set of multi-layered security procedures which you adhere to strictly.  Fake name, false background story,  burner phone, never park within sight of her place, never, ever leave anything with ID lying around.    That (plus several others which I won't talk about on open forum) is enough for me. A prossie would have more luck trying to blackmail Keyser fucking Söze.

The problem comes generally when you're a fluffy cunt who starts thinking the WG is your mate and telling her your life story.  Unfortunately the ones who tend to be the most charming, beguiling and sympathetic are also the ones who are utter fucking bunny boilers.

jcdmj12

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Hate to tell you this but this is part of having a sissy pay pig.  She is basically paid to threaten to out him, the more she plays his game the more he pays her.  This is not a prossie saying she will out her client to his wife if he doesn't give her money.  Its a sissy pay pig scenario that some Mistresses do with their clients

From a website in her twitter feed:

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I'm sure this bloke was giving evidence at the HSBC enquiry recently.