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Offline Daffodil

Why couldn't you? Of course you could.

if you are in a relationship with someone it means you want to be with them. You wouldn't care what they had done.

I take it what you were saying you liked her, but not so much to want a relationship with her - which is nothing to be ashamed of.

Blinkers on again Anth. You might be able to but a lot of guys wouldn't.

I wouldn't walk down the street with a girl that used to/is a pro$$ie knowing half the guys we pass have probably had a ride.

This is probably a contentious view (and one maybe best saved for a punters only board  ;) ;) ) but I would struggle to respect a girl who had been selling herself.

Offline AnthG

This is probably a contentious view (and one maybe best saved for a punters only board  ;) ;) ) but I would struggle to respect a girl who had been selling herself.
I am actually genuinely curious which one of us forms the minority opinion here.

I would say finding out your girlfriend was once an Escort would be similar to finding out your girlfriend has had numerous infidelities.

You would be upset and angry, but depending on how you felt about the girl, you could get over it.

Offline Daffodil

I am actually genuinely curious which one of us forms the minority opinion here.

I would say finding out your girlfriend was once an Escort would be similar to finding out your girlfriend has had numerous infidelities.

You would be upset and angry, but depending on how you felt about the girl, you could get over it.

8 out of 10 cats the other week. Number one lie people tell about themselves: Number of sexual partners. There's a reason for that.

Offline Daffodil

Also, and I know I'm not exactly referencing reputable sources, American Pie's rule of three. Guys will multiply their number of sexual conquests by three, girls will divide theirs.

If a girl who has slept with a shed load of guys doesn't respect herself, why should I?

Offline AnthG

If a girl who has slept with a shed load of guys doesn't respect herself, why should I?

I am not saying Escorts in general should be respected for their choice of job role (which so there is no confusion I personally am in the yes they should camp on that one too).

What I am saying is if you are attracted to someone, you don't care.

I remember a year or so ago a newspaper article saying Maxine Carr is in a committed relationship now. The guy was asked how he felt about what she had in the past done. He said he cared for her so he did not care. (paraphrasing there before the pedantic brigade post).

I am not comparing Escorts to Maxine Carr before someone jumps to that. I am saying if you are attracted to someone you do not care about any of their infidelities, their past actions. You would look past it.

Am I odd for thinking that way?

Offline Jimmyredcab



If a girl who has slept with a shed load of guys doesn't respect herself, why should I?

Sorry, but I am slightly confused.

Why is it OK for us to fuck hundreds of prossies but wrong for a prossie to have fucked hundreds of clients.  :hi:

Offline AnthG


Why is it OK for us to fuck hundreds of prossies but wrong for a prossie to have fucked hundreds of clients.  :hi:

Think its this line its explained

rule of three. Guys will multiply their number of sexual conquests by three, girls will divide theirs.

The ideal guy to a women will have had a hundred partners.

The ideal women to a guy will have had none.

Offline Daffodil

I am not saying Escorts in general should be respected for their choice of job role (which so there is no confusion I personally am in the yes they should camp on that one too).

What I am saying is if you are attracted to someone, you don't care.

I remember a year or so ago a newspaper article saying Maxine Carr is in a committed relationship now. The guy was asked how he felt about what she had in the past done. He said he cared for her so he did not care. (paraphrasing there before the pedantic brigade post).

I am not comparing Escorts to Maxine Carr before someone jumps to that. I am saying if you are attracted to someone you do not care about any of their infidelities, their past actions. You would look past it.

Am I odd for thinking that way?

I don't think you're odd. It is certainly the romantic's view.

I wish I could be like that a little more.

Comparing Maxine Carr with escorts? I like your manouevering attempts to distance yourself from it but fear it might be too late  :D

Offline Daffodil

Think its this line its explained

The ideal guy to a women will have had a hundred partners.

The ideal women to a guy will have had none.

Maybe not quite but I think women have less of an issue with their partner having had multiple relationships than the other way round. As does society of course.

That said, I didn't say it was 'OK for us to fuck hundreds of prossies but wrong for a prossie to have fucked hundreds of clients'. I keep my punting life to myself for this reason and would totally understand why a girl wouldn't want to date me because I had been fucking pro$$ies.

Offline AnthG

Comparing Maxine Carr with escorts? I like your manouevering attempts to distance yourself from it but fear it might be too late  :D

Before they kick off.

I said MC as it was the most extreme example to prove my point, that it does not matter what someone has done.

Offline Cactus

Before they kick off.

I said MC as it was the most extreme example to prove my point, that it does not matter what someone has done.

MC? Hammer? What's he got to do with the price of cheese? :crazy:

Hammertime!

Offline smiths

As my point earlier, why risk unsettling a good thing for a few quid. Let it come from her.

Absolutely right. As i said before if it were a question of doing overnighters which are of no interest to me but if they were the saving by haggling that could be made would make it worthwhile. ;)

Offline 1234

What's the word I am looking for to describe you...?

erm.

 :unknown: :unknown: :unknown:


FANTASTIC  :dancegirl:


WONDERFUL  :rose:


AMAZING  :angelgirl:


All poor descriptions of your kind self.

 :hi:

Whilst I admit I do this job for the money I have also made some great friends from it.  One of whom recently was mourning the death of his wife as it had been one year, I knew he would be feeling really lonely so I invited him round for a coffee and gave him a free booking as well.  Free bookings do happen, not often but occassionally. 
It is no different than having a reg who books a 3 hour slot every couple of weeks so as a thankyou, you extend sometimes to 4 hours.  These two guys I have also bought xmas presents for as they mean a lot to me as people.  Even if they stopped being clients I would still like to see them socially as we have a connection and have become very good friends
I think a girl would have to be very cold hearted to not make a connection or friendship with someone she is intimate with on a regular basis (unless they were awful people and then she shouldnt see them anyway) and who she gets on well with. Perhaps it is just me (from what other girls write on here and other sites) but I would hope it is not. 

I think the problem is too many girls forget the client is human too.  They hate their job so they switch off during bookings so dont form any sort of connection.  Everyone works to a way that suits them which is fine as long as they remember they only earn money thanks to the clients visiting them and so should also remember they are human too

Offline foresight

Sorry, but I am slightly confused.

Why is it OK for us to fuck hundreds of prossies but wrong for a prossie to have fucked hundreds of clients.  :hi:

 :drinks:  :drinks:

I think it's called double standards

Offline philuk1uk

Carmen it's about sticking with what works for you. If it doesn't work for the clients, then it won't work for you and you'd notice a problem. Not every guy chooses by sheer price alone.

Exactly, price is undoubtedly a major factor for some guys, for others, like myself, price is a factor but a smaller one behind things like what quality of service can I expect, the ladies reputation, do I fancy her, etc.  There is 1 lady I hope to see soon who is more expensive then I have ever paid before but I know from doing my research that the quality of the service, her reputation and her physical attributes are all what I am looking for, so I am willing to spend a little more on this occasion.

Offline James999

If a guy likes a particular girl and wants to "bargain" with her then a good ay is to E mail her as follows....


Hi
Seen your profile and am impressed (Flattery) and I would like to come and see you, the problem is that your rates are a little higher than I usually pay (Blaming yourself not her) I'm sure you are worth your rate (So she doesnt feel you are knocking her) but it;s a little beyond me (again blaming yourself not her) do you ever do any Specails or early bird rates as a lot of girls do? if you do it would be great to hear from you and hopefully arrange something.


That gives her the option of dropping her rate (if she wants do) by doing you a favour as opposed to you bargaining her down.

Tony Montana


I wouldn't walk down the street with a girl that used to/is a pro$$ie knowing half the guys we pass have probably had a ride.

This is probably a contentious view (and one maybe best saved for a punters only board  ;) ;) ) but I would struggle to respect a girl who had been selling herself.

Well I'm with AnthG on this one.  I spent a very enjoyable afternoon last week with a WG (or should that be a "G" as she wasn't working at the time ). We went to a coffee shop and to the cinema. 

It didn't even cross my mind that we might be seen by a client and anyway, why would I care about the opinion of a person I don't know?  A client can hardly stigmatise a WG that he has paid to have sex with.

I respect WGs as people who happen to have chosen that particular career, and God bless 'em for it.  How else would I get a young gorgeous blonde to suck my cock  ;)

Offline mattylondon

Why couldn't you? Of course you could.

if you are in a relationship with someone it means you want to be with them. You wouldn't care what they had done.

I take it what you were saying you liked her, but not so much to want a relationship with her - which is nothing to be ashamed of.

I know what you're saying, but to your first line, a lack of trust.

Your second observation of the situation is spot on.

Offline mattylondon

Whilst I admit I do this job for the money I have also made some great friends from it.  One of whom recently was mourning the death of his wife as it had been one year, I knew he would be feeling really lonely so I invited him round for a coffee and gave him a free booking as well.  Free bookings do happen, not often but occassionally. 
It is no different than having a reg who books a 3 hour slot every couple of weeks so as a thankyou, you extend sometimes to 4 hours.  These two guys I have also bought xmas presents for as they mean a lot to me as people.  Even if they stopped being clients I would still like to see them socially as we have a connection and have become very good friends. 
I think a girl would have to be very cold hearted to not make a connection or friendship with someone she is intimate with on a regular basis (unless they were awful people and then she shouldnt see them anyway) and who she gets on well with. Perhaps it is just me (from what other girls write on here and other sites) but I would hope it is not. 

I think the problem is too many girls forget the client is human too.  They hate their job so they switch off during bookings so dont form any sort of connection.  Everyone works to a way that suits them which is fine as long as they remember they only earn money thanks to the clients visiting them and so should also remember they are human too

Everything you've said there is absolutely spot on. I couldn't agree more.

Although I don't personally have any association with a wg in my private life and wouldn't entertain it, I have had on occasion many an extended non-sexual chat after a booking. You learn a great many things sometimes. Not every runs a production line service or is a cold hearted bitch like certain people appear to be!
« Last Edit: November 23, 2011, 07:35:14 PM by mattylondon »

Offline mattylondon

Blinkers on again Anth. You might be able to but a lot of guys wouldn't.

I wouldn't walk down the street with a girl that used to/is a pro$$ie knowing half the guys we pass have probably had a ride.

This is probably a contentious view (and one maybe best saved for a punters only board  ;) ;) ) but I would struggle to respect a girl who had been selling herself.

Again, my feeling exactly. I simply wouldn't respect her in the same way as I should a partner. I'm sorry if that offends, but it's simply the truth. She is always going to be better off having a clean break, with no previous connections.

Offline mattylondon

Sorry, but I am slightly confused.

Why is it OK for us to fuck hundreds of prossies but wrong for a prossie to have fucked hundreds of clients.  :hi:

Because she has effectively, for good or ill, put a price on herself and is available (generally) to anybody willing to meet that price, young or old, good looking or ugly, polite or rude and so on.

That is not the same as somebody making a free choice, by picking and choosing who they see, according to their own personal standards. Mind you, some punters probably have no standards and I've made some bad choices myself!

Yes, there's a little double standard here, but I'm never going to go down on a 65 year old woman for cash, for example! Fuck that. I'm worth more than that. The position of a prossie is somewhat different, is it not?
« Last Edit: November 23, 2011, 07:36:41 PM by mattylondon »

Offline mattylondon

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I don't want to pay silly high outcall rates of 150/hr so I'm not too concerned if I offend by politely asking for 120/hr instead.

From experience ones who do outcalls-only are more likely to accept lower offers and more success on getting discounts for same-day bookings rather than advance bookings.

The other way to get an outcall fee more to your liking from an escort who charges around £150 is to do a reverse booking on Adultwork.

I've done it and had a lot of success in the past. I stick to quickies and 30 minutes these days, but I never went beyond £100 on a reverse bid and always got bids from girls who were in the £150 bracket.

It's a win, win. You get a rate you're more comfortable with. She gets a definite booking in advance and can work her other clients around you, rather than sometimes get broken promises from time wasting clients.

Try it and let us all know how you get on?

Offline Cactus

If a guy likes a particular girl and wants to "bargain" with her then a good ay is to E mail her as follows....


Hi
Seen your profile and am impressed (Flattery) and I would like to come and see you, the problem is that your rates are a little higher than I usually pay (Blaming yourself not her) I'm sure you are worth your rate (So she doesnt feel you are knocking her) but it;s a little beyond me (again blaming yourself not her) do you ever do any Specails or early bird rates as a lot of girls do? if you do it would be great to hear from you and hopefully arrange something.


That gives her the option of dropping her rate (if she wants do) by doing you a favour as opposed to you bargaining her down.

3231 posts and finally a good one  :drinks: ....  Hats of to you sir  :hi:

Offline mattylondon

Carmen it's about sticking with what works for you. If it doesn't work for the clients, then it won't work for you and you'd notice a problem. Not every guy chooses by sheer price alone.

I was simply saying that just because I place a certain value on a girl that doesn't match their own valuation, it doesn't mean I think they are worthless. It's just a difference in opinion on what a girl and her services are worth to that individual. There is no right or wrong view.

I do not book an escort based solely on price. There are plenty of girls out there who are very good looking, provide an excellent service and charge a rate that suits my particular needs. I do not make assumptions about girls based on the rates they set. Perhaps others do, it is true.

I have no problems finding such girls and you must understand, there is an awful lot more competition in London than Cumbria or even Manchester! We're comparing apples with oranges here (or Strawberries).. even if they are both nice looking ones, in their own way!
« Last Edit: November 23, 2011, 08:38:06 PM by mattylondon »

Offline James999

I was simply saying that just because I place a certain value on a girl that doesn't match their own valuation, it doesn't mean I think they are worthless. It's just a difference in opinion on what a girl and her services are worth to that individual. There is no right or wrong view.
I do not book an escort based solely on price. There are plenty of girls out there who are very good looking, provide an excellent service and charge a rate that suits my particular needs. I do not make assumptions about girls based on the rates they set. Perhaps others do, it is true.
I have no problems finding such girls and you must understand, there is an awful lot more competition in London than Cumbria! We're comparing apples with oranges here (or Strawberries).. even if they are both nice looking ones, in their own way!

So with all that choice and wisdom you punted this Munter   :vomit:


I  took a punt on "Michelle Gold" of Adultwork, about a year back.


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