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Offline punk

To me it sounds like you are simply grateful to fuck a woman. The prossie should be grateful you chose her given there are always other options.

At least i am not the only one thinking that.

Offline SamLP

There seems to be two confusing discussions about thanking prossies.

 - I would never thank a prossie for seeing me. She's advertising services and I agree that she should be thanking a customer for choosing her as their SP. Most of the girls I see say thank you when handing over the money. Those that don't are ungrateful ones that won't be seeing me again. On arrival, it's a hello, small chit chat to break the ice and confirmation of services. No thanks or gratitude need be said.

- A polite thank you or thanks at the end to signify an approval for a good service. It's not gratuitous or OTT. Usually said when leaving, a quick thank you and have a nice day. Following on from the punt, a review is simply that, a description of services and attitude along with a rating of her performance. Not a love letter nor a acceptance speech thanking said prossie for seeing said punter and delivering the services she is meant to deliver as she advertises.

Offline Jimmyredcab



But last night I arrived 15 mins late (council estate) to see a new WG and left more an hour over time.

THAT deserved a 'thanks for tonight' message because it was highly unusual and a fucking good punt.

I can't comment on that because in 30+ years of punting I have never had a punt go one hour over time, you must be one hell of a stud.     :rolleyes:

James999

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I can't comment on that because in 30+ years of punting I have never had a punt go one hour over time, you must be one hell of a stud.   

Or having trouble getting it up (Again)  :music:

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Offline Jimmyredcab

fantasists comes  to mind

I think I might know the true identity of west8  -------------------  Jamie Dornan.

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Offline NightKid

I think I might know the true identity of west8  -------------------  Jamie Dornan.

More likely Anastasia Steele, the way he writes.  :sarcastic:

Tony Montana

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From the punting wiki

Fluffy: Often derogatory term to describe a punter who sees all prostitutes through rose tinted glasses and can become too emotionally attached, in severe cases may be suffering from EAS


That's certainly not me then despite what some on here would say.

I think you can tell the mark of a person by how they treat the people they don't have to be nice to, cleaners, waiters, checkout assistants etc.

So, I would thank a WG if she gave me a good service, partly out of politeness but also with the ulterior motive of not wanting to be remembered as an arrogant twat when i want to book her again.


Offline Jimmyredcab



I think you can tell the mark of a person by how they treat the people they don't have to be nice to, cleaners, waiters, checkout assistants etc.


Why do checkout assistants have to make small talk, they should be gagged in my opinion.    :bomb:

unclesweetheart

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To me it sounds like you are simply grateful to fuck a woman. The prossie should be grateful you chose her given there are always other options.

1. As a 57 year old ordinary-looking guy (at best) I am very grateful to live in a society that allows me to fuck beautiful women provided I pay for it. I'm grateful to the women who I pay to fuck because they're (now) regulars who've been happy to have me return. Yes of course they're happy to have my money, and they wouldn't have sex with me if I didn't pay, but all the girls I see are very popular and if I was a cunt they could easily see another punter instead. We have a lot of fun, each of us benefits, it's a you-scratch-my-back etc arrangement that works very nicely for both of us, I leave feeling great... not exactly sure who I should feel grateful to for that - David Cameron maybe, for not making buying sex illegal? Maybe I should send him a little thank you note rather than an individual girl?

2. In my experience, the girls DO thank me. By text, in person. Not always, but in over half the times. Not because I'm a stud, or handsome, but because (I think) we've had a fun time together. Because the paid-for exchange of fluids (my spunk in her mouth; her pussy juices all over my face and fingers etc) has gone well, there's been lots of banter, lots of laughs, chat etc. The meeting has gone well. So here's the thing: if a WG thanks me first, am I then allowed to thank her back? Or should I just accept her thanks as simply my due, and maintain a stony, Clint Eastwoodesque silence in response?

west8

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I can't comment on that because in 30+ years of punting I have never had a punt go one hour over time, you must be one hell of a stud.     :rolleyes:

Nope. I'm usually a one or two pop guy - even if it's a two or three or four hour booking. Guess we're choosing different types of girls as I'm rarely out of any door on time.

Quesadilla

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Uncle, there is nothing wrong with having some manners. The Anti-Fluffy brigade either forget that (or simply hate the fact that that) paid sex is unlike any other service out there. Anything sexual must be consensual - by definition otherwise it's rape. So when an escort consents to open her legs for money she is in fact doing you a favour.

Unlike in most other lines of work where you would have to be blatantly and proactively rude to get turned away a wg can turn you away because she doesnt like your race, colour, personal hygiene, attitude, even the way you present yourself in an email or on the phone. It is her perogative to fuck you or not, and her services are at her discretion.

In answer to Ali Katts post - having fucked the same woman for 13 years I personally am not remotely grateful just for the opportunity to fuck a woman. I am however grateful for the opportunity to fuck women of almost any age, race, height, weight, extrmely hot / beautiful women, women that are actually very skilled at all things sexual in a way very few civvies are, and who are willing to let me do things to them that even fewer civvies will consent to.

In my view escorts perform a valuable service which is already stigmatised by society at large. In many cases they have every reason to just go through the motions mechanically so when I find an escort who delivers a genuinely good service I think it's frankly incredibly rude not to recognise and acknowledge that.

Those good sp's often become regulars - and by the nature of their services are naturally very popular ladies - and they generally bend over backwards to accommodate my schedule, and are happy to run over time, not because I'm a paying customer - as they have many - but because I'm polite and respectful which as this thread demonstrates may be the exception for them and not the rule.

A good working girl is an expensive luxury, but respect and good manners cost nothing.  :drinks:

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respect and good manners cost nothing

i agree

Offline Deepstroker

Apologies, i am new here. Could someone please explain the fluffy thing to me? I did used to hang out on another site but the mod there is in my opinion a bully.

Offline hendrix

It's a good thing that there's absolutely no connection between rude, arrogant twats and the level of service they seem to  experience from escorts versus those who are polite, respectful and happy to engage in a friendly manner, including phrases like "thanks, that was great fun! " when dealing with a good prossie.

That would be ludicrous clearly.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Uncle, there is nothing wrong with having some manners. The Anti-Fluffy brigade either forget that (or simply hate the fact that that) paid sex is unlike any other service out there. Anything sexual must be consensual - by definition otherwise it's rape. So when an escort consents to open her legs for money she is in fact doing you a favour.


Complete, utter bollocks.      :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash:

She allows you to fuck her because you have handed over £xxx, no other reason ---------- she is NOT, repeat NOT doing you a favour.     :bomb: :bomb:

James999

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It's queds fucked up attitude that saw him pay £300 just to chat to a pro$$ie, he's clearly confusing paid sex with some form of relationship  :thumbsdown:

StPunt

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now ive said earlier in the thread i dont see saying thanks at the end of a service as fluffy, not that i do it myself but nothing wrong with it but to say they are doing you a favour is a bit ridiculous ques. i think you've taken fluffiness to a whole new level there fella

Offline Daffodil

When the barman pours me a drink I say thanks. Am I truly grateful he deemed me worthy of the pint? No. And did he deem me worthy and therefore pour me a pint? No. Am I fluffy towards barmen? No.

Saying thanks does not infer the above, it's just polite in my eyes. Also, if I'm in a queue next time at the bar with a few others, might it be possible he serves me first based on our previous interaction? Self interest lads.

I say thanks to prossies as I leave. Just as I thank the guy who sells me my paper, the bus driver as I get off, and yes, even my taxi driver. Provided the service was as expected of course.

Genuinely being grateful that a prossie saw you is, of course, fluffy but, simply saying "cheers" as you leave is not the same thing.

Offline Daffodil

Uncle, there is nothing wrong with having some manners. The Anti-Fluffy brigade either forget that (or simply hate the fact that that) paid sex is unlike any other service out there. Anything sexual must be consensual - by definition otherwise it's rape. So when an escort consents to open her legs for money she is in fact doing you a favour.

Unlike in most other lines of work where you would have to be blatantly and proactively rude to get turned away a wg can turn you away because she doesnt like your race, colour, personal hygiene, attitude, even the way you present yourself in an email or on the phone. It is her perogative to fuck you or not, and her services are at her discretion.

In answer to Ali Katts post - having fucked the same woman for 13 years I personally am not remotely grateful just for the opportunity to fuck a woman. I am however grateful for the opportunity to fuck women of almost any age, race, height, weight, extrmely hot / beautiful women, women that are actually very skilled at all things sexual in a way very few civvies are, and who are willing to let me do things to them that even fewer civvies will consent to.

In my view escorts perform a valuable service which is already stigmatised by society at large. In many cases they have every reason to just go through the motions mechanically so when I find an escort who delivers a genuinely good service I think it's frankly incredibly rude not to recognise and acknowledge that.

Those good sp's often become regulars - and by the nature of their services are naturally very popular ladies - and they generally bend over backwards to accommodate my schedule, and are happy to run over time, not because I'm a paying customer - as they have many - but because I'm polite and respectful which as this thread demonstrates may be the exception for them and not the rule.

A good working girl is an expensive luxury, but respect and good manners cost nothing.  :drinks:

You are clearly moronic  :hi:

Is a newsagent doing you a favour because he sells you a tube of smarties?

A prossie is a service provider. You pay her, she fucks you.

You perhaps need to check up on the definition of "a favour"  :dash:

Offline SamLP

Doing a guy a favour is when a girl doesn't take money from a guy and she probably isn't attracted to him but wants to give him some gratification. If she's attracted to him and there's mutual chemistry it isn't a favour, it's sexual lust.

Once money passes hands there is NO favour, it's a service being provided. If it was a favour she wouldn't be accepting any money.

Quesadilla

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now ive said earlier in the thread i dont see saying thanks at the end of a service as fluffy, not that i do it myself but nothing wrong with it but to say they are doing you a favour is a bit ridiculous ques. i think you've taken fluffiness to a whole new level there fella
It's not remotely fluffy.  It's just plain fact.  If you pay a prostitute for sex and for whatever reason she decides not to go through with it you still have no legal or moral right to force her.   She should certainly return the cash in answer to James' comment, and if she doesn't she's a thieving con artist who should not be in this business - as I know from bitter experience and will continue to do everything I can to make sure that one particular skank never works again. 

But philosophically, legally, morally, if a woman has sex with you it's her choice and has NOTHING to do with you paying her.   

If you disagree with that - JRC et al - by all means try arguing it in a court of law after you have sex simply because you paid but without her consent. "I bought her dinner / took her shopping / gave her cash" is no get out clause and will result in the prompt end to your liberty as well as your punting career as you wind up on the sex offenders register.  :hi:

Obviously a working girl who is really fussy who she sees is not going to get much trade - but as long as she has enough trade to meet her financial goals she really doesn't have to give a shit. 

Argue the toss all you want - it's ultimately her choice so IMHO that means she's doing you a favour.

Offline Jimmyredcab



Argue the toss all you want - it's ultimately her choice so IMHO that means she's doing you a favour.

Strange that in over 30+ years of punting I have never been refused by a pro$$ie --------------- and I am an ugly old cunt.  :rolleyes:

Let me tell you something about pro$$ies, if you had no money they would not piss on you to put out a fire ---------- they are not in the habit of doing "favours".     :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

James999

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It's not remotely fluffy.  It's just plain fact.  If you pay a prostitute for sex and for whatever reason she decides not to go through with it

Then you don't pay her, in the same way if you go into a petrol station and don't fill up with petrol you don't pay for petrol  :sarcastic:

Only a complete fucking idiot would pay a pro$$ie for sex and not have sex with her  :hi:

Quesadilla

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You are clearly moronic  :hi:

Is a newsagent doing you a favour because he sells you a tube of smarties?

A prossie is a service provider. You pay her, she fucks you.

You perhaps need to check up on the definition of "a favour"  :dash:

If you pay for a tube of smarties, then the newsagent refuses to hand them over, you call the police and and they will insist he hand them over as they are bought and paid for and he is in the wrong.  Under the Sale Of Goods Act he can't then claim actually he wants them back. Although you have all sorts of rights to return the goods if they're not as advertised.

Not the same with punting is it?  You pay, she fucks you - but only if she chooses and as long as you stay within the constraints that she has set - which services are allowed, where you can touch her, how roughly you can touch her, and so on.  At any point she can call a halt and again she can either refund you part of the money or none, entirely her choice. 

You have no rights to demand she deliver the service paid for nor any say over how she delivers those services.  It's not like any other service because it's all her choice as it's her body. You pay to play but it doesn't give you any rights over her whatsoever.


Offline mcardle464

+1 Q.

I do wonder if some UKP ers are aware of the concept of "enlightened self interest"  or what my granny would call "catching more flies (?!) with sugar than vinegar."

In other words, being nice to people makes them respond better. In all sorts of situations. My postie dropped some letters through my open door in the summer - one fell behind the radiator so he knocked on the door to let me know - it actually was important mail;  I'm sure he did that because I am friendly to him, know his name, and don't just treat him like a "service provider".

One of my outcalls stayed for twice the length of time booked.  I think pretty much everyone, even if they are providing a service, likes to be treated as a human being. That's my position, call it fluffy if you like. 

Quesadilla

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Strange that in over 30+ years of punting I have never been refused by a pro$$ie --------------- and I am an ugly old cunt.  :rolleyes:

Let me tell you something about pro$$ies, if you had no money they would not piss on you to put out a fire ---------- they are not in the habit of doing "favours".     :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I think you should be especially grateful then JRC.  :hi:

Offline Jimmyredcab

You pay to play but it doesn't give you any rights over her whatsoever.
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You accept photos like this when paying £150 an hour, that tells me everything I need to know about you -------

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Offline cueball

and I am an ugly old cunt.

Don't be too hard on yourself Jimmy, I'm sure at one time you were an ugly young cunt

StPunt

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i think you're looking into it too deeply, you pay money for a service. its fine to thank them at the end of the service just like you thank the barman for a drink but its not a favour.

...your point about them choosing to sleep with you after money is exchanged, well they wouldnt get much return business if they kept your money and said 'get out' would they and in addition to that a wg knows going down this route would eventually upset the wrong sort of unsavoury character anyway which would put a stop to that. And also in the majority of cases the man is stronger than the woman so in a private setting he'd just grab the cash back off her.

They have a good look at you when you come through the door anyway so if you have poor hygiene or bad manners from the get go money isnt exchanged in the first place and i should imagine the client is asked to leave.


James999

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or what my granny would call "catching more flies (?!) with sugar than vinegar."

Was your granny a pro$$ie?

Lovely to hear your grannys tales, but in the example you provide the best way to attract flies is actually SHIT  :hi:

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Offline Sedlmayer

I'm finding this thread fascinating.

I wonder if forums for real ale buffs have similar prolonged debates about whether saying thanks to the barman for pulling you a pint makes you the CAMRA equivalent of a fluffy cunt  :drinks:

Quesadilla

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i think you're looking into it too deeply, you pay money for a service. its fine to thank them at the end of the service just like you thank the barman for a drink but its not a favour.

...your point about them choosing to sleep with you after money is exchanged, well they wouldnt get much return business if they kept your money and said 'get out' would they and in addition to that a wg knows going down this route would eventually upset the wrong sort of unsavoury character anyway which would put a stop to that. And also in the majority of cases the man is stronger than the woman so in a private setting he'd just grab the cash back off her.

They have a good look at you when you come through the door anyway so if you have poor hygiene or bad manners from the get go money isnt exchanged in the first place and i should imagine the client is asked to leave.

As you rightly say - as did I - escorts know that they won't get much repeat business if they are too fussy and may get a reputation which results in a dusty phone. 

But having good hygiene and good manners appear to be a basic requirement, and in most cases I assume even the crustiest, meanest, ugliest punters like JRC do the basics which is why they don't get turned away. 
 

Quesadilla

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You accept photos like this when paying £150 an hour, that tells me everything I need to know about you -------

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Err...which is that I am more interested in services and attitude from a WG than looks and trust the reviews of my peers.  We all know what you think of your peers don't we JRC?  That tells me everything I need to know about you. :hi:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Err...which is that I am more interested in services and attitude from a WG than looks and trust the reviews of my peers. We all know what you think of your peers don't we JRC? That tells me everything I need to know about you. :hi:

I have the greatest respect for many of our members, less respect for some others ------------- I only have one arsewipe on ignore, that is not bad after 4 years +.     :hi:

unclesweetheart

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It's not remotely fluffy.  It's just plain fact.  If you pay a prostitute for sex and for whatever reason she decides not to go through with it you still have no legal or moral right to force her.   She should certainly return the cash in answer to James' comment, and if she doesn't she's a thieving con artist who should not be in this business - as I know from bitter experience and will continue to do everything I can to make sure that one particular skank never works again. 

But philosophically, legally, morally, if a woman has sex with you it's her choice and has NOTHING to do with you paying her.   

If you disagree with that - JRC et al - by all means try arguing it in a court of law after you have sex simply because you paid but without her consent. "I bought her dinner / took her shopping / gave her cash" is no get out clause and will result in the prompt end to your liberty as well as your punting career as you wind up on the sex offenders register.  :hi:

Obviously a working girl who is really fussy who she sees is not going to get much trade - but as long as she has enough trade to meet her financial goals she really doesn't have to give a shit. 

Argue the toss all you want - it's ultimately her choice so IMHO that means she's doing you a favour.

Brilliant and unanswerable post, Q. The fact that in response to it you've just received ad hominem attacks rather than reasoned argument is predictable but attests to the strength of your case. I hadn't realised the legal position but thanks for that. :drinks:

As an ordinary respectful/clean/polite and, yes GRATEFUL punter, I've had discounts from girls, the sessions have extended by up to an hour & more, (frankly outrageously horny) sex has been offered on a supposedly non-sexual dinner date (paying half the usual rate)... and not, to repeat, because I'm any great shakes to look at - for all I know I could be an even uglier cunt than JRC. But perhaps it's because, at root, I don't believe that the girls I see wouldn't piss on me to put out a fire but are, in fact, sexually confident & liberated & expert, beautiful young women who are using their natural advantages and temperaments to make a lot of money. And who are consenting to sex with me (the legal position which you explain). And the sex is the best I've ever had in my life - for the reasons which you also explain well, Q. Thanks, girls, say I - and thanks again Q.

StPunt

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i think a few of you have managed to out-fluff yourselves, being respectfull, clean and polite was never debated, some just disagreed on the 'doing you a favour' issue. So they are doing you a favour if they dont chuck you out without giving your money back? :wackogirl:

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in this world of sex registers and all that goes with it
eg no photos of your kid at swimming pool etc
just remember if your wg is really pissed off with you or something else
a thank you for seeing me may be the difference
between ok bye

and call the police that man did this and that to me etc press charges and all that brings with it !!

far fetched but could happen
all for the lack of a thank you ???? :vomit:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Let me try my best to define " a favour".

Over the weekend my cab broke down, on Monday morning I turned up at my regular garage without an appointment, the mechanic stopped what he was doing and started working on my cab right away ----------- he could have told me to leave the cab and come back later, I regard that as a favour.
When a girl accepts a booking from me and I pay her £120 or whatever to fuck her that is a business agreement, I have never said "thank you" for taking my money -------------- and I never would.    :crazy:

Offline Jimmyredcab

in this world of sex registers and all that goes with it
eg no photos of your kid at swimming pool etc
just remember if your wg is really pissed off with you or something else
a thank you for seeing me may be the difference
between ok bye

and call the police that man did this and that to me etc press charges and all that brings with it !!

far fetched but could happen
all for the lack of a thank you ???? :vomit:

The girl might phone the police because you did not thank her.    :unknown: :unknown: :unknown:

Please tell me you are joking.    :crazy:

Offline NIK

Brilliant and unanswerable post, Q. The fact that in response to it you've just received ad hominem attacks rather than reasoned argument is predictable but attests to the strength of your case. I hadn't realised the legal position but thanks for that. :drinks:

As an ordinary respectful/clean/polite and, yes GRATEFUL punter, I've had discounts from girls, the sessions have extended by up to an hour & more, (frankly outrageously horny) sex has been offered on a supposedly non-sexual dinner date (paying half the usual rate)... and not, to repeat, because I'm any great shakes to look at - for all I know I could be an even uglier cunt than JRC. But perhaps it's because, at root, I don't believe that the girls I see wouldn't piss on me to put out a fire but are, in fact, sexually confident & liberated & expert, beautiful young women who are using their natural advantages and temperaments to make a lot of money. And who are consenting to sex with me (the legal position which you explain). And the sex is the best I've ever had in my life - for the reasons which you also explain well, Q. Thanks, girls, say I - and thanks again Q.

I think you are exaggerating the beauty of prossies. Very few of them are truly beautiful. If they were they wouldn't be prossying.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2015, 02:32:45 pm by NIK »

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people have a nasty way of overreacting sometimes !

Offline Jimmyredcab

I think you are exaggerating the beauty of prossies. Very few of them are truly beautiful. If they were they wouldn't be prossying.

Very true, I see far more beautiful girls walking around the City or on the London Underground.    :hi:

James999

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I think you are exaggerating the beauty of prossies. Very few of them are truly beautiful. If they were they wouldn't be prossying.

Ouch, that's gotta hurt, the truth is sometimes a bitter pill  :hi:

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Let me try my best to define " a favour".

Over the weekend my cab broke down, on Monday morning I turned up at my regular garage without an appointment, the mechanic stopped what he was doing and started working on my cab right away ----------- he could have told me to leave the cab and come back later, I regard that as a favour.
When a girl accepts a booking from me and I pay her £120 or whatever to fuck her that is a business agreement, I have never said "thank you" for taking my money -------------- and I never would.    :crazy:
so did you say thank you to your mechanic for doing you a favour
 because if you didnt i guess next time you want a favour he will be too busy
and when you are  gone he will  say fuck off you ungrateful cunt that the last favour i will do for you you never had the decency to even say THANK YOU !

James999

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so did you say thank you to your mechanic for doing you a favour
 because if you didnt i guess next time you want a favour he will be too busy
and when you are  gone he will  say fuck off you ungrateful cunt that the last favour i will do for you you never had the decency to even say THANK YOU !

Stop being a cunt  :hi:

Offline punk

Why do checkout assistants have to make small talk, they should be gagged in my opinion.    :bomb:

All part of the American style customer service that companies now a days get the hard for.

Offline punk

It's queds fucked up attitude that saw him pay £300 just to chat to a pro$$ie, he's clearly confusing paid sex with some form of relationship  :thumbsdown:

:D    :crazy: :wacko: 

James999

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All part of the American style customer service that companies now a days get the hard for.

It's bollocks, in the bank I had some dumb tart asking all sorts of pointless questions, I pointed out to her that if she stopped asking stupid questions the queue would be a lot shorter  :sarcastic:

Like the fucking Survey, everyone wants to do a survey about your experience, but do fuck all with it apart from use it in their future advertising   :unknown:

Offline Jimmyredcab

so did you say thank you to your mechanic for doing you a favour
 because if you didnt i guess next time you want a favour he will be too busy


No, I didn't say thank you ------------------------- I gave him a £15 tip, that GUARANTEES me that I will get a prompt service next time I visit the garage.    :hi: