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Author Topic: Redemption for cancelling - can a negative be converted to a positive?  (Read 3503 times)

Offline SamLP

I've read several reviews where a WG has cancelled on a punter especially last minute. Usually a message saying sorry is deemed enough for them to cancel, and even if an explanation was offered it would be probably a false one. So what should a girl do to avoid a negative and turn it into a positive and can it be done?

It often dumbfounds me that a girl would think cancelling at the last minute is acceptable without offering a solution. Some examples of solutions I think would help a WG covert a negative into a positive:

- Sorry to cancel, emergency/feeling ill. Can I offer you a booking tomorrow or at your convenience and I will happily discount £X for your troubles.
- Sorry to cancel, emergency/etc. Can I offer you a booking tomorrow or at your convenience and I will throw in anal/cim at no extra charge.
- Sorry to cancel, can I offer you an hours booking charged at my half hour rate to make up for it. I'm available tomorrow and all week until 8pm.

If a girl did that when cancelling I believe she would redeem herself and convert a potential negative into a positive. The positive would obviously come when she goes through with her promise as the closest available convenience for the punter. I'm assuming the cancellations took place on the day of the punt or when the punter was on his way. Any cancellations made before the day may be subject to a different process although a good WG would still offer to compensate the cancellation with some kind of offer.


Offline west8

Ha! I was actually thinking of a similar thread last night.

Personally, I would never accept a discount, a free extension/free time or chargeable 'extras' at no cost.

But what I would accept is a simple apology and a seriously positive attitude during the subsequent meeting.

Offline Jimmyredcab

It is open to debate whether a girl should get a negative review just because she cancelled ------------- it is however within the rules of this forum, on the other forum money has to change hands before a review can be submitted. 

Offline Dani

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I sometimes have to cancel bookings that have been booked in advance but I warn people this may happen as I have a problem that means some days I cannot work and I never know what days they will be until I wake up that morning.

Knocking a bit off the price doesn't hurt the provider in anyway but it does make the customer feel better about being cancelled on.  Not everyone takes you up on it and some will say don't worry as they knew it was a possibility (I don't like taking bookings too far in advance because of this).  However just being offered it lets them know it was a genuine cancellation and not the provider deciding they couldnt be bothered or had a better offer.

I got the idea from here when the forum was very new and it seemed a bloody good idea and a good way to apologise as well.  Many self employed businesses do this now as a way of saying we do appreciate your business but we are sorry we couldn't do it at the agreed time. 

If you are charging over £100 an hour knocking £20 off is not going to cause you any financial distress and means you wont get a negative review (unless you keep doing it and never actually give them the discounted booking).  Its just good business sense to give an incentive for them to rebook and shows you are genuinely sorry


Offline smiths

I've read several reviews where a WG has cancelled on a punter especially last minute. Usually a message saying sorry is deemed enough for them to cancel, and even if an explanation was offered it would be probably a false one. So what should a girl do to avoid a negative and turn it into a positive and can it be done?

It often dumbfounds me that a girl would think cancelling at the last minute is acceptable without offering a solution. Some examples of solutions I think would help a WG covert a negative into a positive:

- Sorry to cancel, emergency/feeling ill. Can I offer you a booking tomorrow or at your convenience and I will happily discount £X for your troubles.
- Sorry to cancel, emergency/etc. Can I offer you a booking tomorrow or at your convenience and I will throw in anal/cim at no extra charge.
- Sorry to cancel, can I offer you an hours booking charged at my half hour rate to make up for it. I'm available tomorrow and all week until 8pm.

If a girl did that when cancelling I believe she would redeem herself and convert a potential negative into a positive. The positive would obviously come when she goes through with her promise as the closest available convenience for the punter. I'm assuming the cancellations took place on the day of the punt or when the punter was on his way. Any cancellations made before the day may be subject to a different process although a good WG would still offer to compensate the cancellation with some kind of offer.

I personally don't believe any reasons from newbie WGs to me, what I do is compare other women I do business with outside punting who very rarely cancel appointments and ask myself why percentage wise WGs have so many last minute accidents and give other unprovable reasons to cancel in my experiences.

I also have a zero tolerance nowadays, if I get fucked about I post about it on here. I have heard every excuse going over the years and I daresay some are genuine, problem is I don't know which are and which aren't.

Offline greychap

I've read several reviews where a WG has cancelled on a punter especially last minute. Usually a message saying sorry is deemed enough for them to cancel, and even if an explanation was offered it would be probably a false one. So what should a girl do to avoid a negative and turn it into a positive and can it be done?

It often dumbfounds me that a girl would think cancelling at the last minute is acceptable without offering a solution. Some examples of solutions I think would help a WG covert a negative into a positive:

- Sorry to cancel, emergency/feeling ill. Can I offer you a booking tomorrow or at your convenience and I will happily discount £X for your troubles.
- Sorry to cancel, emergency/etc. Can I offer you a booking tomorrow or at your convenience and I will throw in anal/cim at no extra charge.
- Sorry to cancel, can I offer you an hours booking charged at my half hour rate to make up for it. I'm available tomorrow and all week until 8pm.

If a girl did that when cancelling I believe she would redeem herself and convert a potential negative into a positive. The positive would obviously come when she goes through with her promise as the closest available convenience for the punter. I'm assuming the cancellations took place on the day of the punt or when the punter was on his way. Any cancellations made before the day may be subject to a different process although a good WG would still offer to compensate the cancellation with some kind of offer.

Its not so much cancelling that bothers me its if they don't cancel and switch there phone off is what is rude.

If they cancel at last minute it would not hurt to offer a discount or longer time next time then it makes it fairer.
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Offline DG

Never had a cancellation but have been kept waiting. Think it depends on the tyoe of escort. As my regular has a day job and family, sometimes she'll ask if we can put the punt back say 15 mins cos a family member has turned up etc. 10 - 15 minute delays don't bother me too much as I could be the one running late on another occasion.  As I understand her circumstances and how she operates, I accept this with her, particularly as she makes up for it with her enthusiasm. So long as cancellations are advised in plenty of time, that's fine. Different story if you've travelled and are waiting outside her flat and she texts you then, but these things do happen and it's an occupational hazard. Clearly if a WG makes a habit of it, move on to someone more reliable. As for compensation, I would find that difficult to bring up. If she offered I would probably decline it and hope she makes up for it in other ways. But no acknowledgement or apology would probably have me not going back.
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Offline smiths

It is open to debate whether a girl should get a negative review just because she cancelled ------------- it is however within the rules of this forum, on the other forum money has to change hands before a review can be submitted.

Admin has set the rules on here, a punter might well travel to a WGs area only for her to cancel or turn her phone off, he might of incurred a travel cost quite apart from having had his time wasted so in my view its good a review can be done.

On that other forum not only does or did money have to change hands letting some bad WGs off the hook but WGs and pimps can or could opt out of getting a review AT ALL by going on the no reports list, how is that helping punters avoid dodgy WGs, answer its not.

I usually tell the wg what time I am setting off on my journey and if she were to cancel after that time I would most likely leave a negative review on here. However I would still prefer a cancellation text at any time en route, rather than her simply switch her phone off, which would guarantee a negative report.

If she notified me before that time, I wouldn't leave neg fb, and some sort of offer on a future booking would most likely result in a rebook (and potential positive review).

All hypothetical so far, as none of the above has happend to me... YET!
« Last Edit: February 07, 2015, 05:10:39 PM by Silver Birch »

Offline SamLP

Ha! I was actually thinking of a similar thread last night.

Personally, I would never accept a discount, a free extension/free time or chargeable 'extras' at no cost.

But what I would accept is a simple apology and a seriously positive attitude during the subsequent meeting.

In most cases there wouldn't be a subsequent meeting if the actual cancellation wasn't met with a sincere apology and offer to prove that it was sincere.

Offline SamLP

Some good points and views. The point I initially made refers to someone who cancels a booking on the day and especially at the last minute. Those who switch their phones off or refuse to answer calls are simply lowlifes as Smiths puts it who deserve a negative.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Some good points and views. The point I initially made refers to someone who cancels a booking on the day and especially at the last minute. Those who switch their phones off or refuse to answer calls are simply lowlifes as Smiths puts it who deserve a negative.

A review on a girl you have not got round to meeting is as useful as a cup of cold piss --------------- it does make your review count look impressive though.      :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Offline Turtle Z

One of my regulars cancelled on me last Tuesday with the excuse that it was her time of the month. This was despite a previous discussion to the effect that I should book no later than Tuesday to avoid her period. These things happen occasionally. For instance another regular has cancelled on me only once in the seven years I've been seeing her, this was purely because her daughter was sick and didn't go into college. The other new regular though has now cancelled on me twice in two months with the same excuse and I now just view her as unreliable and won't be booking with her again. More so because there were no apologies or attempts to reschedule and make it up. I won't write a negative because I'm reasonable enough to know that theres a chance I could be wrong, but my punting instincts tell me that twice in two months for the same excuse is highly unlikely. My regulars are my regulars not just because they are good but  because they are also reliable and I'd even say, trustworthy. Not a word I'd use for the majority of the prossie population by there are some gems out there.

Offline SamLP

I personally don't believe any reasons from newbie WGs to me, what I do is compare other women I do business with outside punting who very rarely cancel appointments and ask myself why percentage wise WGs have so many last minute accidents and give other unprovable reasons to cancel in my experiences.

I also have a zero tolerance nowadays, if I get fucked about I post about it on here. I have heard every excuse going over the years and I daresay some are genuine, problem is I don't know which are and which aren't.

That's the point I'm making Smiths. If the excuse to cancel was accompanied with an apology and offer rather than a simple excuse would that be acceptable?

Any subsequent review would of course mention that a cancellation happened but an apology and offer was made rather than kept secret and hidden from the review.

Offline Turtle Z

A review on a girl you have not got round to meeting is as useful as a cup of cold piss --------------- it does make your review count look impressive though.      :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Not at all, if a prossie fucks punters about then that's information I'm interested in.

Offline SamLP

A review on a girl you have not got round to meeting is as useful as a cup of cold piss --------------- it does make your review count look impressive though.      :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I would rather read a review of a girl who had wasted a punters time giving me the insight that she could do the same to me so I could avoid her rather than go through the experience only to find out she has a reputation of time wasting but couldn't find out because nobody had written a review.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Not at all, if a prossie fucks punters about then that's information I'm interested in.

She may have let one punter down --------------------- where do you draw the line.     :unknown: :unknown: :unknown:

Not at all, if a prossie fucks punters about then that's information I'm interested in.

Agreed. If a pro$$ie has a number of good reviews and then a single negative for messing an appointment around, then I may still take a chance. However, if there is a pattern of unreliability forming, then these reviews become vitally important.

Offline smiths

A review on a girl you have not got round to meeting is as useful as a cup of cold piss --------------- it does make your review count look impressive though.      :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

More useful that you labelling ALL WGs who charge under £100 an hour as skanks which is proven to be total bollocks AND advising a WG to raise her prices BUT keep you on her old rate. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Not at all, if a prossie fucks punters about then that's information I'm interested in.

Plenty of punters book and don't turn up ------------------ I suppose that's OK.      :rolleyes:

Offline SamLP

Plenty of punters book and don't turn up ------------------ I suppose that's OK.      :rolleyes:

No it isn't ok, and forums like saafe often share info on those that are timewasters to warn other girls.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Agreed. If a pro$$ie has a number of good reviews and then a single negative for messing an appointment around, then I may still take a chance. However, if there is a pattern of unreliability forming, then these reviews become vitally important.

I would have at least 12 more reviews if I included the times I have been let down or I have "walked".

REAL reviews are what counts not Billybullshit reviews.       :hi:

Offline Turtle Z

She may have let one punter down --------------------- where do you draw the line.     :unknown: :unknown: :unknown:

She might have only rushed one punter out of the door and given him a shit time but where to draw the line is a  question for each individual punter. You can't establish patterns of behaviour based on one review but lets face it, one bad review on here is not very often wrong.  At least individuals can read about how she fucked another punter around and make an informed decision.

Offline Jimmyredcab

No it isn't ok, and forums like saafe often share info on those that are timewasters to warn other girls.

Most phone punts are totally anonymous, a new SIM can be bought for £1.        :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

Offline smiths

That's the point I'm making Smiths. If the excuse to cancel was accompanied with an apology and offer rather than a simple excuse would that be acceptable?

Any subsequent review would of course mention that a cancellation happened but an apology and offer was made rather than kept secret and hidden from the review.

An apology if I am at the punt or on my way is too late so not acceptable to me Sam if the WG is a newbie to me, if a regular I would give them the benefit of the doubt if its an isolated occurrence. ;)



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