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richie

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Good evening folks! I'm having issues and I need a bit of a critique please. Basically I can't seem to get any prossies to respond to my messages....

I'm starting to get a bit narked off with it now as its been an issue plaguing me for a few weeks, I've always used a standard message (or variation on it),  it's polite, to the point and always worked fine until now so what's gone wrong....

"Good afternoon Jemimapuddlefuck, I got your number off adult work and wanted to arrange a meet today. Is OWO and anal included in your 30 min appointments please? Thanks, Richie."

Obviously I insert whichever prossies name I want to see in there or Jemima would be a very worn out girl

Offline cueball

Have you got a link for jemimapuddlefuck?

Offline Turtle Z

OK, first... 'Good afternoon' is a bit weird, its not a business meeting you're trying to arrange and I had you pegged as weird after the first two words. Hi, will do just fine.

 'Jemimapuddlefuck'... whatever her name is, leave out the puddlefuck bit. If her name is Emmathreeholes, then omit the 'threeholes' bit, etc etc.

You can't go in with the questions about anal before you've made contact, you've got to establish yourself as reasonably normal at first contact, even if you aren't. Once you've made contact and she has provisionally accepted a meeting, it's at that point that you can subtly mention that you quite enjoy dialling 'O' on the brown telephone.

Offline tantric talents

Have you got a link for jemimapuddlefuck?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Nice one Cue.
I couldn't resist doing a search though and this hot Thai popped up! External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

Offline undercoverpunter

"Good afternoon Jemimapuddlefuck, I got your number off adult work and wanted to arrange a meet today. Is OWO and anal included in your 30 min appointments please? Thanks, Richie."

You could try the treat 'em mean routine.  Thus the above would loosely translated become:

Alright ya' money grabbing cumbucket.  I wont you to nosh me off, before I rubber up and pound you up the wrong 'un while you lets the neighbours know my name.  Is this included in your advertised rates?

Gagging to unload over your face,
Richie "6 figure bank balance" Rich

richie

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Have you got a link for jemimapuddlefuck?

Afraid not, it's just a generic prossie name for illustrative purposes although it is a bloody good one if I do say so myself!


Offline tantric talents

Sorry about the digression but I think Turtle is quite right.
Perhaps you shouldn't use a standard text for each message either. Really a lot depends upon whether the WG is independent or if Sergei is reading it! If she is an Indy then a pleasant personal touch always helps. Saying that I reckon that at least 50% of messages I send either don't get read,  get read and deleted, or the profile disappears after a week or so. Par for the course I think. Not worth losing sleep over.

fredpunter

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You could try the treat 'em mean routine.  Thus the above would loosely translated become:

Alright ya' money grabbing cumbucket.  I wont you to nosh me off, before I rubber up and pound you up the wrong 'un while you lets the neighbours know my name.  Is this included in your advertised rates?

Gagging to unload over your face,
Richie "6 figure bank balance" Rich

Don't forget to mention that your cock is huge and ensure that there is a photo of it on your profile. If necessary hold your stomach up with your hands so that the cock is clearly visible.

richie

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That's the generic message I send to touring or "managed" wg's if it's an English indy then I do tailor it a bit but there are zero indies anywhere near me at the mo, they all seem to have retired  :( the word thing is that it's always worked fine until the last couple of months....

So, time for a new approach I think. Less formal and less direct initially.... Lets shake the tree and see what drops out ;)

Thanks chaps

Offline Turtle Z



So, time for a new approach I think. Less formal and less direct initially.... Lets shake the tree and see what drops out ;)

Thanks chaps

Richie, are you by any chance an accountant?  :unknown:

Offline anyfucker

Don't forget to mention that your cock is huge and ensure that there is a photo of it on your profile. If necessary hold your stomach up with your hands so that the cock is clearly visible.
that's where i have been going wrong, i use my cock to hold my stomach up.

Sparquin

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I shall probably be condemned as fluffy for this but I would have started it by something more like " Hi XXXX I have been admiring your pictures for some time on AW and would very much like to see you, hopefully in the next day or so. Can you give me some idea as to whether this might work, please?" She should feel marginally flattered that you have been visiting her profile on countless occasions (probably wanking over it as well) and have eventually summoned up the nerve to contact her. 

Give it a shot. After she replies then you can ask her if she takes it up the dirtbox etc.

Offline Turtle Z

I shall probably be condemned as fluffy for this but I would have started it by something more like " Hi XXXX I have been admiring your pictures for some time on AW and would very much like to see you, hopefully in the next day or so. Can you give me some idea as to whether this might work, please?" She should feel marginally flattered that you have been visiting her profile on countless occasions (probably wanking over it as well) and have eventually summoned up the nerve to contact her. 

Give it a shot. After she replies then you can ask her if she takes it up the dirtbox etc.

A bit of opening and subtle flattery does no harm at all but don't over do it or you'll come across like a stalker.

Butter

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@Sparquin  :dance: That is exactly how it should be done.


Offline latecomer

I've had similar issues recently with WGs who read my message but totally ignore it.  Are they the same ones who bleat on Saafe about how quiet it is or how the market is absolutely saturated etc?  In general I phone a WG if they have their number showing, then I know if they can be bothered to meet me or not.  I'm mystified why these girls moan about having so little work but can't be bothered to even respond.  Fuck them - or rather, don't bother, find another one who actually wants to take your hard-earned cash off you.

richie

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Richie, are you by any chance an accountant?  :unknown:

If I were then I'd A) be able to afford more than one or two quick punts a month and B) find a way of making it tax deductible  :thumbsup:

Offline sushi

Good evening folks! I'm having issues and I need a bit of a critique please. Basically I can't seem to get any prossies to respond to my messages....

I'm starting to get a bit narked off with it now as its been an issue plaguing me for a few weeks, I've always used a standard message (or variation on it),  it's polite, to the point and always worked fine until now so what's gone wrong....

"Good afternoon Jemimapuddlefuck, I got your number off adult work and wanted to arrange a meet today. Is OWO and anal included in your 30 min appointments please? Thanks, Richie."

Obviously I insert whichever prossies name I want to see in there or Jemima would be a very worn out girl
Find a prossie displaying her phone number and call her. Prossies only contactable by email usually dont take short notice bookings.

Offline superchamp

My standard text is "Hi (name), are you available on (date/time) for one hour please? Thanks (my name). Note the use of the word 'please' and the fact that I don't mention fucking their arse or filling their mouth with cum. I've never not had a reply, even from some of the very busy well reviewed WG's on UKP. Keeping it simple obviously works for me.

richie

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Find a prossie displaying her phone number and call her. Prossies only contactable by email usually dont take short notice bookings.

That is text, I very rarely bother with AW/email only wg's now. Occasionally make the odd exception though.

Offline NelsonH

Girls don't like texts. Too much spam. They like to speak.

I just put:

"are you free at X on Y for 1hour please"

This is just a Y or N reply.

Ben4454

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The exact wording that you use will not change anything. This is a prossie site not a dating site. As long as you are polite and to the point there should be no reason she does not reply.

I recommend phoning them instead of E-mailing. Lets be honest.. prossies are rubbish at communications in general and respond to E-mails depending on their current mood when reading. If you find a profile with a number give her a ring and schedule the booking.

If the profile does not have a number then look at her recent feedback. If the feedback is from months ago then she probably does not meet anymore and turned into a webcammer but keeps the escort profile for the increased traffic.

What you can do also ask a regular to check your profile for malicious notes left by working girls. Some working girls leave bad notes for no reason. Just how it is.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2015, 09:35:19 pm by Ben4454 »

Offline Silver Birch

My standard text is "Hi (name), are you available on (date/time) for one hour please? Thanks (my name). Note the use of the word 'please' and the fact that I don't mention fucking their arse or filling their mouth with cum. I've never not had a reply, even from some of the very busy well reviewed WG's on UKP. Keeping it simple obviously works for me.

Pretty much same as my first contact email, possibly offering an alternative date/time, and I do have a good rate of reply. I can't match 100% but probably about 80%  :)

Opening contact on almost all my punts is via email, but I am usually booking at least a day in advance, often several days. I like to choose at leisure, rather than a frantic last minute horny panic, when I make poor choices.

Offline Turtle Z

That is text, I very rarely bother with AW/email only wg's now. Occasionally make the odd exception though.

Makes even more sense then. Many won't have credit on their phone and many are suspicious that you just want a text wank when there's sexual content in your text messages.

Offline SamLP

That's why I find a phone call works best. Most girls don't want to answer texts, and the EE girls probably find it difficult to reply. Most have a copy and paste reply for sending the address. If a call is unanswered I will look elsewhere or phone later, and I'm really interested in the girl I will usually write as an example: "Hi *Tina, I tried calling earlier but maybe you were busy. Are you available at 3pm?" If I get an affirmative reply I would reply: "Great, can I just confirm the price includes FK, OWO & protected sex?"

Offline Dani

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First email contact should really be short and sweet and not mention anal etc. It should be along the lines of
Hi xxx I am looking to book 30 minutes with you on xx dat and time. Are you available for this.

If she replies yes then you say ok I just want to confirm that OWO and Anal are included in the 30 minutes. Can you verify this please and I will then make a booking

Most girls upon opening an email reading you want x services will just ignore as most TW emails come across the same way. If her profile States she does/doesn't offer OWO and anal then she will assume you have not bothered to read her profile and just sent a template email to everyone in the area so again will ignore it

Just don't mention services jn the first point of contact and I'm sure you will get a lot more replies

mrhappypants

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Guys - and girls  - thank you.  This is both the funniest AND one of the most useful threads I have read on UKP.  For what is worth I always phone first and, if no reply, follow up with a brief text mentioning I called.  Two points (1) I am confident enough to call first (2) get the business bit "can we meet at this time" settled before discussing services. 

I will try some of the things learned here - thanks again.

Dave
« Last Edit: February 07, 2015, 06:42:42 am by mrhappypants »

Offline iPad3

I'm a bit surprised this thread has got as long as it has without the mention of AW notes. If the OP is being completely blanked by numerous girls I'd say it's likely that some vindictive bint had posted something nasty about him which is putting girls off. That said it maybe he's a looney and has been given bad feedback justifiably.

Hope that helps OP

richie

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I'm a bit surprised this thread has got as long as it has without the mention of AW notes. If the OP is being completely blanked by numerous girls I'd say it's likely that some vindictive bint had posted something nasty about him which is putting girls off. That said it maybe he's a looney and has been given bad feedback justifiably.

Hope that helps OP

I don't think I have an issue with notes, I rarely bother with the AW email system. Normally I just text. And I'm amazed it's rocked on as far as its second page too!

richie

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Guys - and girls  - thank you.  This is both the funniest AND one of the most useful threads I have read on UKP.  For what is worth I always phone first and, if no reply, follow up with a brief text mentioning I called.  Two points (1) I am confident enough to call first (2) get the business bit "can we meet at this time" settled before discussing services. 

I will try some of the things learned here - thanks again.

Dave

Dave, I normally do it the other way round. Text first then phone to confirm. I have very little private time so saves sneaking off etc.

Will try leaving the services out until after she confirms a time etc first.

Offline Turtle Z

I'm a bit surprised this thread has got as long as it has without the mention of AW notes. If the OP is being completely blanked by numerous girls I'd say it's likely that some vindictive bint had posted something nasty about him which is putting girls off. That said it maybe he's a looney and has been given bad feedback justifiably.

Hope that helps OP

Yes, but he was talking about mobile phone contact.

Offline CBPaul

I don't see anything wrong with putting 'good afternoon', anything that shows you are polite has got to help, especially since it is one of the things a prossie will be looking for.

Asking for anal first off may be your issue though, they probably advertise it but have no intention of ever taking it up the wrongun, plenty of profiles out there like that. Try asking if all services advertised are included and if there are any extras to start with.

Personally I only use emails to find which profiles are likely to lead to a meet when planning ahead. Otherwise it's text and phoning.

Online flybynightpm

AW emails are unreliable... if its a same day booking... I txt or ring depending on where I am... used to be shy about calling but not now..just ring em.. if their English is bad, then text.. I'd email if the booking was 5 to 7 days out and give them a chance to read it..if no reply within 2-3 days just ring.. Not wanting to sound too desperate!


mrhappypants

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One further observation, I generally find asking if there is "an extra charge" for something can be a slightly more reliable way of finding out if it actualy provided.

Dave

bensonhedges20

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I usually mention " everything on your likes list is fine but I would like to try........... " followed by would that be any issue. I always insert the time, date, length and if I have clothing preferences ( say I admire a photo) and lastly I ask for a contact number rather than email tennis.

Offline Turtle Z

One further observation, I generally find asking if there is "an extra charge" for something can be a slightly more reliable way of finding out if it actualy provided.

Dave

Though that could be construed as, 'I'm giving you the opportunity to take even more of my money for a service you already provide at no additional cost.'  Not something I'd do.

bensonhedges20

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First email contact should really be short and sweet and not mention anal etc. It should be along the lines of
Hi xxx I am looking to book 30 minutes with you on xx dat and time. Are you available for this.

If she replies yes then you say ok I just want to confirm that OWO and Anal are included in the 30 minutes. Can you verify this please and I will then make a booking

Most girls upon opening an email reading you want x services will just ignore as most TW emails come across the same way. If her profile States she does/doesn't offer OWO and anal then she will assume you have not bothered to read her profile and just sent a template email to everyone in the area so again will ignore it

Just don't mention services jn the first point of contact and I'm sure you will get a lot more replies

I have found that girls get too many messages so everything in one message works best. Also some girls can be mildly unorganised and would rather have everything in one message.

Sparquin

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If girls are getting too many messages then yours must stand out from the herd.Think of your first message as being like your CV, whose purpose is simply to get the interview rather than land you the job.

You want her to think (a) that you have chosen her especially from the hundreds out there (b) that you understand she may not be available just because you think she should be and (c) that you have some politeness.

richie

  • Guest
Well I gave it a go and changed tactic a bit Saturday with a more subtle approach to my text. Worked a charm given that it was one of the ladies I'd previously not got a reply from :) I didn't stay as long as I'd initially been planning when I started this thread so the question of A-levels never arose but I'll raise that one next time.

Here's the review...

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=48862.0