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Author Topic: Lurkers  (Read 1817 times)

Offline maxxblue

There have been quite a few posts recently referring to 'Lurkers', and the balance between their contributions to UKP and the benefits they glean from UKP.

I sometimes wonder why people 'lurk' rather than contribute to this site.

Is it because they are newbies who haven't yet been with a WG, but are planning to see a WG?

Is it because they are well-seasoned punters who are wanting 'freebie' tips without giving anything in return?

Or is it that they are pussies who have some kind of voyeuristic interest in punters, but don't have the nerve to punt themselves?

Or is there some other reason that 'lurkers' lurk?
« Last Edit: January 31, 2015, 11:18:10 PM by maxxblue »

Offline Qwerty

As I understand it, there are more lurkers than actual posters on here - look on the home page, and see how many members who have been on today, and how few of them have posted - plus 10 times as many guests who can't post.

British people are reluctant to speak up, in general, plus on here it's probably compounded by embarrassment/shame/fear of being discovered...

Offline maxxblue

...but that doesn't excuse people not contributing on UKP - what are the chances of being discovered contributing on this site?

password02

As I understand it, there are more lurkers than actual posters on here - look on the home page, and see how many members who have been on today, and how few of them have posted - plus 10 times as many guests who can't post.

British people are reluctant to speak up, in general, plus on here it's probably compounded by embarrassment/shame/fear of being discovered...

This could be the real reason I suspect -

Offline Qwerty

...but that doesn't excuse people not contributing on UKP - what are the chances of being discovered contributing on this site?

The chances may be low, but I should imagine people fear the consequences - very little scares an Englishman more than the idea of being caught doing something  embarrassing.

Plus there have been all kinds of threads on here alerting people to the possibility of inadvertently leaving electronic traces...

Offline Quesadilla

Bod666 actually made an interesting comment in another thread, that a portion of those 20k lurkers will actually be WG's checking on their own reviews.  Given that in theory there are supposed to be 80k WG's in the country I would be utterly fascinated to know what proportion of the 20k are WG's vs punters. Of course we will never know but it's an interesting thought.
Banning reason: Obnoxious and arrogant + Veiled threat of outing punter on UKE

I imagine that the 40-odd posts I've made in the 4 months I've been on here would probably mean I'm classed as a lurker. As I've commented elsewhere before I'm pretty inexperienced in the world of punting so I can't really contribute a great amount but will always try where I can. I must say that for someone learning the tricks of the trade this place is an invaluable source of information.

password02

I imagine that the 40-odd posts I've made in the 4 months I've been on here would probably mean I'm classed as a lurker. As I've commented elsewhere before I'm pretty inexperienced in the world of punting so I can't really contribute a great amount but will always try where I can. I must say that for someone learning the tricks of the trade this place is an invaluable source of information.

In my eyes you are NOT a Lurker but a member of UKP who at least contributes - My definition of a lurker is someone who reads all the comments and reviews and is NOT registered as a member on UKP but just 'Lurks' on the forum reading the reviews, seeing the girls and as they are not registered members do not POST anything on the forum

Offline cueball

There's no need to lurk, it's much more fun coming on and having your say. You're not gonna get bloody caught, it's all anonymous.

There have been quite a few posts recently referring to 'Lurkers', and the balance between their contributions to UKP and the benefits they glean from UKP.
IMO lurkers by definition do not add anything to UKP. They don't post or review so generally a fucking waste of space.

The question of what categories of lurkers there are. I have no interest unless they are mainly prossies and want to offer me a freebie, but to do this they would have to register and would then get banned for touting  :D

In my eyes you are NOT a Lurker but a member of UKP who at least contributes - My definition of a lurker is someone who reads all the comments and reviews and is NOT registered as a member on UKP but just 'Lurks' on the forum reading the reviews, seeing the girls and as they are not registered members do not POST anything on the forum
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I'm a lurker. I find myself reading this forum every time I get the horn to weigh up my options etc. I rarely post on topics I read unless I feel I've got something to add to the discussion.

password02

I'm a lurker. I find myself reading this forum every time I get the horn to weigh up my options etc. I rarely post on topics I read unless I feel I've got something to add to the discussion.

NO you are not a Lurker IMO as you are a registered member of UKP and contribute - My definition of a Lurker is what I said earlier -

In my eyes you are NOT a Lurker but a member of UKP who at least contributes - My definition of a lurker is someone who reads all the comments and reviews and is NOT registered as a member on UKP but just 'Lurks' on the forum reading the reviews, seeing the girls and as they are not registered members do not POST anything on the forum and give nothing back to the community here on UKP

Offline smiths

There have been quite a few posts recently referring to 'Lurkers', and the balance between their contributions to UKP and the benefits they glean from UKP.

I sometimes wonder why people 'lurk' rather than contribute to this site.

Is it because they are newbies who haven't yet been with a WG, but are planning to see a WG?

Is it because they are well-seasoned punters who are wanting 'freebie' tips without giving anything in return?

Or is it that they are pussies who have some kind of voyeuristic interest in punters, but don't have the nerve to punt themselves?

Or is there some other reason that 'lurkers' lurk?

Some have posted possible reasons, i have a punter mate who isnt a member on here and is not interested in joining, its just of no interest to him to post but he reads what can be read without joining on ocassion. Unlike some i havent a problem with lurkers, hopefully those that are genuine punters will become members at some stage.

I want to help genuine punters so them being able to see who are bad WGs and good is for me a positive thing whether they lurk or not.

I imagine among those lurkers are an increasing number of pimps and low lifes as well as WGs, after all this in now THE premier punting site in the UK. It is of course up to admin to decide what happens in future, i leave it to him.

Offline Ongbak

I don't really see why people are complaining about lurkers. These are public forums, if people want to lurk they can, it doesn't affect anyone else if they do. If someone has something to say then I'm sure they'll sign up and post if it hasn't already been covered, they're not obliged to do anything. Personally, I think it's down to the way these forums are seen by non-posters. Quite frequently I see people being cunts to each other, people taking things too seriously and low post people get shot down by the ''elite power posters'' for the most petty of reasons, maybe some people are slightly intimidated by signing up thinking they'll have a pitchfork mob after then.


British people are reluctant to speak up, in general, plus on here it's probably compounded by embarrassment/shame/fear of being discovered...

.... or the fear of being interrogated and then torn to shreds by some of the ferocious rottweilers on here  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Offline NelsonH

Every simliar forum, no matter what the purpose, has similar "lurker" and "silent majority" statistics.
Its not to do with punting or the risk of being discovered.

Often people who post get a hard time from "regulars". Every time one of the timid silent majority sees this they are put off posting themselves.

It's probably a bit too rough on here for many people.

Offline cueball

Quite frequently I see people being cunts to each other, people taking things too seriously and low post people get shot down by the ''elite power posters'' for the most petty of reasons, maybe some people are slightly intimidated by signing up thinking they'll have a pitchfork mob after then.

I can see that point, you do see a lot of bollocks posted at times and every forum has key board warriors and "elite power posters" but that shouldn't put anybody off after all it doesn't matter whether you've 20 posts or 20 thousand posts, if you're talking shit you're talking shit.

Offline Gourcuff

Every forum has lurkers, and there are lots of reasons.

Look at a YouTube video which has a million views, it might only have 1,000 comments. Not everyone is an egotistical cunt.

Offline Gourcuff

I actually had someone with no posts send me a prvt message in response to a thread I'd started about Asians, asking me for more info on local parlours! Which was a bit odd and made me think COPS! Why couldn't they reply in the thread?

Offline BeesKnees

Every forum has lurkers, and there are lots of reasons.

Look at a YouTube video which has a million views, it might only have 1,000 comments. Not everyone is an egotistical cunt.

I wouldn't go as far as calling contributors egotistical cunts, but you're right.

Everyone on the board were probably lurkers at one point. It's a public board and this is the fucking internet, where anyone can visit the site. It's part and parcel of having a public discussion board

Online Jimmyredcab

Every forum has lurkers, and there are lots of reasons.


True ----------------- but many forums do not allow full access until you register.     :hi:

Offline Quesadilla

I wouldn't go as far as calling contributors egotistical cunts, but you're right.

Everyone on the board were probably lurkers at one point. It's a public board and this is the fucking internet, where anyone can visit the site. It's part and parcel of having a public discussion board
Not me - never lurked. Came here looking for somewhere to post a negative comment when I realised I'd been b&s'd on AW and had not actually had a confirmed AW booking so couldn't leave fb there.  Did a google search, UKP came up and I joined and posted my first review the same day.  :hi:

As to the argument that "it's a public board / it's the internet" that doesn't really wash.  There are already areas of this forum that are not in fact public and you have to sign up to view. 

The difference between most other public forums and this one is that the silent majority can and clearly do significantly affect the availability of the best punts for the rest of us.  I suppose it's no different to Tripadvisor where the best hotels get booked up probably by lurkers who never bother to post their own reviews.  I accept it, but I don't have to like it. :unknown:
Banning reason: Obnoxious and arrogant + Veiled threat of outing punter on UKE

Offline StevenS

I suppose it's no different to Tripadvisor where the best hotels get booked up probably by lurkers who never bother to post their own reviews.  I accept it, but I don't have to like it. :unknown:

You don't have to like it, but you'll consider doing it  :dash:

I have to agree with you PW.  Having seen what happens to really good WG's like Little Katie and Adele4U when their popularity gets out of control I will certainly in future keep any gems a secret except via PM - at least until I started to get a bit bored with them myself.

Unless you're going to PM every single member who has a review to their name?
« Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 11:36:50 AM by StevenS »

Offline BeesKnees

Well good for you pal, you're a model member of the board.

I did say probably, which implies not 100% of members lurked before joining.


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