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Author Topic: C4 Programme on Paradise, Stuttgart 29/1/15  (Read 4423 times)

Online Jerboa

As always Jerboa, I bow to your expertise! Definitely the beginnings of a PuntingWiki chapter I feel?  :hi:

Yes I suppose I could do a wiki on Germany, when I have some spare time, I wouldn't say I'm a expert, but it might help others.

Offline Quesadilla

Yes I suppose I could do a wiki on Germany, when I have some spare time, I wouldn't say I'm a expert, but it might help others.
You are too modest Jerboa! You definitely have some valuable expertise here!  :hi:
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Offline d00fer

Would be happy to help out, but I doubt there's anything I could add that Jerboa doesn't already know.

Offline Quesadilla

Would be happy to help out, but I doubt there's anything I could add that Jerboa doesn't already know.
I don't think you should underestimate your experience d00fer!  Found your posts very useful as well.
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Offline Vivago

The blonde Josie is a typical cute German girl, I have met a few like her, they can be a good punt. It's €50 for 30mins, same in most clubs.

Didn't she have a cracking big Fraulein arse? Couldn't believe her estimate that she had serviced 15,000 men. Hell, she must be exaggerating. She hardly looked much out of her teens. If she had 20 men a day it would take over 2 years to reach that total. And that is working flat-out (pun intended). :lol:


Offline fredpunter

Didn't she have a cracking big Fraulein arse? Couldn't believe her estimate that she had serviced 15,000 men. Hell, she must be exaggerating. She hardly looked much out of her teens. If she had 20 men a day it would take over 2 years to reach that total. And that is working flat-out (pun intended). :lol:

Another thing the program didn't highlight whilst busily wringing its hands in anguish at their plight was that 15000 x 50 euros is a shed load of money she's earned.

Online Markus

which app? Link?

It was the C4 app. Surprise, surprise it's gone already yet they are still allowing you to catch up on TimeSigns from 1991  :D

Online Markus

Didn't she have a cracking big Fraulein arse? Couldn't believe her estimate that she had serviced 15,000 men. Hell, she must be exaggerating. She hardly looked much out of her teens. If she had 20 men a day it would take over 2 years to reach that total. And that is working flat-out (pun intended). :lol:

That Josie was incredibly cute. Had a cracking pair of tits. I know this has probably been covered before but I am guessing all FKK clubs do Oral with?

Offline d00fer

That Josie was incredibly cute. Had a cracking pair of tits. I know this has probably been covered before but I am guessing all FKK clubs do Oral with?

Nope, I've always had OWO even when I've gone with the basic 50 euros service

Offline Vivago

Nope, I've always had OWO even when I've gone with the basic 50 euros service

Yes, me too. I would say that OW would be the exception rather than the rule particularly in view of the fact that most girls want to upsell you to the CIM option which is (ker-ching) an extra 25 or 50 euros for them.

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I need to make any sort of excuse to get myself to Germany.

Thanks for the heads up.

Offline Mr Br1ghts1de

Nope, I've always had OWO even when I've gone with the basic 50 euros service
+1.

Online Jerboa

Didn't she have a cracking big Fraulein arse? Couldn't believe her estimate that she had serviced 15,000 men. Hell, she must be exaggerating. She hardly looked much out of her teens. If she had 20 men a day it would take over 2 years to reach that total. And that is working flat-out (pun intended). :lol:

Yes It did sound a lot, but she did say she'd worked there four years, if she's worked everyday for four years, 10x punters a day, that comes out at around 15,000!

Another thing the program didn't highlight whilst busily wringing its hands in anguish at their plight was that 15000 x 50 euros is a shed load of money she's earned.

Yes a nice little earner, €750,000 not including extras.  :)

That Josie was incredibly cute. Had a cracking pair of tits. I know this has probably been covered before but I am guessing all FKK clubs do Oral with?

The guys are correct, OWO or as the Germans call it Französisch ohne (FO) is standard in most clubs, the girls aren't meant to charge extra for it, only the Catholic repressed southern state of Bayern is FO illegal.
I take it you've read the trip reports on here, if you're thinking of a trip, take a read at the ISG board too.

Offline Macca74

You should all definitely try the FKK clubs. They're safe, controlled, have fixed prices and amazing women. Even if you pay €70 or €80 to get in to a club, you have food and soft drinks for the whole day. Most guys on this forum would be able to look after themselves. Try Artemis in Berlin,  or Oase, Palace, Sharks or Mainhattan in Frankfurt. They're all great clubs.

Offline Mr Br1ghts1de

Hmm...maybe some of you guys with local knowledge / experience could help put together a quick idiot's guide to the etiquette perils and pitfalls of these places?  Would be good to have in the PuntingWiki maybe?

I'm afraid my local knowledge only extends to Samya and the review link I posted here for now.

I have booked a couple more trips to Germany this year though and have been studying Jerboa's excellent map (link below - believe this is the latest version he has posted) for inspiration.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=51.055207,8.239746&msa=0&spn=3.805122,9.876709&mid=zu1tlMSEJdqg.k0SGrwPGa4hA

I will gladly post more on my future visits.
 

Offline Quesadilla

I'm afraid my local knowledge only extends to Samya and the review link I posted here for now.

I have booked a couple more trips to Germany this year though and have been studying Jerboa's excellent map (link below - believe this is the latest version he has posted) for inspiration.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=51.055207,8.239746&msa=0&spn=3.805122,9.876709&mid=zu1tlMSEJdqg.k0SGrwPGa4hA

I will gladly post more on my future visits.

Wow! Somehow missed that map - that is awesome, and now bookmarked! :)
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Offline Mr Br1ghts1de

Wow! Somehow missed that map - that is awesome, and now bookmarked! :)

It certainly is. Big hats off to Jerboa  :hi: for his fantastic research and sharing of info.

Offline kingkong

Only just watched this today. The manager who said if a girl messages him with a Romanian e-mail address, she gets deleted! made me laugh a bit.
The blonde girl who when asked how many punters she had been with, she replied over 15000 men. She was only young....makes you think how many some of our prossies have been with and what some of them have done with the wonga.

Online Jerboa

It certainly is. Big hats off to Jerboa  :hi: for his fantastic research and sharing of info.

Yes that map I first began a few years ago when I first researched German punting, I did it mainly so I could see the various locations on a map, and work out where I would visit, I do need to update it, as clubs have come and others have gone.
Another map I made was Swinger clubs of Europe, It shows many clubs that also organise sex parties.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zu1tlMSEJdqg.kDMX9Yn-qvdw

Offline Marmalade

I've never been to 'Paradise' but Stuttgart is quite a nice town to visit if you have reason to. Not as well appointed as the bigger cities, but plenty of pussy right in the centre (or for FKs, as is usually the case, you mostly have to travel out a little bit.) The south of Germany is much more laid back than the north. Prices in the shops are quite cheap compared to the UK. Excellent transport facilities etc. I suppose it is mostly the ratio of flight price vs amount of facilities that tends people towards the bigger hubs.

If you are stuck in Switzerland (gold-plated credit-card pussyland) and need to exercise your dong without having to mortgage your house, there's excellent trains that run to Stuttgart.

Offline Marmalade

I've never been to 'Paradise' but Stuttgart is quite a nice town to visit if you have reason to. Not as well appointed as the bigger cities, but plenty of pussy right in the centre (or for FKs, as is usually the case, you mostly have to travel out a little bit.) The south of Germany is much more laid back than the north. Prices in the shops are quite cheap compared to the UK. Excellent transport facilities etc. I suppose it is mostly the ratio of flight price vs amount of facilities that tends people towards the bigger hubs.

If you are stuck in Switzerland (gold-plated credit-card pussyland) and need to exercise your dong without having to mortgage your house, there's excellent trains that run to Stuttgart.

I maybe have to correct myself, sorry. I was trying to recall the name of the FKK I visited in Echterdingen, which is a southern suburb of Frankfurt and I think may indeed have been "Paradise." I def went to Sakura, another FKK in the vicinity and reviewed it. I think I preferred it to Paradise.

A bit like an enormous spa. The reception is a bit like a 5 star hotel. The atmosphere is that they treat you as if you are loaded for coming to the joint, posh in other words. But at least you do get the feeling that everything is completely above board. Tour available (the place is enormous). Various areas for shagging or just relaxing without getting hassled. The girls wandering around stark bollock naked mostly. They don't hassle unless you make eye contact but if you do there is the typical German lack of subtlety. There is no natural chit-chat as far as I was concerned: they are in competition to nab as much prey as possible. Food (fairly good quality) is rolled out at intervals.

Lookswise most of the women are ok, some very nice looking. But at these prices and razzamatazz I would really like much, much more than ok. The nudity is not particularly sensual to my mind. They wander around a bit like people on a regular nudist beach without much eroticism. I rather felt that personalities had been left at the door when they clocked on for work. (I'm not denying that if you are more used to German culture and can speak German naturally, you could probably dig much deeper.)

I eventually picked what seemed the least worst bet. Having got there and gone through such a rigmaorole, leaving without a shag would be pretty pointless. It was ok, nothing special. I think she had a buzzer or something to say when the time was up, and it was concluded with crisp German politeness. At the desk on the way out they checked that everything was ok. Left and jumped the S-train to Hauptbahnhof (central station) to chance my luck among the more "free range" cheap-as-chips Eros joints.

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I know that FKK fans will pour scorn on Eros clubs, that's their choice. I am not so much disillusioned about the cash as the amount of time involved in pissing about (getting there, going through all the niceties). OK value if you like the style and maybe want to stay there all day, enjoying the fanny and the food. I personally found them a bit boring and the attitude of the girls within too narrow a range (little element of "discovery"). For Eros centres you can just roll in, for instance Stuttgart has a fucking enormous one, you can almost get lost there on all the floors (dozens of rooms, each with a different girl in the doorway) nip in before elevenses then do another couple after lunch, all within walking distance of pubs, restaurants, tourist attractions, and the cost is barely noticeable.

Curious6705

Watched this programme last night. I think the narration could have been written by a FemiNazi, and oh the irony of a programme which claims punters and FKK owners are exploiting WGs, but which exploits them for its own ends - showing wall to wall tits and bums and devoting much of its time to showing a naked WG talking to camera.

Bottom line IMO is C4 shooting for maximum sensationalism and calculating they will always pull in an audience and advertisers by showing hot women naked and talking about sex. And I wonder how many new punters they have recruited? Quite funny and ironic that they also showed naked protesting feminists - and did you see the camera angles as the director ogled the cute young feminists writing out placards?

At €1.35 to the £, IMO this programme will result in a lot of would be new punters scheming to get themselves over to Germany.  :D
« Last Edit: February 07, 2015, 09:42:43 AM by Curious6705 »


Also if someone happens to meet the daughter in London, please get her number. I am sure there will be a way to convince her for  at least one session. She was fucking hot.




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