EnglishRose2k15 / FoxxyRoxii84 / MissEnglishRock - THIEF!

[GentleJo84]

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DO NOT MEET THIS WOMAN

She is a thief!

Here's the story. She bid on one of my reverse bookings in December. Then when I emailed to arrange she said that she couldn't do it any more as she had another booking that day. We rearranged for a different day.

It was an outcall overnight to a hotel. She was prepared to travel a long way to see me (for reasons that become very clear). She was based in Colchester at the time of writing.

There was good communication and she spoke well on the phone - clearly educated to some level.

Anyway, she got to my hotel and arrived at my room looking quite nice. Dumped her bag and asked for the money. I gave it to her and she said that she needed to pay her driver and would be back and was leaving her bag and phone in the room. Anyway, I watched from my window as she ran into her boyfriends car, called Frenchie btw, and then sped off.

Five minutes later she text to say she was just coming back up. Obviously she didn't. Her phone was then turned off. Later after I told her I had the registration plate of her boyfriends car, she said she had to go do something and would be 20 minutes and would give me £100 back for the hassle. She didn't come back. That's the last I heard from her.

I tried sending her an email, but it automatically gets deleted - assume that means that she's blocked me. She's also not answering texts or calls.

I know I was stupid for handing over the cash - won't be doing that again. Just too trusting I guess in this game.

Anyway, I've gone to the police and reported it. There's CCTV at the hotel and the receptionist remembers seeing her running in and out and with the registration plate should be able to catch her. Not too bothered who knows what I do - I'm quite open about it with my friends and I work far away so its not an issue. I guess that's the risk the girls take who pull this trick, but for me I don't care. She is now going to get outed as a WG which is enough revenge for me if I don't get my belongings back.

On AW it says she's touring Portsmouth next week so beware!

Oh, and on dress size, based on the clothing she left behind she's a size 12. Her waist is nothing like her picture. She is good looking though.

I hope people heed my warning but up to you.

PS: Actually, although I say do not meet this woman. If anyone does after this, can they ask for my money back please?

[socks]

Bloody hell that's fucked mate! Sorry to hear it. Did she not leave her phone in the room in the end? Keep us informed re what the police do.

I just noticed her AW feedback includes Hendrix who might be the same respected Hendrix as on here? Maybe he can offer some insight and advice? I'll PM him so he knows about the thread. Was yours the feedback left on 13 Dec 2014 on her profile? The FR doesn't show up when I searched but I noticed she had a couple of other negs.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Well done for going to the the old Bill, that takes some doing in itself.


But I won't rub in the bit about giving the girl the cash up front and letting her give it to her "driver".

I suppose you could always say "why dearie that's a lot of money, surely you'd like me to escort you to your car or driver in case you get mugged on the way";!.

Its understandable them taking the cash on an in call to their mate or minder in another room but in a hotel always very dubious.


Sorry you do have my sympathies and there are still honest trusting people like you out there, who are abused by people like her:-(.

[Rock123]

Sorry I am a bit confused. You say she was leaving her bag and phone in the room and later you said you tried to contact her.

So did she leave her belongings there?

[Neal69]

Why Is my bullshit detector going off

Like Rock I am confused by the bit about the phone being left in the room.

I hope I am wrong.

If the OP is genuine its a shame as I had Roxi on my hotlist.

[CBPaul]

Sorry I am a bit confused. You say she was leaving her bag and phone in the room and later you said you tried to contact her.

So did she leave her belongings there?

You're not the only one who is confused, I thought exactly the same.

On the other hand I have read a story somewhere about a prossie turning up, leaving the bag in the hotel room to create the impression of reliability and then pulling the taking money to driver trick. The bag turned out to be full of utter crap, old clothes from a recycle bin or something.

The phone bit doesn't make sense though.

[whiterussian]

yep a bit whiffy this one.
how much were you ripped off by op?

[GentleJo84]

Hey

Thanks guys for you support guys - I know I was stupid...

I should clear some things up for you. Yeah, I could've made it clearer...

She left her bag and said her phone was in it. She stressed several times that if the phone rings do not answer it. Anyway, after seeing her run from the hotel into her friends white sports car and drive off I thought something a bit wrong.... So I text her to find out where she was. After seeing her drive off, I figured the phone probably wasn't in the bag. She replied 'jus coming bac in now'. Obviously she didn't leave her phone in her bag. It was just a ruse i.e. I'm leaving something valuable with you so I'm definitely coming back.

Afterwards tried calling but went straight to voicemail. An hour later she text to say that she had to go do something and that she would be 20 mins and would give me £100 for the hassle. That's the last I heard from her. She didn't come back.

Likely blocked me on AW as I sent her an email but as immediately deleted.

All that was in the bag was a skirt, dress, bikini, leggings and knickers. Not really worth an overnight fee!

She was in the hotel room barely 30 seconds.

I know I was stupid. Won't be making that mistake again.

No, I wasn't the one that left her feedback or a FR before.

Let me know if Hendrix has any insight on her and this negative feedback FR??

Meeting the police tomorrow night to give a statement. Gave her today to see if she would give me the money back but she's ignored me.

No BS here, that's how it happened. If you want to see someone capable of that then that's up to you. I have the text history on my phone if anyone wants 'proof'.

[NelsonH]

And what "belongings" did younot get back?

[The happy one]

To me it is simple

Do another profile on adultwork

Email and book her on that one for an incall

A new through away sim

Then just go and visit her and front it out

Don't leave your car where she can get the number plate

When you knock on the door have your phone set to record so there can be no false claims made by her after

[Simon S]

To me it is simple

Do another profile on adultwork

Email and book her on that one for an incall

A new through away sim

Then just go and visit her and front it out

Don't leave your car where she can get the number plate

When you knock on the door have your phone set to record so there can be no false claims made by her after

Just let the Police deal with it, if you start taking the law into your own hands you are risking some serious situations. HEr bf/pimp could be there, she could accuse you of stalking. It's just not worth it.

[whiterussian]

how much did you pay ?

[GentleJo84]

Note that she has changed her profile name to MissEnglishRock.

[GentleJo84]

Later on January 20 she changed her profile name again. Now she is called:  EnglishRose2k15

I have also found out that she maybe in and around the Croydon area.

She has also changed her number as she sold her last phone on Gumtree. I have spoken with the new owner of the phone and they have nothing to do with her. But they are worried the phone may be stolen. She was driving a blue car this time.

She said her name was Ellie and that she lives local. At the time she was in Norbury (Croydon).

I am not going to take there law into my own hands. Haven't got the balls to do that! I do want some revenge though. If only I knew some vigilante - only joking.  It's not about the money. Its more about being a victim I guess. I know I won't see they money again. Just hope the police do there job!

At least I got her at a discount and didnt lose her stated overnight rate. Can't believe how many extras she has!

[GentleJo84]

Roxxi/Ellie or whatever her name is has posted a statement on her profile allegedly trying to clear things up. I don't know if it is, but if this is aimed at my 'altercation' then let me respond.

There was no altercation. She stole my cash and ran off.

Contacting her. I cannot contact her. My AW emails are automatically deleted without being read. She has sold her phone on Gumtree so cannot call her.

Comment removed. I have not left her feedback on AW. I have not removed any comment of hers from anywhere.

Lies. I would be happy to prove my story. I have the text message history on my phone, date stamped when the incident took place which confirms the details. They also show the same number and details of the sale of her phone on Monday. Happy to share these with you.

Contact. I have not desperately been trying to contact her as it is now very difficult unless I was to create a new profile. She has my number still, and my email to get in contact with me. But as you will see from the text history, she largely ignored you. I would love to speak with her and clear this up and get my money back.

Believe me. Believe her. It's up too you. All I can do is feedback what happened and try to warm people of dodgy people. Why don't you all ask why she has made it impossible for me to contact her but she won't contact me to allegedly clear up the altercation? Seems a simple solution?

[englandfan]

Roxxi/Ellie or whatever her name is has posted a statement on her profile allegedly trying to clear things up. I don't know if it is, but if this is aimed at my 'altercation' then let me respond.

There was no altercation. She stole my cash and ran off.

Contacting her. I cannot contact her. My AW emails are automatically deleted without being read. She has sold her phone on Gumtree so cannot call her.

Comment removed. I have not left her feedback on AW. I have not removed any comment of hers from anywhere.

Lies. I would be happy to prove my story. I have the text message history on my phone, date stamped when the incident took place which confirms the details. They also show the same number and details of the sale of her phone on Monday. Happy to share these with you.

Contact. I have not desperately been trying to contact her as it is now very difficult unless I was to create a new profile. She has my number still, and my email to get in contact with me. But as you will see from the text history, she largely ignored you. I would love to speak with her and clear this up and get my money back.

Believe me. Believe her. It's up too you. All I can do is feedback what happened and try to warm people of dodgy people. Why don't you all ask why she has made it impossible for me to contact her but she won't contact me to allegedly clear up the altercation? Seems a simple solution?

I'd say the fact she has changed her profile name twice in 2 days, is enough proof for me that she's dodgy

lucky escape as i was planning on seeing her

will now avoid like the plague,............as should we all (IMHO)

[socks]

Her new tab is an appalling effort at trying to shift the blame. The type of no substance shite that you might hear from children who've fallen out on a playground. GentleJo84 what happened when you went to the police and you've not answered a couple of requests to know how much she took from you. I think I read that her o.n. rate is £850 but you'd negotiated less than that?

[norfolk tiger]

Profile has now gone,know doubt will resurface with a new one.

[GentleJo84]

Apologies.

Her advertised rate for an overnight is £850.

I placed a reverse booking for an overnight in Croydon for £300. Have had some successful overnights at this price point in the past. Red light should have hit when she bid as it significantly below her rate. It was my first reverse booking so was perhaps a bit naive. Yeah, so gave her £300. Not as bad as it couldve been.

Regarding the police, saw them on Saturday. Officer said to try and contact her to get cash back first before going down official route. I did but she didn't respond and then I pestered somer nnocent person who had just bought the phone from her. They confirmed the description of the phone seller.

Went back Monday evening to make formal statement. They said they would look at CCTV and talk to hotel witness. Not had any further update yet. Will keep you guys informed.

[GentleJo84]

Profile has now gone,know doubt will resurface with a new one.

Says it all really

[socks]

It does indeed. If I'd got an RB of £300 for an overnighter i'd have been all over it like a rash! Your cautionary tale is a proper wake up call. I'd still go ahead of course but wouldn't let her leave so early with my cash!

[GentleJo84]

I will keep an eye out to see if she resurfaces. Shouldnt be too hard to spot.

I don't think she is retiring. Her profile was saying 'available' all week and she had been updating the text and photos (with what looked like a copied photo of legs).

[The happy one]

There is something I don't understand

Why has she sold her phone

All she needed to do was throw her sim away and put a new one in

She has not sold her phone she has given her SIM card away at best

Being a nasty rip off bitch I would now believe that she had sold it

Given it to a friend maybe

But when I sell my phone I do not sell my number the number stays with me

I think someone is lying there

[Nicholas]

There is something I don't understand

Why has she sold her phone

All she needed to do was throw her sim away and put a new one in

She has not sold her phone she has given her SIM card away at best

Being a nasty rip off bitch I would now believe that she had sold it

Given it to a friend maybe

But when I sell my phone I do not sell my number the number stays with me

I think someone is lying there

The most important part of a phone isn't the SIM card but IMEI number.

Everytime you use your phone, you are also transmitting the IMEI number of the phone. The IMEI number is very unique to every single mobile phone. Mobile phone operators can block and completely lock a phone rendering it useless when a phone gets reported stolen.

She has sold her phone, so no doubt she will now file a police report and say her phone was stolen, then phone up her mobile phone network provider who will look up her number and see the IMEI number of the phone and block it. She can then call up her insurer, say her phone was lost and get a free phone + whatever cash she sold it for. The person who bought her phone has now lost money and has a dud phone.

[GentleJo84]

Bloody hell! If she does that she truly is a nasty piece of work! She sold it on Gumtree so I assume there is a record of the transaction (?) So would have a hard job proving it was stolen from her? I was surprised she sold it. Maybe she bought it just for the meet.

Unless I was duped (again) I spoke with the new owner and I believe their story. They were annoyed that the phone could be potentially stolen. Didn't occur to me that she could also do that.

[The happy one]

So the new owner is worried about it being stolen not that she is getting loads of calls for a whore

[Nicholas]

Bloody hell! If she does that she truly is a nasty piece of work! She sold it on Gumtree so I assume there is a record of the transaction (?) So would have a hard job proving it was stolen from her? I was surprised she sold it. Maybe she bought it just for the meet.

Unless I was duped (again) I spoke with the new owner and I believe their story. They were annoyed that the phone could be potentially stolen. Didn't occur to me that she could also do that.

It's strange since eBay owns Gumtree, but Gumtree has a notoriously bad reputation for scams and dodgy goods. eBay offers much better protection for customers but Gumtree is like the wild west.

What kind of phone was it? Samsung Galaxy? iPhone?

If it's an expensive phone, I can understand why the seller is worried.