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west8

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Friday 9th January. Samedaydoctor, 14 Wimpole Street, W1G 9SX


A recent thread on this forum was about picking up a civvy and taking her home for the night for sex.

Given the level of interest shown in the issues surrounding what constitutes safe sex, I'm interested in the reasons why it's deemed 'acceptable' to have sex with a random civvy who might have done the same thing week in, week out for months or years. He/she might also have a boyfriend or even be married. A civvy is a FAR greater risk when it comes to contracting an STI than a WG. Yes, WGs meet dozens of men on a reglar basis and often indulge in services which involve the intimate exchange of bodily fluids.

But so do many civvy girls. In fact, it's far more likely than a drunk civvy girl will offer a LOT more than a gentleman caller can expect from a WG.

The key difference is that any professional WG will take an STI weekly or bi-weekly. For example, how many of you know that nurses visit the WGs in certain WG buildings in London every week?

Whereas a civvy girl will almost certainly be tested FAR less frequently.

That being the case, any sexual infection would ALWAYS be detected in a WG far faster than it would in a civvy girl.

Offline IAMBATMAN

i completely agree i think your far more likely to contract something from a civi than a WG and as far as a know nurses come out to most parlours in manchester too

your much more likely to have unprotected sex with a civi girl too, i know a lad whos shagged his way through half my town an never uses anything an hes had clap a few time even twice in the space of a month or so. he told me once he had scabs on his dick but he fucked some bird an she gave him a blowy with the scabs on his dick this to me says that the civi women are less conscious of safety or just dont give a shit, i dont know a decent WG who would do that do you.

12/12/14 last test

Offline IAMBATMAN

i should probably add that he was also a semi regular punter an never caught anything from punting

west8

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Indeed. On just about each and every occasion I have had a one night stand with a non-WG, no mention has been made of the need for a condom by the lady concerned.

I have always insisted - only to be met on occasion with indifference!

Offline IAMBATMAN

same here but i dont usually were anything with a one night stand even tho i myself think its more dangerous than a WG and only once have i ever been asked/made to rubber up an ended up seeing her for over two years, civi grils are skanks man but guys are just as bad i suppose

figleaf

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I actually think that civvy girls are worse than guys for not using protection.  I don't have a large sample but over half didn't seem to give a shit and a few actively asked me not to bother.  They were also all quite sensible and respectable on the outside.  Madness!!

Offline IAMBATMAN

i can understand forgeting in the heat of the drunken moment but to actually ask you not to that IS madness my friend, does nobody give a shit anymore lol

west8

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I actually think that civvy girls are worse than guys for not using protection.  I don't have a large sample but over half didn't seem to give a shit and a few actively asked me not to bother.  They were also all quite sensible and respectable on the outside.  Madness!!

Yes, they are. I'm not sure whether ignorance or the suspension of belief is the reason who so many punters seem to think that a WG is a greater sexual health risk than a non-WG.

On the contrary, WGs are almost universally the safest sexual partners.

Offline IAMBATMAN

Yes, they are. I'm not sure whether ignorance or the suspension of belief is the reason who so many punters seem to think that a WG is a greater sexual health risk than a non-WG.

On the contrary, WGs are almost universally the safest sexual partners.

right on the money there pal

Offline LanceVance

My last test was actually Last Wednesday. I am still waiting for the results, but I have no symptoms.

LL

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Date of last sexual health screening: 17th December
Date of last unprotected intercourse with drug-taking prostitute: n/a

The second one is important (so perhaps West8 should answer it too) since a recent sexual health screening is not enough on its own. HIV can take 3 months to show up in tests as I'm sure they would have told him at the clinic.

Offline smiths

In reality punters are fucking virtual or complete strangers so they have NO definite proof of what the WG has been doing and with whom. Do WGs get tested more than non-WGs, its not provable they do to my satisfaction so i discard the unprovable and do the best i can do, punt on a risk to reward basis getting checked at the GUM.

A civvie could be infected just as a WG could obviously but unless they are village bikes its unlikely they would of fucked as many guys as a WG does. They might of though in some cases which is why always using a condom is the wise thing to do. I choose OWO over OW as the reward outweighs the risk for ME but BB penetration doesnt.

The exact risk i am taking with each WG i dont know as i dont know the WG well enough to know and even if i did she could be a good liar just like a civvie could be. As i always say punting isnt for the squeamish.

One last point a certificate a WG might show you to prove she isnt infected is only valid up until she had the tests done (at best), she COULD of been infected the day after she got tested for all anyone would know, she might not even know at that stage but COULD still infect the punter who is trusting her. For ME trust and punting arent good bedfellows and its not a smart way of punting to trust a WGs unprovable word in my opinion.

Offline Swsnapper

What does the test involve guys? I've not yet commenced punting (albeit since around seventeen years ago) but don't fancy the idea of a cotton swab shoved down my japs eye by a stranger.

Is that what they do as well as a visual??

I should add I have been careful when having sex with anyone outside my long term relationship so felt no need to get tested.

Offline StevenS

What does the test involve guys? I've not yet commenced punting (albeit since around seventeen years ago) but don't fancy the idea of a cotton swab shoved down my japs eye by a stranger.

Is that what they do as well as a visual??

I should add I have been careful when having sex with anyone outside my long term relationship so felt no need to get tested.

Urine sample for chlymidea test, blood for syphallis and HIV, and a swab from inside your pisshole for gonnorreah and nsu (as a minimum)

Results instantly as an indicator, then a week later after lab cultures.

In my experience anyway

west8

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Date of last sexual health screening: 17th December
Date of last unprotected intercourse with drug-taking prostitute: n/a

The second one is important (so perhaps West8 should answer it too) since a recent sexual health screening is not enough on its own. HIV can take 3 months to show up in tests as I'm sure they would have told him at the clinic.

A very apt question LL - Happy to answer it.

The SexyPorsha BB session happened on 04.12.2015. I just checked my phone and her 'thanks - no regrets - it was soooo good message' was received on the following morning (05.12.2015).

I hope she will be tested more frequently now. I know I certainly will!  :vomit:

fredpunter

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What does the test involve guys? I've not yet commenced punting (albeit since around seventeen years ago) but don't fancy the idea of a cotton swab shoved down my japs eye by a stranger.

Is that what they do as well as a visual??

I should add I have been careful when having sex with anyone outside my long term relationship so felt no need to get tested.

where are you based? If convenient I recommend dean street express, simple pee in a bottle and give a blood sample and results by text within a few hours, and all completely free. Thanks to akauya for the tip.

Offline Swsnapper

South Wales so think it's the local hospital GUM clinic

Offline house music dave

I went for my last test yesterday, i seriously wanted to tell the two 17 year old girls that were in there to shut the fuck up, they were bantering about aids and saying i they couldn't believe there were so many old people in there. I get that i'm now an old bastard by their standards and i get that it's great that they can discuss smear tests and coils like it's normal, after all sexual health is important, but they were jabbering on like inane fuckwits and showing no respect or tact to the people that were in clinic with them.

Nothing up the japseye for the last 3-4 years all done through piss and blood tests. the worst thing you might encounter is having genital warts frozen off . 

west8

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i seriously wanted to tell the two 17 year old girls that were in there to shut the fuck up

I bet you wanted to do a lot more than that to them both.  :drinks:

Offline house music dave

I bet you wanted to do a lot more than that to them both.  :drinks:

I'll repeat, they were 17 and fucking annoying.
As i regularly harp on about west I am in a wheelchair, who wants to be done cowboy or given a shitty blowjob by an inexperienced girl? who is most likely gonna get on your tits within 20 mins.

plus i've got a thing for milfs :)

   

Trelf

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I went for a test yesterday at the GUM clinic...havent been for a few years as I had stopped punting while in a relationship but that ended late last year so back on the scene.
The staff are great.....urine test,blood test and throat swab done.
Lots of young very fit lasses in the waiting area too!
BTW it was recommended that I have Hep.B jabs which I have started.
Anyone else been recommended this course of action?

Offline house music dave

yep, waiting to see if i'm now immune to Hep. B. I think it's 3 shots and then maybe a booster, I've never been offered a throat swab before though should I ask next time? I don't tend to do oral on her, but i do like rimming from time to time.

Trelf

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yep, waiting to see if i'm now immune to Hep. B. I think it's 3 shots and then maybe a booster, I've never been offered a throat swab before though should I ask next time? I don't tend to do oral on her, but i do like rimming from time to time.

Was asked if I performed oral on escorts which I do...not sure if that was the reason for the throat swab??
Yeah, I have to go back next week for the 2nd jab and 2 weeks after for the 3rd...then in a year for the booster as you say.

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Everyone should be getting an arse swab too regardless of whether you indulge. I was told STIs can be passed through saliva from oral into the back passage.

Offline dieseldriver

So is the swab test down your pee-hole still done or not? Last time had this done was must be 20+ years back. Found Clamidia, but nothing else. In fact TWICE done! First time the ex GF got warts from her ex, the second time, she had an itchy pussy. Done at what was then Oldchurch hospital in Romford. And the pox clinic was in an outbuilding right next to the main Rd. So anyone passing by knows why your going in there.
Oldchurch is now a housing estate with a new hospital called Queens replacing it not far away.

Reason I ask about the pee-hole test is because in the last five years had a couple of extramarital affairs where done bareback. No signs of anything, but like to be sure nothing in hibernation?

Offline house music dave

 
Everyone should be getting an arse swab too regardless of whether you indulge. I was told STIs can be passed through saliva from oral into the back passage.


As far as i know there is no swab that involves the japseye anymore.

I have an idea what an "arse swab" would involve but have never been offered one. can you explain more lillywhite. I've got a feeling that if I asked for one at my local clinic they'd raise their eyebrows... great as they are

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As far as i know there is no swab that involves the japseye anymore.

I have an idea what an "arse swab" would involve but have never been offered one. can you explain more lillywhite. I've got a feeling that if I asked for one at my local clinic they'd raise their eyebrows... great as they are

I go to a sex worker specific clinic and they say we (girls and guys) should be swabbed up the ass as saliva can run down from the genitals into the ass. So even if no one is going there, it's important to make sure nothing has found it's way into the hole.

Offline StevenS

 

As far as i know there is no swab that involves the japseye anymore.


I've had a number of tests over the years (4 in the last 12 months) and all have involved the "stick down the dick". Sounds worse than it is. All clear by the way!

fredpunter

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I've had a number of tests over the years (4 in the last 12 months) and all have involved the "stick down the dick". Sounds worse than it is. All clear by the way!

sounds to me like they just don't like you

Offline StevenS

sounds to me like they just don't like you

Could be right fred. The run up the nurse takes, feels a little over the top

Offline house music dave

I've had a number of tests over the years (4 in the last 12 months) and all have involved the "stick down the dick". Sounds worse than it is. All clear by the way!

Thinking about it, it must be about the capabilities and the way the testing lab is set up?


Offline Swsnapper

Somewhat naively I guessI hadn't really considered the need for regular testing if using protection.  As I am in a relationship but sex is far too infrequent for my liking I'm starting to feel a little guilty that I could be passing on something that's gonna be somewhat unexplainable....  Haven't embarked on anything yet but guess even if using a condom isn't fool proof?


Old monk

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Read Smiths post again guys, it has an awful lot of wisdom about it.

One error though, the fact that the WG can show you a dated cert is no guarantee that she was clear on said date. She will only be clear on said date + gestation period of any specific disease.
So if cert says clear on the 15 th of the month add a few days for bacterial shit like gonorrhoea, add 30 odd days for stuff like syphilis and up to whatever it is for HIV.

It takes this time for stuff to show up!! So girl clear on 15 th said month isn't really worth the paper it's printed on to you!!

Trelf

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No swab up the japseye for me when I went!

Offline Thepacifist

Last results from 29/08/14 were all fine. I'm gonna go ASAP and wait for the results before I punt again.

Offline smiths

Read Smiths post again guys, it has an awful lot of wisdom about it.

One error though, the fact that the WG can show you a dated cert is no guarantee that she was clear on said date. She will only be clear on said date + gestation period of any specific disease.
So if cert says clear on the 15 th of the month add a few days for bacterial shit like gonorrhoea, add 30 odd days for stuff like syphilis and up to whatever it is for HIV.

It takes this time for stuff to show up!! So girl clear on 15 th said month isn't really worth the paper it's printed on to you!!

Thanks, and thats why i put at best in brackets. ;)

Offline smiths

Somewhat naively I guessI hadn't really considered the need for regular testing if using protection.  As I am in a relationship but sex is far too infrequent for my liking I'm starting to feel a little guilty that I could be passing on something that's gonna be somewhat unexplainable....  Haven't embarked on anything yet but guess even if using a condom isn't fool proof?

Condoms can break or get a hole or holes in even of course so they arent foolproof thats for sure, but obviously safer to use than not.

dilettante

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Still haven't had the conclusive 3-months HIV test after that druggie skank in Dudley I was dumb enough not to walk from, who has now had to hide her FB after I left stinking comments on it.  Thankfully have survived long enough to make my 1000th UKP post, anyway!  :hi:

Offline Mr Br1ghts1de

I try and go every 3 months. I always have a blood test, urine test and throat swab. Last time I went (December), I also had a course of 3 Hep B jabs which I believe give me a year's immunity.

SUMO61

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Condoms can break or get a hole or holes in even of course so they arent foolproof thats for sure, but obviously safer to use than not.

And the WG has to have an STI in the first place, so the probabilities here of broken condom occurring at the same time the WG has an STI are beyond tiny...

Its easy to imagine that WGs are riddled with STIs, but the truth is, they are probably not. Twenty years of punting, several STI tests and i've never caught a cold. All i've every suffered from is anxiety reading forums like this and the internet  ;)

dilettante

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... which I believe give me a year's immunity.
I sincerely hope you live longer than that ...  :(

Offline smiths

And the WG has to have an STI in the first place, so the probabilities here of broken condom occurring at the same time the WG has an STI are beyond tiny...

Its easy to imagine that WGs are riddled with STIs, but the truth is, they are probably not. Twenty years of punting, several STI tests and i've never caught a cold. All i've every suffered from is anxiety reading forums like this and the internet  ;)

I was of course answering the point about condoms being foolproof, they arent but they are safer than going BB obviously.

I havent caught anything i know of STI wise in over 30 years of punting and fucking civvies, the point is the next WG COULD be the one to infect me, i know that but accept the risks for the rewards on offer as i see them. ;)

Offline ik8133

I've just looked up my local GUM clinic and it asks that your register prior to being seen, asking to give details such as name and address, contact and GP details, does this happen in other GUM clinics as well, I though that you could be totally anonymous? 

They do however state that they have a confidentiality guarantee, hope it's full proof.  :scare: 

Marmite

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As Smiths said above a clear test is just a snapshot in time.  The same test done a day later could provide a different result.  Tests need to be done frequently.

Do WG's get regularly tested?  Difficult to know, but I suspect the good ones do.  This forum provides a means to identify good service providers. 

If a WG is good at her job and tries to provide a high standard of service she may well look after herself to a high standard.  A WG who is indifferent to her clients may have lower standards of personal care.  This may not always be true but as far as I am concerned it is another reason to seek the best.

They do however state that they have a confidentiality guarantee, hope it's full proof.  :scare:

Confidential.... a very over used word.  I think many people use false details.

LL

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A very apt question LL - Happy to answer it.

The SexyPorsha BB session happened on 04.12.2015. I just checked my phone and her 'thanks - no regrets - it was soooo good message' was received on the following morning (05.12.2015).

I hope she will be tested more frequently now. I know I certainly will!  :vomit:
Have you talked to your GUM clinic about what happened?  Being tested more frequently won't be sufficient. They will tell you to abstain from sex, protected or not, for the next 3 or 6 months (depending upon the screening period which I forget but the GUM clinic staff will know!). If you've got any respect for the girls you see and other punters then you'll follow their advice.

west8

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That won't be happening LL. Sure, I will be rather careful in terms of which services I partake in, but the most interesting thing these past few days has been the reaction of the usual girls I have seen.

They find the hypocrisy of certain punters to be hilarious.

Not only have many punters who rushed to label me a public health hazard engaged in serious cock/pussy play .. a few nameless idiots have even pressed girls for bareback - and been refused.

Perhaps that is why the girls - knowing full well about this thread - have no issue whatsoever with meeting me.

Even more amusing is the fact that a handful of nameless but well reviewed girls who openly sell themselves as receptacles for bodily fluids from every Tom, Dick and Abdul have been the most vocal.

So either all the girls are wrong and us punters should stop seeing them all, or (the truth) the more vocal punters are deluding themselves that they are 'safer' by avoiding certain girls.

Fact of the matter is a simple one ... punting really isn't for the faint hearted!

Moreover, a certain known barebacking girl still has an 'open' sign hanging over her gash ... but I guess the punters don't give a shit.

Brilliant!  :vomit:


Offline Bangers and Gash

Have you talked to your GUM clinic about what happened?  Being tested more frequently won't be sufficient. They will tell you to abstain from sex, protected or not, for the next 3 or 6 months (depending upon the screening period which I forget but the GUM clinic staff will know!). If you've got any respect for the girls you see and other punters then you'll follow their advice.

+1  :thumbsup:

Some people just like chasing the bug, or they're ignorant / selfish / retarded...  :wacko: :wackogirl:

Offline Bigus Dickus

That won't be happening LL. Sure, I will be rather careful in terms of which services I partake in, but the most interesting thing these past few days has been the reaction of the usual girls I have seen.

They find the hypocrisy of certain punters to be hilarious.

Not only have many punters who rushed to label me a public health hazard engaged in serious cock/pussy play .. a few nameless idiots have even pressed girls for bareback - and been refused.

Perhaps that is why the girls - knowing full well about this thread - have no issue whatsoever with meeting me.

Even more amusing is the fact that a handful of nameless but well reviewed girls who openly sell themselves as receptacles for bodily fluids from every Tom, Dick and Abdul have been the most vocal.

So either all the girls are wrong and us punters should stop seeing them all, or (the truth) the more vocal punters are deluding themselves that they are 'safer' by avoiding certain girls.

Fact of the matter is a simple one ... punting really isn't for the faint hearted!

Moreover, a certain known barebacking girl still has an 'open' sign hanging over her gash ... but I guess the punters don't give a shit.

Brilliant!  :vomit:

I've not seen anyone support you on here and I don't trust your word as I find you very self-serving and two faced

I see you are still slagging off the girl you did BB with on one hand saying she's still working but on the other hand you also use her message to you about her negative test result to suggest that you are disease free and continue to punt.  :vomit:  We all know why you've started this publicity stunt thread. Your weasel words are wasted on the vast majority of people on here.

I think your recent posts on here show you are a person of appalling character. You mentioned on a thread about Aspergers Syndrome recently and I think you brought that up because you are familiar with the symptoms! You are a swivel-eyed loon! Get some help!

 :wacko:


LL

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Not only have many punters who rushed to label me a public health hazard engaged in serious cock/pussy play .. a few nameless idiots have even pressed girls for bareback - and been refused.
Seeking out other examples of unacceptable behaviour will not justify your own.

So either all the girls are wrong and us punters should stop seeing them all, or (the truth) the more vocal punters are deluding themselves that they are 'safer' by avoiding certain girls.
I don't think you can criticise a punter who avoids girls who are known to have recently seen somebody who openly admits to barebacking other prostitutes. Certain girls might be liars and just as reckless as you. However, I believe that the majority are not. I don't think you're the authority on this such that you can offer "the truth" as you arrogantly claim. If you carry on punting as normal in the next few months that is risky behaviour and affects not just yourself. Don't take my word for it or your prossies' word for it. Ask at the clinic.

Tjkooker

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A very apt question LL - Happy to answer it.

The SexyPorsha BB session happened on 04.12.2015. I just checked my phone and her 'thanks - no regrets - it was soooo good message' was received on the following morning (05.12.2015).

I hope she will be tested more frequently now. I know I certainly will!  :vomit:

That's a miracle, you got tested in Dec 2015 and came back in time to tell us.  Don't you just hate it when liars forget to proof read before posting. If you didn't live in such a fantasy land you would have noticed that mistake. Especially as you made it twice.