Author Topic: The Case of Sally-Anne Bowen  (Read 973 times)

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Schoolteachers who have been up to no good must come up before the beak hundreds of times a year.  So why is it that the story always get so much attention when those involved are a young female teacher and a teenage boy – for example in today’s and yesterday’s Times?

It couldn’t be prurience, could it?

The offences took place in the late 1980s at Christ’s College, Finchley.  The offender, a woman called Sally-Anne Bowen, was in her mid-twenties.  Photographs from the time – I’ve searched so you don’t have to – indicate that she was very attractive.

The boys were 14 or 15.   One of them said he had sex with her “about twenty or thirty times”.  He did not deny enjoying “the sex, the games and secrets”, but said: “For me it was the destruction of my education.”

In what way?  How much more destructive was it than all the other foolish, unwise and / or criminal things teenage boys get up to?

And why did he keep coming back for more?  And why did it take him almost 40 years to complain?

I am / was not a fly on the wall in the courtroom or in the relevant bedroom, but nonetheless I would suggest that if Ms Bowen – who is now 65 – goes to jail it will be a travesty.

Of course in such cases a teacher should be sacked if the pupil complains, and be banned from teaching for life.  But that is sufficient punishment.


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So put the teaching element aside (which moves the consent age from 16 to 18) do you condone someone in their twenties having sex with fourteen/fifteen year olds?


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Of course in such cases a teacher should be sacked if the pupil complains, and be banned from teaching for life.  But that is sufficient punishment.


The pupil complaining or not, is irrelevant in deciding if someone has abused a position of trust  :hi:

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The cynic in me questions why he took several decades to complain, has he been paid by a newspaper?

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Schoolteachers who have been up to no good must come up before the beak hundreds of times a year.  So why is it that the story always get so much attention when those involved are a young female teacher and a teenage boy – for example in today’s and yesterday’s Times?

It couldn’t be prurience, could it?

The offences took place in the late 1980s at Christ’s College, Finchley.  The offender, a woman called Sally-Anne Bowen, was in her mid-twenties.  Photographs from the time – I’ve searched so you don’t have to – indicate that she was very attractive.

The boys were 14 or 15.   One of them said he had sex with her “about twenty or thirty times”.  He did not deny enjoying “the sex, the games and secrets”, but said: “For me it was the destruction of my education.”

In what way?  How much more destructive was it than all the other foolish, unwise and / or criminal things teenage boys get up to?

And why did he keep coming back for more?  And why did it take him almost 40 years to complain?

I am / was not a fly on the wall in the courtroom or in the relevant bedroom, but nonetheless I would suggest that if Ms Bowen – who is now 65 – goes to jail it will be a travesty.

Of course in such cases a teacher should be sacked if the pupil complains, and be banned from teaching for life.  But that is sufficient punishment.
Ms Bowen will have known it was clearly against the rules professionally, and a criminal offence.

Victims/survivors of sexual abuse do 'go back for more', and are often confused at their own arousal. Yes a person can be arouse, orgasm even during abuse and rape.

But she would have known, it's not one of those 'oh I didn't know the law or age of consent' situations, I am certain she will have had the does and do nots explained to her during teacher training.

Out of interest if this was a male teacher, would you feel any different?

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Schoolteachers who have been up to no good must come up before the beak hundreds of times a year.  So why is it that the story always get so much attention when those involved are a young female teacher and a teenage boy – for example in today’s and yesterday’s Times?

It couldn’t be prurience, could it?

The offences took place in the late 1980s at Christ’s College, Finchley.  The offender, a woman called Sally-Anne Bowen, was in her mid-twenties.  Photographs from the time – I’ve searched so you don’t have to – indicate that she was very attractive.

The boys were 14 or 15.   One of them said he had sex with her “about twenty or thirty times”.  He did not deny enjoying “the sex, the games and secrets”, but said: “For me it was the destruction of my education.”

In what way?  How much more destructive was it than all the other foolish, unwise and / or criminal things teenage boys get up to?

And why did he keep coming back for more?  And why did it take him almost 40 years to complain?

I am / was not a fly on the wall in the courtroom or in the relevant bedroom, but nonetheless I would suggest that if Ms Bowen – who is now 65 – goes to jail it will be a travesty.

Of course in such cases a teacher should be sacked if the pupil complains, and be banned from teaching for life.  But that is sufficient punishment.
An adult had sex with a child and you are defending it.
Whether it was yesterday or 40 years ago matters not, it is/was against the law.
Should Savills crimes or Cyril Smiths crimes be ignored if they were still alive?

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The cynic in me questions why he took several decades to complain, has he been paid by a newspaper?

Sometime survivors wait until their own parents are dead, or something else triggers the ability to make a formal complaint.

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Let's face it, as far as the media are concerned, sex sells, especially if at least one of the participants is attractive, preferably the female one.

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Sometime survivors wait until their own parents are dead, or something else triggers the ability to make a formal complaint.

Indeed. Her Professional Conduct hearing took place in December 2023.

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A lengthy and difficult 'legal' read but she was removed from ever teaching in 2024.


This is also interesting in relation to the timescale. Police/CPS did not pursue it over 10 years ago but are now?

"Pupil A reported an allegation to the police in 2014 that Ms Bowen had commenced a sexual relationship with him whilst he was aged [Redacted] during his time at the School and that sexual activity took place at the home that Ms Bowen occupied and this continued for a short period after Ms Bowen left the School. The police investigation concluded with no further action. Pupil A pursued an unsuccessful appeal of this decision and a judicial review which led to no further criminal law action being taken. Pupil A sent a referral form to the TRA on or around 7 March 2018."



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Also it's not just sex, relationships like this could affect how the pupil, their peers are treated at school, marks, support or not. Also confusing. Workplace relationships between adults can be fraught with dangers, never mind teacher and pupil. Rules are there for good reason.

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Also it's not just sex, relationships like this could affect how the pupil, their peers are treated at school, marks, support or not. Also confusing. Workplace relationships between adults can be fraught with dangers, never mind teacher and pupil. Rules are there for good reason.

Agreed.

The problem is we have been her before a number of times with similar cases and many members see no problem with what she has done. "Lucky lads" "I wish my teacher had seduced me when I was 14" etc. Perhaps it is worse because it is a punting forum?

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=406827.0

As I have often posted in the past with such cases, it often helps to read the Judge's Sentencing remarks.

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In particular he poses the question some have raised here .. and then goes on to answer it.

"From the outside it might be easy to fall into a misconception that these two boys were not victims. What 15 year old boy wouldn’t want to have sex with his older
attractive teacher? Surely they were up for it? How can that be a crime?"



It is a crime. They are children. The variations of the sex of the participants does not change that.



Offline Jomoore

Out of interest if this was a male teacher, would you feel any different?

That's a very interesting question, and it made me think.  And I think it is different, but I'm not totally sure why.  Maybe something along the lines of: if a teacher had had such a relationship with my teenage daughter (at the time) I'd have ripped his throat out.  However if an attractive 20 something teacher had had an affair with my teenage son, I'd have thought "lucky little sod". So would he.  ;)

Offline alabama1

That's a very interesting question, and it made me think. And I think it is different, but I'm not totally sure why.  Maybe something along the lines of: if a teacher had had such a relationship with my teenage daughter (at the time) I'd have ripped his throat out.  However if an attractive 20 something teacher had had an affair with my teenage son, I'd have thought "lucky little sod". So would he.  ;)
What an immature thing to say. I doubt you have ever had an intelligent thought in your life  :thumbsdown:

Offline DastardlyDick

What an immature thing to say. I doubt you have ever had an intelligent thought in your life  :thumbsdown:
It may well be immature, but I'd say it's an accurate reflection of Society outside of punting world. I'm sure we can all remember the time when a mate boasted of his sexual conquests he was admired, but if a girl did the same thing, she was branded a slut. I see that Sun article perpetuates the idea that if a girl/woman wears short skirts or a tight too  she's "asked for it".
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Offline Jomoore

What an immature thing to say. I doubt you have ever had an intelligent thought in your life  :thumbsdown:

Would you care to elaborate?

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It may well be immature, but I'd say it's an accurate reflection of Society outside of punting world. I'm sure we can all remember the time when a mate boasted of his sexual conquests he was admired, but if a girl did the same thing, she was branded a slut. I see that Sun article perpetuates the idea that if a girl/woman wears short skirts or a tight too  she's "asked for it".

That was my point, ie, nothing has changed.  The intellectually challenged Alabama troll fails to grasp this.