Can't be the Right Thing to do, Can it?

[jamiekinkxxx]

So we know there are lots of lurkers (and some quite active members I would imagine) on here. Ones that make it difficult for others as they 'use' information (reviews etc.) to sometimes try and gain favour etc.

I have personally seen this following a review I did a few years ago. Behaviour by people within the UKP community following that review  forced the SP in question to feel scared / threatened and she ultimately removed herself from the internet.

Now I do not review the hidden gems I find for this very reason, so even the general membership of UKP lose out due to the behaviour of the lurkers (and certain others).

However I was shocked today when I received a DM from a UKP member asking for a specific SPs mobile # as he wanted to "arrange something with her". Now this all maybe very innocent BUT it is not my place to give out mobile #'s esp. when said escort has never advertised it (to my knowledge anyhow) but can easily be messaged via the AW site.

I politely declined suggesting he contact her directly via AW.

This is just the wrong behaviour / attitude IMHO for UKP members to be doing.

Why would anyone expect others to hand out #'s to others we do not know (other than being a member on here)?

[Fuzzyduck]

I broadly agree with you but it's unrealistic to believe that everyone feels or behaves the same way as you. There are always takers in life and there are always people who don't respect boundaries. Whilst we all share a common hobby, there is quite a cross section of people here, some of whom are total cunts. I don't think it's out of order to ask for a number per se (he may not have known it's not in the public domain) but I'd hope the requester respected the reasons for being declined. If he did know the number was private, then that's a little creepy.

[MissWolf]

It also, potentially bypasses a large selection of the SPs screening process and compromises her safely. When the SP questions how he got the number the likelihood is he will name drop you and fuck it up for you too,

[Waterhouse]

Name and shame him, that’s my opinion.  If he felt he couldn’t ask openly and innocently on the forum, then asking via PM is just plain sneaky and frowned upon here.

[jamiekinkxxx]

It also, potentially bypasses a large selection of the SPs screening process and compromises her safely. When the SP questions how he got the number the likelihood is he will name drop you and fuck it up for you too,

100% this  and the very reason why I would never provide a # that is not publicly available.

[myothernameis]

Name and shame him, that’s my opinion.  If he felt he couldn’t ask openly and innocently on the forum, then asking via PM is just plain sneaky and frowned upon here.

I would  say that a issue that belongs with the mods, as for the request, a simple report to the mod would supervise

[RandomGuy99]

You did the right thing. If an SP wants you to have their number then they'll give it to you.

[hendrix]

It also, potentially bypasses a large selection of the SPs screening process and compromises her safely. When the SP questions how he got the number the likelihood is he will name drop you and fuck it up for you too,

Absolutely this. Also, it's why I really don't like the "just change your number" advice in the context of being refused a booking. Just move on ffs.

In the past, I've also had members asking me if specific WG's would definitely provide specific services which is bizarre given I'm not the one that's going to be in the room  ask her yourself!

[koshkaj]

I do agree with not handing out SP numbers, but

Now I do not review the hidden gems I find for this very reason, so even the general membership of UKP lose out due to the behaviour of the lurkers (and certain others).

So you're happy to to use the forum, enjoy the gems that others find and review, but will keep the ones you find to yourself? Makes you just as parasitic as the leechers. imo. If you are so worried as you claim about SP safety then you wouldn't review anyone at all, as opposed to just not reviewing the gems, and would remove yourself from the forum.

To paraphrase your closing line:

Why would anyone expect others to review the hidden gems they find and share with the with community, when they are not willing to do the same?

[jamiekinkxxx]

So you're happy to to use the forum, enjoy the gems that others find and review, but will keep the ones you find to yourself? Makes you just as parasitic as the leechers. imo. If you are so worried as you claim about SP safety then you wouldn't review anyone at all, as opposed to just not reviewing the gems, and would remove yourself from the forum.

To paraphrase your closing line:

Why would anyone expect others to review the hidden gems they find and share with the with community, when they are not willing to do the same?

That aside, i agree that numbers should not be handed out.

I review many other experiences. I contribute to the site in general.

However I do not now immediately review the odd hidden gem I find.... I may later (line edited to be more precise)

If you think that make me a leech / parasite then so be it

[MLawro93]

I've had this issue multiple times before. Either gets ignored or reported. I don't think they can plead ignorance, they are just actively trying to bypass the SPs screening process.

I've had messages from guys asking who are the escorts that are talking badly about them as well, which was a what the fuck moment...

If the number isn't advertised publicly then its a complete no in terms of sharing it.

In the past, I've also had members asking me if specific WG's would definitely provide specific services which is bizarre given I'm not the one that's going to be in the room  ask her yourself!

Get this a fair bit sometimes, as with everything, its always at the SPs discretion.

[MLawro93]

I do agree with not handing out SP numbers, but

So you're happy to to use the forum, enjoy the gems that others find and review, but will keep the ones you find to yourself? Makes you just as parasitic as the leechers. imo. If you are so worried as you claim about SP safety then you wouldn't review anyone at all, as opposed to just not reviewing the gems, and would remove yourself from the forum.

To paraphrase your closing line:

Why would anyone expect others to review the hidden gems they find and share with the with community, when they are not willing to do the same?

I review many other experiences. I contribute to the site in general.

However I do not now immediately review the odd hidden gem I find.

If you think that make me a leech then so be it

Its possible to get to a point where you only post really limited reviews to prevent setting false expectations for other punters, i.e., was it positive, neutral, negative, services offered/taken, and how much paid. None of the descriptions that might be posted, i.e., the level the enthusiasm, the positions, all the little details, etc.

[koshkaj]

I review many other experiences. I contribute to the site in general.

However I do not now immediatelyreview the odd hidden gem I find.

If you think that make me a leech / parasite then so be it

That's completely different. Your original post gave the impression that you never do it.

Its possible to get to a point where you only post really limited reviews to prevent setting false expectations for other punters, i.e., was it positive, neutral, negative, services offered/taken, and how much paid. None of the descriptions that might be posted, i.e., the level the enthusiasm, the positions, all the little details, etc.

Sure, but you're still reviewing.

[jamiekinkxxx]

That's completely different. Your original post gave the impression that you never do it.

Well I am sorry if you read something in one way. I'll try and be more precise for you next time.

So does that mean I am not a parasite / leech koshkaj? 

[koshkaj]

Well I am sorry if you read something in one way. I'll try and be more precise for you next time.

So does that mean I am not a parasite / leech koshkaj? 

I suppose so. I am not too big to admit when i am wrong, so I retract my earlier statement 

[jamiekinkxxx]

I suppose so. I am not too big to admit when i am wrong, so I retract my earlier statement 

said like a gentleman. thank you 

[MLawro93]

Sure, but you're still reviewing.

Probably a little differently going forward. Seen too many instances recently where what I've posted has been brought up to a SP, and the punter would get upset that they didn't get the same experience. Just odd behaviour 

[hendrix]

Probably a little differently going forward. Seen too many instances recently where what I've posted has been brought up to a SP, and the punter would get upset that they didn't get the same experience. Just odd behaviour 

Yeah this is proper weirdo/red flag behavior   

[Jamesb92]

Probably a little differently going forward. Seen too many instances recently where what I've posted has been brought up to a SP, and the punter would get upset that they didn't get the same experience. Just odd behaviour 

It is so odd to bring up details of reviews found here and you're right man, there must be so many that do it to try a curry favor or pressure an SP into a 'better' service. I'm going to change how I review moving forward as well.

For any of you lurkers reading this post and your session wasn't as good as a review you had read, you're most likely the cause, buddy .

To be fair though, there is so much that influences the quality of an experience. God, I feel for the SPs who are right at the end of their shift, shattered and some fucking troglodyte walks in and demands the world. if that's you, stop it. Get some help

[koshkaj]

These limited reviews are gonna be so helpful. Lemme try one that just covers the basics with no extra little details.

SP name - location goes here
Rating - Positive
Paid - XXX amount for XXX minutes
Services - DFK, OWO, CIM, Sex with condom

Saw this SP and arranged a booking. She agreed. Arrived and she let me in. Paid my dues and she offered a shower, which i took. Returned to the room and received the services listed. Left on time.

Wow, she sounds great.

[daviemac]

These limited reviews are gonna be so helpful. Lemme try one that just covers the basics with no extra little details.

SP name - location goes here
Rating - Positive
Paid - XXX amount for XXX minutes
Services - DFK, OWO, CIM, Sex with condom

Saw this SP and arranged a booking. She agreed. Arrived and she let me in. Paid my dues and she offered a shower, which i took. Returned to the room and received the services listed. Left on time.

Wow, she sounds great.

What's wrong with that, apart from maybe how the services were delivered and looks? A review like that is infinitely better than no review at all.

All reviews are welcome, as long as the basics are covered how much detail is up to the reviewer, we don't want anyone being discouraged from contributing by members criticising a review based on what they think it should be like, we are all individuals with individual writing styles.

What is against the rules is sharing private phone numbers or ones that are not on public display and using UKP in any way to gain favour. If a member wants to contact an SP in a review they should do so by their stated method and then discuss with them any services they require, they should not presume they will get a particular service just because someone else did.

All booking are individual events between two people who have agreed on what happens at that time and any private information shared during that time should remain just that, private.

This site is here so information can be shared between all members not privately between a select few, the PM facility is restricted for that reason.

[Jamesb92]

With some comments on reviews, such as "how deep did she go?"; "Can you go into more details?"; "Can you describe the exact diameter of her vagene?", especially when more than enough detail has been provided to whether it was positive or negative, I swear some people are here just to jack it to erotica-like reviews .

I followed suit with my first reviews but it made me feel a bit weird going into such detail and I now believe it is entirely unnecessary. The quality of the review depends entirely on the quality of the person providing it and as we have no fucking idea who each other are, and also cannot confirm whether anybody is actually telling the truth, just take part in the hobby you supposedly partake in and find out for yourself.

If an SP has multiple positive reviews, what more does one need to give it a punt, regardless of what's described in the review itself? If you want to add to that, then write a review. If you have a bad experience contrary to a slew of positive reviews, look inward first and remember this is a service industry. Like all other service industries, sometimes that suffers if the person is off their game. It's important to remember they're people and if you're just gross, physically and/or personality-wise, what the fuck do you expect. These ladies owe you nothing and importantly 'good' is subjective. Just because you pay somebody money for something doesn't automatically mean you're going to get a 'good' service.

If anybody reading this really wants to know what an SP provides, how good she can be and how deep she can deep throat a cock, get your fucking wallet out and go have a punt . If you've had sex without paying for it, you'll know that good and bad exists across the spectrum If you disagree with me, cry me a river.

[daviemac]

With some comments on reviews, such as "how deep did she go?"; "Can you go into more details?"; "Can you describe the exact diameter of her vagene?", especially when more than enough detail has been provided to whether it was positive or negative, I swear some people are here just to jack it to erotica-like reviews .

I followed suit with my first reviews but it made me feel a bit weird going into such detail and I now believe it is entirely unnecessary. The quality of the review depends entirely on the quality of the person providing it and as we have no fucking idea who each other are, and also cannot confirm whether anybody is actually telling the truth, just take part in the hobby you supposedly partake in and find out for yourself.

If an SP has multiple positive reviews, what more does one need to give it a punt, regardless of what's described in the review itself? If you want to add to that, then write a review. If you have a bad experience contrary to a slew of positive reviews, look inward first and remember this is a service industry. Like all other service industries, sometimes that suffers if the person is off their game. It's important to remember they're people and if you're just gross, physically and/or personality-wise, what the fuck do you expect. These ladies owe you nothing and importantly 'good' is subjective. Just because you pay somebody money for something doesn't automatically mean you're going to get a 'good' service.

If anybody reading this really wants to know what an SP provides, how good she can be and how deep she can deep throat a cock, get your fucking wallet out and go have a punt . If you've had sex without paying for it, you'll know that good and bad exists across the spectrum If you disagree with me, cry me a river.

I think you have the wrong idea of not only this site but the service industry in general. If an escort can't provide a decent acceptable level of service to anyone who walks through the door they shouldn't be in the job.

We are paying upwards of £2 per minute so as long as we turn up on time, clean, with the right amount of money and behave in a respectful manner while staying within boundaries they do owe us a decent level of service.

[OakTree]

With some comments on reviews, such as "how deep did she go?"; "Can you go into more details?"; "Can you describe the exact diameter of her vagene?", especially when more than enough detail has been provided to whether it was positive or negative, I swear some people are here just to jack it to erotica-like reviews .

I followed suit with my first reviews but it made me feel a bit weird going into such detail and I now believe it is entirely unnecessary. The quality of the review depends entirely on the quality of the person providing it and as we have no fucking idea who each other are, and also cannot confirm whether anybody is actually telling the truth, just take part in the hobby you supposedly partake in and find out for yourself.

If an SP has multiple positive reviews, what more does one need to give it a punt, regardless of what's described in the review itself? If you want to add to that, then write a review. If you have a bad experience contrary to a slew of positive reviews, look inward first and remember this is a service industry. Like all other service industries, sometimes that suffers if the person is off their game. It's important to remember they're people and if you're just gross, physically and/or personality-wise, what the fuck do you expect. These ladies owe you nothing and importantly 'good' is subjective. Just because you pay somebody money for something doesn't automatically mean you're going to get a 'good' service.

If anybody reading this really wants to know what an SP provides, how good she can be and how deep she can deep throat a cock, get your fucking wallet out and go have a punt . If you've had sex without paying for it, you'll know that good and bad exists across the spectrum If you disagree with me, cry me a river.

I can’t work out if this clown is being serious or taking the piss. He uses the sarcastic imoji frequently.

[Steely Dan]

And he talks about theoretical questions.  Most questions are of the sort, 'You didn't mention her looks, does she look like her pics', or How was her English'. It does not happen much - particularly these days - but if I get a question I don't want to answer, I ignore it.  Simples.

And a short review is fine.  But norm is it needs to be more than a simple rating.  The review guide says Link, Looks, Location, Logistics and Service.