Can't be the Right Thing to do, Can it?

[jamiekinkxxx]

So we know there are lots of lurkers (and some quite active members I would imagine) on here. Ones that make it difficult for others as they 'use' information (reviews etc.) to sometimes try and gain favour etc.

I have personally seen this following a review I did a few years ago. Behaviour by people within the UKP community following that review  forced the SP in question to feel scared / threatened and she ultimately removed herself from the internet.

Now I do not review the hidden gems I find for this very reason, so even the general membership of UKP lose out due to the behaviour of the lurkers (and certain others).

However I was shocked today when I received a DM from a UKP member asking for a specific SPs mobile # as he wanted to "arrange something with her". Now this all maybe very innocent BUT it is not my place to give out mobile #'s esp. when said escort has never advertised it (to my knowledge anyhow) but can easily be messaged via the AW site.

I politely declined suggesting he contact her directly via AW.

This is just the wrong behaviour / attitude IMHO for UKP members to be doing.

Why would anyone expect others to hand out #'s to others we do not know (other than being a member on here)?

[Fuzzyduck]

I broadly agree with you but it's unrealistic to believe that everyone feels or behaves the same way as you. There are always takers in life and there are always people who don't respect boundaries. Whilst we all share a common hobby, there is quite a cross section of people here, some of whom are total cunts. I don't think it's out of order to ask for a number per se (he may not have known it's not in the public domain) but I'd hope the requester respected the reasons for being declined. If he did know the number was private, then that's a little creepy.

[MissWolf]

It also, potentially bypasses a large selection of the SPs screening process and compromises her safely. When the SP questions how he got the number the likelihood is he will name drop you and fuck it up for you too,

[Waterhouse]

Name and shame him, that’s my opinion.  If he felt he couldn’t ask openly and innocently on the forum, then asking via PM is just plain sneaky and frowned upon here.

[jamiekinkxxx]

It also, potentially bypasses a large selection of the SPs screening process and compromises her safely. When the SP questions how he got the number the likelihood is he will name drop you and fuck it up for you too,

100% this  and the very reason why I would never provide a # that is not publicly available.

[myothernameis]

Name and shame him, that’s my opinion.  If he felt he couldn’t ask openly and innocently on the forum, then asking via PM is just plain sneaky and frowned upon here.

I would  say that a issue that belongs with the mods, as for the request, a simple report to the mod would supervise

[RandomGuy99]

You did the right thing. If an SP wants you to have their number then they'll give it to you.

[hendrix]

It also, potentially bypasses a large selection of the SPs screening process and compromises her safely. When the SP questions how he got the number the likelihood is he will name drop you and fuck it up for you too,

Absolutely this. Also, it's why I really don't like the "just change your number" advice in the context of being refused a booking. Just move on ffs.

In the past, I've also had members asking me if specific WG's would definitely provide specific services which is bizarre given I'm not the one that's going to be in the room  ask her yourself!

[koshkaj]

I do agree with not handing out SP numbers, but

Now I do not review the hidden gems I find for this very reason, so even the general membership of UKP lose out due to the behaviour of the lurkers (and certain others).

So you're happy to to use the forum, enjoy the gems that others find and review, but will keep the ones you find to yourself? Makes you just as parasitic as the leechers. imo. If you are so worried as you claim about SP safety then you wouldn't review anyone at all, as opposed to just not reviewing the gems, and would remove yourself from the forum.

To paraphrase your closing line:

Why would anyone expect others to review the hidden gems they find and share with the with community, when they are not willing to do the same?

[jamiekinkxxx]

So you're happy to to use the forum, enjoy the gems that others find and review, but will keep the ones you find to yourself? Makes you just as parasitic as the leechers. imo. If you are so worried as you claim about SP safety then you wouldn't review anyone at all, as opposed to just not reviewing the gems, and would remove yourself from the forum.

To paraphrase your closing line:

Why would anyone expect others to review the hidden gems they find and share with the with community, when they are not willing to do the same?

That aside, i agree that numbers should not be handed out.

I review many other experiences. I contribute to the site in general.

However I do not now immediately review the odd hidden gem I find.... I may later (line edited to be more precise)

If you think that make me a leech / parasite then so be it

[MLawro93]

I've had this issue multiple times before. Either gets ignored or reported. I don't think they can plead ignorance, they are just actively trying to bypass the SPs screening process.

I've had messages from guys asking who are the escorts that are talking badly about them as well, which was a what the fuck moment...

If the number isn't advertised publicly then its a complete no in terms of sharing it.

In the past, I've also had members asking me if specific WG's would definitely provide specific services which is bizarre given I'm not the one that's going to be in the room  ask her yourself!

Get this a fair bit sometimes, as with everything, its always at the SPs discretion.

[MLawro93]

I do agree with not handing out SP numbers, but

So you're happy to to use the forum, enjoy the gems that others find and review, but will keep the ones you find to yourself? Makes you just as parasitic as the leechers. imo. If you are so worried as you claim about SP safety then you wouldn't review anyone at all, as opposed to just not reviewing the gems, and would remove yourself from the forum.

To paraphrase your closing line:

Why would anyone expect others to review the hidden gems they find and share with the with community, when they are not willing to do the same?

I review many other experiences. I contribute to the site in general.

However I do not now immediately review the odd hidden gem I find.

If you think that make me a leech then so be it

Its possible to get to a point where you only post really limited reviews to prevent setting false expectations for other punters, i.e., was it positive, neutral, negative, services offered/taken, and how much paid. None of the descriptions that might be posted, i.e., the level the enthusiasm, the positions, all the little details, etc.

[koshkaj]

I review many other experiences. I contribute to the site in general.

However I do not now immediatelyreview the odd hidden gem I find.

If you think that make me a leech / parasite then so be it

That's completely different. Your original post gave the impression that you never do it.

Its possible to get to a point where you only post really limited reviews to prevent setting false expectations for other punters, i.e., was it positive, neutral, negative, services offered/taken, and how much paid. None of the descriptions that might be posted, i.e., the level the enthusiasm, the positions, all the little details, etc.

Sure, but you're still reviewing.

[jamiekinkxxx]

That's completely different. Your original post gave the impression that you never do it.

Well I am sorry if you read something in one way. I'll try and be more precise for you next time.

So does that mean I am not a parasite / leech koshkaj? 

[koshkaj]

Well I am sorry if you read something in one way. I'll try and be more precise for you next time.

So does that mean I am not a parasite / leech koshkaj? 

I suppose so. I am not too big to admit when i am wrong, so I retract my earlier statement 

[jamiekinkxxx]

I suppose so. I am not too big to admit when i am wrong, so I retract my earlier statement 

said like a gentleman. thank you 

[MLawro93]

Sure, but you're still reviewing.

Probably a little differently going forward. Seen too many instances recently where what I've posted has been brought up to a SP, and the punter would get upset that they didn't get the same experience. Just odd behaviour 

[hendrix]

Probably a little differently going forward. Seen too many instances recently where what I've posted has been brought up to a SP, and the punter would get upset that they didn't get the same experience. Just odd behaviour 

Yeah this is proper weirdo/red flag behavior   

[Jamesb92]

Probably a little differently going forward. Seen too many instances recently where what I've posted has been brought up to a SP, and the punter would get upset that they didn't get the same experience. Just odd behaviour 

It is so odd to bring up details of reviews found here and you're right man, there must be so many that do it to try a curry favor or pressure an SP into a 'better' service. I'm going to change how I review moving forward as well.

For any of you lurkers reading this post and your session wasn't as good as a review you had read, you're most likely the cause, buddy .

To be fair though, there is so much that influences the quality of an experience. God, I feel for the SPs who are right at the end of their shift, shattered and some fucking troglodyte walks in and demands the world. if that's you, stop it. Get some help

[koshkaj]

These limited reviews are gonna be so helpful. Lemme try one that just covers the basics with no extra little details.

SP name - location goes here
Rating - Positive
Paid - XXX amount for XXX minutes
Services - DFK, OWO, CIM, Sex with condom

Saw this SP and arranged a booking. She agreed. Arrived and she let me in. Paid my dues and she offered a shower, which i took. Returned to the room and received the services listed. Left on time.

Wow, she sounds great.