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Offline Zalaroon

Right, having only found vague remarks/reviews online I thought I'd go and check them both out.

For the TL;DR version - avoid Caligula, King George was fun.

TL version...

Tried Caligula first. 99 euro entrance became 100 when I actually turned up. Sternly warned no refund if you go in and don't like what you see. Should have realised what that meant. Anyway, 5 or 6 mostly Romanian whores standing around looking bored, texting their mates, chatting with each other, completely ignoring the customers for the most part. The club itself whiffs a bit of horny men, unsurprisingly. Separate smoking lounge. Over the next few hours I just made the best of it, shagged as many of the disinterested and not fabulously attractive women. Most tried hard upselling - 10E for blowjob with no condom, 10 for kissing, 25 for anal. Whenever I said no they'd get pissed off and result in a totally mechanical fuck you as fast they can to get rid of you session. One girl who was not like that - but whose name I cannot remember (lots of whisky... might have been Tanja) didn't try any upselling and with her I had three nice sessions including getting her so relaxed with a bit of oral and massage (on her) that she was close to drifting off into a snooze. I.e., she was knackered. Long hours, and the popular girls (which she was one of) don't want to leave when they're still busy. Anyway apart from that one lovely lass, the rest were pretty forgettable or actively shite. I would not return.

King George the next night. 99E fee, handed over 100, got my 1E change - yippee! Told there were 7 girls on, actually turned into 9. Smoky smelling club, smaller than Caligula but rooms much bigger and toilets a lot cleaner. It was dead when I arrived at 5PM and half the girls were the hard faced Romanian types, doing the ignoring you and fiddling with phone routine... and smoking too - oh oh. Thought I'd just fuck a few and leave to not waste an entire night again. However when a few more guys turned up the girls sprang to life a bit more and by 8PM some of them were dancing with flashes of cunt and tits, I had been thoroughly fucked by 3 of them with NO upselling AT ALL and from then on it was just a pleasurable mixture of drinking/resting and then picking another bird to bounce on. Ones that I can remember were:

Miriam who 69ed like a tiger and enjoyed having her ass eaten so much she spent some minutes sitting on my face
Katja who was incredibly short, lots of fun and who came - a lot - and clearly approved as she dragged me off twice more for repeat sessions, I was even sucking her tits at the bar at one point.
Ramona - bigger girl with huge tits, a mild attempt at upsell but not bothered when I said no and still shagged me nicely
Klaudia - MILF type but boring as fuck both in terms of boring you to death with talking and being a dead fish shag

...and there were others but forget the names. I avoided the hard faced looking Romanian ones. There was an annoying ugly black women sat talking to the barmaid, and both of them were rude and irritating in their manner e.g. shouting at customers for laughing too loudly. Well fuck me for having a good time, cunts... anyway didn't let it ruin the evening and staggered out at closing time fully satisfied.

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Offline elihd

I never been to such places i.e. whores buffet, thanks for sharing tho  :drinks:. However i would rather pay 60E for 30mins where i get owo + kissing & maybe cim with an independent wg.

Offline Hertsgent

Nice one - going to Berlin in March so very useful - King George it is!

Offline Steve2

I'd read other reviews on King George and Berlin before making your mind up

There are many better options in Berlin

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Offline Jerboa

Nice one - going to Berlin in March so very useful - King George it is!

So the OP says he had a very average experience at the club, and you want to go, are you one of those easily pleased type of punters? As Steve said there are better options in Berlin.

Offline Zalaroon

Actually I said I staggered out fully satisified... for the money it was fine. And "there are better options" one-liners really don't help at all because that's all I bloody found before I went - seems you can pay waaaaaaaaay more than 99E elsewhere, or join a gangbang with a bunch of other blokes at the same time, or... standard one on ones.

Offline bbj1980

So the OP says he had a very average experience at the club, and you want to go, are you one of those easily pleased type of punters? As Steve said there are better options in Berlin.

better options such as?

geek_lover

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I was at Caligula in December, I know there are better places but this was conveniently located for me.  I have to agree that I did not get my Euro change (not particularly bothered if I am honest).  The toilets were a disgrace as mentioned but there was soap so as long as I can was my hands I can let the rest go.  The up-selling was immensely annoying but well priced for the few I chose to buy extras from.

I was warned by the overbearing doorman that there was no refund when I entered, I wasn't too worried as I expected to get the money’s worth.  The lady in charge explained the rules, explained also that you have to go to the girls if you like them (probably the main flaw with this place for me).  I go there about 630pm and stayed until after 3am, I worked my way through 6 one-on-one punts.  Of these 6 girls 3 were really good fun, 2 were ok and one was forgettable at best.  I was exhausted by the end of the night and was getting ready to go, there were two women dancing near me on the stage who called me over, neither was great but they had asked why I wasn't taking one of them to the room for sex.  I jokingly said "because I can't decide which one to take", when in reality I wasn't really up for it.  One of the girls then suggested a threesome and so I joked "Ok" she went to check with the boss and came back saying that it was ok.  I went off and had a very average threesome though it did take my total to 8 ladies for the night.

The place had 6-8 women when I entered at 6.30pm, rising to around 12-14 for the peak hours and still had 8+ at 3am.  The ratio of women to men was as high as 3women to one man for large portions of the evening and rarely got much worse than 1:1.  Most men in there were as interested in the unlimited drinks as they were the ladies.  I would say most men only punt once or twice in an evening as a few times I got looks/cheers at how many times I was disappearing off to the rooms!

So my 100 euros got me 8 ladies across 7 sessions and quite a substantial amount of alcohol and soft drinks (I alternated to avoid becoming too drunk, probably had around 8-10 of each across the night).  Now I totally accept the opinion that you get what you pay for and I was under no illusions that this place was not going to be great, however I had a good enough time and was extremely satisfied and totally worn out.  Now while they might not all be stunners and they might not all fuck like pornstars it was still good fun.  I mean where else can you screw 8 women and get free drinks for less than £87, it served a purpose and I would go again.  There are times when I want a stunner and will pay handsomely and there are times when I want a good drink and to screw everything in sight, for these times Caligula served the purpose.

It's not a Gold Service Venue but if like me you have an evening where you fancy quantity over quality then it’s a cheap compromise.  I wouldn't rush back or book a special trip, but if in the area again I would definitely visit.  Perhaps next time I will try King George as well.

Offline Jerboa

Geek lovers report sounds similar to my visits to PTs, fairly average punts but can be fun.

Offline adindas

Thnaks you for the report.
You should also Try Erlenis Wohnung
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or Annie Porsche
External Link/Members Only

To enrich experience and varieties ....

I was at Caligula in December, I know there are better places but this was conveniently located for me.  I have to agree that I did not get my Euro change (not particularly bothered if I am honest).  The toilets were a disgrace as mentioned but there was soap so as long as I can was my hands I can let the rest go.  The up-selling was immensely annoying but well priced for the few I chose to buy extras from.

I was warned by the overbearing doorman that there was no refund when I entered, I wasn't too worried as I expected to get the money’s worth.  The lady in charge explained the rules, explained also that you have to go to the girls if you like them (probably the main flaw with this place for me).  I go there about 630pm and stayed until after 3am, I worked my way through 6 one-on-one punts.  Of these 6 girls 3 were really good fun, 2 were ok and one was forgettable at best.  I was exhausted by the end of the night and was getting ready to go, there were two women dancing near me on the stage who called me over, neither was great but they had asked why I wasn't taking one of them to the room for sex.  I jokingly said "because I can't decide which one to take", when in reality I wasn't really up for it.  One of the girls then suggested a threesome and so I joked "Ok" she went to check with the boss and came back saying that it was ok.  I went off and had a very average threesome though it did take my total to 8 ladies for the night.

The place had 6-8 women when I entered at 6.30pm, rising to around 12-14 for the peak hours and still had 8+ at 3am.  The ratio of women to men was as high as 3women to one man for large portions of the evening and rarely got much worse than 1:1.  Most men in there were as interested in the unlimited drinks as they were the ladies.  I would say most men only punt once or twice in an evening as a few times I got looks/cheers at how many times I was disappearing off to the rooms!

So my 100 euros got me 8 ladies across 7 sessions and quite a substantial amount of alcohol and soft drinks (I alternated to avoid becoming too drunk, probably had around 8-10 of each across the night).  Now I totally accept the opinion that you get what you pay for and I was under no illusions that this place was not going to be great, however I had a good enough time and was extremely satisfied and totally worn out.  Now while they might not all be stunners and they might not all fuck like pornstars it was still good fun.  I mean where else can you screw 8 women and get free drinks for less than £87, it served a purpose and I would go again.  There are times when I want a stunner and will pay handsomely and there are times when I want a good drink and to screw everything in sight, for these times Caligula served the purpose.

It's not a Gold Service Venue but if like me you have an evening where you fancy quantity over quality then it’s a cheap compromise.  I wouldn't rush back or book a special trip, but if in the area again I would definitely visit.  Perhaps next time I will try King George as well.

geek_lover

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Thanks for the info adindas.  I am a bit self conscious at the moment I think for these places.  But a definite for the future.  All this talk of the place has made me fancy a trip back to Berlin, my last visit was too short!  Lets see what cheap deals sleazyjet have on for Early Feb!

Offline spiderfred

I went to King George a couple of years ago when I was new to punting. Had sessions with 3 girls, 2 of whom were attractive, the first was not, but beckoned me over and I went with her for the novelty more than anything else. Sex was basic and oral was covered.

Will go again if I'm in Berlin I think, see if I can make more of a go of it.

Online webpunter

better options such as?
Artemis  External Link/Members Only
Not flat rate - entry fee [per 24 hrs & you can leave then return] & then priced per 30 mins.  Think €60 or €80 - i can't remember.  But loads of girlies 40-50 & some absolute stunners amongst them.  Awesome place.  Nice & safe & you feel relaxed there.  And the girlies seem the same.  Proper lockers - the ones for valuables are highly visible by the reception area so nothing will get stolen.  Drinks aren't too expensive either.  Not a rip off type place.  Visited 3x in 3 days so can't be that bad.  The photos are representative but remember the girls aren't there all the time.  Loads more with no photos on the website.  They do charge extra for some stuff which isn't always that easy to understand when you think its all in for the time slot.  Just ask up front & you'll get a straight answer

Offline adindas

Thanks for the info adindas.  I am a bit self conscious at the moment I think for these places.  But a definite for the future.  All this talk of the place has made me fancy a trip back to Berlin, my last visit was too short!  Lets see what cheap deals sleazyjet have on for Early Feb!

I just did search using  External Link/Members Only
If you are traveling from London, Ryan Air is currently having a big discount from London Stansted. You could get a return ticket as low as £50 in February.

About Artemis FKK in Berlin, people could easily get stunners here in the UK for the price they will be paying in Berlin FKK. So to me I do not see any point to travel miles away wasting time for traveling for the thing you could easily get it at home.

The party in Berlin is different is much better than the one here in the UK and there currently a lof of cheap ticket from the UK to get you there …..
« Last Edit: January 24, 2015, 08:30:46 am by adindas »

Offline Jerboa

I just did search using  External Link/Members Only
If you are traveling from London, Ryan Air is currently having a big discount from London Stansted. You could get a return ticket as low as £50 in February.

About Artemis FKK in Berlin, people could easily get stunners here in the UK for the price they will be paying in Berlin FKK. So to me I do not see any point to travel miles away wasting time for traveling for the thing you could easily get it at home.

The party in Berlin is different is much better than the one here in the UK and there currently a lof of cheap ticket from the UK to get you there …..

So How many stunning girls can you get in UK for €60=£45? ok you also have to pay entry, but if you're spending all day at a club and multiple sessions then there are few better choices, we don't travel to Germany particularly because it's cheaper to punt, even though at the moment with the weak €uro it is getting cheaper, but because of the sex infrastructure.

geek_lover

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Artemis  External Link/Members Only
Not flat rate - entry fee [per 24 hrs & you can leave then return] & then priced per 30 mins.  Think €60 or €80 - i can't remember.  But loads of girlies 40-50 & some absolute stunners amongst them.  Awesome place.  Nice & safe & you feel relaxed there.  And the girlies seem the same.  Proper lockers - the ones for valuables are highly visible by the reception area so nothing will get stolen.  Drinks aren't too expensive either.  Not a rip off type place.  Visited 3x in 3 days so can't be that bad.  The photos are representative but remember the girls aren't there all the time.  Loads more with no photos on the website.  They do charge extra for some stuff which isn't always that easy to understand when you think its all in for the time slot.  Just ask up front & you'll get a straight answer

I think next time I will throw a night in this place into the mix.

geek_lover

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I just did search using  External Link/Members Only
If you are traveling from London, Ryan Air is currently having a big discount from London Stansted. You could get a return ticket as low as £50 in February.

About Artemis FKK in Berlin, people could easily get stunners here in the UK for the price they will be paying in Berlin FKK. So to me I do not see any point to travel miles away wasting time for traveling for the thing you could easily get it at home.

The party in Berlin is different is much better than the one here in the UK and there currently a lof of cheap ticket from the UK to get you there …..

Cheers for the tip, will be booking today for February.

geek_lover

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So How many stunning girls can you get in UK for €60=£45? ok you also have to pay entry, but if you're spending all day at a club and multiple sessions then there are few better choices, we don't travel to Germany particularly because it's cheaper to punt, even though at the moment with the weak €uro it is getting cheaper, but because of the sex infrastructure.

Agreed.....

Whilst price isn't the only factor it is nice to get value for money.  The benefit of the flatrate/fkk/party for me is that you have all the WG's conveniently in one place.  No making bookings, no cancelled meetings, no traffic.  Have a punt, a drink then another punt etc etc and I have never moved more than a few feet.  If they had something like this in the UK I would be all over it.  For me, somedays I want stunners and other days I want to spend the day shagging as many different women as possible whilst having a few beers.

Offline Jerboa

Agreed.....

Whilst price isn't the only factor it is nice to get value for money.  The benefit of the flatrate/fkk/party for me is that you have all the WG's conveniently in one place.  No making bookings, no cancelled meetings, no traffic.  Have a punt, a drink then another punt etc etc and I have never moved more than a few feet.  If they had something like this in the UK I would be all over it.  For me, somedays I want stunners and other days I want to spend the day shagging as many different women as possible whilst having a few beers.

Yes I know what you mean, it's great just to relax in a lounge surrounded by 20 half naked girls, with no obligation to choose one that minute, unlike in UK where when you visit a brothel you're shown the girl(s) and are expected to choose straight away, or you will be thought of as a time waster or weird.

One club I've yet to visit that is at the top of my to do list is Bernds, just outside Bonn, it's actually the original fkk concept club, that other clubs have copied, girls only wear high heels and a smile, and it's open Montag to Freitag.

geek_lover

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That's right, it does seem more relaxed.  I would rather do this to be honest.  Might have to check out this other place, it sounds most interesting.

Online webpunter

Artemis etc
Each to their own - flat rate / punt as many as you can
Or over here picking out stunners on AW
But just to be able to rock up somewhere really pukka & have a selection of fit babes wandering around is tops for me.  Some of those not quite so absolutely good looking have a certain sexy way about them & you just know its going to be a fun time.  So perfect to mix it up a bit
Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.   Decisions - decisions
And not really that expensive when you add in the overall cost: travel / accomo / taxis / drinking.  What's an extra couple hundred euros on the charges for entry / time spent ?
If i go back i know where i'm heading
One of the WG's i met did some lezzer german porn films - will try & find on interweb & wazz up a link.. Truly stupendous rack

Offline Jerboa

Artemis etc
Each to their own - flat rate / punt as many as you can
Or over here picking out stunners on AW
But just to be able to rock up somewhere really pukka & have a selection of fit babes wandering around is tops for me.  Some of those not quite so absolutely good looking have a certain sexy way about them & you just know its going to be a fun time.  So perfect to mix it up a bit
Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.   Decisions - decisions
And not really that expensive when you add in the overall cost: travel / accomo / taxis / drinking.  What's an extra couple hundred euros on the charges for entry / time spent ?
If i go back i know where i'm heading
One of the WG's i met did some lezzer german porn films - will try & find on interweb & wazz up a link.. Truly stupendous rack

When you said stupendous rack I thought of Jenna, her tits must have their own Bundespost code!  :wacko:
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When you said stupendous rack I thought of Jenna, her tits must have their own Bundespost code!  :wacko:
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Fuck-me-sideways.  I'm sure that's her.  She must have had another boob job.  Think its her.  Platinum blonde bob.  She's a gym bunny - maybe a few "tramp stamps".  I thought at the time was that as an 'indie' in London she'd be way more dosh

Offline Macca74

Jenna has had another boob job. I haven't seen them in the flesh yet, but they look like an incredible feat of engineering. When she is in Artemis she is pretty much booked up the whole time, so she is making a minimum of €120 an hour for say a 12 hour day. What do you think she would be able to charge in London?

Online webpunter

Jenna has had another boob job. I haven't seen them in the flesh yet, but they look like an incredible feat of engineering. When she is in Artemis she is pretty much booked up the whole time, so she is making a minimum of €120 an hour for say a 12 hour day. What do you think she would be able to charge in London?
I thought she must have.  What you don't see in the pics is a flat tummy / fit legs.  A proper gym bunny.  To answer the question then i reckon 200/hr+.  I'd be in there like a flash.  As the costs of getting to Berlin add up

Offline Jerboa

Yes girls like Jenna could probably charge £200+ in London, they would have to pay expensive rent or hotels, and their phone might not be ringing much, don't be fooled the most popular girls at German saunaclubs are raking it in, they work at a popular club because they know they will get punter after punter, and only have to pay entry and the local state prossie tax.

Offline Macca74

True. Daily outgoings for a girl at Artemis would be €110. After an hour they're in profit. Safe, secure environment and constant turnover of clients make it a real money spinner for the top girls.

Offline adindas

So How many stunning girls can you get in UK for €60=£45? ok you also have to pay entry, but if you're spending all day at a club and multiple sessions then there are few better choices, we don't travel to Germany particularly because it's cheaper to punt, even though at the moment with the weak €uro it is getting cheaper, but because of the sex infrastructure.

Well, the ongoing rate for FKK Artemis is EUR 60 (e.g £45 currently) but this is just for 30 min. If you include the entrance fee of EUR 80 it is fair to say it is comparable to £50 for 30 min.

There are numerous number of young EE stunners in London are offering £50 for 30 min avilable on AW.
But I agree that people travel to Germany particularly because of much better sex industry infrastructure. Also the venue such as Artemis is good place to experience and to feel like a Sultan surrounded with harems. But If I just want to jerk with budget then I prefer London 1to1 or Annie porche or Erlebniswihnung.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2015, 01:24:55 pm by adindas »

geek_lover

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Right that's it, Berlin all booked.  Talking about it got a bit much and now I need to go back.  2 nights booked.  Will definitely have 1 in Caligula or King George and possibly the other in Artemis.  Cheers for the encouragement.  I plan to really let loose this time.....

Offline adindas

Thnaks you for the report.
You should also Try Erlenis Wohnung
External Link/Members Only

or Annie Porsche
External Link/Members Only

To enrich experience and varieties ....

I used to recommend both of them but I will not recommend EW anymore look at here the reason why ...
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=12038.msg692903#msg692903