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Offline big-al93

It doesn't matter how you word it, emailing a SP you've never met or spoken to suggesting to change their profile to reflect you, still comes across as demanding and unhinged

Emma, was this attention seeking fucktard actually trying to make a booking or simply protesting about how you wrote your profile???  :dash:
He clearly has mental health issues and cannot resist replying when he has said he won't.
Clearly he has self esteem /body issues that he probably projects within bookings which make SP's on edge, resulting in an unsatisfactory punt, confirming in his own mind that the issues are real.

Offline midspunter

Adjacent to this, there was a recent thread on the SAAFE forum with escorts discussing whether they have age limits. Almost none of them do and quite a few are more wary of men under 30 (inexperienced, more demanding) rather than put off by older men because of the ravages of time.

Also, would add my voice to those urging the OP to seek therapy. A little self love goes a long way.

Offline patelprat

Adjacent to this, there was a recent thread on the SAAFE forum with escorts discussing whether they have age limits. Almost none of them do and quite a few are more wary of men under 30 (inexperienced, more demanding) rather than put off by older men because of the ravages of time.

Also, would add my voice to those urging the OP to seek therapy. A little self love goes a long way.

we've been here before with the OP over the years - this is not the first time.


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Emma, was this attention seeking fucktard actually trying to make a booking or simply protesting about how you wrote your profile??? 

It would appear to be just random and not related to any booking? One wonders how many other profiles he has read and subsequently contacted in a similar way.

He mentions severe OCD in one post which would go a long way to explaining this bizarre obsession and behaviour. It also means that he will struggle to take on board much of the well meaning and logical advice being given to him.

I think we are now definitely at the stage of curtailing his input (? premod) as he clearly cannot stop posting and also others should stop responding. The latter is likely futile.

Offline MLawro93

The messages just prove that even before entering the door, his outlook is negative. To the SPs he will immediately come across as difficult and unhinged, so if he gets an impression of them being on edge, surely he can only blame himself. Not his appearance, his attitude, is what is causing the issue.

SPs are professional, they don't care if you're ugly or the sexiest man alive. Their livelihood depends on giving everyone that enters through their door the same service.

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It would appear to be just random and not related to any booking? One wonders how many other profiles he has read and subsequently contacted in a similar way.

He mentions severe OCD in one post which would go a long way to explaining this bizarre obsession and behaviour. It also means that he will struggle to take on board much of the well meaning and logical advice being given to him.

I think we are now definitely at the stage of curtailing his input (? premod) as he clearly cannot stop posting and also others should stop responding. The latter is likely futile.

I agree. He's been advised to reflect on his state of mind countless times in the past and even more times over the last few days across multiple threads. However, his myopic view of the world is just dragging him down. On top of his response to Kasia Ann's AW feedback on him, messaging a SP out of the blue with that profile change request is quite extraordinary. Unhinged certainly covers it.

Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he's not attention seeking nor a troll, I fear for what happens next. He's not listening to a very broad consensus of opinion, just digging himself deeper. He keeps saying he'll stop posting but he can't help himself. A ban of some sort might give him some breathing space but unless he wants to get help, nothing will change.

Online john122350

I requested in the most polite way that you ‘kindly change your services tab’. I DID NOT DEMAND IT. Please see a copy of that text.

I am ugly but I am not rude or ill mannered. You just accused me of being ill mannered and threatening. Please read the last paragraph and see if I ‘demanded’ you in any way.

Please don’t portray me as a nasty person in a public forum.

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The problem isn't the wording on her profile. The problem is that you've already decided you know what every woman thinks about you before they've had a chance to decide for themselves.

Her profile says she enjoys kissing. You immediately translated that into "she couldn't possibly mean someone like me."

That's not evidence. That's an assumption based on your own negative self-image. You call yourself ugly in almost every post, but repeating a belief doesn't make it objectively true. It just means you've become very attached to that belief.

Many people have told you that age, baldness, ethnicity and appearance are not the only factors that determine how others respond to someone. Yet every discussion seems to end with the same conclusion: "it must be because I'm ugly."

At some point, you have to consider whether the biggest obstacle is not your appearance but the fact that you've convinced yourself that your appearance explains everything.

Offline Smeagol.FX

IQ, I've only been on the forum proper for a few months but if you are still kicking around here somewhere, maybe just give this up and try a different hobby. It's insane how you've shot into my radar so quickly, unless you are trolling both the punters and the SP's for a laugh. You just can't hack it and the only attention you receive here is further solidifying an identity of being unwanted. I'm sure in real life there's girls who perform better based on all sorts of variables, but in the world of SP's? Not the right question, when it relies so heavily on consistency. Take whatever money you have and dedicate it to methods that help you to stop hating your reflection. It's really the only thing you can do. And ignore the glaze everyone gives to themselves, we all have to hype ourselves up and it makes for better reading, maybe you'd enjoy the hobby more if you did too.

I'll even quit with you :rose:

Offline Snagbadjer

This IQ chap is quite clearly a fantasist having a laugh. Surprised no one can see it lol.

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If we’re talking about uglies having to pay more can it not be arranged that some of that money be to be used to offer senior citizen rates, maybe on certain days of the week, or certain times of the day ?

Asking for the old boy upstairs.

Offline Snagbadjer

If we’re talking about uglies having to pay more can it not be arranged that some of that money be to be used to offer senior citizen rates, maybe on certain days of the week, or certain times of the day ?

Asking for the old boy upstairs.

The SPs won't swing for that given the extra physical effort required on their part to wank off those old flaccid ED peckers.

Offline Thephoenix

The SPs won't swing for that given the extra physical effort required on their part to wank off those old flaccid ED peckers.

I beg your pardon!
I resemble that remark!

Offline webpunter

Assuming a facial disfigurement is seen as a disability, try this service External Link/Members Only
Please note there are various agencies that provide services specifically for disabled people. They usually charge more, dealing with colostomy bags, or someone with a nervous tick probably requires additional skills.
Please note the advice I was given by an escort years ago was be clean, polite and do NOT haggle.
It’s been good advice.

A very good point Sir
Its not just facial stuff what about other injuries
If these weren't enough of a problem for everyday life then when it comes to paid for activities people will feel on the back foot
On the basis that hookering as well as being the world's oldest profession is global there will be hundreds of thousands of relatively young virile men who have suffered horrific injuries be they Russian or Ukrainian
Assuming they didn't have their bollocks blown off they'll have the same desires & not a lot of confidence to get into the civvy market so paid for provides at least an outlet
Wise words on the advice given out :hi:

Offline webpunter

Airlines have various surcharges

In contrast to my post ⬆️
In the US they charge fat fuckers for two seats
Coz they cant fit into one
Loads of obesity there
I don't wanna be sitting on the same row of seats [or in front] as them coz if a big accident the chances of the seats shearing off escalate
& chances of surviving diminish
There are choices stop scoffing & don't be a fat ****
You gotta feel for SPs presented with a fat punter & charging more fair enuf
Peter Stringfellow banned fat burds from his night clubs on the basis that they sweat loads & punters will be the same


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In contrast to my post ⬆️
In the US they charge fat fuckers for two seats
Coz they cant fit into one
Loads of obesity there
I don't wanna be sitting on the same row of seats [or in front] as them coz if a big accident the chances of the seats shearing off escalate
& chances of surviving diminish
There are choices stop scoffing & don't be a fat ****
You gotta feel for SPs presented with a fat punter & charging more fair enuf
Peter Stringfellow banned fat burds from his night clubs on the basis that they sweat loads & punters will be the same

Actually much larger bodies can often be much easier, and sweating is not necessarily related to body size - certainly in my experience.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2026, 09:02:44 am by Strawberry »

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Bonkers thread.

There must be handsome men all over the forum then as DFK is regularly reported in many reviews everyday.

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I requested in the most polite way that you ‘kindly change your services tab’. I DID NOT DEMAND IT. Please see a copy of that text.

I am ugly but I am not rude or ill mannered. You just accused me of being ill mannered and threatening. Please read the last paragraph and see if I ‘demanded’ you in any way.

Please don’t portray me as a nasty person in a public forum.

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Lol this is an absolutely bizarre thing to email an escort who you've never seen before.

How else is she meant to react to this? When this is how she sees kissing. Asking her to change it, politely or not when she's never seen you is rude. However way you say it.

The non white Asian man part is a silly thing to say too.

You should've booked her normally and you've would've seen that her comment how she sees kissing is spot on. (Saw her recently)
« Last Edit: June 09, 2026, 11:34:59 am by JonasG »

Offline Snagbadjer

Actually much larger bodies can often be much easier, and sweating is not necessarily related to body size - certainly in my experience.

Larger bodies? You mean fat people?

Offline Snagbadjer

In contrast to my post ⬆️
In the US they charge fat fuckers for two seats
Coz they cant fit into one
Loads of obesity there
I don't wanna be sitting on the same row of seats [or in front] as them coz if a big accident the chances of the seats shearing off escalate
& chances of surviving diminish
There are choices stop scoffing & don't be a fat ****
You gotta feel for SPs presented with a fat punter & charging more fair enuf
Peter Stringfellow banned fat burds from his night clubs on the basis that they sweat loads & punters will be the same

It's a disease, mate. Can't be helped. They have a genetic predisposition to guzzling pies and alas have no free will over their actions.

Offline patelprat

Actually much larger bodies can often be much easier, and sweating is not necessarily related to body size - certainly in my experience.

how so? because they can't move or fuck as much?  :D


Offline webpunter

It's a disease, mate. Can't be helped. They have a genetic predisposition to guzzling pies and alas have no free will over their actions.

Ricky Hatton [RIP] said he had a problem with his legs
He couldn't walk past a chip shop
Brilliant  :lol:

Offline Snagbadjer

Ricky Hatton [RIP] said he had a problem with his legs
He couldn't walk past a chip shop
Brilliant  :lol:

RIP HITMAN. He loved his grub.

Offline Snagbadjer

how so? because they can't move or fuck as much?  :D

Their big bones soak up the juices and their underactive thyroids store the sweat like a pouch.

Offline webpunter

how so? because they can't move or fuck as much?  :D

More sedentary & more importantly they are just grateful

I'm partial to curvy burds especially on massage stuff when they are skilled, sublime the feeling can be wonderful

However when it comes to RO not the case i dont bother & often probably not on their likes anyways a win win

A inviting thigh gap on a fittie gives me the right horn crucially plenty of ventilation

It works both ways & sweat on a showered fit body is a turn on

Someone sweating coz its hot or walking up stairs [par example] the opposite


Offline webpunter

RIP HITMAN. He loved his grub.

He said it so matter of fact which made it all the funnier
What a following tens of thousands of the mouser army making their way to Vegas

Offline patelprat

More sedentary & more importantly they are just grateful

Easy money for the SP if all the dude can do is just lie there. So long as she always stays on top  :D

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how so? because they can't move or fuck as much?  :D

The logistics mean it's easier & more successful if they lie back, let the SP work around them. Ability to squat helps, cowgirl & reverse cowgirl and or oral/69 with the SP on top.

Offline Thephoenix

He said it so matter of fact which made it all the funnier
What a following tens of thousands of the mouser army making their way to Vegas

????

He was a 'Manc'  :unknown:  :lol:

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The logistics mean it's easier & more successful if they lie back, let the SP work around them. Ability to squat helps, cowgirl & reverse cowgirl and or oral/69 with the SP on top.

Also adipose tissue can obscure some of the penis.

As an SP the experience is much softer than a lean bean leaping around with a raging, large hard on.

But not all lean beans are like this, humans are usually the combination of a collection of circumstances.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2026, 07:43:16 am by Strawberry »

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The logistics mean it's easier & more successful if they lie back, let the SP work around them. Ability to squat helps, cowgirl & reverse cowgirl and or oral/69 with the SP on top.

Also adipose tissue can obscure some of the penis.

As an SP the experience is much softer than a lean bean leaping around with a raging, large hard on.

But not all lean beans are like this, humans are usually the combination of a collection of circumstances.

I never considered this perspective, thanks for sharing.

So long as big, heavy men don't go on top, I guess you're safe  :D

« Last Edit: June 10, 2026, 11:30:39 am by patelprat »

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I never considered this perspective, thanks for sharing.

So long as big, heavy men don't go on top, I guess you're safe  :D

Depends on whether they can hold their own bodyweight, and this is often once again not related to actual body weight - some slimmer and very slim men cannot seem to support themselves. Also depends what you mean by safe, if the abdomen is very large the penis is very unlikely to penetrate, if you mean sheer body weight possibly. I have been half suffocated by a moderate belly pushing himself down onto my face, grinding down so hard the bones in my face ached whilst I was underneath in 69.

Also a moderate build person remains the only punter to break a bed of mine - more or less took a running jump at the bed. There was an audible breaking noise "It's not broken" he insisted, that broken piece of wood worked it's way into an awkward position, it was definitely broken although the bed remained useable. Another sat on a sea grass chest not designed for anyone to sit on. Well not unless you are the size of a tortoise or kitten. It could be argued a much larger bodied person might not do the running jump leap, might be more considerate aware of their impact.

Sometimes sex drive disappears in a huge body, similar to that in a very thin or superlean person.

This said I have had some difficult larger body clients, but this was more about their personality, attitude & rudeness. To generalise and lump everyone into a bracket based on bodytype/shape/weight I think is not fair.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2026, 12:27:17 pm by Strawberry »

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This said I have had some difficult larger body clients, but this was more about their personality, attitude & rudeness. To generalise and lump everyone into a bracket based on bodytype/shape/weight I think is not fair.


Very true, I am of average size, not fat or thin as the saying goes. I think PP is a bodybuilder type of bloke, maybe he gets a kick out humiliating larger people who knows  :unknown:

Regardless of body size, male or female, its about how you go about the fun and there is always a workable solution  :hi:

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The logistics mean it's easier & more successful if they lie back, let the SP work around them. Ability to squat helps, cowgirl & reverse cowgirl and or oral/69 with the SP on top.

Also adipose tissue can obscure some of the penis.

As an SP the experience is much softer than a lean bean leaping around with a raging, large hard on.

But not all lean beans are like this, humans are usually the combination of a collection of circumstances.

I recall attending a party where one punter, having apparently arrived late, entered one of the bedrooms.  He was enormously rotund. In due course he removed his clothes. He got on the bed with some degree of difficulty and everyone gave him space .. perhaps afraid of either being crushed or the bed collapsing, or both. He just lay on his back saying nothing. An SP joined him and went to work on his appendage.

It grew and grew in length and girth until there was a tree trunk on display. There was something of an unusual and atypical voyeuristic silence in the room as she worked on him. Another SP standing next to me turned and said 'no chance' and left the room.

The one on the bed excused herself saying she needed the loo and would be back shortly. Instead she went to find a willing volunteer. The latter arrived with more voyeurs in tow and with a litre of lube. The challenge was not just accomodating his erection but being able to straddle him given how wide he was. Fortunately she was quite tall and had much longer legs than the others. All was well in the end, but I really could not envisage any position other than him on his back.

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Very true, I am of average size, not fat or thin as the saying goes. I think PP is a bodybuilder type of bloke, maybe he gets a kick out humiliating larger people who knows  :unknown:

Regardless of body size, male or female, its about how you go about the fun and there is always a workable solution  :hi:

Being repulsed by obesity is not the same thing as trying to humiliate obese people.

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Being repulsed by obesity is not the same thing as trying to humiliate obese people.

Quite right two totally different things.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2026, 03:10:26 pm by finn5555 »


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Also adipose tissue can obscure some of the penis.

As an SP the experience is much softer than a lean bean leaping around with a raging, large hard on.

But not all lean beans are like this, humans are usually the combination of a collection of circumstances.

I just had a look on goggle
Hidden penis syndrome
 :vomit:
The fat fuckers probably only see their knobs in a mirror
Layers of fat = betty swollocks
Surprised SPs dont give them their marching orders off you fuck

As for a lean bean rager a bluey helps
& manscaping helps make it look even bigger  :yahoo:
Leaping around means energetic

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I just had a look on goggle
Hidden penis syndrome
 :vomit:
The fat fuckers probably only see their knobs in a mirror
Layers of fat = betty swollocks
Surprised SPs dont give them their marching orders off you fuck

As for a lean bean rager a bluey helps
& manscaping helps make it look even bigger  :yahoo:
Leaping around means energetic

Haha. Roll them in dough and look for the wet spot!

SPs can be a bit fussy, can't they? Fatties turn them off (understandable); but then they get pissed off with fit guys like me who can fuck for 30 mins straight. Maybe they want a quick-cumming Adonis who just lies there, tips heavily, and leaves early.

Offline Thephoenix

Haha. Roll them in dough and look for the wet spot!

SPs can be a bit fussy, can't they? Fatties turn them off (understandable); but then they get pissed off with fit guys like me who can fuck for 30 mins straight. Maybe they want a quick-cumming Adonis who just lies there, tips heavily, and leaves early.

....or a quick cumming panda, who eats shoots and leaves.

Offline webpunter

Haha. Roll them in dough and look for the wet spot!

SPs can be a bit fussy, can't they? Fatties turn them off (understandable); but then they get pissed off with fit guys like me who can fuck for 30 mins straight. Maybe they want a quick-cumming Adonis who just lies there, tips heavily, and leaves early.

A McDougalls burd

SPs indeed can be
Some of it down to good / bad luck catching them in the mood or not

Then there are some south americans who get right into [good girls]
If sex were an olympic sport they'd win gold medals all the time

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A McDougalls burd

SPs indeed can be
Some of it down to good / bad luck catching them in the mood or not

Then there are some south americans who get right into [good girls]
If sex were an olympic sport they'd win gold medals all the time

Brazilians are without doubt the best punts I've had overall. When they're into you it's pure bliss.

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Brazilians are without doubt the best punts I've had overall. When they're into you it's pure bliss.
 
so you like being topped by Brazilians?    :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Brazilians are without doubt the best punts I've had overall. When they're into you it's pure bliss.

You clearly love sucking Brazilian cock fair play  :lol:

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Brazilians are without doubt the best punts I've had overall. When they're into you it's pure bliss.

 :rolleyes: Been there done that  ;) What I just can not understand is why if blessed with a 9 inch wand that the one I saw wanted to lose it  :unknown:

It was both the most uncomfortable  :scare:  experience and erotic when I topped them in mish and was able to hold their tits and managed to suck it at the same time

 :scare: ( also most costly and time consuming for a 1hr to arrange then meet up  about 2 years ago now)
 :hi:

Offline mr.bluesky

 Instead of surcharge for  ugly clients What about discounts for us extremely handsome chaps  :rolleyes:
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You clearly love sucking Brazilian cock fair play  :lol:

Brazilian females. I prefer Thais when it comes to TSs. Brothers you, doesn't it?

Offline Snagbadjer

You clearly love sucking Brazilian cock fair play  :lol:

I clearly got to you in that other thread lol. Bless, you need to have a sly dig. Feel a bit better now, child?

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Instead of surcharge for  ugly clients What about discounts for us extremely handsome chaps  :rolleyes:

I was wondering about getting myself a Don Johnson or Magnum mask I dont think I can pull off the Danny D vibe for the discount code  :D :D

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I was wondering about getting myself a Don Johnson or Magnum mask I dont think I can pull off the Danny D vibe for the discount code  :D :D

Devito ?