The 2026/27 Football Season

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Corrected it for you webbie 

Quality 
You might finish 2nd
From the ....

[mr.bluesky]

Quality 
You might finish 2nd
From the ....

You might be right 

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Bottom three to be relegated :-


Newcastle
Hull
Coventry

[Iamforreal]

Bottom three to be relegated :-


Newcastle
Hull
Coventry

That's a big shout 

[timsussex]

Bottom three to be relegated :-


Newcastle
Hull
Coventry

If Newcastle lose another top player (Hall/Tino/Guimares/Tonali) and/or have another dreadful transfer window you could be right

[mr.bluesky]

Bottom three to be relegated :-


Newcastle
Hull
Coventry

Nah, we'll finish above Hull and Ipswich just need to find some one else to finish above.

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Bottom three to be relegated :-


Newcastle
Hull
Coventry

What a tinker you are 

I'll take that Bell End not on the list

[timsussex]

Leeds United are considering taking legal action against Leicester City in the wake of Burnley’s landmark compensation victory over Everton.
Leeds are now exploring how Leicester’s PSR issues affected two of their own seasons. The first is 2022-23, when both Leeds and Leicester were relegated, and then 2023-24, when Leicester gained automatic promotion back to the top flight and Leeds lost in the play-offs.

[mr.bluesky]

Leeds United are considering taking legal action against Leicester City in the wake of Burnley’s landmark compensation victory over Everton.
Leeds are now exploring how Leicester’s PSR issues affected two of their own seasons. The first is 2022-23, when both Leeds and Leicester were relegated, and then 2023-24, when Leicester gained automatic promotion back to the top flight and Leeds lost in the play-offs.

It's getting ridiculous now if they do, meanwhile the 115 charges Man City face are continually being swept under the carpet.

[Jumping Jack Flash]

I think they should introduce a ruling whereby once a season is finished that’s it; no future claims because of overspending etc. if Leeds were relegated alongside Leicester how have Leicester received a competitive advantage by being relegated alongside them? These cases will set a very dangerous precedent.

It’s like arguing with a woman, men tend to argue in the here and now whereas a woman will refer to something that you did/spent/said in January 2021.

[Jumping Jack Flash]

It's getting ridiculous now if they do, meanwhile the 115 charges Mancheater City face are continually being swept under the carpet.

Fixed that for you

[Blackpool Rock]

I think they should introduce a ruling whereby once a season is finished that’s it; no future claims because of overspending etc. if Leeds were relegated alongside Leicester how have Leicester received a competitive advantage by being relegated alongside them? These cases will set a very dangerous precedent.

It’s like arguing with a woman, men tend to argue in the here and now whereas a woman will refer to something that you did/spent/said in January 2021.

And then some 

[Vice Admiral]

Leeds United are considering taking legal action against Leicester City in the wake of Burnley’s landmark compensation victory over Everton.
Leeds are now exploring how Leicester’s PSR issues affected two of their own seasons. The first is 2022-23, when both Leeds and Leicester were relegated, and then 2023-24, when Leicester gained automatic promotion back to the top flight and Leeds lost in the play-offs.

It's getting to the point where Mr Justice Cocklecarrot will be regularly determining the final configuration of the Premier League table.  But it's better than penalty shoot-outs, I guess.

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Leeds United are considering taking legal action against Leicester City in the wake of Burnley’s landmark compensation victory over Everton.
Leeds are now exploring how Leicester’s PSR issues affected two of their own seasons. The first is 2022-23, when both Leeds and Leicester were relegated, and then 2023-24, when Leicester gained automatic promotion back to the top flight and Leeds lost in the play-offs.

Worth a go
They reached an out of court settlement with the cheating Everton
In relation to the ££ dished out by the Prem
Think its £2.0m - £2.5m per place
I'm assuming Everton coughed up as settled

The cheating Leicester exploited loopholes between The Championship 'TC' & the PL to avoid financial penalties points deduction back then
Bring them to account
They are in a perilous financial situation dropping to League 1 [a huge difference to TC]
Leeds going for a big claim - yes please - could put them into Administration
& a 15 points / thereabout deduction
League 2 beckons ?
Really hope so & Leeds get some dosh for transfers
A win win

MOT

[john122350]

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Reliable source the athletic

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One factor behind the deficit is paying bonuses for promotion
Its quite an easy fix players defer receipt of the bonuses until the start of July
They can sell a player at a profit with an agreement to buy the same player back again in July
A minor amount of financial tinkering
Nothing in the grand scheme of things
One of the difficulties of smaller sides in the Championship trying to get promoted despite the financial challenges
No doubt the old farts at the PL will see Hull as a soft easy target

Yet they allow financial manipulation by Chelsea
The hotel fiddle & as for valuing the women team at £200m they may well have got to the right figure
However the womens team is more likely worth -£200m [low income & mounting losses] rather than a fanciful +£200m
The £200m valuation is supposedly based on future income growth as if this wlll ever happen 
The £200m bollox is a made up £20m sale of 10% to the owner of Reddit in a wokey display
Would love to know if there are hidden guarantees provided by Chelsea / other inducements ?

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[john122350]

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[Blackpool Rock]

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Wonder if he'll be as shit as the other players they nicked off of Newcastle 

[mr.bluesky]

One factor behind the deficit is paying bonuses for promotion
Its quite an easy fix players defer receipt of the bonuses until the start of July
They can sell a player at a profit with an agreement to buy the same player back again in July
A minor amount of financial tinkering
Nothing in the grand scheme of things
One of the difficulties of smaller sides in the Championship trying to get promoted despite the financial challenges
No doubt the old farts at the PL will see Hull as a soft easy target

Yet they allow financial manipulation by Chelsea
The hotel fiddle & as for valuing the women team at £200m they may well have got to the right figure
However the womens team is more likely worth -£200m [low income & mounting losses] rather than a fanciful +£200m
The £200m valuation is supposedly based on future income growth as if this wlll ever happen 
The £200m bollox is a made up £20m sale of 10% to the owner of Reddit in a wokey display
Would love to know if there are hidden guarantees provided by Chelsea / other inducements ?

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As you rightly point out webbie it seems like they like to clobber the "smaller" Premier league clubs where as Chelsea and you know who get away scott free. At least if Hull City get a six point deduction that means Coventry will have a bit of leeway in trying to keep out the bottom three . Just need a few point deductions for a few more other teams to help our cause in stopping up  Seriously though I hope Hull City aren't clobbered with a points deduction. The league should be decided by performances on the pitch not petty rules that are applied to some clubs and not others . 

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As you rightly point out webbie it seems like they like to clobber the "smaller" Premier league clubs where as Chelsea and you know who get away scott free. At least if Hull City get a six point deduction that means Coventry will have a bit of leeway in trying to keep out the bottom three . Just need a few point deductions for a few more other teams to help our cause in stopping up  Seriously though I hope Hull City aren't clobbered with a points deduction. The league should be decided by performances on the pitch not petty rules that are applied to some clubs and not others . 

A bit of leeway keeping Cov off the bottom place ? 

Leeds & Sunderland broke the three up three down cycle which was perpetuating itself
The promoted clubs at a disadvantage with the financial regulations the way these are set up
The PL like to preserve the status quo
Whether both these clubs can stay up again remains to be seen

Even more of a challenge for Cov & Hull to somehow survive smaller stadiums crowds less income for the financial regulations
& lack of access to funds for investment even if they can meet the regulations

Turnover to June 2025 for these clubs £34m & £26m respectively
This will increase to June 2026 & more so this coming season to June 2027
Even so how can they ever be expected to even try to survive when Chelsea are gifted £60m+ through selling a hotel they already owned ?
& even more laughably a £200m windfall for their wendy ball virtue signalling bollox ??
Just coz someone buys 10% for £20m doesn't mean that the other 90% is worth £180m [well not unless its -£180m]

The PL were all over Newcastle for their sponsorship deals encouraged by the top clubs who were shitting themselves at the prospect of their cartel being unsettled by Saudi riches
Like really all over them fair market value investigations
Yet they green light Chelsea

IMO the Chelsea WSL deal should face the same [intense] level of scrutiny as Newcastle
Is Chelsea WSL really worth £200m ?
Don't be silly
Of course the PL won't go anywhere near this as they want to be seen to be promoting the WSL & wimin's footy
At least SirJR told the truth NFI in the Utd womens team

Thats enuf of a rant for today
Back to Hull
If they decide to hit Hull with a 6 point deduction this means they will be effectively relegated before the season even starts
Nothing like fair competition 

[mr.bluesky]

Premier league fixtures released today and for the first time in 25 years I'll have an interest in them 

[mr.bluesky]

Premier league fixtures released today and for the first time in 25 years I'll have an interest in them 

Coventry's first fixture away to Arsenal ,the Premier league champions against the Championship champions. Oh well ,I guess if you're going to play the Premier league champions the first game is as good as any before they get into thier stride 
Next away game away to Manchester City the clash of the sky blues  nothing like giving us an easy start to the season.

[john122350]

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[Jumping Jack Flash]

Promoted sides never get an easy start in the PL, I’m sure that’s merely a coincidence.

[Thephoenix]

Coventry's first fixture away to Arsenal ,the Premier league champions against the Championship champions. Oh well ,I guess if you're going to play the Premier league champions the first game is as good as any before they get into thier stride 
Next away game away to Manchester City the clash of the sky blues  nothing like giving us an easy start to the season.

Just get stuck in!

They don't like it up 'em!

[Blackpool Rock]

Coventry's first fixture away to Arsenal ,the Premier league champions against the Championship champions. Oh well ,I guess if you're going to play the Premier league champions the first game is as good as any before they get into thier stride 
Next away game away to Manchester City the clash of the sky blues  nothing like giving us an easy start to the season.

You have to play everyone home and away and as you say IMO it's better to play your hardest games 1st as often the top sides haven't got into their stride 

[Blackpool Rock]

Promoted sides never get an easy start in the PL, I’m sure that’s merely a coincidence.

I'm not sure how the fixtures are actually decided though, I worked with an Arsenal fan 30 years ago when Coventry were in the top flight and he said that it's very often the opening fixture

Given the above then I was of the impression that the fixture list was generated by some sort of Alphabetical order of the teams so Arsenal is 1st in the list and if drawn at home for the 1st game will play for instance 4th in the list which is likely to be Coventry if they are in the same league however i've found this albeit a year old and they claim it's all random with some adjustments to make sure both Manchester clubs / both Liverpool clubs don't play at home in the same fixture date

Also travel demands are factored in to make sure you don't have to travel too far on boxing day or new years day etc but i'm sure Davie will contest this as he's made comments previously about Toon fans having to travel to the South coast etc for a 8pm kick off mid week etc and also how they've been shafted in the festive games for travel

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[mr.bluesky]

You have to play everyone home and away and as you say IMO it's better to play your hardest games 1st as often the top sides haven't got into their stride 

Exactly 

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I'm glad Aston Villa have cleared that up, I'd never have guessed we play each team home and away, who'd of thought. 

[Blackpool Rock]

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I'm glad Aston Villa have cleared that up, I'd never have guessed we play each team home and away, who'd of thought. 

I'm just waiting for the Man Utd fans to start complaining that this is "Not Fair"   

[mr.bluesky]

I'm not sure how the fixtures are actually decided though, I worked with an Arsenal fan 30 years ago when Coventry were in the top flight and he said that it's very often the opening fixture

Given the above then I was of the impression that the fixture list was generated by some sort of Alphabetical order of the teams so Arsenal is 1st in the list and if drawn at home for the 1st game will play for instance 4th in the list which is likely to be Coventry if they are in the same league however i've found this albeit a year old and they claim it's all random with some adjustments to make sure both Manchester clubs / both Liverpool clubs don't play at home in the same fixture date

Also travel demands are factored in to make sure you don't have to travel too far on boxing day or new years day etc but i'm sure Davie will contest this as he's made comments previously about Toon fans having to travel to the South coast etc for a 8pm kick off mid week etc and also how they've been shafted in the festive games for travel

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Boxing day fixtures always used to be local derbys. It would make sense for Coventry to be playing Aston Villa on boxing day instead we are playing Chelsea. Mind you they will probably fly up from London and land at nearby Birmingham airport and a fifteen minute coach ride to Coventry 

[timsussex]

While of course its true that you have to play everyone twice I'm not so sure that paling the strongest teams first is  a good idea.
The old adage about winning becoming a habit applies to losing too, having zero points after 3 or 4 games can make players anxious, then every game against 'weaker teams' becomes a 6 pointer

Last season Sunderland started well and it set them up

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Boxing day fixtures always used to be local derbys. It would make sense for Coventry to be playing Aston Villa on boxing day instead we are playing Chelsea. Mind you they will probably fly up from London and land at nearby Birmingham airport and a fifteen minute coach ride to Coventry 

Boxing day & also the New Years Day matches
Makes sense when limited public transport
The blazers at the PL dont give a monkeys about fans its all about ££ hence TV coverage priorities

Edit: I would have thought that Chelsea would travel in a PJ
Had a look see where there are airports for these & Coventry airport is closing to become a giga battery manufacturing set up 

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Seems new Newcastle have become a selling club. Spurs must have offered him a very lucrative contract with no CL football. Otherwise why leave Newcastle for Sours?    Lewis Hall could be next





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[Blackpool Rock]

Seems new Newcastle have become a selling club. Spurs must have offered him a very lucrative contract with no CL football. Otherwise why leave Newcastle?





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Going to Spurs seems like a gamble but then again he likes that 

[MLawro93]

Going to Spurs seems like a gamble but then again he likes that 

Pretty sure Newcastle need to sell. Spurs seemed determined to back RDZ, so expect them to spend big this summer. Historically though, they tend to spend badly, so we shall see 

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Pretty sure Newcastle need to sell. Spurs seemed determined to back RDZ, so expect them to spend big this summer. Historically though, they tend to spend badly, so we shall see 

If Tonali wants to leave make an effort to keep him & if that doesnt work sell him
& build into the price however long it was that he was banned from playing
Newcastle supported him other clubs may have taken a different approach & now as he wants out its time for payback
Where Tonali wants to go is irrelevant which club will pay the most
Upfront

So you are pretty sure
What makes you think this ?
Just a few people at St.JP will know what position the club are in to comply with the protectionist SCR
What sales are needed combined with purchases
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If it wasn't for the business / sector being footy there would be a very reasonable argument that the PL are operating a protectionist cartel
& a selective one too
Target & fine the smaller clubs points deductions etc [Everton & Forest] easy targets flexing their muscles in a show of strength
Avoiding the elephants in the room like they don't exist 

As an analogy IMO the PL present as a batty-boy punter
The punters like to get taken up the gary
& the PL are so weak & spineless they too get done
By Chelsea & especially City
At the same time the PL concoct a one sided set of rules & regulations
Penalizing restricting the likes of Newcastle & Villa
A nod to their favourite 'customers'

Message to the PL = dont forget to give your impression of power a refresh & punish Hull with a points deduction
Relegate them b4 the season has started 
You bunch of dinosaur cunts off you fuck

PS nearly forgot thanks to the PL to make it as difficult as possible for non parachute supported clubs get promoted
They do like the 3up & 3down continuim
Leeds went up after after like 15 years ok they might have had remnants after two years in The Championship to go back up

Apologies from The Stadium of Light & Bell End Road for having the temerity to not go straight back down

[MLawro93]

If Tonali wants to leave make an effort to keep him & if that doesnt work sell him
& build into the price however long it was that he was banned from playing
Newcastle supported him other clubs may have taken a different approach & now as he wants out its time for payback
Where Tonali wants to go is irrelevant which club will pay the most
Upfront

So you are pretty sure
What makes you think this ?
Just a few people at St.JP will know what position the club are in to comply with the protectionist SCR
What sales are needed combined with purchases
Please expand

I thought Newcastle were one of the clubs constrained by PSR, I forgot the league was moving to a new system. I take back what I say about them having to sell

I guess they'll sell whether the price is right for them, 100 million should do it. Going off all the speculation at the minute that is

[daviemac]

Seems new Newcastle have become a selling club. Spurs must have offered him a very lucrative contract with no CL football. Otherwise why leave Newcastle for Sours?    Lewis Hall could be next

Newcastle are in a position of having to sell due to PSR and other financial restrictions that were brought in after we were taken over.

We don't have the free reign to spend multi millions that other clubs had to get them where they are. We can't even have a sponsor pay what they want, it has to be what someone thinks is 'fair market value'. Sponsorship from associated companies is restricted as well.

Lewis Hall and Tino Livramento are another two who are rumoured to be on the move, but who knows.

Man City have had 115 charges against them for 3 years and nothing's been done, Chelsea were allowed to sell their women's team to themselves and two hotels to the same company who own them. So much for the associated companies rule.

Meanwhile 'lesser clubs' get hammered, no 3 year wait for Everton being fined, then there's Nottingham Forest and Hull.

Newcastle would get a points deduction if they spent too much on biscuits so that's why we have to sell.

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I thought Newcastle were one of the clubs constrained by PSR, I forgot the league was moving to a new system. I take back what I say about them having to sell

I guess they'll sell whether the price is right for them, 100 million should do it. Going off all the speculation at the minute that is

PSR SCR like there's any difference - what planet are you on ?

[timsussex]

Along with politicians and estate agents I believe the world would be a better place without football agents

I'm sure a lot of these transfers especially where clubs dont want to sell are initiated by agents touting them to other clubs 

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Newcastle are in a position of having to sell due to PSR and other financial restrictions that were brought in after we were taken over.

We don't have the free reign to spend multi millions that other clubs had to get them where they are. We can't even have a sponsor pay what they want, it has to be what someone thinks is 'fair market value'. Sponsorship from associated companies is restricted as well.

Lewis Hall and Tino Livramento are another two who are rumoured to be on the move, but who knows.

Man City have had 115 charges against them for 3 years and nothing's been done, Chelsea were allowed to sell their women's team to themselves and two hotels to the same company who own them. So much for the associated companies rule.

Meanwhile 'lesser clubs' get hammered, no 3 year wait for Everton being fined, then there's Nottingham Forest and Hull.

Newcastle would get a points deduction if they spent too much on biscuits so that's why we have to sell.

Livramento is a good player but should never have been selected with his injury record for England. I cannot see any club showing interest in buying him with his injury.

[MLawro93]

PSR SCR like there's any difference - what planet are you on ?

PSR looks at a club's whole finances over three years and caps losses at £105m. SCR (coming in 2026/27) only looks at squad spending and caps it at 85% of football revenue. So PSR asks "did you lose too much overall?" while SCR asks "are you spending too much on players this season?" SCR's also checked in real time rather than after the fact. 

[john122350]

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They'll eventually agree a fee before another club swoops in having let Spurs do the work for them 

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PSR looks at a club's whole finances over three years and caps losses at £105m. SCR (coming in 2026/27) only looks at squad spending and caps it at 85% of football revenue. So PSR asks "did you lose too much overall?" while SCR asks "are you spending too much on players this season?" SCR's also checked in real time rather than after the fact. 

Indeed
However clubs like Newcastle & Villa are pegged back c.f. 'big' clubs as it takes time to grow their income
There is no financial risk with Newcastle investing in whatever they choose to
The PL want to avoid clubs facing financial difficulties not meeting transfer fees o/s & creditors, which is fair enuf
IMO clubs should be able to invest as they choose to try to catch up
As long as there is no financial risk
So sufficient funds are put on deposit held by the PL to cover all liabilities
Of course this is the last thing that the big clubs want its a risk to their protected positions
So Newcastle dont get european footy in 26-27 so there is a dip in income [especially with no CL] which means that adjustments to the squad sales need to be generated
PSR & now SCR protects the big clubs & this isnt gonna change
Whether the likes of Utd with huge T/O generate a profit or loss now makes no difference
The clubs voting against SCR were Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Crystal Palace, Fulham and Leeds
Brighton will be impacted perhaps more as their successful transfer strategy [the same for Bournemouth] which generates profits doesn't provide as much headroom as PSR perhaps would
At least fiddles like asset sales are now finally banned tho Uefa fined Chelsea green lighted crack on by the PL
Not that they have any more assets to sell

[daviemac]

Indeed
However clubs like Newcastle & Villa are pegged back c.f. 'big' clubs as it takes time to grow their income

Newcastle's revenue has increase from £140.2 million in 2020/21 to £335.3 million in 2024/25 with an increase of 44% in commercial income.

We're heading in the right direction but still have a long way to go.