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Author Topic: Amour and Diamonds should be informed if 2 escorts working at same flat?  (Read 10438 times)

Offline MDB72

As I see it if you see an independent girl working on her own exclusively from a flat or house then there can be no suggestion that falls under the definition of a brothel. So if the prospect of being in a brothel worries you then that is the best prospect. The agencies are in a difficult position in respect of the law. There are many arguments they could use if prosecuted - one of the most obvious would be to say they merely provide a service for the girls e.g call handling and diary management. That's a very basic argument but they have to keep their distance from what happens. If they were to say - when asked for an incall that there are two girls working that would imply that they knew what was happening. If two girls are openly working then there is a risk of neighbour complaints which might spark police interest. In a raid they would ask for the details of the punter. Being in a brothel is not an offence but the police could make it difficult for the punter. If you use an agency that openly has girls working in a flat then find one that is more discreet or accept the risk.

Offline greychap


She was on here yes and did get banned for fake reviews and offering fake compensation to the fake punter...i think

However i do find her and the agency excellent , this is by no way a beef at them just a general rant at girls doing this at the moment, i understand why they do it but it doesnt mean i have to put up with it

Amour has been highlighted cos she has responded in a way that concerns some punters??

So basically Stacey has a history of telling lies and writing fake reviews so I should imagine most of the reviews on the amour site are not to be trusted either.

Shame she did not seem too bad, but how this 2 girl or even 3 girl situation has certainly not been handled the right way by her ranting on her website because a few of us have pointed it out. We have a right to be comfortable when we punt and use Amour because its marketed as only 1 girl per flat.
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femalepunter

So basically Stacey has a history of telling lies and writing fake reviews so I should imagine most of the reviews on the amour site are not to be trusted either.

Shame she did not seem too bad, but how this 2 girl or even 3 girl situation has certainly not been handled the right way by her ranting on her website because a few of us have pointed it out. We have a right to be comfortable when we punt and use Amour because its marketed as only 1 girl per flat.

Nah I wouldn't say the reviews are fake, if u think abt the amount of bookings they must take, there is a very small percentage or reviews get posted, if they were being faked there would be tonnes more.

Offline greychap

Nah I wouldn't say the reviews are fake, if u think abt the amount of bookings they must take, there is a very small percentage or reviews get posted, if they were being faked there would be tonnes more.

Ok maybe some then.
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Offline AnthG

So basically Stacey has a history of telling lies and writing fake reviews so I should imagine most of the reviews on the amour site are not to be trusted either.

Here is the actual review thread where she was banned so you can see what exactly took place.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=19262

With regards to reviews on any agency websites. Never trust them. Take them with a huge pinch of salt. Always trust the reviews on this forum. And to be honest the same thing applies to pretty much any retailers website. Never trust the reviews they post, always look for independent reviews.

Offline Trelf

Well,I've left reviews on the Amour website several times and they were reproduced 100% accurately and in their entirety.
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femalepunter

Well,I've left reviews on the Amour website several times and they were reproduced 100% accurately and in their entirety.

As were mine
« Last Edit: December 30, 2014, 09:35:15 PM by femalepunter »

Well,I've left reviews on the Amour website several times and they were reproduced 100% accurately and in their entirety.

When I saw Amelia she asked me to send in some feedback so I did...and they didn't use it (and yes it was very positive).  :cry: I was a bit miffed as it's bloody laborious writing it out as a text.

Offline Greenman

I have wrote 7/8 reviews in armour website and all published exactly as I wrote them
Never had any issues with armour
Stacy great to get on with

Offline themademan2


I think what stacy is arguing is that no 2 advertised Amour girls work together at the same time in the same flat and that as indies shes powerless to stop it....which would mean its pointless asking Amour prior to booking if the girl is alone cos the answer will (as far as stacey is aware) always be yes, despite a girl on Amours books working as an indie there too on the same day

Even if you turn up and ask the fuckers will still lie to you, she will just go in and tell her "mate" to be quiet during her booking(assuming shes not getting fucked already then it becomes obvious).

Like i said , i dont know how Amour can police it
Non of you guys spotted it but Kia (now jenny) and Molly were both working out same place, one down as blaydon and the other down as swallwell (both actually working whickham same premises!). I knew as when I asked Molly for a shower, she said Kia was downstairs. Even greenman review for Kia originally stated that her friend answered door! So that confirms my info that the agency was having 2 working same place same time knowingly!
« Last Edit: December 31, 2014, 12:14:02 AM by themademan2 »
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This is the type of thing that puts me off using agencies full stop.  Wish they would just have ladies working out of one flat and not try and be vague with escorts and punters as to the law.

 :rolleyes:


Offline Toshiba

Non of you guys spotted it but Kia (now jenny) and Molly were both working out same place, one down as blaydon and the other down as swallwell (both actually working whickham same premises!). I knew as when I asked Molly for a shower, she said Kia was downstairs. Even greenman review for Kia originally stated that her friend answered door! So that confirms my info that the agency was having 2 working same place same time knowingly!


Missed that...........well if true thats the whole Amour credibility thing i gave them out the window and they seem the same as Diamonds, difficult to do much about it other than ask before booking now

Offline Jamessn

if you get caught in a brothel by police they confirm who you are first, so you have to show true ID, they check it, make you write a statement, how you made the appointment etc, what was discussed first, did you know you would get sex. They then check the girl's ID and the story, if it matches with yours they let you go as you haven't done anything illegal and you are classed as a witness. Saw this on a forum somewhere, can't find it now.

However, they ask the girl if she has been coerced, trafficked etc. if she says yes then you are in deep, deep do do. You will end up in court.

Not worth the risk is it? So no agency is safe or trustworthy.

Someone told me that Stacy has got really greedy, she charges the girls the full amount of commission for no shows. Now it appears she is turning a blind eye to brothels too.

Glad I saw this thread I was going to use amour for my next foray. I think I will stick to occasional out calls to a hotel from now to be on the safe side.


Offline Toshiba


Jesus.....think im going to consider sticking to AW after reading that

Ive too much to lose and its not worth it tbh, this 2 in a flat malarky has bothered me for a while now, agghh i just dont know anymore

Scary if true, i know raids arent often but it just takes the once n thats it for me

Offline themademan2


Missed that...........well if true thats the whole Amour credibility thing i gave them out the window and they seem the same as Diamonds, difficult to do much about it other than ask before booking now
Looks like Stacey banned u from her competition on the other forum Holycrosser! It's the one u entered the competition. Apparently she won't accept your entry for lying about her  :wackogirl:

Looks like competitions are fixed anyway if that's any consolation Holycrosser  :cool:
« Last Edit: December 31, 2014, 10:36:50 AM by themademan2 »
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Offline AnthG

if you get caught in a brothel by police they confirm who you are first, so you have to show true ID, they check it, make you write a statement, how you made the appointment etc, what was discussed first, did you know you would get sex. They then check the girl's ID and the story, if it matches with yours they let you go as you haven't done anything illegal and you are classed as a witness. Saw this on a forum somewhere, can't find it now.

However, they ask the girl if she has been coerced, trafficked etc. if she says yes then you are in deep, deep do do. You will end up in court.

I cannot accept that is the right info, or right thing to do. It just doesn't sit with me as it seems the first part contradicts the second, so I have asked this on the main forum

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=45565.0

Offline AnthG

Looks like Stacey banned u from her competition on the other forum Holycrosser! It's the one u entered the competition. Apparently she won't accept your entry for lying about her  :wackogirl:

I do not want to get in trouble myself with Amour, but where has Holycrosser bad mouthed, or lied about stacey/amour?

His posts on this thread e.g.

Missed that...........well if true thats the whole Amour credibility thing i gave them out the window and they seem the same as Diamonds, difficult to do much about it other than ask before booking now

Have been just personal worried conclusions based on what others have said, as he is panicking over getting caught with 2 girls in the flat. (which it seems is based on a situation of, if he is ever in a raid...life is over, so wants to minimise that chance to smallest as possible).

He hasn't been the one saying the things, he is just worrying over other people saying them?

The only other thing was this

She was on here yes and did get banned for fake reviews and offering fake compensation to the fake punter...i think

Which was just his memory of what he recalled happened which was over a year ago. It wasn't said maliciously, it was just his recollection.

Offline Toshiba

Looks like Stacey banned u from her competition on the other forum Holycrosser! It's the one u entered the competition. Apparently she won't accept your entry for lying about her  :wackogirl:

Looks like competitions are fixed anyway if that's any consolation Holycrosser  :cool:

Im totally gobsmacked at her response on the other forum, to suggest ive bad mouthed her is absurd, ive took care to try and be sympathetic to her and Amour, the only concern i then had was when she piped up on her site stating they dont allow girls to work together in one flat, this has been proved to be wrong and ive voiced concerns not only that it happens but also other agencies do it too.

She seems to throw her toys out the pram at criticism instead of putting it right.

Ive always put her agency and many if her workers in a great light in the main on here, i never insult her agency but i will have an opinion on the wrong stuff too, im a customer.

Unreal man
« Last Edit: December 31, 2014, 11:34:59 AM by Holycrosser »

Offline Toshiba

I do not want to get in trouble myself with Amour, but where has Holycrosser bad mouthed, or lied about stacey/amour?

His posts on this thread e.g.

Have been just personal worried conclusions based on what others have said, as he is panicking over getting caught with 2 girls in the flat. (which it seems is based on a situation of, if he is ever in a raid...life is over, so wants to minimise that chance to smallest as possible).

He hasn't been the one saying the things, he is just worrying over other people saying them?

The only other thing was this

Which was just his memory of what he recalled happened which was over a year ago. It wasn't said maliciously, it was just his recollection.


All true and thanks Anth, daft reaction tbh.maybe we have hit a nerve

Offline Jamessn

Interesting reply to your post on the main board AnthG. Well done for posting it, interesting that there has not been a punter prosecuted, but there may be a first time.

I personally would not take the risk, escorts northeast has closed down, they were raided a few times last year. Now they have got rid of one agency they are bound to move onto another, I think Diamonds would be the likely target. But who knows.

There was another one last year closed down, run by an ex soldier, called escort dreams, I think, I can't remember now.

The police commissioner in Northumbria has a bee in her bonnet about prostitution being violence against women, so she is bound to keep up the pressure against agencies.

I am going to carry on being careful, no agency girls for me.

Offline AnthG

There was another one last year closed down, run by an ex soldier, called escort dreams, I think, I can't remember now.

The one last year that was closed down. Reading the news it suggests no girls, or punters were prosecuted. Just the owner of the agency.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/shame-war-hero-who-ran-4017010

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/andrew-tierney-marine-behind-newcastle-4281101

You get the feeling the reason why he was prosecuted was because he took the mick - having six girls all working all out of the one small flat he booked in a posh hotel all in his name. There is a thing called not being brazen about it.

Offline themademan2

Looks like Stacey banned u from her competition on the other forum Holycrosser! It's the one u entered the competition. Apparently she won't accept your entry for lying about her  :wackogirl:

Looks like competitions are fixed anyway if that's any consolation Holycrosser  :cool:

Strange, looks like admin from the other forum has edited the strand where u got banned from competition...
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Offline Toshiba

Strange, looks like admin from the other forum has edited the strand where u got banned from competition...

not really bothered, this is not all about Amour tbh, many agencies seem to do it...........it was pointed out, not by me, that Amour were also up to it seemingly, i still fail to see where ive bad mouthed them.

i defended them earlier as to how do they police indies working the same day as an agency girl, well thats for them to sort and you's to make the choice, you know my view and its not all about me  :drinks:


Going by Anth's accurate definition of a brothel 39 of my 48 incall punts have been in flats/houses that fit the definition of a brothel - and of the 9 others, who were girls who generally work alone from their own flat, the majority of those girls participate in duos which may well have taken place at their flat, making them brothels as well.

The fact is that it's absolutely endemic in the NE punting scene (both agencies and indies) so it's unfair to single out a few girls / agencies.

It's particularly ironic that Amour have been the focus of this thread when they're the only local incall agency who are actively trying to put a stop to shared flats.

Offline greychap

Im totally gobsmacked at her response on the other forum, to suggest ive bad mouthed her is absurd, ive took care to try and be sympathetic to her and Amour, the only concern i then had was when she piped up on her site stating they dont allow girls to work together in one flat, this has been proved to be wrong and ive voiced concerns not only that it happens but also other agencies do it too.

She seems to throw her toys out the pram at criticism instead of putting it right.

Ive always put her agency and many if her workers in a great light in the main on here, i never insult her agency but i will have an opinion on the wrong stuff too, im a customer.

Unreal man

It is totally wrong for Stacey to be having a go at holycrosser quite a few of us have said we don't like the 2 girl brothel situation. I for one only used Amour for incalls because I thought it  was a better situation then when Diamonds have 2 girls working the only difference is Diamonds are open about it and Stacey says it does not happen when many of the punters here have said it does.

Stacey should not be attacking her customers she should be trying to resolve the issue that she has been found out.

Also it shows that we should all have a different identity on here so we can be honest and voice our concerns without Amour going after individuals and banning them just because they have made a point of not wanting to do bookings with other girls and punters in the flat at the same time.
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