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Author Topic: Amour and Diamonds should be informed if 2 escorts working at same flat?  (Read 10439 times)

Offline AnthG

I have seen a few Amour girls before and they seem to think Stacey is well aware that the 2 girl working situation is not legal but turns a blind eye

This I would say is just a case of the girls trying to be cleverer than they really are. I say this as Stacey says every chance she can get don't do it. Its even on the news page repeated now last night when this topic came up again don't do it. The problem is the girls think they are being clever and ignore that and do it anyway.

I would say it will be interesting what happens when Delphine comes back as its pretty obvious to everyone that Eva and Delphine are in the same flat and wanting to work together at the same times. So if it takes place it will be the blind eye. If it doesn't take place then it will be due to Stacey not allowing it.

plus one girl did say to me that Stacey tries to fit in as many jobs as possible with the escorts even though sometimes there is not enough time to re touch make up and have a full shower etc.

This is the moan agency girls like to give to garner sympathy. And to try and justify their own belief they probably are not clean enough for you. Both George and Stacey have said repeatedly on this forum and others the time between punts is arranged between themselves and the girls. If the girls want longer to shower and get ready between punts then this is agreed. And with that its always the girls who see the $$$es and want the shortest time possible between punts.

Like I say I do chat with girls in my punts. And what this unfortunately allows me to see what many of the girls who do this try on.

Offline Toshiba

Agree with all of the above.

We arent picking on amour here because as had been pointed out diamonds are the worst at this by far, but it doesnt make it right.

I single guys dont really have much to fear from punting but us guys , and theres many of us, who ate attached do this secretly, need total discretion, its my underworld and i simply dont like the thought of a busy flat being noticed by others,used by loads of blokes all day every day....its going to attract attention but thats not my main gripe cos i simply want my session in private, not to listen to some other fucker shagging.

Its a privacy thing for me and many others that i simply dont like.

Offline greychap

This I would say is just a case of the girls trying to be cleverer than they really are. I say this as Stacey says every chance she can get don't do it. Its even on the news page repeated now last night when this topic came up again don't do it. The problem is the girls think they are being clever and ignore that and do it anyway.

I would say it will be interesting what happens when Delphine comes back as its pretty obvious to everyone that Eva and Delphine are in the same flat and wanting to work together at the same times. So if it takes place it will be the blind eye. If it doesn't take place then it will be due to Stacey not allowing it.

This is the moan agency girls like to give to garner sympathy. And to try and justify their own belief they probably are not clean enough for you. Both George and Stacey have said repeatedly on this forum and others the time between punts is arranged between themselves and the girls. If the girls want longer to shower and get ready between punts then this is agreed. And with that its always the girls who see the $$$es and want the shortest time possible between punts.

Like I say I do chat with girls in my punts. And what this unfortunately allows me to see what many of the girls who do this try on.

I know what you mean Anth I too have lots of chats with girls as I like to have a chat and get to know some of them.

I don't think my problem is with Stacey running it not above board that's her call if she wants to do that, but don't make out there is just one escort in the flat tell the punter so he can decide.

It does show one thing though Stacey looks at UKP a lot so has seen many times the reviews and duos that have gone on and the discussions about it so she has been aware hasn't she?

A couple of other agencies I have used not from these parts when they give out incall appointments they ask the lady if any one else works from her place when she joins if they do they wont give her jobs only outcalls and if they find out they have been lied to they take her off there books, so there protecting there agency as much as they can.
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Offline Toshiba

This I would say is just a case of the girls trying to be cleverer than they really are. I say this as Stacey says every chance she can get don't do it. Its even on the news page repeated now last night when this topic came up again don't do it. The problem is the girls think they are being clever and ignore that and do it anyway.

I would say it will be interesting what happens when Delphine comes back as its pretty obvious to everyone that Eva and Delphine are in the same flat and wanting to work together at the same times. So if it takes place it will be the blind eye. If it doesn't take place then it will be due to Stacey not allowing it.

This is the moan agency girls like to give to garner sympathy. And to try and justify their own belief they probably are not clean enough for you. Both George and Stacey have said repeatedly on this forum and others the time between punts is arranged between themselves and the girls. If the girls want longer to shower and get ready between punts then this is agreed. And with that its always the girls who see the $$$es and want the shortest time possible between punts.

Like I say I do chat with girls in my punts. And what this unfortunately allows me to see what many of the girls who do this try on.


Spot on Anth, they know and we know the have 15mins minimum or longer if they want between punts and its up to them to agree that with the agency, but that really is another well covered subject.

Weve pushed Amour to offer more incalls and tbf they have delivered but this flat sharing creeping in is gonna have to be addressed if they want to remain at the top of the pile(i rarely look at diamonds now)....we as punters need to add this to any questions we have before we book, i will be.

How quite Amour police this is the hard part as clearly girls are flat sharing without them knowing

Offline greychap

Agree with all of the above.

We arent picking on amour here because as had been pointed out diamonds are the worst at this by far, but it doesnt make it right.

I single guys dont really have much to fear from punting but us guys , and theres many of us, who ate attached do this secretly, need total discretion, its my underworld and i simply dont like the thought of a busy flat being noticed by others,used by loads of blokes all day every day....its going to attract attention but thats not my main gripe cos i simply want my session in private, not to listen to some other fucker shagging.

Its a privacy thing for me and many others that i simply dont like.

This is exactly how I feel I want my own privacy and not to turn up and hear the door bell going and banging sounds coming through the wall.

This is why I don't use Diamonds for incalls because we all know there is more then 1 girl but I do feel a little tricked by Amour making out its just one girl working.

I am not saying at all Amour is a bad agency just I do think they make a point of saying they run it totally above board unlike other agencies and Stacey knows the law etc etc but by boasting about this it is a fair point to pull her up on it that she is not running things within the law like she boasts that she is  :dash: :dash:
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Offline Toshiba

I don't see the problem with two or more girls working in a flat, ok its breaking the law but the police do turn a blind eye as long as its not obvious and being brought to attention, I know this from both sides of the fence and that some establishments do get left alone as they keep under the radar, its gone on for years and always will

The problem now is that as its kept being mentioned on this site and sites like it, it is out in the open more and more and the police will have no choice but to take action which spoils it for everyone, the police are not daft and they have more information and knowledge than you think about what goes on, so it may be time to let the subject drop! just think that's the end of those duo sessions  :(
I know a few will not agree with the above but its just my take on things happy 2015

I dont think this thread will create a ripple with NP

You dont have a problem but then say its breaking the law, you will have a problem when they knock

Can i ask are you single?(not a loaded question mate)

Offline greychap

I dont think this thread will create a ripple with NP

You dont have a problem but then say its breaking the law, you will have a problem when they knock

Can i ask are you single?(not a loaded question mate)

The police usually go on complaints from neighbours and if 2 girls are busy all day that is a huge amount of punters through the door, I don't think this has anything to do with this forum and the police we have discussed loads and loads of things on here.

But personally I would not want to have them turn up and take down all my details and have them on there database, and we all know some police can give you a hard time if they want to and make an example if they want to we just don't need it if we think we are visiting one girl but then find out there is more when its too late as already paid.
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Offline Toshiba

I felt so strongly i cancelled a very hard to get a booking with punt with lily delphine.

She and eva were working the same day indepedantly of each other in the flat(nothing to do with amour that day tbf) and i just couldnt go through with it.

Imagine booking 2 hours with her? Hearing all the ins and outs of the other punters /sex , possible queuing for a shower? It would be fucking horrendous.

Yuk
« Last Edit: December 30, 2014, 12:11:07 PM by Holycrosser »

Offline greychap

I felt so strongly i cancelled a very hard to get a booking with punt with lily delphine.

She and eva were working the same day indepedantly of each other in the flat(nothing to do with amour that day tbf) and i just couldnt go through with it.

Imagine booking 2 hours with her? Heating all the ins and outs of the other punters /sex , possible queuing for a shower? It would be fucking horrendous.

Yuk

Yes its a big turn off for me but the escorts and agencies just think of the money, its very in discreet plus we are booking one lady thinking its just her working from one place and it is not in many cases.
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Offline AnthG

Imagine booking 2 hours with her? Hearing all the ins and outs of the other punters /sex , possible queuing for a shower? It would be fucking horrendous.

Yuk

Going way off topic here, but in all my punts when many of them was two girls in a flat there has only been one time when I have been aware of another punter in the flat and that was an independent booking with Paige at Gateshead way back in 2012.

She was sharing a flat with a girl from another agency and my booking was 2hrs and the girl in the other agency was foreign (polish or Romanian) and clearly doing as soon as you come you are out of the door situation. And in that two hours she was introducing men, taking them in the room, straight away within minutes doing the most extreme fake screaming you have ever heard (clearly trying to rush them) and then getting them out the door ASAP. Then the next guy and the next.

We both thought it was actually really funny to be honest the falseness and brazenness of it all. It honestly felt like a comedy sketch.

Other than that one time I have never once known another punter was there (and I can guess there will be many times there were).
« Last Edit: December 30, 2014, 12:19:23 PM by AnthG »

Offline greychap

Yes its a big turn off for me but the escorts and agencies just think of the money, its very in discreet plus we are booking one lady thinking its just her working from one place and it is not in many cases.

Also when I do incalls I always do at least 1hr and a lot of the time 90 mins or 2hrs so you can imagine with some girls if I did 2 hrs its possible that 4 other punters could be in and out with the other girl and as I usually go to the bathroom at least twice there is a good chance I will be saying hi to my fellow punter!

That is why I have avoided certain escorts even though I wanted to see a couple of them!
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Offline Toshiba

Going way off topic here, but in all my punts when many of them was two girls in a flat there has only been one time when I have been aware of another punter in the flat and that was an independent booking with Paige at Gateshead way back in 2012.

She was sharing a flat with a girl from another agency and my booking was 2hrs and the girl in the other agency was foreign (polish or Romanian) and clearly doing as soon as you come you are out of the door situation. And in that two hours she was introducing men, taking them in the room, straight away within minutes doing the most extreme fake screaming you have ever heard (clearly trying to rush them) and then getting them out the door ASAP. Then the next guy and the next.

We both thought it was actually really funny to be honest the falseness and brazenness of it all. It honestly felt like a comedy sketch.

Other than that one time I have never once known another punter was there (and I can guess there will be many times there were).

Me too Anth but its the possibility of it happening thats the point, i once had a punt with samantha of diamonds and she answered the door a bit flustered told me to wait a second.clearly another punter was about to come out and was told to go back inside the room till samantha came back and ushered me into her room then he departed, its that sort of shite i can do without

femalepunter

I don't see the problem with two or more girls working in a flat, ok its breaking the law but the police do turn a blind eye as long as its not obvious and being brought to attention, I know this from both sides of the fence and that some establishments do get left alone as they keep under the radar, its gone on for years and always will

The problem now is that as its kept being mentioned on this site and sites like it, it is out in the open more and more and the police will have no choice but to take action which spoils it for everyone, the police are not daft and they have more information and knowledge than you think about what goes on, so it may be time to let the subject drop! just think that's the end of those duo sessions  :(
I know a few will not agree with the above but its just my take on things happy 2015

Don't suggest ppl drop the subject, everyone is entitled to their opinion, yes the police may turn a blind eye, but what if they don't, if u ok with having your details taken by the police, fine, but I'm sure most ppl aren't

Offline Trelf

Can anyone confirm that they have booked a girl through Amour and there has been another girl working the same flat? Especially if the other girl was also on Amours books at the same time?
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Offline AnthG

Can anyone confirm that they have booked a girl through Amour and there has been another girl working the same flat? Especially if the other girl was also on Amours books at the same time?

I have had it once. And the other girl wasn't a girl on Amours books it was the girl sharing with her friend working for another agency.

From what people are frequently saying it seems to be Cassie who is the one repeatedly doing it now.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2014, 01:40:16 PM by AnthG »

Offline ohfook1t

And some mention of cassie taking a break on amour news page. Well she was working same flat building as one of there other girls today

Offline KLMman

It seems lately a lot of 2 girls are working from incall flats at the same time.

I personally think when making a booking we should be told at the time if we are going in to a brothel, I know Diamonds seem to have a habbit of doing this but Amour go out of there way to say your sent to the place of one girl with one girl working when they have 2 girls from there agency doing incalls at the same time on the same day so in a way your being tricked, I don't think this is good for business.

I think Amour should tell us when we make a booking about who else will be in the flat on the day as this has happened with Eva, Lilly, Dionne and Cassie working at the same time.

If I go to see a escort on an incall I don't want to hear other men in the next room with another girl, and with 2 girls working from the flat and are busy all day that is a hell of a lot of punters coming and going through the door other people must notice the amount of men in and out.

Apart from it being illegal if the agencies what to do bookings like this at least tell us when we make a booking that there is more then 1 girl working from the building???

Pretty much all the agency flats are brothels using the CPS definition. "Premises only become a brothel when more than one woman uses premises for the purposes of prostitution, either simultaneously or one at a time (Stevens v Christy [1987] Cr. App. R. 249, DC). This implies that if two women are present, both must be there for the purposes of prostitution. In circumstances where prostitutes are working individually out of one flat but there is a rotation of occupants and the young women are moved on a regular basis; i.e. sole occupancy and a rotation of sole occupants, it does constitute a brothel."http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/prostitution_and_exploitation_of_prostitution/#a14
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Offline themademan2

Can anyone confirm that they have booked a girl through Amour and there has been another girl working the same flat? Especially if the other girl was also on Amours books at the same time?
Read the post carefully. I already stated there was an amour girl present and dionne of adultwork is also Juliet of amour.

And the blindingly obvious that although I booked dionne through adultwork, Cassie of amour was doing a punter through the agency as confirmed by her timetable on amour so the answer to your question is there
« Last Edit: December 30, 2014, 02:55:40 PM by themademan2 »
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Offline Toshiba

Read the post carefully. I already stated there was an amour girl present and dionne of adultwork is also Juliet of amour.

And the blindingly obvious that although I booked dionne through adultwork, Cassie of amour was doing a punter through the agency as confirmed by her timetable on amour so the answer to your question is there


I think what stacy is arguing is that no 2 advertised Amour girls work together at the same time in the same flat and that as indies shes powerless to stop it....which would mean its pointless asking Amour prior to booking if the girl is alone cos the answer will (as far as stacey is aware) always be yes, despite a girl on Amours books working as an indie there too on the same day

Even if you turn up and ask the fuckers will still lie to you, she will just go in and tell her "mate" to be quiet during her booking(assuming shes not getting fucked already then it becomes obvious).

Like i said , i dont know how Amour can police it

Offline Trelf


I think what stacy is arguing is that no 2 advertised Amour girls work together at the same time in the same flat and that as indies shes powerless to stop it....which would mean its pointless asking Amour prior to booking if the girl is alone cos the answer will (as far as stacey is aware) always be yes, despite a girl on Amours books working as an indie there too on the same day

Even if you turn up and ask the fuckers will still lie to you, she will just go in and tell her "mate" to be quiet during her booking(assuming shes not getting fucked already then it becomes obvious).

Like i said , i dont know how Amour can police it

Thats why I was asking the question.
Very difficult to police indeed.
I think that the only thing can be done is for those who really dont want to take the chance to avoid the girls we have a pretty good idea are doing this.
I think we all know who we are talking about!
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Offline Toshiba

Thats why I was asking the question.
Very difficult to police indeed.
I think that the only thing can be done is for those who really dont want to take the chance to avoid the girls we have a pretty good idea are doing this.
I think we all know who we are talking about!

Its an awareness thing, thats all we can do

Offline greychap


I think what stacy is arguing is that no 2 advertised Amour girls work together at the same time in the same flat and that as indies shes powerless to stop it....which would mean its pointless asking Amour prior to booking if the girl is alone cos the answer will (as far as stacey is aware) always be yes, despite a girl on Amours books working as an indie there too on the same day

Even if you turn up and ask the fuckers will still lie to you, she will just go in and tell her "mate" to be quiet during her booking(assuming shes not getting fucked already then it becomes obvious).

Like i said , i dont know how Amour can police it

Yes I do think even if we ask Stacey is it just that girl working there she will just say yes and ring the girls and tell them they must be quiet.

The only way to police it is for Stacey to talk to all girls at Amour and say if we give you any incall appointments you must be alone no sharing with friends and other Amour girls, its easy for Stacey to find out just look at how we all know as punters talk on here and Stacey reads this forum by the looks of it all the time so she can see all the comments that have been made.

To me its quite simple Stacey makes it clear if they breach the terms then she can stop representing them, it seems like she constantly gets rid of girls for other things as she even points out on her website how she has stop representing this girl and that girl so if she really wants to stop running a brothel she can but it all boils down to wether she wants to or not so its her call how she deals with it............?

I only used Amour because I first thought it was not run like Diamonds with more than one girl working but now we know it is so its not so appealing anymore.
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Offline Toshiba

Yes I do think even if we ask Stacey is it just that girl working there she will just say yes and ring the girls and tell them they must be quiet.

The only way to police it is for Stacey to talk to all girls at Amour and say if we give you any incall appointments you must be alone no sharing with friends and other Amour girls, its easy for Stacey to find out just look at how we all know as punters talk on here and Stacey reads this forum by the looks of it all the time so she can see all the comments that have been made.

To me its quite simple Stacey makes it clear if they breach the terms then she can stop representing them, it seems like she constantly gets rid of girls for other things as she even points out on her website how she has stop representing this girl and that girl so if she really wants to stop running a brothel she can but it all boils down to wether she wants to or not so its her call how she deals with it............?

I only used Amour because I first thought it was not run like Diamonds with more than one girl working but now we know it is so its not so appealing anymore.


Excellent post  :thumbsup:

So its down to us to squeal on them as its quite clearly going on despite the girls knowing its wrong, stacey must have been aware of it and she will be now

Lets see how its responded to.others may have no beef with it but some do and if we can get it changed then its a good thing

We just want safety, discretion and privacy.

Offline greychap


Excellent post  :thumbsup:

So its down to us to squeal on them as its quite clearly going on despite the girls knowing its wrong, stacey must have been aware of it and she will be now

Lets see how its responded to.others may have no beef with it but some do and if we can get it changed then its a good thing

We just want safety, discretion and privacy.

Too right I think we have to stick together on this they get our business because some of us they don't like the running of Diamonds so we use Amour and Amour are basically having the same thing going on.

Remember of course Stacey knows it goes on first of all I have been told that by a girl, secondly she reads this forum all the time and knows what gets said and third she has the full addresses of all incall places where all the girls work.

Am I mistaken but did Stacey get banned from here for writing fake reviews or something like that I could be wrong but thought I heard something like that, if anybody knows let me know as I am not sure if its the case but thought it might be??

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Offline Toshiba

Too right I think we have to stick together on this they get our business because some of us they don't like the running of Diamonds so we use Amour and Amour are basically having the same thing going on.

Remember of course Stacey knows it goes on first of all I have been told that by a girl, secondly she reads this forum all the time and knows what gets said and third she has the full addresses of all incall places where all the girls work.

Am I mistaken but did Stacey get banned from here for writing fake reviews or something like that I could be wrong but thought I heard something like that, if anybody knows let me know as I am not sure if its the case but thought it might be??


She was on here yes and did get banned for fake reviews and offering fake compensation to the fake punter...i think

However i do find her and the agency excellent , this is by no way a beef at them just a general rant at girls doing this at the moment, i understand why they do it but it doesnt mean i have to put up with it

Amour has been highlighted cos she has responded in a way that concerns some punters??




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