How trustworthy are those vivastreet ads?

[misaya44]

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It's hard to tell because there are no reviews. It's also an agency and there are plenty of similar ads all around London who advertise similarly, and send the same copy+pasted messages to you of the services they offer.

So I have to ask because unlike AW there are no reviews. Is this some kind of scam, or aside from the girl not looking like the pictures, what is the catch?

[scutty brown]

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It's a front for a Chinese organised criminal gang.
On this particular profile the photos are stolen from a Facebook account.   
Whoever you see, it won't be the girl in the photos - and one way or another she'll be working illegally, probably trafficked

[misaya44]

would this be same for similar vivastreet ads for Brazilian girls?

I'm wondering then what the next best website would be aside from AW to look for escorts

[Prince]

Most ads have fake pics but if they gave aw profiles too then.probably  real.

Use filters on search for girls with videos and judge how authentic those are.

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[Trafalgarlaw17]

130 profiles posted by the same user
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It's a front for a Chinese organised criminal gang.
On this particular profile the photos are stolen from a Facebook account.   
Whoever you see, it won't be the girl in the photos - and one way or another she'll be working illegally, probably trafficked

Damn never thought about this, is a lot similar like this in Manchester. I used to think is fake adds so I never bothered even clicking. That is cruel wow

[RandomGuy99]

Not.

[scutty brown]

would this be same for similar vivastreet ads for Brazilian girls?

Similar situation, just different gangs. Brazilians are often under the control of Albanian / Romanian groups

[Iloveoral]

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It's hard to tell because there are no reviews. It's also an agency and there are plenty of similar ads all around London who advertise similarly, and send the same copy+pasted messages to you of the services they offer.

So I have to ask because unlike AW there are no reviews. Is this some kind of scam, or aside from the girl not looking like the pictures, what is the catch?

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[Arripotter1971]

I always treat these with caution. You knock the door and of course the door opens by the invisible woman  step inside, have a look, if you don't like what you see walk back out onto plan B. In my case I have mostly positive experiences with these lower end budget girls. They have been damn good down here in Cardiff.

[bops909]

130 profiles posted by the same user
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It's a front for a Chinese organised criminal gang.
On this particular profile the photos are stolen from a Facebook account.   
Whoever you see, it won't be the girl in the photos - and one way or another she'll be working illegally, probably trafficked

That's now 135 adverts, which is a really high number. Highest I'd seen previously was like 10.

And yes, the first 4 adverts are all using images copied and pasted from Facebook or similar - reverse image search is very useful.



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[paul_tall_]

That's now 135 adverts, which is a really high number. Highest I'd seen previously was like 10.

And yes, the first 4 adverts are all using images copied and pasted from Facebook or similar - reverse image search is very useful.



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vivastreet seem to have changed how they display the advertiser recently it used to be a name or company now they just show an id
data protection or concern they can be used to identify the individuals

[mancsguy1975]

Fired off 5 enquiry texts for local services on Friday and got 2 threatening (spam) text messages back (you know the type).

I know this isnt a massive sample size, I think this illustrates the issue with vivastreet.

[petermisc]

I always treat these with caution. You knock the door and of course the door opens by the invisible woman  step inside, have a look, if you don't like what you see walk back out onto plan B. In my case I have mostly positive experiences with these lower end budget girls. They have been damn good down here in Cardiff.

The big problem is that you never get to know the girls name, and they move on after a week, or two at most.  So no point in reviewing.  A gaff that had an excellent girl one week may have a dud the next.

It is very much pot luck, but by doing a bit of research you can significantly improve your odds.  I tend to go for those claiming to be independent, and avoid the agencies with large numbers of ads.  Often these agencies post multiple ads, some claiming to be independent.  It pays to compare phone numbers and the wording in ads, and what postcode they quote in their texts, to look for things in common.  I just automatically assume that the photos in the ads are fake, bait to reel you in, but occasionally some of these setups will offer to WhatsApp you genuine photos / videos.  By doing the research, and working out the gaffs to avoid, I have scored quite a high success rate with Chinese SPs of late, some really good punts at very cheap rates.

Even if the VS ad doesn't state any extras charges, just everything ticked green, and the text detailing services doesn't mention extras, in my experience, Chinese SPs invariably want extra for things like owo, cim and fk.  However, when you get there, the girls rarely ask upfront if you want extras.  They ask how long you want to stay, and that is it.  Asking and paying for extras up front seems to get you a much better service.  Paying just an extra £10 or £20 up front for owo or fk for example can get you a much better experience. I suspect you are seen as a better customer because the girls get to keep all the extras money, unlike the hourly cost which has a hefty boss fee deducted.

[petermisc]

Fired off 5 enquiry texts for local services on Friday and got 2 threatening (spam) text messages back (you know the type).

I know this isnt a massive sample size, I think this illustrates the issue with vivastreet.

If you sent 5 enquiry texts in quick succession to the same person, I am not surprised that they were not happy with you.  You would be seen as a time waster.  The problem is that you may not know that you are sending texts to the same person.  As I said in my previous msg, it is common for these kind of places to post multiple ads under multiple identities and often with different phone numbers.

When staying somewhere new recently, I fired off enquiry texts to half a dozen ads in the area, but waiting an hour or two between each, and varying the wording.  All came back with near identical replies, quoting exactly the same postcode.  Almost certainly the same place (and in my experience, the kind of place to avoid).  If I had fired them all off simultaneously, I suspect I may have had the same response as you.

[mancsguy1975]

If you sent 5 enquiry texts in quick succession to the same person, I am not surprised that they were not happy with you.  You would be seen as a time waster.  The problem is that you may not know that you are sending texts to the same person.  As I said in my previous msg, it is common for these kind of places to post multiple ads under multiple identities and often with different phone numbers.

When staying somewhere new recently, I fired off enquiry texts to half a dozen ads in the area, but waiting an hour or two between each, and varying the wording.  All came back with near identical replies, quoting exactly the same postcode.  Almost certainly the same place (and in my experience, the kind of place to avoid).  If I had fired them all off simultaneously, I suspect I may have had the same response as you.

Interesting insight, thanks.

[paul_tall_]

If you sent 5 enquiry texts in quick succession to the same person, I am not surprised that they were not happy with you.  You would be seen as a time waster.  The problem is that you may not know that you are sending texts to the same person.  As I said in my previous msg, it is common for these kind of places to post multiple ads under multiple identities and often with different phone numbers.

When staying somewhere new recently, I fired off enquiry texts to half a dozen ads in the area, but waiting an hour or two between each, and varying the wording.  All came back with near identical replies, quoting exactly the same postcode.  Almost certainly the same place (and in my experience, the kind of place to avoid).  If I had fired them all off simultaneously, I suspect I may have had the same response as you.

It’s not unreasonable to contact a few providers if you are looking for a same day meeting . So long as it’s just an enquiry and not you suggesting you want a confirmed booking they can hardly say you are time wasting esp if it’s the same person that is running multiple ads. Certain nationalities you ring and they either don’t answer or you go direct to gif gaf voice note etc and they either text back straight away or can be an hour or so down the line yet you which to me is hardly discreet . Often you have not had a spoken word with them until you are in their place .

[paul_tall_]

It’s not unreasonable to contact a few providers if you are looking for a same day meeting . So long as it’s just an enquiry and not you suggesting you want a confirmed booking they can hardly say you are time wasting esp if it’s the same person that is running multiple ads. Certain nationalities you ring and they either don’t answer or you go direct to gif gaf voice note etc and they either text back straight away or can be an hour or so down the line text you which to me is hardly discreet . Often you have not had a spoken word with them until you are in their place .

[mancsguy1975]

It’s not unreasonable to contact a few providers if you are looking for a same day meeting . So long as it’s just an enquiry and not you suggesting you want a confirmed booking they can hardly say you are time wasting esp if it’s the same person that is running multiple ads. Certain nationalities you ring and they either don’t answer or you go direct to gif gaf voice note etc and they either text back straight away or can be an hour or so down the line yet you which to me is hardly discreet . Often you have not had a spoken word with them until you are in their place .

Exactly pal,  I had no reason to believe they were connected in any way when i was simply making an enquiry. The 2 malicious messages were both very different so I can only assume they were both different scammers operating in a 5 mile radius...

[the_exile]

You do find some VS ads for SPs who are also on Adultwork, so worth Googling numbers or other details (if this hasn't already been mentioned). Jenny who I reviewed last used to have a VS ad with very similar wording to the one on Friday Ad, with some of the same photos too.

[petermisc]

It’s not unreasonable to contact a few providers if you are looking for a same day meeting .

I agree, but 5 is a bit much all in one go, particularly if all or even most end up going to the same person.  Looked at from the perspective of the person receiving all those texts, it suggests that you were probably firing off loads more to other providers too.  So the probability of you taking up any of their offers would be very low (with 5 texts, a 1 in 5 probability at best). 

From my dealings with more reputable providers, I know that they spend a lot of their time dealing with time wasters, who repeatedly text or call but never make an appointment.  Behaving in a way that makes you look like a time waster isn't going to do you any favours.

I must admit that I was surprised that so many of the ads in the area I visited were apparently all for the same gaff.  But that is how some of these places work.  You need to be aware of it, and tailor your enquiries accordingly.

[WAP]

I’ve learnt to generally trust the Brazilian vivastreet providers. They are usually either the girl in the photo or similar. Unlike Roms they aren’t hardened professionals and are usually regular girl next doors in their 20s coming over to work for 3 months on a visa. Make some money and go back home. I’ve had some of my best GFE experiences with them.

Regarding reviewing - now that VS has an ID account tag we could start keeping track at least the provider/agency to either track the individual SP or the provider if a B&S type.