for those are single and punting .

[london]

Hi guys
Sorry for un usual post but I think you guys will understated my point better than anyone else.
I am single and enjoying my life with work. Gym .holiday and obvously punting . Sometime I meet girls in parties , clubs or introduce by friend . I really can't trust any woman anymore after few years punting.Not about sex , main think I don't believe relation anymore .
I look at all woman as working girl. I have seen few girls in this job which If I see them outside this job I wouldn't believe they are an escort .

But after years punting I think any woman potentially can be escort if they have the opportunity to make money by sex .

Anyone thinking same as me here ? 

[Sailormack]

Hi guys
Sorry for un usual post but I think you guys will understated my point better than anyone else.
I am single and enjoying my life with work. Gym .holiday and obvously punting . Sometime I meet girls in parties , clubs or introduce by friend . I really can't trust any woman anymore after few years punting.Not about sex , main think I don't believe relation anymore .
I look at all woman as working girl. I have seen few girls in this job which If I see them outside this job I wouldn't believe they are an escort .

But after years punting I think any woman potentially can be escort if they have the opportunity to make money by sex .

Anyone thinking same as me here ?

Where are you from originally mate?

[london]

Brazil

[SmackmaBitchUp]

No and no... Not all women are the same just like men. Escorts do it for a reason, a fair few due to past issues. You should try to see the difference between a relationship and a punt. This business is just that... Business, money and gratification .
Oh yes I am the next Saviour 

[london]

No and no... Not all women are the same just like men. Escorts do it for a reason, a fair few due to past issues. You should try to see the difference between a relationship and a punt. This business is just that... Business, money and gratification .
Oh yes I am the next Saviour 

It is easy to say that,

let me give you 2 example :

I used to have a business account 3 years ago in Liverpool street , my account manager was a girl around 24 years old which she was very professional with great attitude,

ones I booked a girl in hotel and she turn up to my room , well , we both shock , nothing happened , we agreed to do not talk about with anyone and I closed my account and moved to other branch and never meet her again ,

I really like that girl and If I was thinking to have relation then she could be one of them I could think about it , but she become escort girl while she was from good family and has good job

other example :

I love music and used to do some DJ staff just for fun couple years ago , I used to see a couple ( both from Bulgaria ) which come to the club I used to play ,

these 2 were fantastic couple , both beautiful and fit and I remember everyone telling them you 2 are lovely couple . I know them very well because later both become my student in Salsa dance ,

after few month I went to see a girl in somewhere in London and I met that girl and I was shock, she was doing this while she was with her BF, but this time after that bank manager I told myself fk it , I will fuck her , I was with her more than 10 times and she was fk able girl and she still is in AW but not in London any more.

well .. these 2 examples always in my mind plus few similar issues that completely put me off from relation and thinking all girls are WG

 

[SmackmaBitchUp]

Fuck so it is true...... Its a small world! 

[Quesadilla]

Err...what exactly is wrong with WG's? They are still women, still human beings, still have the same wants, needs, desires as others - they are just more highly sexed, more open-minded and more pragmatic.

You are a complete knob-end if you met a wg that you fancied from "civvy life" and wouldn't pursue a relationship just because she's a WG.  Being a WG is a practical choice that many women make.

I have a number of regulars who either have day jobs or study - they are naturally highly sexual women who would be out banging strangers ANYWAY because they just love lots of sex.  The ones who are students find that the "boys" that want to bang them cannot even afford to buy them a drink let alone a nice meal.  For those with day jobs the working world totally discriminates against them - they can have the same qualifications as any man and are almost guaranteed to earn less.  Talk about discouraging.

I cannot see a single good reason why I wouldn't be a WG if I enjoy sex and am going to go out and get pulled anyway.  The only reason NOT to is social stigma which is nothing more than conservative / religious hypocrisy.

I have huge amounts of respect for WG's on the whole.  At least they are honest!

[justfornow]

+1 Quesadilla

Problem with a wg GF would be mostly the fact that people ( me too ) don't like to share:D We automatically associate exclusivity with a relationship.
Rest is just learned social stigma. I wouldn't want my mother or sister to be a wg but i wouldn't want them to work at some grease factory like mcdonalds either.
punting is punting and relationship is relationship.
Personally i'm wondering if WG girlfriend would be hard to please in private life and if she would be fucking worse same or better than with a client

Don't get paranoid. Generalizing from 2 examples is just illogical, these girls are an exception. Pick random girl form the crowd and there's a good chance she would be proof that not all girls are wgs.

[yorkshire123]

You are a complete knob-end if you met a wg that you fancied from "civvy life" and wouldn't pursue a relationship just because she's a WG. 

I will add that to my list of failings then, I'm a knob-end 
I love women but a relationship with a WG would be a totally out of the question.

[maxxblue]

Err...what exactly is wrong with WG's? They are still women, still human beings, still have the same wants, needs, desires as others - they are just more highly sexed, more open-minded and more pragmatic.

Don't agree with you here. Some WG's might be highly sexed, open-minded etc, but some won't be. Some are WG's because they like the money, not the sex. Just check out SAAFE and the variety of views will confirm this.

You are a complete knob-end if you met a wg that you fancied from "civvy life" and wouldn't pursue a relationship just because she's a WG.  Being a WG is a practical choice that many women make.

Some people would not want a relationship in which their partner had ten cocks up them every day. Some might not mind, but those who do are not a "complete knob-end" in my view.

I have a number of regulars who either have day jobs or study - they are naturally highly sexual women who would be out banging strangers ANYWAY because they just love lots of sex.  The ones who are students find that the "boys" that want to bang them cannot even afford to buy them a drink let alone a nice meal.  For those with day jobs the working world totally discriminates against them - they can have the same qualifications as any man and are almost guaranteed to earn less.  Talk about discouraging.

I cannot see a single good reason why I wouldn't be a WG if I enjoy sex and am going to go out and get pulled anyway.  The only reason NOT to is social stigma which is nothing more than conservative / religious hypocrisy.

I have huge amounts of respect for WG's on the whole.  At least they are honest!

Some WG's are honest. Some are manipulative, lying and untrustworthy - you just can't generalise like you do.

[CBPaul]

I'm not single but I am punting, fuck it 50% right so here goes.

No, OP, I don't view every woman as a prossie. You've bumped into a couple that you have had contact with in their lives outside of being a prossie but that's no basis for viewing all as prossies and thus avoiding civvy relationships. Are you sure it's not just an excuse for avoiding a civvy relationship and it's your punting activities instead ?

Not every women can be a prossie, just like not every bloke can be a punter. It's not a case of women thinking I need more money, I'll become a prossie at weekends, easy money. If it was then my punting area wouldn't have such a piss poor selection.

[akauya]

But after years punting I think any woman potentially can be escort if they have the opportunity to make money by sex .

Just like every man can be, potentially, a murderer.

Just like every woman can be, potentially, a murderer.

Just like every man can be, potentially, a punter.

Just like every dog can, potentially, bite its owner.

Just like every catholic priest can be, potentially, a child molester.

Potentially.... anyone can be anything but generally, they are not.

[Quesadilla]

Err...what exactly is wrong with WG's? They are still women, still human beings, still have the same wants, needs, desires as others - they are just more highly sexed, more open-minded and more pragmatic.

Don't agree with you here. Some WG's might be highly sexed, open-minded etc, but some won't be. Some are WG's because they like the money, not the sex. Just check out SAAFE and the variety of views will confirm this.

I've read SAAFE and lots of girls get told - "if you don't enjoy sex why the fuck do this job" and are advised to get out of it.  Of course some are going to like it more than others, but if a WG genuinely does not have a higher than average sex drive - or actually doesn't like sex - I don't see her lasting long in a job where she gets fucked daily!  I will however correct my rather sweeping statement and say "most WG's are more highly sexed...".  I can only speak from personal experience - and I have personally never experienced a WG who does not enjoy her work and have no desire to.  If you're regularly seeing the other kind you really need to do more homework here! 

You are a complete knob-end if you met a wg that you fancied from "civvy life" and wouldn't pursue a relationship just because she's a WG.  Being a WG is a practical choice that many women make.

Some people would not want a relationship in which their partner had ten cocks up them every day. Some might not mind, but those who do are not a "complete knob-end" in my view.

You're entitled to your view wrong though it is in this instance.  The OP clearly stated that this was a part time WG with a decent day job - when exactly is she going to fit ten cocks up her???  Unless she does a lunchtime special in the staff canteen!??!    This was a girl he fancied.  For all he knew she was between boyfriends and rather than being bored and shagging random strangers for nothing she was being entrepreneurial and earning some extra cash on the side.  The fact that he didn't even try to find out makes him a complete knob-end in my view.  A missed opportunity that will never come around again. 

Just to check though - do you think it's ok for married guys to put their cocks in multiple WG's (as the vast majority here do) but not for their partners - whether as WG's or otherwise?  At least a WG is honest about what she's doing.  That would be a rather narrow-minded and misogynistic attitude wouldn't it?  Someone who thought like that would be a pretty cheesy knob-end as well IMHO.

Some WG's are honest. Some are manipulative, lying and untrustworthy - you just can't generalise like you do.

Err...yes I can.  ALL human beings are manipulative, lying and untrustworthy - it's just a question of degree as there are no absolutes.  And that has quite literally nothing to do with what I said.  A WG is by definition pragmatic, open-minded (about sex) and honest (about sex). 

[Sparquin]

Cock on, Quesadilla!

[Curious6705]

Hi guys
Sorry for un usual post but I think you guys will understated my point better than anyone else.
I am single and enjoying my life with work. Gym .holiday and obvously punting . Sometime I meet girls in parties , clubs or introduce by friend . I really can't trust any woman anymore after few years punting.Not about sex , main think I don't believe relation anymore .
I look at all woman as working girl. I have seen few girls in this job which If I see them outside this job I wouldn't believe they are an escort .

But after years punting I think any woman potentially can be escort if they have the opportunity to make money by sex .

Anyone thinking same as me here ?

Not me. When you analyse anything there's a general case and a special case - the special case being a tiny proportion. WGs are a special case, and a tiny proportion. I'm really glad they exist, but IMO they are not to be confused with women in general.

[myothernameis]

Would it all depend on the girls circumstance's

Most of the girls in my work, would never consider escorting as occupation, even if it is easy and quick money to be made

Now apart from me, there another guy in the work, who punts, and some of the girls know, and it intrigued them, why he does this, and how much per month he spends

So now some of the girls have began to think, how much money could I make, and would it be more than what I get paid now

None of them, that I know of have made the move to escorting, but if they fell on hard times, think it could easily happen, and with job cuts coming in our store next year, those colleagues who were in last may be tone of the first to go

[london]

Thanks for all comment , 

sorry if I didn't explain very well , some of comments not related to my Q 

but best comment was from Akauya

Just like every man can be, potentially, a murderer.

Just like every woman can be, potentially, a murderer.

Just like every man can be, potentially, a punter.

Just like every dog can, potentially, bite its owner.

Just like every catholic priest can be, potentially, a child molester.

Potentially.... anyone can be anything but generally, they are not.

[Jimmyredcab]

Err...what exactly is wrong with WG's? They are still women, still human beings.

I agree, however you would not be happy if your daughter/sister decided to be a WG.       

[Aspen]

Hi guys
Sorry for un usual post but I think you guys will understated my point better than anyone else.
I am single and enjoying my life with work. Gym .holiday and obvously punting . Sometime I meet girls in parties , clubs or introduce by friend . I really can't trust any woman anymore after few years punting.Not about sex , main think I don't believe relation anymore .
I look at all woman as working girl. I have seen few girls in this job which If I see them outside this job I wouldn't believe they are an escort .

But after years punting I think any woman potentially can be escort if they have the opportunity to make money by sex .

Anyone thinking same as me here ?

Potentially yes, but not many can actually bring themselves to do it. I think most fantacise about doing it though.

It seems as though you are so disillusioned with trying to maintain relationships that you've become more satisfied with just punting. I can relate to that because it's more simple and you don't have to jump through hoops all the time to keep a partner happy - if you even have one. (And like you, after some negative experiences I find it very difficult to trust women beyond a certain point). But unless you're wealthy it's not a long term solution. Just a gap filler. But if you have no choice then it is better than no sex life at all.

[Lilywhite]

I agree, however you would not be happy if your daughter/sister decided to be a WG.       

Rather that than them sponging off you for the duration of their 20's 

[Quesadilla]

I agree, however you would not be happy if your daughter/sister decided to be a WG.       

Don't have either a daughter or a sister but I don't have double standards either.  There are a number of escorts I see who are paying their way through uni and seem psychologically very healthy and happy, treat this as a business, and I'm quite impressed with them so have no issues with anyone who chooses this - as long as it's a free choice and not something they feel forced into.

If I had a daughter it's unlikely she would ever "need" to escort simply to pay the bills as I do pretty well and would make sure she had plenty of alternatives.  But that's quite different to the situation where she wanted to do it because she loved sex and would otherwise just be banging random boys - wankers with not a cent to their name who most likely would not treat her right, and would likely be banging others and taking little or no precautions - therefore far more likely to give her STD's etc. If that's the alternative then I'd definitely rather she was escorting, as long as she was smart about it and doing everything sensibly. 

Having been on this forum and SAAFE I could at least provide some decent advice on how best to go about escorting safely. It would get her off my back for spending money and give me more cash for my hobby so a double bonus!     

This seems to be more and more prevalent with sugardaddy type sites and even "regular" dating sites encouraging this kind of thing - "WhatsYourPrice.com" being the latest example where the lines blur between dating and escorting. 

[Sienna_Bronze]

I agree, however you would not be happy if your daughter/sister decided to be a WG.       

I hear this soooo often! Why would I be bothered if my daughter became a wg? Now obviously we all want our kids to be doctors, lawyers and have amazing lives but the reality is not everybody is so lucky. IF my daughter wanted to become a wg I would wholeheartedly support her. Some people have such double standards.

[yorkshire123]

I agree, however you would not be happy if your daughter/sister decided to be a WG.       

 

I hear this soooo often! Why would I be bothered if my daughter became a wg? Now obviously we all want our kids to be doctors, lawyers and have amazing lives but the reality is not everybody is so lucky. IF my daughter wanted to become a wg I would wholeheartedly support her. Some people have such double standards.

Been happy about it & been a supportive parent are usually two different things. I just love a prossie that comes onto a punters forum & spouts double standards aimed at the very customers that pay to shag them, If Gerald Ratner was a pimp you would fit right into his stable 

[Thepacifist]

I'm single and punting. I go back and forth these days whether i want to pursue a relationship or not. I would never go out with a WG, that's for sure. If i'm in a relationship then i base that on trust and loyalty. I wouldn't want to share her with anyone. If i was ever cheated on i would dump them immediately. If i had a daughter i wouldn't want her to be a WG. Would i want a son to be a punter? It's interesting to think about. I feel like i'd rather be single. I don't want to have a child or get married, have half my earning stolen from me and child support over my head. I'm far too selfish. I live this 1 life for me. Just because you're physically attracted to a WG doesn't mean you're emotionally or spiritually compatible. I refuse to compromise anymore. I know who i am and what i like and will not be changed by anyone but myself.

[Sienna_Bronze]

Well yes me being a wg would be extremely hypocritical if I turned round to my kids and said 'no it's not ok to do this' my comment wasn't aimed at punters since they don't do what I do. They would have doubts standards if they didn't want their kids to do what they do.

[thefoxman]

Most of the girls in my work, would never consider escorting as occupation, even if it is easy and quick money to be made

Lol -  they definitely wouldn't tell you if they did anyway.

The OP may have been "unucky" in comng across two WGs from his civvy life

I don't think punting has made me trust women less, but its made me more choosy,
and less likely to be manipulated / swayed by promise of sex with civvy women.
- I'm less desperate !

Many are non-plussed when their usual tricks don't work

[unclesweetheart]

Err...what exactly is wrong with WG's? They are still women, still human beings, still have the same wants, needs, desires as others - they are just more highly sexed, more open-minded and more pragmatic.

You are a complete knob-end if you met a wg that you fancied from "civvy life" and wouldn't pursue a relationship just because she's a WG.  Being a WG is a practical choice that many women make.

I have a number of regulars who either have day jobs or study - they are naturally highly sexual women who would be out banging strangers ANYWAY because they just love lots of sex.  The ones who are students find that the "boys" that want to bang them cannot even afford to buy them a drink let alone a nice meal.  For those with day jobs the working world totally discriminates against them - they can have the same qualifications as any man and are almost guaranteed to earn less.  Talk about discouraging.

I cannot see a single good reason why I wouldn't be a WG if I enjoy sex and am going to go out and get pulled anyway.  The only reason NOT to is social stigma which is nothing more than conservative / religious hypocrisy.

I have huge amounts of respect for WG's on the whole.  At least they are honest!

+1. The WGs I've talked to about this are all very highly sexed, demonstrably enjoy sex, and are not unreasonably making that work financially for them. It's refreshing to talk to women who are, as Q says, so honest about their polyamourousness. I've got a great deal of respect for the women I've seen too, and would be bloody delighted to have one as a partner. In my dreams, of course!

[cunnyhunt]

I've got a great deal of respect for the women I've seen too, and would be bloody delighted to have one as a partner.

Until your money ran out

That is the reality. 

[london]

Forget about dougter and sister

What will happen if you find your wife or GF did or doing escorts ?

Still you will act like a open mind person and tell her : honey you are my wife/GF and that is your business and I will support you ?

[Sailormack]

Forget about dougter and sister

What will happen if you find your wife or GF did or doing escorts ?

Still you will act like a open mind person and tell her : honey you are my wife/GF and that is your business and I will support you ?

She is more likely to be angry that you spent money on a pro$$ie that you should have spent on her.

She probably couldn't care less that you wet your dick 

[Sailormack]

I would say that most women partake in the art of prostitution.

The exceptions are so rare that you only find them riding unicorns with hen's dentists.

 

[Silver Birch]

I hear this soooo often! Why would I be bothered if my daughter became a wg? Now obviously we all want our kids to be doctors, lawyers and have amazing lives but the reality is not everybody is so lucky. IF my daughter wanted to become a wg I would wholeheartedly support her. Some people have such double standards.

You are right, many people DO have double standards.

Apart from the obvious (I pay them & fuck them) I never treat wgs like some 2nd class citizens and have respect for most of those who I have met. I had a fascination with the world of prostitutes long before I became a punter but have become non judgmental of those women simply because of the path they have chosen.

However, I would be deeply ashamed if I had to admit to my family & friends that a daughter of mine had become a prostitute. I would not abandon her, but would not be supportive in her continuing!

For balance, I would also feel ashamed if I were exposed as a punter too.

[Quesadilla]

Forget about dougter and sister

What will happen if you find your wife or GF did or doing escorts ?

Still you will act like a open mind person and tell her : honey you are my wife/GF and that is your business and I will support you ?

If I do decide to have a civvy relationship again it would ONLY be with a woman who is very pragmatic and open-minded about sex, so exactly the type of woman who would want to have lots of sex. I am not convinced monogamy is the way to go - so I would encourage her to go with me to swinging clubs, fetish groups etc.  My ideal would be a woman who is bisexual and wants to get other women involved but you can't always get what you want.

Any wife / gf of mine certainly wouldn't need to escort for the money but if she wanted to try escorting just to see what it was like to have random strangers fuck her for money I could hardly argue. I love the thrill of fucking random women for money so it would be hypocritical of me to object and one thing I cannot stand is a hypocrite.   

[SmackmaBitchUp]

I support Sienna Bronze only because I want to meet her 

[Aspen]

I think it helps if you understand that the vast majority of women regard sex as a useful bargaining chip. Prostitutes turn it directly into real cash. So called loving relationships invariably (but not always) deteriorate into the bargain senario. How anyone would want to fast track that process by becoming romantically involved with a WG beats me. Most men spend most of their adult lives seeking sex, and most women spend a similar amount of time and effort avoiding it and/or using it to extract favours financial or otherwise in return. I think it's a real shame that most people face this adversarial situation for much of their lives. Those that manage to escape it are fortunate indeed. But there are very few of them on the planet, male or female.

At the end of the day, the purpose of punting is to satisfy a need, and the purpose of whoring is to satisfy a need for money. Power and manipulation fit into both sides of that equation somewhere. Come to terms with all that and you feel less stressed about the whole thing, even where it involves relatives and friends doing it. We have evolved into this pattern of behaviour and there's no escape from that.

[myothernameis]

What will happen if you find your wife or GF did or doing escorts ?

What happens if you book her, and you ask her to do an outcall to your place, does she turn up knowing she going to her own place

[The_Don]

I don't really care if I had a partner that also was a W/G (as long as she was safe and happy with her work)

No matter what job you do (male/female) you are paid for you're time and skill set (on a basic level)

Its not easy in life to find a job that pays well (and the person enjoys) but doesn't take it toll (on the person doing it). Its offend a trade off to get the balance right.

Some of the best jobs; I've had paid very little. What often makes the difference is the people you work with and meet!

I have friend(s) that have taken 60 % + pay drops (some times changing jobs totally, but not all changed the profession and area of work). Why the balance wasn't correct with work/life.

For me its the same. I used to work with a Girl (she asked me out but at the time I was more focused on work). She now is a W/G because the job she did (in the same are as me) wasn't for her and she broke up with her partner.

[Aspen]

What happens if you book her, and you ask her to do an outcall to your place, does she turn up knowing she going to her own place

It's bound to have happened. I've read several accounts of girls getting bookings from close relatives and friends.

[Quesadilla]

For me its the same. I used to work with a Girl (she asked me out but at the time I was more focused on work). She now is a W/G because the job she did (in the same are as me) wasn't for her and she broke up with her partner.

Have you been to see her yet? ; )

[Aspen]

For me its the same. I used to work with a Girl (she asked me out but at the time I was more focused on work). She now is a W/G because the job she did (in the same are as me) wasn't for her and she broke up with her partner.

Most of them do it because they are useless at doing anything else to make enough money to support themselves. I've not met one yet that does it because they like the career path.

[The_Don]

Have you been to see her yet? ; )

No and may not (she just didn't do it for me) 

The only reason I found her:

I was searching A/W and notice a W/G, paid for the P/G (as she looked like that girl from work) and bang (confirmed). She only does outcalls and still is contact with others (from work) on facebook. 

[mcardle464]

+1 Quesadilla

You make some very interesting points.

[Quesadilla]

No and may not (she just didn't do it for me) 

The only reason I found her:

I was searching A/W and notice a W/G, paid for the P/G (as she looked like that girl from work) and bang (confirmed). She only does outcalls and still is contact with others (from work) on facebook. 

Go on then, post a link, we can at least report back...

[Aspen]

Go on then, post a link, we can at least report back...

If he practised what he preaches he would have already done that - lol

[greychap]

Hi guys
Sorry for un usual post but I think you guys will understated my point better than anyone else.
I am single and enjoying my life with work. Gym .holiday and obvously punting . Sometime I meet girls in parties , clubs or introduce by friend . I really can't trust any woman anymore after few years punting.Not about sex , main think I don't believe relation anymore .
I look at all woman as working girl. I have seen few girls in this job which If I see them outside this job I wouldn't believe they are an escort .

But after years punting I think any woman potentially can be escort if they have the opportunity to make money by sex .

Anyone thinking same as me here ?

Any woman could be an escort just like any man could be a punter you mean????

[The_Don]

If he practised what he preaches he would have already done that - lol

?

So please enlighten me, what exactly are you referring to pray tell!