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Offline Jimmyredcab

I was reading the International Sex Guide the other night, one monger suggested that the best days of punting in Brazil are over, the economy has picked up and that has led to far higher prices for girls and hotels.   :( :(

Offline Jerboa

I was reading the International Sex Guide the other night, one monger suggested that the best days of punting in Brazil are over, the economy has picked up and that has led to far higher prices for girls and hotels.   :( :(

So then why are there lots of Brazilian girls In London?

Offline Jimmyredcab

So then why are there lots of Brazilian girls In London?


Working holiday.  ??????????

I doubt they would get £150 an hour in Brazil.

When I checked out hotels in Rio anything half decent was £80+ a night.

Offline 1234

So then why are there lots of Brazilian girls In London?

Exchange rate and access to easy credit here.

A few years ago you'd get 5.9 reais to the pound, now, if you're lucky it's about 2.7.

Brazil are now having a revival big time. It is pretty much based on debt, but they are very rich in natural resources.

The average Brazillian earns about 300-400 Reais a month (shop job), whilst someone else can earn 10000 reais a month (decentish job in University etc). This makes the buying of simple things like shoes VERY expensive for the average Brazillian, and they usually pay over 10-12 months for 95% of the stuff they buy.

Loans are often at 50-70% interest rates.

IMO Brazillians are first class pople with a complete and utter corrupt political/justice system to the core.

Offline Jimmyredcab

I have no idea of the current rares in Rio but guys who pay £3 an hour in Pattaya (based on a 10 hour overnighter) will be in for a shock if they visit Brazil.    :scare:

Offline Marmalade

I was reading the International Sex Guide the other night, one monger suggested that the best days of punting in Brazil are over, the economy has picked up and that has led to far higher prices for girls and hotels.   :( :(

It's full of shite just now from guys with too much dosh or who ride everywhere in taxis and who just go into the expensive termas. Read people like Sperto and you get the honest deal. Plenty of girls still charging 1 Real a minute. There used to be four reals to the £ and now there's only two point something but they are still a good deal. Personally I don;t give a shit - the more they tell people it's too expensive to go, the less fat Americans talking in loud voices and throwing money around and spoiling it for everyone else.

The point of the newspaper story was to show the different attitudes to acceptability. But if you go to the high end termas yes, you will pay ridiculous money. For many fat arses, the high end termas are Brasil (full sad stop) so they are pissed and telling everyone it's too expensive to go there.

Same with hotels, though I admit it is harder for a beginner. I used to give out lots of advice but the same thing will happen as is happening i8n Edinburgh - I can hardly book my own best favourites cos they are choc-a-bloc. How often does anyone give me any useful pointers?? Better just to pass on stuff to friends or info about stuff you've finished shagging sometimes. Sorry, but that's the way it is! The info is all available if people look. Why lead people by the hand if they can't be bothered to RTFF?? Part of the adventure is finnding out

Offline 1234

I have no idea of the current rares in Rio but guys who pay £3 an hour in Pattaya (based on a 10 hour overnighter) will be in for a shock if they visit Brazil.    :scare:

A pair of NIKE trainers can cost 500 reais in any half decent mall.  :scare:

Big Mac = 15 Reais  :scare:

Average 10 year old shit bang car (10 years old Golf, over 100k miles, no service history) = 10,000-15, 000 reais

Mitsubishi 4x4 (new)  - 300,000-500,000 Reais  :thumbsdown:

Pizzahut pizza = 50 Reais for the shit cheese and tomatoe one  :thumbsup:

Little kid with a gun = give him 50 Reais and he's happy. Don't and he WILL shoot you.  :mad:

Offline Marmalade

Get that off the Internet, did you?  :rolleyes:

Offline 1234

******TROLL ALERT*****
 :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

Prices will have changed since I was there...the price of EVERYTHING is going up...even basics like beans and rice..it was 3 reais for a small bag of beans last time.......I honestly don't know how alot of people survive.....

I simply put down the types of prices people who actually live their need to pay for everyday stuff, which is why punting there isn't cheap in the cities. This is all my personal experience, and certainly not from the internet......

However, in the smaller places.....ahem, ahem, alot of lasses have no choice but to go into prostitution....and it is not expensive at all.

Apologies to JRC for feeding it  :thumbsdown:

A pair of NIKE trainers can cost 500 reais in any half decent mall.  :scare:

Big Mac = 15 Reais  :scare:

Average 10 year old shit bang car (10 years old Golf, over 100k miles, no service history) = 10,000-15, 000 reais

Mitsubishi 4x4 (new)  - 300,000-500,000 Reais  :thumbsdown:

Pizzahut pizza = 50 Reais for the shit cheese and tomatoe one  :thumbsup:

Little kid with a gun = give him 50 Reais and he's happy. Don't and he WILL shoot you.  :mad:

Offline Marmalade

Fair comment if it's from your experience, but it's a micro view perhaps appreciate. Prices have gone up, it is a much more expensive place to live in any ex-pat type style; but people who live there - at least people I know - certainly don't eat macdonalds and pizza hut pizzas, and neither do they shop in places like Copa if they can help it. This is puzzling for either a beginner or for someone who likes to live like a westerner in Brasil's main cities, but if you have good knowledge of the place then it is still possible to live and punt very reasonably. Since I never patronised the likes of Centaurus, I don't miss it or shake in my shoes when they start charging hundreds of R$ (or reis, before anyone corrects the spelling in previous posts, plural of 'real').

I'm not going to keep labouring the point, but saying how expensive Rio is reminds me of the auto-censored tosserd saying you have to pay £250 an hour in London. You don't. But that won't stop a lot of people from doing it. Would I recommend anyone to go to Brasil for punting - no ;). Will I keep going back every year - absolutely. :)

Offline 1234

I'm not disagreeing with you, apologies for the troll comment.

it is reais
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_real


Fair comment if it's from your experience, but it's a micro view perhaps appreciate. Prices have gone up, it is a much more expensive place to live in any ex-pat type style; but people who live there - at least people I know - certainly don't eat macdonalds and pizza hut pizzas, and neither do they shop in places like Copa if they can help it. This is puzzling for either a beginner or for someone who likes to live like a westerner in Brasil's main cities, but if you have good knowledge of the place then it is still possible to live and punt very reasonably. Since I never patronised the likes of Centaurus, I don't miss it or shake in my shoes when they start charging hundreds of R$ (or reis, before anyone corrects the spelling in previous posts, plural of 'real').

I'm not going to keep labouring the point, but saying how expensive Rio is reminds me of the auto-censored tosserd saying you have to pay £250 an hour in London. You don't. But that won't stop a lot of people from doing it. Would I recommend anyone to go to Brasil for punting - no ;). Will I keep going back every year - absolutely. :)

Offline Marmalade

I'm not disagreeing with you, apologies for the troll comment.
Thank you. Apology accepted (I hadn't realised it was aimed at me - I would probably have gone just slightly mental at you if I had realised).
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it is reais
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_real
True enough - though I can look at my spare bank notes (I just did) rather than wiki - always good to have some small change to arrive with, and of course you can't buy them as far as I know outside of Brasil. Never have any need to write it in full, my mistake. Am just back from the middle east btw - now there's a area not to punt in most countries in a hurry. Might suit James though - the woman is always wrong (unless four men testify otherwise).

Offline Jerboa

Exchange rate and access to easy credit here.

A few years ago you'd get 5.9 reais to the pound, now, if you're lucky it's about 2.7.

Brazil are now having a revival big time. It is pretty much based on debt, but they are very rich in natural resources.

The average Brazillian earns about 300-400 Reais a month (shop job), whilst someone else can earn 10000 reais a month (decentish job in University etc). This makes the buying of simple things like shoes VERY expensive for the average Brazillian, and they usually pay over 10-12 months for 95% of the stuff they buy.

Loans are often at 50-70% interest rates.

IMO Brazillians are first class pople with a complete and utter corrupt political/justice system to the core.

Based on debt and corrupt political/justice system, just like Greece & Italy then lol,  :D

Offline 1234

Based on debt and corrupt political/justice system, just like Greece & Italy then lol,  :D

To say the Brazil system is corrupt is an underuse of the term 'corrupt'. I am not familiar with the Greek or Italian systems, but would be very  :scare: if they were anything like Brazil. The Brazilian judicial system makes the Indian system look like the Supreme Court.

There really is no hope unless you are connected to the right people.

And forget business, unless you know the right people. Many-a-time I've being driving along the coast and am stopped by the 'police' (usually a Friday), and when they see I am a tourist they leave me. Friends tell me they want beer money for the weekend....it is just the way it goes for the locals.  :mad:

I was driving merrily along once in SP (near that stinky river...can't remember its name) and a police car got in between me and the car in front.....the car stopped, and these two police guys got out, literally in front of me, with guns drawn. I don't know alot about guns, but these guns were fucking HUGE. They had them firmly on the two passengers of the car in front, I was sure they would kill them there and then. The two guys got out slowly, papers were checked and police went away. Not nice.

BTW if you're driving in the evening and there's a red light - DON'T STOP, just keep going.....alot of carjackings/deaths happen because of this.

The only reason UK politicians don't do what the Indian/Brazillian politicians do is because of our Laws.

When they bin the Laws, we're fucked.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2011, 03:00:30 PM by 1234 »

Offline Marmalade

Quote from: 1234
And forget business, unless you know the right people. Many-a-time I've being driving along the coast and am stopped by the 'police' (usually a Friday), and when they see I am a tourist they leave me. Friends tell me they want beer money for the weekend....it is just the way it goes for the locals

Haven't personally been stung for this one in Brasil but have had to cough up when driving a motororbike in Thailand for the same 'Friday beer money.'

I don't know what the police get, but I wouldn't fancy being a Brasilian cop (they also get shot at in between murdering people, after all) for the wage similar to a bus driver. I never resented it too much with Thai police (and who wants to get back to their hotel room and find some drugs have been conveniently planted). Brasilian cops are simply to be avoided as there's no knowing just how bent and potentially unpleasant they are. 'Nicer' ones have tried to sell me viagra as I walk home near Prado Jnr 'scum dens'. (Like it's not available from an all-night chemist duh - they must have run out of overspending Americans stumbling out of Barbarellas).

Spot on about red lights - at least in Rio (places like Belo and Belem don't have such frantic driving and car-jacking). It's one reason though I personally prefer buses at night - yes, I know the stories, and have a near-miss with an attempted high speed bus hi-jack late evening - but look at a bus and a car after a traffic lights collusion and ask which came off worse. Brasilian buses are built like tanks (same suspension company haha) whereas a lot of taxis don't even have tread in their tyres.


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