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Offline infoseeker

...and some members struggle to paste links from AW.

I know that is what James999 was encouraging when the "band of brothers" rounded on him.  :sarcastic:
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Offline infoseeker

but it will always more of a minority than the full forum as tech is not everyone's forte

I think a better strategy is to try at least try to make it accessible to everyone.
Online communities work primarily due to a volume.

It is true that there is lots of reliance especially in this early stage on super users like you to create a framework on that basis I created stub page for all the parlours and agencies that I know of in the North West but I tried to keep the layout simple as possible so others can copy and paste without getting dizzy at the code to add to it.


I sent North Westerners a little quick PM with an exercise to edit their profile including the main code used on North West stub pages (bullet point, heading, embedded link), a total newbie to wiki managed to follow it and edit a page that is a 100 times better then me having added it for him.
In my opinon the future is to get the mass of forum contributors registered even if they just add their own links for parlour agency reviews.

Re Dale Carnegie, as a word of advice to you being a "nice" guy is heavily overated, that was one thing I learnt from James999, like him I know how to agitate and incite to achieve specific objectives on here and that is what I was doing (very well) when we last bumped into each other on the forum .... and since then North West has become a busier reviewing region then North East.  :hi:
« Last Edit: February 10, 2015, 05:08:58 PM by infoseeker »
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Offline yorkshire123

Maybe I've missed some key point or I'm been incredibly stupid but what benefit does this Wiki malarkey have for me and why should I bother signing up  :unknown:
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Offline Admin

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Maybe I've missed some key point or I'm been incredibly stupid but what benefit does this Wiki malarkey have for me and why should I bother signing up  :unknown:

If you don't want to help out other punters then yes don't bother to signup and add info  :rolleyes:

Offline infoseeker

Maybe I've missed some key point or I'm been incredibly stupid but what benefit does this Wiki malarkey have for me and why should I bother signing up  :unknown:

I can confirm yorkshire123 is one of the more helpful contributors to the North West boards.  :thumbsup:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=48592.msg640169#msg640169
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Offline Barry Shipton

.... and since then North West has become a busier reviewing region then North East.  :hi:
Which is exactly as it should be - three times the population (7.1 m v 2.5m) and three times the prossies - almost 1,900 versus almost 600 on Adultwork - so you should have three times as many reviews.

And have you been to Middlesbrough? It ain't no Liverpool (Sorry Boro lads but let's be realistic). Genuinely pleased it is working at its potential - it's not a competition as we all benefit, especially those from outside the region who are visiting and need the advice most.

You're right we do need to try to make it simple and encourage more to contribute, but it's like the debate thread on lurkers, the reality is 10/15 per cent will contribute the most while the other 85/90 percent will watch or listen.

But as it grows and people see the benefit I'm sure more will join - and I'll enjoy watching your agitating and maybe chip in now and again!

Offline yorkshire123

If you don't want to help out other punters then yes don't bother to signup and add info  :rolleyes:

Maybe I didn't explain myself, my issue isn't about helping other punters, what I'm struggling with is what does it do that the UKP forum doesn't?
I'm not that on-line savvy, is it just a way of indexing UKP content or does it hold extra information?
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Offline Barry Shipton

is it just a way of indexing UKP content or does it hold extra information?

Yes and Yes. It's basically a punting encyclopaedia - so yes it enables you to collect all the reviews together in one place in a logical order and easier to find than the search function.

And yes you can add additional info - because where the forum is great for immediate comment, the wiki is good for storing facts.

Couple of examples - there's a scamming cow in the North East always setting up fake profiles, but the crap reviews and comment threads soon go down the list and out of sight. But in the wiki you can put all that together:
http://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/Ruby_1993_(Newcastle)_

By contrast an excellent escort is Keeva, she's got dozens of good reviews but newbies still ask thing like 'which girls do anal', 'does she do duos' or 'how tall is she' without wading through the reviews it's here on one page - and you can take your time reading the smutty details of every review!
http://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/Keeva_(Amour_Escorts)_

And I should add a lot of the how to and beginners guides have been written by some very experienced members on here just for the wiki for the benefit of newcomers.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2015, 05:56:20 PM by Barry Shipton »

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what does it do that the UKP forum doesn't?

To make it easier and quicker to find the most important info, not having to trawl and search through hundreds of UKP threads.

For example if you were a London punter and wanted to quickly know your options of punting in Manchester, then PuntingWiki would have all the necessary info, listing the agencies / parlours / independents, etc.

A bit like Wikipedia, say I wanted to know about the Ford Fiesta, I'd rather check Wikipedia rather than search Google get loads of marketing / news / forum pages.

Offline akauya

Maybe I didn't explain myself, my issue isn't about helping other punters, what I'm struggling with is what does it do that the UKP forum doesn't?
I'm not that on-line savvy, is it just a way of indexing UKP content or does it hold extra information?

A further example when the wiki is good is the Soho walk ups page. Without it the Soho walk ups are a bloody minefield. You could spend all day trying to find a good prossie and getting nowhere without the help of other punters who can give you valuable info on the good and bad prossies working in Soho.

Offline infoseeker

Which is exactly as it should be - three times the population (7.1 m v 2.5m) and three times the prossies - almost 1,900 versus almost 600 on Adultwork - so you should have three times as many reviews.

There were more challenges/obstacles in the way of getting North West reviewing as it needed to be.  I dealt with them "nicely" as I could.
When you are a nice guy things always go your way... nice guys always win.... eventually.

Now try somehow to overcome the challange of getting the noisy "band of brothers" registered on the Punting Wiki.... before I do. :sarcastic: ;)

the reality is 10/15 per cent will contribute the most while the other 85/90 percent will watch or listen.

At this point there are not even 10/15 contributors.
Let us work together to increase that...

...and we have a new North West early adopter fraserlad:hi:
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Offline Admin

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There are dedicated wikis for many subjects, such as this one for networking equipment:
wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_RT-AC87U

Now I don't have the experience or expert knowledge of routers to edit pages, but that site was extremely useful to me (especially the infobox on the right) when I was looking for a router. I appreciate the time and efforts of the WikiDev contributors.

We are building something similar for punting.

Offline Barry Shipton

A further example when the wiki is good is the Soho walk ups page. Without it the Soho walk ups are a bloody minefield. You could spend all day trying to find a good prossie and getting nowhere without the help of other punters who can give you valuable info on the good and bad prossies working in Soho.
I'll second that - I didn't have a clue what a Soho walk up even though I'd seen it mentioned in long London threads. But I read Akauya's comprehensive work because it was the first content on the wiki and now I know which girls are working which flats on set days, links to their reviews and crucial advice on how to book - like not falling for the scammers outside who take cash off unsuspecting newbies. Interesting read even if you still don't have the courage to use one!
« Last Edit: February 10, 2015, 06:17:36 PM by Barry Shipton »

Offline Sedlmayer

Yes and Yes. It's basically a punting encyclopaedia - so yes it enables you to collect all the reviews together in one place in a logical order and easier to find than the search function.

And yes you can add additional info - because where the forum is great for immediate comment, the wiki is good for storing facts.

Couple of examples - there's a scamming cow in the North East always setting up fake profiles, but the crap reviews and comment threads soon go down the list and out of sight. But in the wiki you can put all that together:
http://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/Ruby_1993_(Newcastle)_

By contrast an excellent escort is Keeva, she's got dozens of good reviews but newbies still ask thing like 'which girls do anal', 'does she do duos' or 'how tall is she' without wading through the reviews it's here on one page - and you can take your time reading the smutty details of every review!
http://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/Keeva_(Amour_Escorts)_

And I should add a lot of the how to and beginners guides have been written by some very experienced members on here just for the wiki for the benefit of newcomers.

That all sounds excellent, but I fear newbies will still continue to ask those questions. It will be easier to direct them to the Wiki, however.
I also think that your feeling that it will always be a minority who contribute (the more tech-savvy ones) will also be true. After all, most members don't even submit reviews, let alone the lurkers  :mad:

Offline Sedlmayer

If you don't want to help out other punters then yes don't bother to signup and add info  :rolleyes:

For clarity, I'm really not techie at all, but will there still be a "Reviews" section on the normal forum where punters can post just as they do at present, which will be correlated on the Wiki?

My own view is that if you review every girl you see, say within a week of seeing her, then you are helping other punters, though I can see how the more tech-savvy guys are building a very good (actually unique) resource.

Offline Sedlmayer

Don't know what happened here - I told you I wasn't techie
« Last Edit: February 10, 2015, 06:37:26 PM by Sedlmayer »

Offline infoseeker

and I'll enjoy watching your agitating and maybe chip in now and again!

You just did.  ;)

Don't forget I wrote the book.


Keep an eye on this page
List of Members on the PuntingWiki


Our newest member is NightKid not from the North West but I did agitate him a bit just now (perhaps a coincidence.... unlikely though).


I'll be back  :cool:
« Last Edit: February 10, 2015, 06:44:03 PM by infoseeker »
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Offline yorkshire123

Thanks for the clarification guys, I will sign up & add to it when I feel that my input would add extra value, or when I get back home to civilisation where the internet is isn't at dial up speeds  :dash:
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Offline NightKid

Our newest member is NightKid not from the North West but I did agitate him a bit just now (perhaps a coincidence.... unlikely though).

If only others gave a crap as much as you'd like to believe.  :rolleyes:

Anyway, I still think/prefer doing a search on UKP as I feel it's a much more efficient way (and particularly because I'm all too familiar with it). But since Admin has gone on to say:

To make it easier and quicker to find the most important info, not having to trawl and search through hundreds of UKP threads.

Then I'm willing to help if it's needed, as I've promised it before.
Having made my first edit, I realise the link system is similar to/dependent on UKP and thus shares one weakness that I'd like to ask Admin about; how will you solve the issue of reviews list for non-AW girls?

Offline Ali Katt

You just did.  ;)

Don't forget I wrote the book.


Keep an eye on this page
List of Members on the PuntingWiki


Our newest member is NightKid not from the North West but I did agitate him a bit just now (perhaps a coincidence.... unlikely though).


I'll be back  :cool:
It's worth noting some members are prossies trying to get free advertising.

Offline infoseeker

NightKid, Good Job you finally signed up.  Better to be amongst the early adopters then like the "Johnny come lately" that I was talking about earlier.  ;)

how will you solve the issue of reviews list for non-AW girls?

The way I see it that is the No1 output from the PuntingWiki, easier to find collate reviews for parlour and agency girls.

For example, nenio from the North West is a dab hand he has just created a table for one of our parlours Cosmoplitan.

http://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/Cosmopolitan

Great job nenio  :hi:
« Last Edit: February 10, 2015, 11:15:09 PM by infoseeker »
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Offline Third Man

think I've created account as gazzer97, hope so anyway! done a bit wiki stuff a few years ago but I'm definitely rusty, and not sure how much use  I'll be!

Offline Barry Shipton

think I've created account as gazzer97, hope so anyway! done a bit wiki stuff a few years ago but I'm definitely rusty, and not sure how much use  I'll be!
Welcome aboard gazzer97 - good to see one of the North East 'Band of Brothers' join the team. I am sure your experience will be much welcomed :thumbsup:

Offline Admin

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For clarity, I'm really not techie at all, but will there still be a "Reviews" section on the normal forum where punters can post just as they do at present, which will be correlated on the Wiki?

Yes UKP review section stays as is.
Only links added on reviews to relevant PuntingWiki pages.
Similar to the current 'X review(s) found for this service provider'.

Offline Barry Shipton

Not sure if this helps keep tabs on members of the Prostitute Blacklist but I have just started the [[Category:Prostitute Blacklist]] and added a North East offended as the first member.

Some of the threads on the list are obviously long and as they often change profiles and names their current identities can get lost, so I set up a page for her
http://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/Naughty_Naiome_(Newcastle)_
And then linked her and other local scammers from a warning section in the main North East page about those to avoid -
http://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/North_East

Couldn't help noticing this one - Jodie J - had resurfaced in the North West and no doubt others are active. Wondered if a warning section in each region might be most effective at alerting members and if we tag them all with the Prostitute Blacklist category it's easy to generate an up to date national list of them with their current details.


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