Opinions on kommons and viva street?

[Seductivepunter]

Call me old school but I’ve always preferred to use adult work when I’ve been punting. Have had a few scenarios over the years where got a girl and she wasn’t same as photos or completely different person all together when using other sites.

I feel when I look on kommons some times that they seem just too good to be true? And the prices of some of them is astronomical. Don’t get me wrong some of these girls who wants 400/500 per hour are absolutely top notch. But not sure if I want to part ways with a deposit and try meet them and it’s not the girl in the photos. What’s everyone else opinion? Do other people prefer aw or they risk it on kommons and viva street sometimes

[Mr Sinister]

I mainly use VS and have done for years, I see many wgs not bothering with AW these day I guess due to cost. I've found being in this game long enough now to have good instincts on what's worth a gamble, what's more likely to be fake or a scammer. Punters who complain about VS and Kommons being full of fakes etc...just aren't good with using the platform

[Seductivepunter]

I mainly use VS and have done for years, I see many wgs not bothering with AW these day I guess due to cost. I've found being in this game long enough now to have good instincts on what's worth a gamble, what's more likely to be fake or a scammer. Punters who complain about VS and Kommons being full of fakes etc...just aren't good with using the platform

Yeah you right, I think just not being so naive will always help. If it looks like a scam and feels like a scam it probably is one  viva street has done me very very good as well over the years think wgs prefer the ease of use as opposed to jumping through hoops to get set up on AW and all the requirements they make

[Jonestown]

I mainly use VS and have done for years, I see many wgs not bothering with AW these day I guess due to cost. I've found being in this game long enough now to have good instincts on what's worth a gamble, what's more likely to be fake or a scammer. Punters who complain about VS and Kommons being full of fakes etc...just aren't good with using the platform

I find that if you make a determined effort to ignore the photos and concentrate on the location, price and details you are less likely to get burned.

[WelshClipper]

A very pertinent thread. It’s been something I have been pondering recently. Thanks OP 

I have always been wary of Viva St in the past. Today the new rules have basically excluded me. When the age verification rules came in, I had been a member of AW for 11 years and I suppose based on my feedback, I was automatically approved as over 18. I was automatically approved on UKP as well.

But I have never done the age approval on Viva St. I am not prepared to give them a selfie or my credit card details so I think for me that ship has sailed 

However there are other things that put me off VS. 1) The rate at which profiles disappear is much higher. Click on any review link and often the link just goes to the default page. 2) The fact that there is no way to group the reviews unlike the linking of AW reviews.

Case in point : Pinky in Doncaster. You have to put ‘Pinky Doncaster’ into search and then go through everything that UKP displays. It’s not impossible but I usually go back to the AW search by the escort number because it’s easier.

So the OP has convinced me I should probably make more of an effort with VS. Plus the response from Mr Sinister suggests there are ways to ‘vet’ the profiles for authenticity.

As I said, a very useful thread and very much appreciated

Thanks guys 

[Seductivepunter]

A very pertinent thread. It’s been something I have been pondering recently. Thanks OP 

I have always been wary of Viva St in the past. Today the new rules have basically excluded me. When the age verification rules came in, I had been a member of AW for 11 years and I suppose based on my feedback, I was automatically approved as over 18. I was automatically approved on UKP as well.

But I have never done the age approval on Viva St. I am not prepared to give them a selfie or my credit card details so I think for me that ship has sailed 



However there are other things that put me off VS. 1) The rate at which profiles disappear is much higher. Click on any review link and often the link just goes to the default page. 2) The fact that there is no way to group the reviews unlike the linking of AW reviews.

Case in point : Pinky in Doncaster. You have to put ‘Pinky Doncaster’ into search and then go through everything that UKP displays. It’s not impossible but I usually go back to the AW search by the escort number because it’s easier.

So the OP has convinced me I should probably make more of an effort with VS. Plus the response from Mr Sinister suggests there are ways to ‘vet’ the profiles for authenticity.

As I said, a very useful thread and very much appreciated

Thanks guys 

Haha for me it was the wanting to see other photos on kommons and viva street so just thought fuck it will put the card details in so I could see the “18+ “ content haha. I think viva street can be used well if is used effectively. Kommons I see too many profiles that are just the same girl with different name or even sometimes same girls with different numbers and all sorts. Lots of B&S going on there I reckon..

[WelshClipper]

Haha for me it was the wanting to see other photos on kommons and viva street so just thought fuck it will put the card details in so I could see the “18+ “ content haha. I think viva street can be used well if is used effectively. Kommons I see too many profiles that are just the same girl with different name or even sometimes same girls with different numbers and all sorts. Lots of B&S going on there I reckon..

If ever I have the courage to age proof on VS I MIGHT PM you for some pointers.

 

[exhippy]

I don't trust the ads on viva street. But in my locality (Seven sisters/Wood green) i have found the ads for asian girls are good. They are not truthful photos, the addresses and girls are never the same. But every time I have been in the last year, I have had really friendly genuine service with them - way better than most punts. And i am mid 70s too

[123124]

I sometimes check Viva street, but it seems to be 80% fake ads and 20% very low quality SPs.

I had a good punt from Viva Street once years ago but think that was just very lucky.

Kommons I find it too hard to use.

[NicholasCage]

Kommons has a pretty bad UI but in terms of which is likely to have less fakes I'd personally give that to Kommons. A lot of the SPs there are also on AW and eurogirlsescorts and other platforms. It seems Kommons is a low cost option for them to advertise.

I've seen way more fakes on vivastreet. On that site I filter by age verified, has photos and has videos. I don't bother with any profile that doesn't meet those three at least. Haven't seen any I quite like on there though but probably due to location/timing

[Bassman]

Rarely look on Kommons. I find more WG’s in VS than AW. Might be cos of their insistence on NI numbers and what not a little while ago. I don’t think they went ahead with it but I think the damage was done. VS has never been so populated.

[GreyDave]

Aw is the gold standard for me after checking on here     Viva, Pump , Craig  and the other I am always prepared to walk as its been the highist Bait n switch v Punt that there is for me.

Even this Saturday I was BnS ed but it turned out ok a few Ive not walked a few Ive run from 

[Mr Sinister]

Again my most recent review from VS, found an absolute hot gem, 100% real pictures and it being the girl in the flesh, you just need to know how to navigate the platform and ignore the obvious fakes. I also must mention it doesn't just apply here I've used similar listings sites abroad and had successful punts off them.

[NicholasCage]

Rarely look on Kommons. I find more WG’s in VS than AW. Might be cos of their insistence on NI numbers and what not a little while ago. I don’t think they went ahead with it but I think the damage was done. VS has never been so populated.

That request for NI numbers; did that happen on Kommons or AW. Can't imagine many SPs signing up after a policy like that. Then again I never really got how verification worked on these platforms. I assumed a face pic while holding a paper with information like the date and username with gallery pics that match the verification pic (basically reddit verification). Or a verification video like on xvideos.

[NicholasCage]

Again my most recent review from VS, found an absolute hot gem, 100% real pictures and it being the girl in the flesh, you just need to know how to navigate the platform and ignore the obvious fakes. I also must mention it doesn't just apply here I've used similar listings sites abroad and had successful punts off them.

That's a standard skill one ought to develop regardless of platform but some sites are just more reliable than others. I think that's what OP was enquiring about
Edit: Which area do you punt in if you don't mind me asking? I've found the quality on VS varies a lot based on location. Kommons might as well be London only

[NicholasCage]

Aw is the gold standard for me after checking on here     Viva, Pump , Craig  and the other I am always prepared to walk as its been the highist Bait n switch v Punt that there is for me.

Even this Saturday I was BnS ed but it turned out ok a few Ive not walked a few Ive run from 

Same here that's my go to. But if I wasn't using that, I'd go with angelsoflondon/divaescorts (SPs are usually on both), eurogirlsescorts.
Haven't quite punted directly from VS or Kommons but the profiles I saw on kommons matched with what was on AW; phone number and all, so I pegged Kommons as safer.

What's your experience like walking? Do SPs cause a fuss or try calling authorities/Sergeis on you for walking? I've been adverse about TOFTT because of this.
What do you do in that sort of situation? I've only walked once from a B&S (and other red flags) and did so by making an excuse of having to go to the ATM. Texted the SP I was no longer interested once I left.

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

I mainly use VS and have done for years, I see many wgs not bothering with AW these day I guess due to cost. I've found being in this game long enough now to have good instincts on what's worth a gamble, what's more likely to be fake or a scammer. Punters who complain about VS and Kommons being full of fakes etc...just aren't good with using the platform

I mainly use VS too as I love it's simplicity and most of my best and memorable punts by far, have come from VS. 

Like Mr S said the more you use the site the more you get accustomed to the signs of a fake.....(especially from other B & S reviews).

VS can be a pain at times but so can AW ie, SP's reading emails and not responding, saying phone only please but No number up, ever!..Abandoned or Not logged in

for months profiles are infuriating, etc, etc.        VivaStreet = Like - Call - Fuck.    (or walk)..

[Ron89]

I moved to vivastreet about a couple of years ago and haven’t looked back. Once you develop an eye for fake profiles it’s a great source. Many are seedy brothels mind you, but I’ve got a taste for it these days. Fucked some absolute beauties though AW definitely more reliable/better quality in general.

[Mr Sinister]

Haven't quite punted directly from VS or Kommons but the profiles I saw on kommons matched with what was on AW; phone number and all, so I pegged Kommons as safer.

What's your experience like walking? Do SPs cause a fuss or try calling authorities/Sergeis on you for walking? I've been adverse about TOFTT because of this.
What do you do in that sort of situation? I've only walked once from a B&S (and other red flags) and did so by making an excuse of having to go to the ATM. Texted the SP I was no longer interested once I left.

There's no such thing as one platform being safer then the other, there's been stories of all sorts happening to punters going for prossies off AW. An SP can kick off at any moment regardless of what platform they operate on. In all my years of punting the worst that I've had from walking is a prossie being a little disgruntled or some trying their best to tempt me to stay like flashing their bits. 

I've walked knowingly with Sergei's in the house, I've walked out a traphouse nothing happened. When it comes to walking just be confident, firm and start walking, I used to be scared to walk in my early years now I'm just honest to a wg if I'm not feeling it or there's something that I don't like from her asking a couple of questions I walk.

Safety again will come from experience in the game and being "punting smart", just making an overall assessment of the girl, the location, doing your due diligence before you head out etc....for me also there's been a lot work BTS that goes on, the legwork, recon etc....sometimes to just have the Intel to share here so other punters don't waste their time and money let alone punting myself.

I moved to vivastreet about a couple of years ago and haven’t looked back. Once you develop an eye for fake profiles it’s a great source. Many are seedy brothels mind you, but I’ve got a taste for it these days. Fucked some absolute beauties though AW definitely more reliable/better quality in general.

Yeah AW has the standardized quality but after a while nothing exciting pops up, VS has hidden gems of my tastes by the spades, i know from an old reg who told me and others I've punted with don't use AW anymore due to the cost and fuss of it all

[Bassman]

That request for NI numbers; did that happen on Kommons or AW. Can't imagine many SPs signing up after a policy like that. Then again I never really got how verification worked on these platforms. I assumed a face pic while holding a paper with information like the date and username with gallery pics that match the verification pic (basically reddit verification). Or a verification video like on xvideos.

It was AW. As for varification, AW was photos holding paper, but there might have been more to it. Either way doesn’t stop a B&S.  but that might have changed now.

[Bassman]

What are people’s tips for spotting fake profiles on VS then? I’m always on the lookout for signs of photo shop, too high end looking photos and posh settings as a warning. Some times a WG’s photos appear in 2 or 3 ads in the same area. Sometimes the same number sometimes different ones. I avoid as not sure what to make of them.

[Mr Sinister]

What are people’s tips for spotting fake profiles on VS then? I’m always on the lookout for signs of photo shop, too high end looking photos and posh settings as a warning. Some times a WG’s photos appear in 2 or 3 ads in the same area. Sometimes the same number sometimes different ones. I avoid as not sure what to make of them.

Just keep looking, your brain will adjust to it and you will just pick it up naturally eventually, I've got to the point where I've spotted a housing estate/rail line in the background of a profile pic and Google mapped it to find it matches up, just these little details you will pick up on.

Sergei/Sergio will post multiple ads of neighbouring postcodes to get captured in the searches, yes it's annoying to learn the girl isn't down the road from you but a couple of tube stops down at times.

The numbers again it's the case 1 number is used for multiple girls in the house sometimes multiple numbers for the same address.


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Obvious fake profile, general rule applies that if it looks to good be true then it probably is

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Surprisingly real profile above, I've seen her in the flesh at a lineup, now I'm starting to notice more and more Latina brothels using real pics even if Photoshop and filters have been applied.

Top pic obvious fake
2nd pic real but could also be seen as fake
3rd is the obvious grainy grimey pic you should be accustomed to by now

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[NicholasCage]

In all my years of punting the worst that I've had from walking is a prossie being a little disgruntled or some trying their best to tempt me to stay like flashing their bits. 

I've walked knowingly with Sergei's in the house, I've walked out a traphouse nothing happened. When it comes to walking just be confident, firm and start walking, I used to be scared to walk in my early years now I'm just honest to a wg if I'm not feeling it or there's something that I don't like from her asking a couple of questions I walk.

Safety again will come from experience in the game and being "punting smart", just making an overall assessment of the girl, the location, doing your due diligence before you head out etc....for me also there's been a lot work BTS that goes on, the legwork, recon etc....sometimes to just have the Intel to share here so other punters don't waste their time and money let alone punting myself.

Thanks for the insight

[petermisc]

My experiences with Kommons is that there are a lot of out of date contacts on there.  Not uncommon to see ads for girls that you know from VS and AW are no longer available.

If you see an ad on VS for a Japanese or Chinese girl, then it will 100% be a Chinese girl who looks nothing like the photo.  However, often the girl will be okay looking, and these days likely to offer a good service.  With other Asian nationalities, some times the photos are genuine (usually not too difficult to tell the too good to be trues), but these days I find the service not so good.

I have had a few good experiences with Brazilians on VS, but the success rate is not good.  The photos may be genuine, but are usually years out of date.  And the girls tend to overwork themselves, leading to a rapid falling off in enthusiasm.

If you are considering making a booking from a VS ad, do a search on the phone number first (both +44 and 0... versions). The results can be eye opening.

[SomeWhiteFella]

Hi, this has probably been discussed before but I can not find much about it. Sorry if it is a repeated post.

It seems the general idea is to stick to AW for finding girls but I keep seeing the same girls appear, most I don't have interest in or charge too much.

So I had ventured down the VivaStreet and Kommons route, but they all seem too good to be true.

Has anyone had a VivaStreet punt that was not a bait and switch? and she looked as good as per profile?
I did a number of VS punts before joining here and every single one was a bait and switch (So I gave up punting)
A few BS happened to be good but after a handful I started to just walk as the surprise was not always a good thing.

Does anyone use Kommons? What is your success rate like? Has their service been any good?
I have had one punt from Kommons, she was who she advertised, just filtered and provided the worst punting experience I have ever encountered.
It looks like Kommons is full of Brasilian girls only, are they all from the same pimp or something?
The prices seem cheaper on Kommons than on AW, makes me wonder if they are new or just providing a shit service :-\

From my limited experience:
VivaStreet = Bait and switch scams
Kommons = Disgraceful service
AW = Safer and highest chance of a decent experience

Still a part of me is tempted when looking at VS and Kommons but that bait and switch pisses me off.
But more importantly(or is it?) the quality of service can be completely shit and they can disappear and create a new advert without the possibility to leave feedback on that platform.
Yes you can leave feedback for them on here, but with VS they move city and the advert link no longer works or they use a new name. With Kommons you can not link directly to the advert. This makes it easier for the WG to dip and slide away to only repeat a shit service for other punters.

I feel like the response here will be... stick to AW.
But I am curious about others success and thoughts regarding VS and Kommons.
Yes I have searched and it appears there are many positives for those platforms, but how was I getting the BS every time if everyone else is getting full positives ?

[john122350]

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=447563.0

[daviemac]

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=447563.0

I've merged them.

[OliverK]

Sorry. Question already answered so post deleted.

[OliverK]

But more importantly(or is it?) the quality of service can be completely shit and they can disappear and create a new advert without the possibility to leave feedback on that platform.
Yes you can leave feedback for them on here, but with VS they move city and the advert link no longer works or they use a new name. With Kommons you can not link directly to the advert. This makes it easier for the WG to dip and slide away to only repeat a shit service for other punters.

This is an important point. When ads just vanish overnight on VS there's no accountability, whereas new SPs on AW want to build up their review count in order to portray consistency of service.
They have to maintain a good standard in order to cement a good reputation so it keeps them honest.

[Colston36]

I moved to vivastreet about a couple of years ago and haven’t looked back. Once you develop an eye for fake profiles it’s a great source. Many are seedy brothels mind you, but I’ve got a taste for it these days. Fucked some absolute beauties though AW definitely more reliable/better quality in general.

The seedier the better.

[brandnewday75]

I always wonder about the Vivastreet profiles, lots on there in the 250/300/350 zone showing great looking women, mostly on Oxford street which is odd! lol. Prices make sense but they still look TGTBT.

The profiles always look suspicious though, mainly because the text in the description doesn’t match the profile summary at all.

Kommons is littered with fake Instagram girl photos. I’ve used Yandex multiple times and linked images to insta or OF girls very easily.

I do laugh with the Kommons listings though for most of the Brazilian listings. The first 5 pictures are usually of a really hot woman, then the final 2 tend to be the real person….as if we wouldn’t notice!

I’ve used Kommons maybe 5 times, every time has been a B&S so I’ve walked, and I would say the pictures have not been TGTBT they look like candid selfies etc. they are just well chosen stolen ones!

However I can understand why these sites are being used, I don’t know how much AW is for the girls to use but in recent years it’s been my most realistic source.

[Bassman]

Hi, this has probably been discussed before but I can not find much about it. Sorry if it is a repeated post.

It seems the general idea is to stick to AW for finding girls but I keep seeing the same girls appear, most I don't have interest in or charge too much.

So I had ventured down the VivaStreet and Kommons route, but they all seem too good to be true.

Has anyone had a VivaStreet punt that was not a bait and switch? and she looked as good as per profile?
I did a number of VS punts before joining here and every single one was a bait and switch (So I gave up punting)
A few BS happened to be good but after a handful I started to just walk as the surprise was not always a good thing.

Does anyone use Kommons? What is your success rate like? Has their service been any good?
I have had one punt from Kommons, she was who she advertised, just filtered and provided the worst punting experience I have ever encountered.
It looks like Kommons is full of Brasilian girls only, are they all from the same pimp or something?
The prices seem cheaper on Kommons than on AW, makes me wonder if they are new or just providing a shit service :-\

From my limited experience:
VivaStreet = Bait and switch scams
Kommons = Disgraceful service
AW = Safer and highest chance of a decent experience

Still a part of me is tempted when looking at VS and Kommons but that bait and switch pisses me off.
But more importantly(or is it?) the quality of service can be completely shit and they can disappear and create a new advert without the possibility to leave feedback on that platform.
Yes you can leave feedback for them on here, but with VS they move city and the advert link no longer works or they use a new name. With Kommons you can not link directly to the advert. This makes it easier for the WG to dip and slide away to only repeat a shit service for other punters.

I feel like the response here will be... stick to AW.
But I am curious about others success and thoughts regarding VS and Kommons.
Yes I have searched and it appears there are many positives for those platforms, but how was I getting the BS every time if everyone else is getting full positives ?

All my viva street punts have been legit, bar 1 maybe but I might be remembering it wrong. I don’t think it was VS in fact. AW I have had b&s a few times. Not used kommons but multiple girls have had ads in all three sites. I would assume kommons has the higher chance of b&s due to, as stated above, the number of influencer type photos.

[Ron89]

AW by far the least common for B&S, then VS then Kommons. Wouldn’t say there’s much in it between the latter two, both as bad as each other. VS is littered with fake profiles.

[Lush1pot]

This week I contacted lots of girls from vivastreet, different locations and all of them were only in that location for a couple of days and then were leaving the Uk or moving location.

[Mr Sinister]

This week I contacted lots of girls from vivastreet, different locations and all of them were only in that location for a couple of days and then were leaving the Uk or moving location.

Another thing you see something that looks legit and to your tastes then I advise you move quick and punt her because yes she may only be around for a week or so, even days

[exhippy]

I have been using viva street for a couple of months for Asian girls in the north London area. I knew they would not be the girls in the photos so i took pot luck. I have to say out of about 10 girls, only 1 of the women was a waste of time. I saw one twice and she actually remembered me. Most of them were actually good punts who were keen to provide good service. Prices were always £100 for an hour plus optional £20 for DFK and £20 for ow. There was a lack of English though

[Bassman]

I have been using viva street for a couple of months for Asian girls in the north London area. I knew they would not be the girls in the photos so i took pot luck. I have to say out of about 10 girls, only 1 of the women was a waste of time. I saw one twice and she actually remembered me. Most of them were actually good punts who were keen to provide good service. Prices were always £100 for an hour plus optional £20 for DFK and £20 for ow. There was a lack of English though

Good to know. I often see these ads in north London and wonder if I should try my luck.