WG offering sex for accommodation(?!)

[MJ.spritzen]

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Stumbled upon Willow-affair last year. She was, she claims, in a sexless marriage and escorting in secret to get off. Made enquiries at the time when I was last in London but nothing came of it. She messaged me recently out the blue asking if I'd be willing to get her pregnant so she can get a flat(???).
Profile claims she's now living in her nan's on a blow up bed.

Looks like a scam, or she really hasn't thought things through in life.

[RandomGuy99]

Swerve

[puntingking]

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Stumbled upon Willow-affair last year. She was, she claims, in a sexless marriage and escorting in secret to get off. Made enquiries at the time when I was last in London but nothing came of it. She messaged me recently out the blue asking if I'd be willing to get her pregnant so she can get a flat(???).
Profile claims she's now living in her nan's on a blow up bed.

Looks like a scam, or she really hasn't thought things through in life.

abit unfair that if a man was asking for a female to live with him rent free in exchange for sexual services then he would get in trouble for that.
But I suspect she would not get in trouble for what she says on her aw profile.

Double standards. 


More to the point - if a man contacts her agree to allow her to stay with him in exchange for sex, I would also expect him to get the telling off while she walks away scott free even though it was her idea 

[Mstar86]

Wow……


This just feels like a whole mess.

So much bareback and then this “arrangement” that can go horribly wrong.

Imagine she starts seeing punters at your gaff😂😂

[MJ.spritzen]

Imagine she starts seeing punters at your gaff😂😂

Never thought of that!

If she does get pregnant in order to get a council flat, I can only imagine the life the poor kid would have.

[MLawro93]

Never thought of that!

If she does get pregnant in order to get a council flat, I can only imagine the life the poor kid would have.

If only it were that simple.  She hasn't thought it through, and this is clearly some sort of scam or she is quite dim. No man alive would want that in their life.

[puntingking]

If only it were that simple.  She hasn't thought it through, and this is clearly some sort of scam or she is quite dim. No man alive would want that in their life.

what scam could it possibly be? maybe child maintenance 

[PLeisure]

she really hasn't thought things through in life.

One for the bare brigade who aren't worried how prolific she is

Shame. She's young, looks OK, has a decent body, but seems to have lost perspective

[PLeisure]

I can only imagine the life the poor kid would have.

She'd be working even more

And nan would be on babysitting duty

[puntingking]

she even hides her feedback 

another red flag in my eyes 

[Massage Bloke]

The Law:

"In the UK, it is illegal for a landlord or other person to require or accept sexual acts in exchange for accommodation, an exploitative practice often referred to as "sex for rent". It is treated as a form of prostitution and sexual exploitation, carrying a potential prison sentence of up to seven years."

The key bit for the OP, would be "accept sexual acts in exchage for accommodation"...  It doesn't matter if it's the woman who suggests the arrangement.

Fathering a child; The Law:

"A father must pay child support in the UK until the child turns 16, or up to age 20 if they are in approved full-time education or training. Payments stop on August 31st following the child's 16th birthday if they are not in eligible education or training, but can continue until the child turns 20 if they are still studying full-time. "

[puntingking]

Thanks for sharing that Massage Bloke 

[Massage Bloke]

One for the bare brigade who aren't worried how prolific she is

Shame. She's young, looks OK, has a decent body, but seems to have lost perspective

There is a lot of it about these days.  I saw a survey a while ago, of school leavers.  A very high percentage thought they would be home owners by their early 30s.

So many people seem to be deluded about themselves, none more so than sex workers.
 

[MLawro93]

what scam could it possibly be? maybe child maintenance 

Simply to catch you off guard and then ask for money. Could be small or big, but then she disappears afterwards. Scammers will look for whatever angle they can find, this could just be another way.

[MJ.spritzen]

Simply to catch you off guard and then ask for money. Could be small or big, but then she disappears afterwards. Scammers will look for whatever angle they can find, this could just be another way.

How could she find you though? Even my regular WGs dont even know my real first name let alone anything else.

[MLawro93]

How could she find you though? Even my regular WGs dont even know my real first name let alone anything else.

You don't need that information for a scam though. It is more of a case of people approaching her due to this ploy of hers, and her playing the long game, getting them invested, and then asking for small amounts. It happens a lot. There are different types of scams, they don't involve a cut and run approach. They play the long game in some cases, and slowly bleed you dry.

That is to say, if this is even one. What you can say, is she strikes me as unhinged. That alone is enough to avoid.  I suspect there will be some who will message her

[Massage Bloke]

"I suspect there will be some who will message her"

Possibly, and if two or three blokes bareback her, and there is a resulting child, she can say to them, I won't go to the Child Support Agency, (or whatever it's called now) if you give me a modest sum every month. And, of course, each man wouldn't know about the others.

That's just one way she could scam punters.

She doesn't sound too bright, and maybe it's doubtful if she pull off an elaborate scam.  But then again, there are lot of foolish men out there.

But I suppose it's more likely she would just beg punters to send her money with more fanciful tales.  The OP hasn't even ment her, I wonder how many numbers she is contacting.

[Handel2020]

I can only imagine the life the poor kid would have.

It wouldn't be great if he had to come on UKP to send a message to his dad. On the other hand if it was a decent flat with a garden that's something.

[schlong118118]

abit unfair that if a man was asking for a female to live with him rent free in exchange for sexual services then he would get in trouble for that.
But I suspect she would not get in trouble for what she says on her aw profile.

Double standards. 


More to the point - if a man contacts her agree to allow her to stay with him in exchange for sex, I would also expect him to get the telling off while she walks away scott free even though it was her idea 

There was something in the news where they wanted to make it illegal for sex to rent.

[schlong118118]

abit unfair that if a man was asking for a female to live with him rent free in exchange for sexual services then he would get in trouble for that.
But I suspect she would not get in trouble for what she says on her aw profile.

Double standards. 


More to the point - if a man contacts her agree to allow her to stay with him in exchange for sex, I would also expect him to get the telling off while she walks away scott free even though it was her idea 

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Home Secretary, Suella Braverman said:

It’s wholly unacceptable that vulnerable people, and particularly young women, are being exploited in ‘sex for rent’ arrangements. This is an abuse of power which puts people in desperate situations and has no place in our country.

The launch of this public call for evidence brings us closer to ending this deeply harmful trend and better protecting victims.

And it is another example of how this government will not stop in our efforts to bring more sexual and domestic abusers to justice.

[puntingking]

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Home Secretary, Suella Braverman said:

It’s wholly unacceptable that vulnerable people, and particularly young women, are being exploited in ‘sex for rent’ arrangements. This is an abuse of power which puts people in desperate situations and has no place in our country.

The launch of this public call for evidence brings us closer to ending this deeply harmful trend and better protecting victims.

And it is another example of how this government will not stop in our efforts to bring more sexual and domestic abusers to justice.

in this case, it is this women who would be using sex to get what she allegedly wants. Which makes her in control and makes week men the target who cant help but not thinking with their dicks.

[puntingking]

There was something in the news where they wanted to make it illegal for sex to rent.

what about making it illegal to ask for sex to be used as a payment for accommodation when the woman is doing the asking

[Mr Garmin]

Here's a different take on the issue.

When I was very young I lodged with a woman older than me.  After a couple of months we got together and I stopped paying rent.

So is the difference a lack of an explicit request of 'sex for accommodation' or the fact that it was a man getting free housing that takes the curse off it?  Or was it that we were only 2 years apart in age that makes it okay?

[Mstar86]

Here's a different take on the issue.

When I was very young I lodged with a woman older than me.  After a couple of months we got together and I stopped paying rent.

So is the difference a lack of an explicit request of 'sex for accommodation' or the fact that it was a man getting free housing that takes the curse off it?  Or was it that we were only 2 years apart in age that makes it okay?

You weren’t desperate. You were paying rent and affording it, then became in a relationship of sorts with your landlord. Then the money stopped.

This woman clearly needs the accommodation and is struggling so it leaves her open to be taken advantage of.

I actually think it’s fine as she’s offering it but the law is the law so I wouldn’t go anywhere near this arrangement personally

[Mr Garmin]

You weren’t desperate. You were paying rent and affording it, then became in a relationship of sorts with your landlord. Then the money stopped.

I don't believe that the law talks about desperation (although a judge may take it into account). Also, you have no idea of how desperate I was at the time.

For all you know this girl may be coining it in and choosing to spend it on other things.

[PLeisure]

this girl may be coining it in and choosing to spend it on other things.

Note the large Agent Provocateur lingerie box in the 2nd photo

[Ivor Hunch]

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[daddycool]

Just to add to the plethora of red flags, who's to say that she (and whoever she may be working with) won't end up cuckooing an unsuspecting punter.

[MJ.spritzen]

Just to add to the plethora of red flags, who's to say that she (and whoever she may be working with) won't end up cuckooing an unsuspecting punter.

Youre gonna have to explain that to me, mate. Im only a Scouser.

[PLeisure]

Youre gonna have to explain that to me, mate. Im only a Scouser.

Cuckoo'ing is a Police term for when an individual, or gang, move in to a vulnerable person's home. The sort of activity that criminal gangs enact, particularly when they need a stash house on an estate

[Falkirk GND]

Is this becoming a thing  This one just appeared in Edinburgh…

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She’s willing to share a bed, (it’s ok, she doesn’t snore!) but you’ll have to feed and water her.  Tbf, she doesn’t explicitly say that she’s offering sexual services in return, but I think it’s a reasonable conclusion to draw.

[puntingking]

She’s willing to share a bed, (it’s ok, she doesn’t snore!) but you’ll have to feed and water her.

She sounds like my dog 

[Massage Bloke]

Is this becoming a thing  This one just appeared in Edinburgh…

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She’s willing to share a bed, (it’s ok, she doesn’t snore!) but you’ll have to feed and water her.  Tbf, she doesn’t explicitly say that she’s offering sexual services in return, but I think it’s a reasonable conclusion to draw.

I've seen those photos before, I just can't where!

[Munter84]

There is a lot of it about these days.  I saw a survey a while ago, of school leavers.  A very high percentage thought they would be home owners by their early 30s.

At the point you leave school, early 30s are over a decade away (and may as well be middle age in a schoolkid's perspective), and the expectation is that by then you'll have a graduate career and your shit together. Ha ha! The naivite of youth.

[Heph]

I've seen those photos before, I just can't where!

Kilburn, where she's normally based

[Massage Bloke]

Kilburn, where she's normally based

Ah yes, cheers, 

[FourSixEight]

Kilburn, where she's normally based

Out of curiosity, I have been tracking Willow-affair. She has operated from Jersey, Birmingham, and Hammersmith, and gives her current location as Leicester.

Her AW profile now bizarrely includes five paragraphs written in what seems to be Malay. I copied the text into an online translation app, which gave me this translation:

"I'm a young white Briton, Matthew Arkey, who wants to serve, be kind and make a happy living for wealthy Asians. My biggest tune is the Muslim stuffed Asian urd [sic] that they hang on to me and use. The more men, the better. I am naturally attracted to brown Muslim men. And I am a submissive white man on the most natural. I'm new and I'm looking for as many Muslim men as possible who are happy and I don't have anyone behind me and enjoy a casual sex without any protection. I want to be a Muslim Asian husband or a boyfriend or a part of his women's harem. I'm also looking for a place to live. I'm using Google Translate, so I'm sorry if there's no reading of it. I want to teach Urdu."

Has Willow-affair's account been hacked?

Her AW profile has a separate tab offering gangbangs, for up to 25 people, for up to five hours. I will leave others with relevant experience to discuss whether servicing that many men in one event is physically feasible for one woman! Bearing in mind that she offers bareback, her gangbangs sound very unsafe.

[loki33]

Yeah i put it into google translate too and got Hindi, this ones seems to have the genders make more sense (i've cleaned up some of the machine speak):

"I am a young British white woman who wants to serve others, be kind, and make Muslim Asian people happy. My biggest concern (editor: focus?) is Muslim Asian men who are obsessed with alcohol and drink it. The more men, the better. I am attracted to white Muslim men, and I am an obedient white woman.

I am looking for as many Muslim Asian men as possible to serve, be kind to, and make happy. I can meet you with your own things or with large gags. I have no limits, and I accept casual relationships without protection.

I want to be a Muslim Asian man’s lover or girlfriend, or be part of taking him away from his woman. I am also looking for a place to live in Mastaql Tour. I am using Google Translate, so I’m sorry if it doesn’t make sense. I want to learn Urdu."

ChatGPT was better:

“I am a young fair-skinned British mixed-race girl who wants to serve, be kind to, and please Muslim Asians. My biggest turn-on is Muslim brown Asian men who dominate me and use me. The more men, the better. I am naturally attracted to brown Muslim men, and I am naturally an obedient mixed-race, fair-skinned girl. I am from Leicester. I am looking for as many Muslim Asian men as possible to make happy and to serve if possible. I can meet you on your own or with your larger groups. I have no limits and I am open to natural sexual relationships without protection. I want a Muslim Asian husband or boyfriend, or to become part of his women’s group/harem. I am also looking for a place to live permanently. I am using Google Translate, so I apologise if it does not make sense. I want to learn to read Urdu.”

[FourSixEight]

Thankyou Loki; that is more intelligible. I need to use a better translator app!

[elnukky]

At the point you leave school, early 30s are over a decade away (and may as well be middle age in a schoolkid's perspective), and the expectation is that by then you'll have a graduate career and your shit together. Ha ha! The naivite of youth.

No, that's the game-plan they receive from educators, carers and guardians. I suppose the naivete is trusting a word that comes out the mouths of older generations.

[akauya]

Her AW profile has a separate tab offering gangbangs, for up to 25 people, for up to five hours. I will leave others with relevant experience to discuss whether servicing that many men in one event is physically feasible for one woman! Bearing in mind that she offers bareback, her gangbangs sound very unsafe.

Perfectly feasible. I've been to civvie gangbangs (in swinging and fetish groups) where a woman serviced more than 25 men in a few hours. Mind you none were bareback.

[FourSixEight]

Perfectly feasible. I've been to civvie gangbangs (in swinging and fetish groups) where a woman serviced more than 25 men in a few hours. Mind you none were bareback.

Thankyou Akauya. I defer to your experience and expertise!

[Colston36]

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Home Secretary, Suella Braverman said:

It’s wholly unacceptable that vulnerable people, and particularly young women, are being exploited in ‘sex for rent’ arrangements. This is an abuse of power which puts people in desperate situations and has no place in our country.

The launch of this public call for evidence brings us closer to ending this deeply harmful trend and better protecting victims.

And it is another example of how this government will not stop in our efforts to bring more sexual and domestic abusers to justice.

Braverman is talking shit. A desperate woman with nowhere to live may well try this.

[Bassman]

I didn’t read that as she wants to stay with you. Reads to me like she wants to get knocked up so the council will give her a place to satay as a priority. She can visit you or you her etc for the cum swap lol.

Either way. Massive red flag.

[puntingking]

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[puntingking]

Massive red flag.

I agree with you there

[DastardlyDick]

I will leave others with relevant experience to discuss whether servicing that many men in one event is physically feasible for one woman!

Two words - Bonnie Blue.

[puntingking]

Two words - Bonnie Blue.

And Lilly Philips. 

[Fredbet]

Thanks for sharing that Massage Bloke 

Thanks for this info. I’m going back to the wife and telling her ex husband he needs to cough up.

[Fredbet]

Seems it’s a common issue on some profiles. A couple of clicks takes you to another girls page called niccy who’s touring in wales. Same wording, needs a place to stay.
Sometimes I just don’t get it!!!