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Offline ulstersubbie

Scotland and Italy winning today, we just need to beat the Irish and hope the Sassenachs do us a favour and beat France. Highly unlikely but stranger things have happened.

Offline bigden40

Scotland and Italy winning today, we just need to beat the Irish and hope the Sassenachs do us a favour and beat France. Highly unlikely but stranger things have happened.

We don’t need England to win, if we beat Ireland with a bonus point we just need England to deny France the same.

Annoying though that there looked a pretty blatant red card offence against France for an eye gouge that went unpunished before they got their BP try.

Offline mr.bluesky

Scotland and Italy winning today, we just need to beat the Irish and hope the Sassenachs do us a favour and beat France. Highly unlikely but stranger things have happened.

Not likely ulstersubbie, not on today's performance against Italy  :thumbsdown: Borthwick made 9 changes to the team from the last match but it's the same old shit.

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FFS - apart from anything else - ban the bloody useless box kick that we continue to use. All it does, most times, is give the ball to your opponents who then run it back at you and England then tend to give away a penalty - 3 points to the opposition!!!  :dash: :dash: :dash:

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I can hardly bring myself to talk about England yet, I'm at a loss. I did have them down to lose in the sweepstake but a mate got the exact points diff.

How on earth can Itoje justify his action which led to his card? At least Underhill's was a misjudgement. Agree with the comment about box kicking, our chase isn't good enough. He's out injured atm but Mitchell rarely kicks at Northampton, he's all about quick delivery and sniping runs, yet England have him box kicking behind a slow caterpillar ruck which is so telegraphed the defenders are all in place ready to say thanks for the ball.

Offline mr.bluesky

So England just fall short against France to end a very poor 6 nations championship. Only one win against a poor Wales team simply isn't good enough. Borthwick has got to go. With a World cup on the horizon this England team will be lucky to get out the group stage. Missed conversions proving costly too.
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Congratulations to France.  Best team in the tournament and deserved.

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So England just fall short against France to end a very poor 6 nations championship. Only one win against a poor Wales team simply isn't good enough. Borthwick has got to go. With a World cup on the horizon this England team will be lucky to get out the group stage. Missed conversions proving costly too.

one missed conversion was unavoidably from  touchline but Chessum interception try made no effort to get near the posts even though no-one was near him  - school boy error

I was concerned as soon as I saw the ref - he has not been kind to England in the past - should have awarded a penalty try and yellow card 5 minutes before half time when France collapsed a maul just before the line  which had made 15 yds - as the commentators said "I wont accuse France of cheating but there is no legal way to stop that maul "

but yes overall France was best team in tournament


but why oh why 2 mins to go,  point ahead does England Box kick and give ball back to France ?????
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but why oh why 2 mins to go,  point ahead does England Box kick and give ball back to France ?????

Exactly, just keep possesion of the ball and run the clock down, it's not rocket science  :dash:

Offline Stevelondon

It’s all been said so I’m not going to complain.

Was a really enjoyable six nations with a great last days rugby.

But I will say something I seem to repeat every so often.

When you’ve watched the six nations…….. then watch MOTD.
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Offline mr.bluesky

Congratulations to France.  Best team in the tournament and deserved.

Out of all the northern hemisphere teams surely they are the best bet to win next years Rugby Union World cup .

Offline Vice Admiral

Out of all the northern hemisphere teams surely they are the best bet to win next years Rugby Union World cup .

But how odd to allow France to play in light blue shirts, with England in white.

I don't think I've ever seen a rugby (or football) match where the two teams' shirts were so little differentiated.  I wouldn't have thought the players found it very helpful, either.

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But how odd to allow France to play in light blue shirts, with England in white.

I don't think I've ever seen a rugby (or football) match where the two teams' shirts were so little differentiated.  I wouldn't have thought the players found it very helpful, either.

Yes very strange, from a distance it was hard to tell the teams apart. If France decided to change to light blue why didn't England change to their 2nd kit or were they not aware of it  :unknown:

Offline B4bcock

But how odd to allow France to play in light blue shirts, with England in white.

I don't think I've ever seen a rugby (or football) match where the two teams' shirts were so little differentiated.  I wouldn't have thought the players found it very helpful, either.

The light blue french jerseys were worn to commemorate 120 years of anglo french rugby so I guess the colour represented a cross between the white of England and the dark blue of France.

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or the original shirts were light blue so as not to clash with Ecosse ?? 

back then teams didnt have 2nd strips, away strips , away 2nd strips......
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But how odd to allow France to play in light blue shirts, with England in white.

I don't think I've ever seen a rugby (or football) match where the two teams' shirts were so little differentiated.  I wouldn't have thought the players found it very helpful, either.

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But how odd to allow France to play in light blue shirts, with England in white.

I don't think I've ever seen a rugby (or football) match where the two teams' shirts were so little differentiated.  I wouldn't have thought the players found it very helpful, either.

Bearing in mind Ireland and Wales no longer play in green and red against each other to help colour blind people it was bizarre England din't wear another kit.
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but why oh why 2 mins to go,  point ahead does England Box kick and give ball back to France ?????

I was yelling that at the time but nobody in the press I read this morning made the point.  They could have easily kept it in the forwards for that time.

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But how odd to allow France to play in light blue shirts, with England in white.

I don't think I've ever seen a rugby (or football) match where the two teams' shirts were so little differentiated.  I wouldn't have thought the players found it very helpful, either.

It was ridiculous - any distance shot and we could tell the teams apart.

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The light blue french jerseys were worn to commemorate 120 years of anglo french rugby so I guess the colour represented a cross between the white of England and the dark blue of France.

I think it was the colour they wore in the first game between the countries.

Offline webpunter

I was yelling that at the time but nobody in the press I read this morning made the point.  They could have easily kept it in the forwards for that time.

As mentioned Chessum not engaging brain on his run to the line
Reminded me of Chris Ashton with his swallow dive focusing on this & nowt else

Indeed keep the ball slow it down let the french come onto them they make a mistake & they concede a penalty

Add these together & the match was lost

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So the Prem have stated Tigers v Saints will be used as a further trial for "Away" ends at the match  External Link/Members Only

The Prem's "Chief Growth Officer" wants to fuel the passion of rivalries. Personally I think the part of his statement about broadcast arenas is more pertinent. Oh, that and justifying his job title.

I'm very much old-school and love the fact that in the bars and stands both sets of supporters mix amiably with plenty of banter, both on the club scene and at internationals. The only time I've ever felt differently was in Cardiff when England had beaten Wales, and this is what I worry about. If they push the segregation agenda to create atmosphere, where will it lead? Will we look back in 20 or 30 years time and wish the rivalries were as friendly as they are currently?


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So the Prem have stated Tigers v Saints will be used as a further trial for "Away" ends at the match  External Link/Members Only

The Prem's "Chief Growth Officer" wants to fuel the passion of rivalries. Personally I think the part of his statement about broadcast arenas is more pertinent. Oh, that and justifying his job title.

I'm very much old-school and love the fact that in the bars and stands both sets of supporters mix amiably with plenty of banter, both on the club scene and at internationals. The only time I've ever felt differently was in Cardiff when England had beaten Wales, and this is what I worry about. If they push the segregation agenda to create atmosphere, where will it lead? Will we look back in 20 or 30 years time and wish the rivalries were as friendly as they are currently?

That is the great thing about Rugby fans is they can sit amongst the home teams fans without any trouble as they are on the whole more civilised than your average football fan. What they are suggesting is a big mistake imo.

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So the Prem have stated Tigers v Saints will be used as a further trial for "Away" ends at the match  External Link/Members Only

The Prem's "Chief Growth Officer" wants to fuel the passion of rivalries. Personally I think the part of his statement about broadcast arenas is more pertinent. Oh, that and justifying his job title.

I'm very much old-school and love the fact that in the bars and stands both sets of supporters mix amiably with plenty of banter, both on the club scene and at internationals. The only time I've ever felt differently was in Cardiff when England had beaten Wales, and this is what I worry about. If they push the segregation agenda to create atmosphere, where will it lead? Will we look back in 20 or 30 years time and wish the rivalries were as friendly as they are currently?

Mad idea  let’s take something that is great about rugby and change it to something that is shit about football

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An article in today’s Times focusing on the women’s Six Nations has the heading “Break-ups to pregnancies: how to navigate intra-squad relationships” and the sub-heading “Connections have blossomed amid a championing of inclusivity – but how do players ensure their personal lives do not affect performances on the pitch?”

Here are a couple of paragraphs:

Claudia and Cliodhna Moloney-MacDonald laughed about the phoney war at the start of the Women’s Six Nations: the battle of the scene-setting playlists. On the way to the ground, they kept interrupting each other’s music on the respective team buses, via their joint Spotify account. This was not some unseen act of mind games, more an accident brought on by the fact that the Moloney-MacDonalds are married, and one was opposing the other in England’s 33-12 victory over Ireland last weekend.

The Moloney-MacDonald derby came hot on the heels of Rosie Galligan and Marlie Packer announcing they are expecting a baby together. They are team-mates for Saracens and England. “It’s one of those unique things that people don’t understand,” Galligan told RugbyPass before last year’s World Cup. “We probably go harder at each other than anyone else on the team if we’re put opposite. There’s no backing down in the fight. I think our peers respect that.”

I wonder how long it will be before comparable issues arise in the men’s game?

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I wonder how long it will be before comparable issues arise in the men’s game?

Ages if ever
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So the Prem have stated Tigers v Saints will be used as a further trial for "Away" ends at the match  External Link/Members Only

The Prem's "Chief Growth Officer" wants to fuel the passion of rivalries. Personally I think the part of his statement about broadcast arenas is more pertinent. Oh, that and justifying his job title.

I'm very much old-school and love the fact that in the bars and stands both sets of supporters mix amiably with plenty of banter, both on the club scene and at internationals. The only time I've ever felt differently was in Cardiff when England had beaten Wales, and this is what I worry about. If they push the segregation agenda to create atmosphere, where will it lead? Will we look back in 20 or 30 years time and wish the rivalries were as friendly as they are currently?

This is a brainless idea by somebody that has a non job,as you say one of the attractions of rugby is the camaraderie between fans.
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So the Prem have stated Tigers v Saints will be used as a further trial for "Away" ends at the match  External Link/Members Only

The Prem's "Chief Growth Officer" wants to fuel the passion of rivalries. Personally I think the part of his statement about broadcast arenas is more pertinent. Oh, that and justifying his job title.

I'm very much old-school and love the fact that in the bars and stands both sets of supporters mix amiably with plenty of banter, both on the club scene and at internationals. The only time I've ever felt differently was in Cardiff when England had beaten Wales, and this is what I worry about. If they push the segregation agenda to create atmosphere, where will it lead? Will we look back in 20 or 30 years time and wish the rivalries were as friendly as they are currently?

Premiership semi final, The Gardens banging tonight. Of course not a sign of trouble, and does anyone think the atmosphere would have been greater if fans were segregated?

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Wanted to put this on it's own post; fantastic news that Kevin Sinfield is to be Knighted  :thumbsup:

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Wanted to put this on it's own post; fantastic news that Kevin Sinfield is to be Knighted  :thumbsup:

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Yes I mentioned this in another thread, fully deserved and long overdue  :thumbsup:

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Northampton Saints beat Exeter Chiefs to regain the Prem Rugby title 26 -17 today.

Not he high scoring fare that Saints normally produce but a tight tensioned affair with Saints defence winning out in the end. Quite rightly Saints win the trophy - the team that topped the league won in the end. They had stuttered a bit following the 6 Nations but came good when it counted. Scored more tries than have ever been recorded before in a Premiership season. A large part of the team have come through the academy, which gives them such a bond. You sometimes see them out together, they are just a nice bunch of young lads.

Must mention Henry Pollock. I get why he's a touch-paper for non-Saints fans, but he is such a huge team player. Got MOTM today and should have had it in the semi-final too. Not a show-pony, he does the real graft. This is how he has become a Lion at such a young age. My only concern for him is that I hope he looks after his body ok. He takes so much mullah - Tom Curry struggles these days and he's still only 28.

I am fortunate that my local side play such an attractive brand of rugby.
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Northampton Saints beat Exeter Chiefs to regain the Prem Rugby title 26 -17 today.

Not he high scoring fare that Saints normally produce but a tight tensioned affair with Saints defence winning out in the end. Quite rightly Saints win the trophy - the team that topped the league won in the end. They had stuttered a bit following the 6 Nations but came good when it counted. Scored more tries than have ever been recorded before in a Premiership season. A large part of the team have come through the academy, which gives them such a bond. You sometimes see them out together, they are just a nice bunch of young lads.

Must mention Henry Pollock. I get why he's a touch-paper for non-Saints fans, but he is such a huge team player. Got MOTM today and should have had it in the semi-final too. Not a show-pony, he does the real graft. This is how he has become a Lion at such a young age. My only concern for him is that I hope he looks after his body ok. He takes so much mullah - Tom Curry struggles these days and he's still only 28.

I am fortunate that my local side play such an attractive brand of rugby.

A good win for the Saints, like you say it's good to see the team that finishes top of the regular season win the play off final .
In the Championship Ealing Trailfinders went through the regular season unbeaten but lost to Worcester Warriors in the semi final who went on to win the final which doesn't seem right. Mind you I would not have said that if my club Coventry got through to the final  :rolleyes: Ealing are the moneybags club of the league so I'm not too unhappy they lost
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