And there was me thinking that me and my regular had a special thing going

[unclesweetheart]

As someone about to re-enter the fluffy zone with a regular (or two) of mine, it was very salutary to read this thread from SAAFE.

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As you've always said boys: they ONLY do it for the money. I'll get my Buddhist teacher to turn that into a mantra for me.

[Ben4454]

Always leave your TRUST and HEART at home or you'll run into problems.

[Stevesmith]

Everyone knows they only do it for money, I would hope so, never believe they like you, never care if they like you.

[fredpunter]

The most striking thing is that there's two pages of prossies advising her to lie to hubby or client, or both before anyone thinks that may not be a good idea

[sushi]

The most striking thing is that there's two pages of prossies advising her to lie to hubby or client, or both before anyone thinks that may not be a good idea

I didn't see that From what I read the OP has been overstepping the mark by texting her when shes not working thinking hes more than a punter and shes been advised to tell him to stop texting out of working hours or she wont see him. I don't see them advocating she lie to anyone. 

[sushi]

As someone about to re-enter the fluffy zone with a regular (or two) of mine, it was very salutary to read this thread from SAAFE.

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As you've always said boys: they ONLY do it for the money. I'll get my Buddhist teacher to turn that into a mantra for me.

What special thing do you think you had going with your regular? You had paid for sex you and you read more into it than it actually was.
Why would you be texting her FFS unless its to arrange another punt?
A rule of punting is don't get emotionally involved with prossies.

[linford]

I never get to close to  prossies  when i see then i keep my distance and  i am  often detached. i find it superficial to me no real .  it different with my friends and family i can be authentic and have deep conversation . i keep my boundaries .

[tbrad]

I like adding notches to the bedposts, not paying tons of cash for a fake girlfriend.
The whole regular thing does confuse me, why not just get a girlfriend and punt on the side if you want the emotional connection?

[Watts.E.Dunn]

So just Who does get involved with them and how does it happen?. Does the B/F know the girls working before the relationship starts or does she start working after the relationship does?.

Anyone any ideas?..

[linford]

i just  read this thread from SAAFE. and i am quite shock what i read its the first time i come come across the saafe fourm .

[sushi]

So just Who does get involved with them and how does it happen?. Does the B/F know the girls working before the relationship starts or does she start working after the relationship does?.

Anyone any ideas?..

Do you expect an answer to a question regarding all prossies? who knows which prossie are in a relationship or not and why does it matter?
Punters are punters so if prossie has a B/F' or husband thats their business not ours.

[linford]

i have few female friends for  emotional connection i find it great i am in to lot of personal growth and Personal development like yoga and meditation

[akauya]

And there was me thinking that me and my regular had a special thing going


As someone about to re-enter the fluffy zone with a regular (or two) of mine, it was very salutary to read this thread from SAAFE.

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As you've always said boys: they ONLY do it for the money. I'll get my Buddhist teacher to turn that into a mantra for me.

What special thing did you expect? You are buying access to the prossie's body for an hour or two. You're not buying her emotions or feelings. Can't believe so many some blokes confuse a business transaction with prostitutes for dates. Seeing a prostitute is not a date. She is not in love with you, she may give you the illusion but she isn't.

EAS seems to be more common than I thought! The whole point of seeing a prossie is that you don't get into emotional relationshits - you pay your money, you fuck her, you leave. Job done.

By all means appreciate the experience, repeat if you liked it but always remember it's not a date.

[LL]

Just go onto the next girl and forget about this one. We've all been there (well, those man enough to admit it not the guys with big egos). It's game over. Move the fuck on.

[punk]

fuck them.enjoy them than when it gets boring move on, all punters are cash cows, more so regulars.

[Quesadilla]

As someone about to re-enter the fluffy zone with a regular (or two) of mine, it was very salutary to read this thread from SAAFE.

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As you've always said boys: they ONLY do it for the money. I'll get my Buddhist teacher to turn that into a mantra for me.

I don't really look at Saafe but read this thread, and found myself reading a few others. At the same time this is running there's another thread about a External Link/Members Only. Many of the comments suggest it happens to lots of them, so just because some are all business doesn't mean that others don't get involved. 

Just because you have EAS doesn't mean it's impossible for your regular to have it too. No point generalising - they are all individuals, just as you are an individual and not some stereotype of a punter! 

[Tjkooker]

Just go onto the next girl and forget about this one. We've all been there (well, those man enough to admit it not the guys with big egos). It's game over. Move the fuck on.

Iv never had it and I'm man enough to admit if I did. Closest I got was thinking about a proposition to meet. I didn't go through with it as my brain kicked in two minutes after I left her incall flat.

[akauya]

Just go onto the next girl and forget about this one. We've all been there (well, those man enough to admit it not the guys with big egos). It's game over. Move the fuck on.

No big egos here LL. I just have this weird thing that makes me want to fuck as many different women as possible. Hardly ever see the same prossie twice (except perhaps in Soho but that's just because it's all so hit and miss there). The fact that I don't have regulars saves me from EAS, plus I always treat punting as a very pleasurable business transaction.

[CBPaul]

As someone about to re-enter the fluffy zone with a regular (or two) of mine, it was very salutary to read this thread from SAAFE.

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As you've always said boys: they ONLY do it for the money. I'll get my Buddhist teacher to turn that into a mantra for me.

That would be a good mantra.

Regulars are such a reliable source of income, I can understand prossies wanting to keep hold of them, problem is they have to make the next hit better than the last otherwise risk the punter getting bored, feeling stale and moving on to prossies new. That's where EAS creeps in.

They are only interesting in the regular income stream and creating an act to keep it, never mind the needless 'nice guy' nonsense, if he was a ugly, stinking, sociopathic axe bearing headcase of a man he wouldn't have made it regular status.

Makes me smirk over on saafe, the complaining about being landed with a love sick regular verging on stalkerish behaviour when they've contributed to it though their act. 

As for texting the prossie during the week,  , personally if I worked away during the week that's when I would be punting - then recovering at the weekend.

[GeeWiz]

A grand in the hand is a monthly take home salary for many.  Interesting that so many of her sisters advocate giving it up just to keep her fella sweet.  So much for being an 'independent'.

[Jimmyredcab]

As someone about to re-enter the fluffy zone with a regular (or two) of mine, it was very salutary to read this thread from SAAFE.

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As you've always said boys: they ONLY do it for the money. I'll get my Buddhist teacher to turn that into a mantra for me.

So her ponce of a boyfriend is jealous, you really couldn't make it up.   

[Bigus Dickus]

The OP has previous for EAS. They are not girlfriends. My advice to you is take your £1,000 a month and use it to see different girls. You obviously can't draw the line between girls you pay for and relationships so maybe you shouldn't see girls more than 3 times.

Variety is the spice of life!

[smiths]

As someone about to re-enter the fluffy zone with a regular (or two) of mine, it was very salutary to read this thread from SAAFE.

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As you've always said boys: they ONLY do it for the money. I'll get my Buddhist teacher to turn that into a mantra for me.

Thats right a WG sucks and fucks punters for cash the same as a plumber fixes leads for cash. Why on earth anyone would think otherwise is beyond me. Always makes me laugh when punters post a WG only does it for the cash as though thats a new revelation.

[smiths]

Everyone knows they only do it for money, I would hope so, never believe they like you, never care if they like you.

Everyone doesnt know sadly as many threads on here have shown. Punters lending WGs money, getting EAS and treating punting like dating have all been posted about many times.

The deluded really believe the WG thinks they are special, i daresay the WG has who knows how many other punters thinking the same. It can just be a case of good acting of course but the punter cant compute thats all it is. Different if a WG asks a punter out but doesnt ask to be paid for her time or ask to be paid for a fuck later on, not a very common occurence once again according to this site though.

[greychap]

So her ponce of a boyfriend is jealous, you really couldn't make it up.   

It is very funny reading that thread that nobody said to her why should you think about your boyfriend when its obvious the boyfriend is a scum bag gaining off her sucking cocks and getting pumped by every Tom, dick and Harry.

A decent bloke would not have there wife/girlfriend especially as they have a child together letting men fuck there women.

Escorts are really blind, it is a another reason for pimping and nobody can tell me the bloke does not benefit from her working.

[Andre 3000]

i just  read this thread from SAAFE. and i am quite shock what i read its the first time i come come across the saafe fourm .

SAAFE is recommended reading especially for men who post and lurk on here and who verge into the fluffier side.

A short sharp shock of seeing how WG's talk among themselves about punters, usually removes the blinkers about being 'special'

Punting is fun,but always remember, it's a business transaction.

[Corus Boy]

The trouble with links to SAAFE is that you end up looking at other threads and find lovely gems like;

"...With each year I'm in this business I hate men a little bit more..."

My advice;

Get Out Of It!

[greychap]

The trouble with links to SAAFE is that you end up looking at other threads and find lovely gems like;

"...With each year I'm in this business I hate men a little bit more..."

My advice;

Get Out Of It!

This is nothing new a lot of the workers probably dislike men a lot and are wishing them dead in the middles of action. The thing about reading SAAFE is it opens up your eyes to what the escorts go through, constant nut jobs stalking and threats of violence towards the workers, not knowing what nut jobs are going to turn up on an incall.

Also you can see why a lot of escorts insist on you washing when you arrive even when you say you have, some describe the guy has thick cream cheese down below and shit all round there arse and pretending they have washed.

Having to see these type of punters they deserve every penny and more.

[punterstanding]

This is nothing new a lot of the workers probably dislike men a lot and are wishing them dead in the middles of action. The thing about reading SAAFE is it opens up your eyes to what the escorts go through, constant nut jobs stalking and threats of violence towards the workers, not knowing what nut jobs are going to turn up on an incall.

Also you can see why a lot of escorts insist on you washing when you arrive even when you say you have, some describe the guy has thick cream cheese down below and shit all round there arse and pretending they have washed.

Having to see these type of punters they deserve every penny and more.

+1

Turn it the other way and have more of the WG's reading some of the posts on this forum. Most is really useful common sense and informative but there are a few posters that are disrespectful at best or misogynistic in reality.

I enjoy reading the SAAFE forum, like this one, it's an eye opener.

[greychap]

+1

Turn it the other way and have more of the WG's reading some of the posts on this forum. Most is really useful common sense and informative but there are a few posters that are disrespectful at best or misogynistic in reality.

I enjoy reading the SAAFE forum, like this one, it's an eye opener.

Yes I agree its a good read I only came across it when being on here.

And like I said when you read some of the horror stories that the escorts can be faced with it is not always as easy when some punters say all they do is open there legs, I don't think it is like that, there is a lot of risks involved keeping safe.

There is bad apples on both sides punters have been set up and robbed seeing girls and the escorts have had there fair share of violent nasty punters. There is bad punters out there and bad escorts out there.

[LL]

No big egos here LL. I just have this weird thing that makes me want to fuck as many different women as possible. Hardly ever see the same prossie twice (except perhaps in Soho but that's just because it's all so hit and miss there). The fact that I don't have regulars saves me from EAS, plus I always treat punting as a very pleasurable business transaction.

Yes sorry for my sweeping statement. Made sense when I wrote it last night on a late train home after a few beers! Now it doesn't read so well. Some of us, not all, have had an EAS episode at some point. I guess this thread struck a chord with me as my incident is something that I regret and feel stupid about. Also whilst newbie punters are most suseptical to EAS - I believe it could happen to anyone, even the guys who don't believe it would ever happen to themselves.

[sumofallparts]

I think we all go through similar to this, but in time you work out that the relationship between punter and WG is monetary and nothing more.

WG = gold digging / money grabbing whore. They sell there body and sex for MONEY. End of.

Sure they can be nice, pleasant, funny - but it never goes beyond that. They are 99.9% in it SOLELY for the money.

So never, ever, ever have EAS !

PS - avoid Romanians too.

[akauya]

Yes sorry for my sweeping statement. Made sense when I wrote it last night on a late train home after a few beers! Now it doesn't read so well. Some of us, not all, have had an EAS episode at some point. I guess this thread struck a chord with me as my incident is something that I regret and feel stupid about. Also whilst newbie punters are most suseptical to EAS - I believe it could happen to anyone, even the guys who don't believe it would ever happen to themselves.

No need to apologise LL; I completely understand. Also about the bit I highlighted... it could indeed happen to anyone. I know myself, if I were to have a regular with whom I connect really well I could easily become infatuated with her, which would be nothing but trouble. So, I stick to seeing different girls all the time. Of course there are some prossies I would love to see more often but I do force myself not to.

[Dani]

I think we all go through similar to this, but in time you work out that the relationship between punter and WG is monetary and nothing more.

WG = gold digging / money grabbing whore. They sell there body and sex for MONEY. End of.

Sure they can be nice, pleasant, funny - but it never goes beyond that. They are 99.9% in it SOLELY for the money.

why are people so surprised the relationship is purely financial.  You don't expect other service providers such as a barber or plumber to do his job for anything other than the money so why should it be different for us?
We sell a fantasy.  Its our job.  Of course we work for money.  Do any of you do your job for free?  No you do it for the money the same as everyone else who works.  Yet somehow prossies are not supposed to be in it for the money and as above the word money because overstated to prove that point.
As for getting involved with clients why would we?.  It just does not make sense to move from a business arrangement to a free arrangement and again none of you expect a hairdresser or any other type of female provider to do that

So yes like everyone else on the planet who works we do it for the money (or we would give it away for free wouldn't we) and most of us don't get involved with clients as like any other business it doesn't make sense to go from being paid to not getting paid by a client

[sumofallparts]

I was saying it pretty much as you did Dani. I wasn't arguing the point - I was saying it IS purely for money.
We are saying the same thing aren't we?
I have no issue with that WG's selling sex and it being their job, but some folk seem to think it is more than that.....
I think your counter argument isn't with me and what i said.
Although, you have commented on other postings I've made and seem to have some sort of axe to grind with me? Not sure why?

[Dani]

I was saying it pretty much as you did Dani. I wasn't arguing the point - I was saying it IS purely for money.
We are saying the same thing aren't we?
I have no issue with that WG's selling sex and it being their job, but some folk seem to think it is more than that.....
I think your counter argument isn't with me and what i said.
Although, you have commented on other postings I've made and seem to have some sort of axe to grind with me? Not sure why?

I quoted your post mainly as it had emphasised the word money as if that was somehow wrong and it shouldn't be all about the money a all.  I did that so it would explain what I was saying about how some highlight the word money as if it is so wrong to work for it.
I have no quarrel with you as have no idea who you are and if I have answered some of your posts before it is probably because I didn't agree with them

[Bigus Dickus]

Although, you have commented on other postings I've made and seem to have some sort of axe to grind with me? Not sure why?

Most likely because of the money grabbing gold digging whore comment.

 

[greychap]

Most likely because of the money grabbing gold digging whore comment.

 

Yes I agree, but in all fairness its not fair to call of them gold digging whores, they are doing a job for money like we all do. A gold digging whore is someone that  is using them as a boyfriend trying to rip the guy off and take him for a ride and don't like the guy usually. The escorts are up front charging for services, well at least most of them are apart from the scammers and thiefs out there.

A lot of the escorts work hard for there money and they have to deal with punters that sometimes turn on them. They would also see a lot of guys that maybe cannot get a girlfriend or are disabled and without them they would never come near to a girl.

I respect an escort who works hard, does not claim benefits and gives themselves or even there children a better life then what they could have.

[Quesadilla]

Yes I agree, but in all fairness its not fair to call of them gold digging whores, they are doing a job for money like we all do. A gold digging whore is someone that  is using them as a boyfriend trying to rip the guy off and take him for a ride and don't like the guy usually. The escorts are up front charging for services, well at least most of them are apart from the scammers and thiefs out there.

A lot of the escorts work hard for there money and they have to deal with punters that sometimes turn on them. They would also see a lot of guys that maybe cannot get a girlfriend or are disabled and without them they would never come near to a girl.

I respect an escort who works hard, does not claim benefits and gives themselves or even there children a better life then what they could have.

+1 great post! Give credit where it's due many WG'S (actually most in my personal experience) do a fucking fantastic job! 

[Boundless]

A couple of points come to mind after reading that on Saafe.

I wish I could turn down a grand a month, fuck me she must be on some sort of income.

I didn't realise that WG's had such a highly developed moral compass re not lying to the hubby, it doesn't seem to be quite so evident when they feed us a total load of bullshit though does it?

Lastly, why the fuck would you spend a grand a month on the same bird, either she's gotta be one hell of a shag or he's got a terminal case of EAS.

[Boundless]

Yes I agree, but in all fairness its not fair to call of them gold digging whores, they are doing a job for money like we all do. A gold digging whore is someone that  is using them as a boyfriend trying to rip the guy off and take him for a ride and don't like the guy usually. The escorts are up front charging for services, well at least most of them are apart from the scammers and thiefs out there.

A lot of the escorts work hard for there money and they have to deal with punters that sometimes turn on them. They would also see a lot of guys that maybe cannot get a girlfriend or are disabled and without them they would never come near to a girl.

I respect an escort who works hard, does not claim benefits and gives themselves or even there children a better life then what they could have.

I agree to a certain extent but they're not working for minimum wage like thousands of poor cunts are. They get paid per hour more than the Prime Minister!!

[peter_bungee]

I have this with my regular at the moment and need to remember not to get attached and avoid seeing the same girl

But she always claims to love my company (think shes lonely at times) and i have paid for 1hr appointments and stayed 3hrs, we dont have sex all this time 90% just "hanging out".  But on a few occasions she has kicked me out due to other bookings so its a company thing

But I did for a while start buying her gifts and thinking of her too much as we really connected on. Personal level and she is open with me about her life.  She also bought me dinner once!

[peter_bungee]

I quoted your post mainly as it had emphasised the word money as if that was somehow wrong and it shouldn't be all about the money a all.  I did that so it would explain what I was saying about how some highlight the word money as if it is so wrong to work for it.
I have no quarrel with you as have no idea who you are and if I have answered some of your posts before it is probably because I didn't agree with them

I am not sure all girls are no hardened maybe the majority.  But i have a regular who enjoys spending time with me and I owe her manyy hours due to over running appointments.  You cant generalise

[CBPaul]

Lastly, why the fuck would you spend a grand a month on the same bird, either she's gotta be one hell of a shag or he's got a terminal case of EAS.

My thoughts exactly - one serious case of EAS I think.

I wonder if the bf can cope with being 12K a year worse off though. Doubt it somehow.

[Aspen]

Lastly, why the fuck would you spend a grand a month on the same bird, either she's gotta be one hell of a shag or he's got a terminal case of EAS.

And for two years!!!

It reminds me of a girl I saw a while back who was really good, and has a similar name and I wonder if it's the same one. Spooky if it is.

[MeesterNeek]

Yes I agree, but in all fairness its not fair to call of them gold digging whores, they are doing a job for money like we all do. A gold digging whore is someone that  is using them as a boyfriend trying to rip the guy off and take him for a ride and don't like the guy usually. The escorts are up front charging for services, well at least most of them are apart from the scammers and thiefs out there.

A lot of the escorts work hard for there money and they have to deal with punters that sometimes turn on them. They would also see a lot of guys that maybe cannot get a girlfriend or are disabled and without them they would never come near to a girl.

I respect an escort who works hard, does not claim benefits and gives themselves or even there children a better life then what they could have.

+ 1

Best post I have read and I am not a spring chicken at this game.

I suffer from EAS - every time I am with a WG.

In my mind, as a punter (what else am I?),  I have a role to play apart from being a ATM. I enjoy being civil, chatty as well as much fun as I can muster. if a WG responds then EAS - if we do not click then so be it!

If EAS threatens then it is all about the money and how much I am prepared to give away - a lot depends on the WG and their ability to read the situation - IMHO

[Quesadilla]

I didn't realise that WG's had such a highly developed moral compass re not lying to the hubby, it doesn't seem to be quite so evident when they feed us a total load of bullshit though does it?

If you want honesty get a girlfriend, you're paying WG's to bullshit you - "oh Sam, just like that you're amazing!". 

Lastly, why the fuck would you spend a grand a month on the same bird, either she's gotta be one hell of a shag or he's got a terminal case of EAS.

Personally spent over £1k on one regular last month.  Why? Because she's the best bullshitter.   

Like MeesterNeek says I am paying for a girlfriend I could never possibly have in real life and for me if there's no emotional attachment it doesn't feel like a proper GFE.  I alternate with others so I don't get too EAS'd but not always easy. Fortunately she's heading back to the home country for Christmas so will wean myself off a bit.

[cjkany2015]

I can understand why EAS happens.  I've seen hundreds of girls. Didn't think twice about most of them but occasionally you just click. They let you in a bit and before you know it you are sucked in and both start blurring the lines. Messy situation.

It sounds like the guy has a case if he has been spending a grand a month on her for years

[willbred]

If a guy is a prossie's boyfriend,or whatever he should realise that it may not always be just "wham, bam...." either way. Jealousy and prossies is a toxic mixture-whether from a client's or BF's perspective IMHO

[cjkany2015]

If a guy is a prossie's boyfriend,or whatever he should realise that it may not always be just "wham, bam...." either way. Jealousy and prossies is a toxic mixture-whether from a client's or BF's perspective IMHO

As a punter I think sex & love are different.

I don't think I would find the job difficult to deal with if she was happy.