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I used to sleep with WGs every now and then, I’d always use a condom, I wouldn’t even do oral without protection. But for some reason I started really worrying about catching an STI, specifically Herpes as this can be caught just by skin to skin contact, so even protection won’t help.

I started to just doing hand relief as I was too worried about catching something. I just wanted to get people’s thoughts on this. Have you ever caught something from a WG despite using protection? Are you worried about catching something or do you think it’s extremely low risk?

Sorry if this is something that gets asked often.

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There are risks and you need to decide what you are happy with and take the appropriate protective measures and also get regularly tested. The SPs get regularly tested. If we get regularly tested, then this helps reduce the level of risk, but it will never become zero.

If you are concerned about even skin to skin contact then I suspect punting is not for you.

We should always that wary of catching something and use condoms.

I have in the past caught STIs from escorts from oral without. These were both amateur SPs who in hindsight possibly weren't being tested or taking precautions. I got teated and treated and then retested and I was clear and thus ready to see SPs again.  I now get tested every 6 months and so far I've been clear for 14 years and I've seen about 250 SPs.
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Offline JontyR

I've had two STIs in my life,

Both caught from Civvies.

If you fancy a fuck, make sure you use a condom. Make sure you get yourself tested regularly. Work out what kind of risk you are prepared to take for any other activity. Do this when you haven't got the horn on, and then stick to it when you are out and about.

This way at least you are making the decisions and are in control of them. It makes for actually enjoying what you much more of a priority, it sounds like you are making something fun and escapists into a mass or stresses and worries

Offline alabama1

There are risks and you need to decide what you are happy with and take the appropriate protective measures and also get regularly tested. The SPs get regularly tested. If we get regularly tested, then this helps reduce the level of risk, but it will never become zero.

If you are concerned about even skin to skin contact then I suspect punting is not for you.

We should always that wary of catching something and use condoms.

I have in the past caught STIs from escorts from oral without. These were both amateur SPs who in hindsight possibly weren't being tested or taking precautions. I got teated and treated and then retested and I was clear and thus ready to see SPs again.  I now get tested every 6 months and so far I've been clear for 14 years and I've seen about 250 SPs.
So they didn't charge you then ?  :unknown: :lol:

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I used to sleep with WGs every now and then, I’d always use a condom, I wouldn’t even do oral without protection. But for some reason I started really worrying about catching an STI, specifically Herpes as this can be caught just by skin to skin contact, so even protection won’t help.

I started to just doing hand relief as I was too worried about catching something. I just wanted to get people’s thoughts on this. Have you ever caught something from a WG despite using protection? Are you worried about catching something or do you think it’s extremely low risk?

Sorry if this is something that gets asked often.
Are you having a laugh??? you're in your 10th year of membership and you've never seen this referred to before?   :unknown:

What reason do you have for only posting 1 review since you joined and that was 3 years ago.

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So they didn't charge you then ?  :unknown: :lol:
No, they did as they were SPs. One was a Hungarian MILF with a secret job in the UK who probably wasn't accessing medical services in the UK and the other was a newbie SP who had a short career of 4 SSs and then disappeared.

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Sorry if this is something that gets asked often.

Yes it is something that gets asked often.
Try searching the forum

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No, they did as they were SPs. One was a Hungarian MILF with a secret job in the UK who probably wasn't accessing medical services in the UK and the other was a newbie SP who had a short career of 4 SSs and then disappeared.
These were both amateur SPs  If they charged you, this means they couldn't have been amateurs.

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These were both amateur SPs  If they charged you, this means they couldn't have been amateurs.

I'm sure they were pros.   :rolleyes:

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These were both amateur SPs  If they charged you, this means they couldn't have been amateurs.
part timers rather than career SPs.

Offline hairdownthere

These were both amateur SPs  If they charged you, this means they couldn't have been amateurs.

Does it matter?  People give me money for doing odd-jobs for them and I'm not a professional trades person
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But you're not an amateur one if you accept money for it.

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Does it matter?  People give me money for doing odd-jobs for them and I'm not a professional trades person
Professional and tradesperson are two entirely different things, a professional is someone who gets paid for doing whatever it is they are doing at the time, a tradesperson is someone who has trained and is qualified in a trade.

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Professional and tradesperson are two entirely different things, a professional is someone who gets paid for doing whatever it is they are doing at the time, a tradesperson is someone who has trained and is qualified in a trade.




This is the Google definition. Which differs from your description. A tradesperson is a professional person at the job he does., a craftsman:unknown:

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This is the Google definition. Which differs from your description. A tradesperson is a professional person at the job he does., a craftsman:unknown:

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Not brown nosing, but i favour daviemac's explanation. A professional gets paid in his line of work, whereas an amateur doesn't.
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This is the Google definition. Which differs from your description. A tradesperson is a professional person at the job he does., a craftsman:unknown:

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Google doesn't make a definition, it just offers what it finds on the web.

And Googles AI says...




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Google doesn't make a definition, it just offers what it finds on the web.

And Googles AI says...




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Exactly, the information you have added concurs to the dictum that;

"This individual (a professional person) is typically is typically compensated for their work"

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Are solicitors or doctors and the like tradesmen? they are professionals.  :unknown:

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Tradesmen qualify through apprenticeships.
Professionals qualify through memberships of a chartered body of some kind, e.g. the Inns of Court.

Not totally as black and white as that as obviously it's possible to do a degree course in a subject without joining a chartered body

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Tradesmen qualify through apprenticeships.
Professionals qualify through memberships of a chartered body of some kind, e.g. the Inns of Court.

Not totally as black and white as that as obviously it's possible to do a degree course in a subject without joining a chartered body
Are there apprenticeships for SPs or a professional body that awards them degrees (ME or MAs) in escorting?

You might have to pay extra if they have a degree in escorting as they have to repay their student loan.

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Are there apprenticeships for SPs or a professional body that awards them degrees (ME or MAs) in escorting?

You might have to pay extra if they have a degree in escorting as they have to repay their student loan.

Not escorting but certainly there are both apprenticeships and (in some countries) professional qualifications in massage therapy

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Not escorting but certainly there are both apprenticeships and (in some countries) professional qualifications in massage therapy
Sounds like there's a missed opportunity there for universities to offer such a course. They could modules on:

- Marketing
- Tax
- Business Development
- Investment opportunities
- Customer relationship
- Hygiene
- Sexual health
- Dealing with timewasters - basic
- Dealing with timewasters - advanced
- Being a therapist - basic

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The issue arises due to evolving definitions over time and in particular the use of professional as an 'opposite' of amateur which is flawed.

If you begin with a definition of Profession

"A Profession is a disciplined group of individuals who adhere to ethical standards and who hold themselves out as, and are accepted by the public as possessing special knowledge and skills in a widely recognised body of learning derived from research, education and training at a high level, and who are prepared to apply this knowledge and exercise these skills in the interest of others.

It is inherent in the definition of a Profession that a code of ethics governs the activities of each Profession.  Such codes require behaviour and practice beyond the personal moral obligations of an individual.  They define and demand high standards of behaviour in respect to the services provided to the public and in dealing with professional colleagues.  Often these codes are enforced by the Profession and are acknowledged and accepted by the community".


A Professional is a member of a recognised profession based on the above definition. This will include the fields of healthcare, law, teaching etc. In most instances professionals will receive remuneration for their activity, but it is not strictly part of the definition.

The definition of 'amateur' is a little more straightforward, ie someone who carries out an activity for no remuneration and where others may carry out exactly the same activity for payment.

Usage of professional to compare to 'an amateur' to distinguish between someone who is paid or not, has become widespread and has especially been driven by sport.

This is deemed acceptable usage, but is not strictly accurate as professional refers to the way in which members of a profession have gained knowledge and in how they behave and are governed etc as in the above definition, rather than whether they are paid or not.

Consequently many members of professions may offer their services for free (this is common with eg voluntary work) and many amateurs may still strive to carry out an unpaid activity in a 'professional' manner.

The English language ... don't you just love it  :D

Just to add that prostitution is often described as 'the oldest profession' which is also seriously flawed  :D
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Sounds like there's a missed opportunity there for universities to offer such a course. They could modules on:

- Marketing
- Tax
- Business Development
- Investment opportunities
- Customer relationship
- Hygiene
- Sexual health
- Dealing with timewasters - basic
- Dealing with timewasters - advanced
- Being a therapist - basic
There's already courses for massage therapy in this country up to level 4 - External Link/Members Only

Plus at least 2 national professional bodies - External Link/Members Only - External Link/Members Only

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There's already courses for massage therapy in this country up to level 4 - External Link/Members Only

Plus at least 2 national professional bodies - External Link/Members Only - External Link/Members Only
I nominate Lilith Noir for Professor Of Escorting

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Are solicitors or doctors and the like tradesmen? they are professionals.  :unknown:

Indeed. A professional will mostly involve providing an activity/service directly involving the individual in some way, ie health law teaching.

The activity of a tradesman is mostly 'inanimate' in nature, though may be carried out on behalf of an individual.

Offline pbrown355

"This is deemed acceptable usage, but is not strictly accurate as professional refers to the way in which members of a profession have gained knowledge and in how they behave and are governed etc as in the above definition, rather than whether they are paid or not."
Since this is apparently the thread where we are competing for pedantry medals I would like to make my case as an amateur pedant. My argument is with the claim that "it is not strictly accurate" since if this is the way the man on the Clapham omnibus would understand it, then it is accurate.

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Sorry but only arguments from professional pedants are valid, not amateur ones.

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Forum Discussion Update: STI health topic successfully diverted into an analysis of professional v. amateur distinctions.

The beauty of online forums... you never quite know where the conversation will end up :D :D

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Since this is apparently the thread where we are competing for pedantry medals I would like to make my case as an amateur pedant. My argument is with the claim that "it is not strictly accurate" since if this is the way the man on the Clapham omnibus would understand it, then it is accurate.

 :D :thumbsup:

If you were to introduce and accept 'the man on the Clapham omnibus' principle to UKP discussions, then many threads would be a fraction of the length they end up  :D


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:D :thumbsup:
then many threads would be a fraction of the length they end up  :D

Which would be a good thing!!

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Which would be a good thing!!

But we may all have a different definition of 'good'  ;) :D

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Back on topic. In my opinion the risks of STIs, especially HIV, are vastly exaggerated. I bareback quite often, have been doing so for more than 10 years and caught chlamydia once. Prior to barebacking I always used a condom for penetration but did OWO and also caught chlamydia once. I get tested regularly and always negative. Maybe I have a super effective immune system!
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Back on topic. In my opinion the risks of STIs, especially HIV, are vastly exaggerated. I bareback quite often, have been doing so for more than 10 years and caught chlamydia once. Prior to barebacking I always used a condom for penetration but did OWO and also caught chlamydia once. I get tested regularly and always negative. Maybe I have a super effective immune system!
Or just been lucky... your luck might run out.

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Back on topic. In my opinion the risks of STIs, especially HIV, are vastly exaggerated. I bareback quite often, have been doing so for more than 10 years and caught chlamydia once. Prior to barebacking I always used a condom for penetration but did OWO and also caught chlamydia once. I get tested regularly and always negative. Maybe I have a super effective immune system!

If you were to say that the risks of various sexual activites are not widely known or considered then I think you are correct. If you are saying the risks are wildly exagerrated then you are not.

The risk of indulging in sexual activity without protection when no party has a ransmissable disease is zero. The risks rise from there. Saying the risks of HIV are overstated is a strange statement to make, the risks of receiving

You have taken the decision to run the risk of your partner passing somethign on to you. They are taking the risk of you passing on to them. If that's between consenting and fully informed adults then fine. I would worry though about people choosing and having the deliberate motivation to do this in a paid enviornment, after all there is no risk in cathcing something that you already have.

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If you were to say that the risks of various sexual activites are not widely known or considered then I think you are correct. If you are saying the risks are wildly exagerrated then you are not.

The risk of indulging in sexual activity without protection when no party has a ransmissable disease is zero. The risks rise from there. Saying the risks of HIV are overstated is a strange statement to make, the risks of receiving

You have taken the decision to run the risk of your partner passing somethign on to you. They are taking the risk of you passing on to them. If that's between consenting and fully informed adults then fine. I would worry though about people choosing and having the deliberate motivation to do this in a paid enviornment, after all there is no risk in cathcing something that you already have.

In relation to HIV, I posted these stats before, here they are again:

1% of female sex workers in London have HIV (External Link/Members Only.)
Chance of male contracting HIV from infected female is 0.042% (1 in 2380) (External Link/Members Only)
Chance of male contracting HIV from infected female with undetectable viral load is 0% (External Link/Members Only)
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In relation to HIV, I posted these stats before, here they are again:

1% of female sex workers in London have HIV (External Link/Members Only.)
Chance of male contracting HIV from infected female is 0.042% (1 in 2380) (External Link/Members Only)
Chance of male contracting HIV from infected female with undetectable viral load is 0% (External Link/Members Only)
Tell that to the undertaker.

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In relation to HIV, I posted these stats before, here they are again:

1% of female sex workers in London have HIV (External Link/Members Only.)
Chance of male contracting HIV from infected female is 0.042% (1 in 2380) (External Link/Members Only)
Chance of male contracting HIV from infected female with undetectable viral load is 0% (External Link/Members Only)

But you are looking at things purely from your own perspective, which is understandable but not necessarily always helpful.

For instance this forum now has a signifciant section on transexuals SPs. The risks from say unprotective receptive anal sex as opposed to covered sex as the giver are massively different.

PreP has changed the game somehwat for HiV, but drug resistant gonorrohoea, syphilis and countless others create their own problems.

Youve made your risk assessment and adjudged it to be ok. Others risk profiles are effected by many things. You appear to evangelise for bareback, to me its creepy. Probably not helped by perceptions that a proportion of those who seek it are generally pushing boundaries and potentially in their aim will seek out those who may be more vulnerable.

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But you are looking at things purely from your own perspective, which is understandable but not necessarily always helpful.

For instance this forum now has a signifciant section on transexuals SPs. The risks from say unprotective receptive anal sex as opposed to covered sex as the giver are massively different.

PreP has changed the game somehwat for HiV, but drug resistant gonorrohoea, syphilis and countless others create their own problems.

Youve made your risk assessment and adjudged it to be ok. Others risk profiles are effected by many things. You appear to evangelise for bareback, to me its creepy. Probably not helped by perceptions that a proportion of those who seek it are generally pushing boundaries and potentially in their aim will seek out those who may be more vulnerable.

I am looking at it from my own perspective, that is why I researched the stats around HIV with females and quoted same. I don't let men dressed as women fuck me, hence no stats on that, you can do your own research.

The OP asked for our view, I am merely giving my view, which you appear have a problem with. A but hypocritical given you too partake in other risky services.
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But you are looking at things purely from your own perspective, which is understandable but not necessarily always helpful.

For instance this forum now has a signifciant section on transexuals SPs. The risks from say unprotective receptive anal sex as opposed to covered sex as the giver are massively different.

PreP has changed the game somehwat for HiV, but drug resistant gonorrohoea, syphilis and countless others create their own problems.

Youve made your risk assessment and adjudged it to be ok. Others risk profiles are effected by many things. You appear to evangelise for bareback, to me its creepy. Probably not helped by perceptions that a proportion of those who seek it are generally pushing boundaries and potentially in their aim will seek out those who may be more vulnerable.

Just out of interest, what are your thoughts on the chances of catching something with a straight female (as a straight male) when always using protection? I do really want to try it again, and I know I’m overthinking, but hearing people’s experiences of sleeping with hundreds of people with protection and never catching anything does make me feel reassured of how small the chances are.

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Just out of interest, what are your thoughts on the chances of catching something with a straight female (as a straight male) when always using protection? I do really want to try it again, and I know I’m overthinking, but hearing people’s experiences of sleeping with hundreds of people with protection and never catching anything does make me feel reassured of how small the chances are.

If using protection for sex and oral, and you are not licking her pussy,  the chances are almost nil. In my opinion of course!
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If using protection for sex and oral, and you are not licking her pussy,  the chances are almost nil. In my opinion of course!

Sounds good! Thanks!

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If using protection for sex and oral, and you are not licking her pussy,  the chances are almost nil. In my opinion of course!

I take it  you're excluding such delights as genital warts, herpes, molluscum and a few others for which condoms have little effect?

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I take it  you're excluding such delights as genital warts, herpes, molluscum and a few others for which condoms have little effect?

This is what I worry about. But then whenever I search these forums I never see or hear of anyone that’s caught anything when they’ve used to protection. I always read that condoms don’t offer protection against these but then never actually speak to anyone who’s caught anything. I know this is just anecdotal feedback but it’s still strange.

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Sounds good! Thanks!

no, its not good! go look at proper medical online forums not one with comments from punters who are not medically trained. Because one person has not caught anything (or at least is not admitting it) is not "good info / data"

This is what I worry about. But then whenever I search these forums I never see or hear of anyone that’s caught anything when they’ve used to protection. I always read that condoms don’t offer protection against these but then never actually speak to anyone who’s caught anything. I know this is just anecdotal feedback but it’s still strange.

is it? who is going to admit to catching something that is practically incurable such as genital warts or genital herpes  - especially as some WG's view these forums and may be able to work out who the UKP member is on AW etc.

The is obviously less risk if you use condoms and only do OW and don't do RO or anal but there are still risks. But get your info and facts from "proper" sources.

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no, its not good! go look at proper medical online forums not one with comments from punters who are not medically trained. Because one person has not caught anything (or at least is not admitting it) is not "good info / data"

is it? who is going to admit to catching something that is practically incurable such as genital warts or genital herpes  - especially as some WG's view these forums and may be able to work out who the UKP member is on AW etc.

The is obviously less risk if you use condoms and only do OW and don't do RO or anal but there are still risks. But get your info and facts from "proper" sources.

Do you see SPs? And do you only receive hand relief?

People have been very open on here about what they’ve caught in the past so i don’t see why they wouldn’t mention it.

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Do you see SPs? And do you only receive hand relief?

People have been very open on here about what they’ve caught in the past so i don’t see why they wouldn’t mention it.

Is that anecdotal?

I don't recall many members on here who discussing that they have caught an STI.

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Do you see SPs? And do you only receive hand relief?

People have been very open on here about what they’ve caught in the past so i don’t see why they wouldn’t mention it.

To me, those don't seem like the words from a man that:

I started really worrying about catching an STI,

If you are not so worried why start a thread about it?  If you are genuinely worried, the best we can all do is accept that:


There are risks and you need to decide what you are happy with and take the appropriate protective measures and also get regularly tested.

If you are concerned about even skin to skin contact then I suspect punting is not for you.