first "nationalised" rail journey was a bus replacement

[southcoastpunter]

from BBC news:

""South Western Railway (SWR) has been renationalised, making it the first train company to transfer to public ownership.

The first nationalised service, from Woking to Surbiton, departed on time at 05:36, though the ongoing journey to London Waterloo was on a rail replacement bus "

ha - a bus replacement service ...typical!!

[scutty brown]

Sunday morning service so no surprise
They have to do engineering work, and that's about the best time to do it

[Blackpool Rock]

You couldn't make this shit up could you 
Realistically you'd have thought they would have checked or done something to avoid that happening just to avoid the negative PR 

[Mr Garmin]

Now this is a rail replacement service that you'd look forward to. Apparently people travel to the area just to experience it but the locals get priority.

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[DastardlyDick]

You couldn't make this shit up could you 
Realistically you'd have thought they would have checked or done something to avoid that happening just to avoid the negative PR 

To be fair,, it was probably set up well before the re-nationalisation - works on railways are planned months ahead so that things like this can be organised.
It's better than Great Northern last year who cancelled all trains between Keswick and  Barrow in Furness but had the replacement buses stopping over a mile from one of the Stations, with no notices to tell customers that, we're supposed to s psychic, apparently.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Can't see it improving anything, the railways were pertty crap pre the last privatisation and i expect that ASLEF and the RMT will hold the goverment to ransom!

Now is the time to start traing as a driver, they'll be paid more that airline captains before long!...

[DastardlyDick]

Now is the time to start traing as a driver, they'll be paid more that airline captains before long!...

My neighbour, a Police Sgt. has left that job to be a tube driver as it's better pay and pension rights.

[mrwhite]

from BBC news:

""South Western Railway (SWR) has been renationalised, making it the first train company to transfer to public ownership.

The first nationalised service, from Woking to Surbiton, departed on time at 05:36, though the ongoing journey to London Waterloo was on a rail replacement bus "

ha - a bus replacement service ...typical!!

Except it wasn't the "first" to be transferred to public ownership
LNER
South Eastern
TransPennine express
Northern
and
Scotrail

Were all taken back into public ownership before SWR.

Meanwhile neither SWR nor the government can do anything about the line being closed for scheduled maintenance.  The line would have been closed whether the TOC had been nationalised or not.

Nice attempt at Daily Fail style clickbait though.  But if you are going to tell a story tell the whole story, not just the headlines that fill a particular narrative.

[mrwhite]

Can't see it improving anything, the railways were pertty crap pre the last privatisation and i expect that ASLEF and the RMT will hold the goverment to ransom!

Now is the time to start traing as a driver, they'll be paid more that airline captains before long!...

But is that a bad thing?  Airline captains get their money for the responsibility of driving 2-300 people through the sky at high speed.  If they make a mistake then a lot of people could die.

An empty 737 weighs 40 tonnes, an Intercity train weighs 400 tonnes.  A 737 carries about 200 passengers, a train possibly up to 500.

When you consider the skill and responsibility of driving a modern train don't you think that is on a par with an airline pilot?  The Victorian notion of train driving being a dirty unskilled job are long gone.

[southcoastpunter]

Except it wasn't the "first" to be transferred to public ownership
LNER
South Eastern
TransPennine express
Northern
and
Scotrail

Were all taken back into public ownership before SWR.

well that is what the BBC said - maybe there is something in the word "renationalised" rather than just "taken back into public ownership?

Nice attempt at Daily Fail style clickbait though.  But if you are going to tell a story tell the whole story, not just the headlines that fill a particular narrative.

FFS - it was said tonque in cheek - and not as a political comment!

[scutty brown]

well that is what the BBC said - maybe there is something in the word "renationalised" rather than just "taken back into public ownership?

technically there is a difference
this was planned as a "new" operation
the others were all due to poor performance and/or collapse of the companies - they're under the control of the "office of last resort" with the government imposing new management on the existing businesses

[Malvolio]

To be fair,, it was probably set up well before the re-nationalisation - works on railways are planned months ahead so that things like this can be organised.
It's better than Great Northern last year who cancelled all trains between Keswick and  Barrow in Furness but had the replacement buses stopping over a mile from one of the Stations, with no notices to tell customers that, we're supposed to s psychic, apparently.

It's been a long time since there were any trains at Keswick.

[juzz]

But is that a bad thing?  Airline captains get their money for the responsibility of driving 2-300 people through the sky at high speed.  If they make a mistake then a lot of people could die.

An empty 737 weighs 40 tonnes, an Intercity train weighs 400 tonnes.  A 737 carries about 200 passengers, a train possibly up to 500.

When you consider the skill and responsibility of driving a modern train don't you think that is on a par with an airline pilot?  The Victorian notion of train driving being a dirty unskilled job are long gone.

I don't think the skills, training and educational requirements are comparable. In terms of people responsibility, yes.

[mrwhite]

FFS - it was said tongue in cheek - and not as a political comment!

Sorry - most of these things seem to descend to a political tug of war these days

[Xtro]

Back to the good ol' days....
 
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[DastardlyDick]

It's been a long time since there were any trains at Keswick.

Well it was in that area!