Blue Origin rocket launches into space

[myothernameis]

Katy Perry and star-studded crew return from brief space launch

The rocket looks like a big dildo 

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[DastardlyDick]

Katy Perry and star-studded crew return from brief space launch

The rocket looks like a big dildo 

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Reminds me of that Flash Gordon porn parody "Flesh Gordon"
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[timsussex]

Katy Perry and star-studded crew return from brief space launch

The rocket looks like a big dildo 

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since when do passengers on a 10 minute jaunt become space crew ?

[bigden40]

since when do passengers on a 10 minute jaunt become space crew ?

Exactly.  It’s in “space” for only about a minute of that time too.

[PepeMAGA]

Katy Perry and star-studded crew return from brief space launch

The rocket looks like a big dildo 

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The girls and Jeff looked like they were heading into space to film a gangbang

[Blackpool Rock]

since when do passengers on a 10 minute jaunt become space crew ?

Since they either started shagging him or stumped up around £200K 

[RandomGuy99]

Since they either started shagging him or stumped up around £200K 

One of them was Jeff's fiance.  She caught Mark Zuckerberg's attention. Jeff probably got extras last night

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[Blackpool Rock]

The girls and Jeff looked like they were heading into space to film a gangbang

Katy Perry was waxing lyrical about how it was such a big moment for women in space etc but there was an interview with a female space scientist who basically trashed all the empowerment BS that was being spouted, can't remember what was said now but it was a big long list of reasons why they were only space tourists

You used to be able to get a ride in a 2 seater F1 car but it doesn't make you an F1 driver 

[catweazle]

Exactly.  It’s in “space” for only about a minute of that time too.

Technically, they did reach space. The usually accepted definition is passing the Karman Line, 100km above sea level.  It's true they only had a minute beyond the line.

[RandomGuy99]

It's coot that it takes off and lands itself, but it's a little pointless and ridiculously expensive

[advent2016]

They're not crew, they're passengers.  It's like calling passengers in a commercial jet "crew", nonsense.
I liked the cartoon in the Telegraph


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[scutty brown]

It's just the latest take on the Tupperware or Ann Summers party:
The Blue Dildo party where you can try out the latest sex toys in zero G.
In space no-one can hear you orgasm

PS why wasn't Sigourney Weaver on that flight? Did she have more sense than to get involved?

[RandomGuy99]

PS why wasn't Sigourney Weaver on that flight? Did she have more sense than to get involved?

I think she has a phobia of aliens on spacecraft, so passed on a seat.

[PepeMAGA]

Katy Perry was waxing lyrical about how it was such a big moment for women in space etc but there was an interview with a female space scientist who basically trashed all the empowerment BS that was being spouted, can't remember what was said now but it was a big long list of reasons why they were only space tourists

You used to be able to get a ride in a 2 seater F1 car but it doesn't make you an F1 driver 

Yeah first wholly female crew since etc etc.
Tbh, they are probably taking nearly equal risk as a legitimate crew getting into space, however, they are just passengers.

[mr.bluesky]

Katy Perry was waxing lyrical about how it was such a big moment for women in space etc but there was an interview with a female space scientist who basically trashed all the empowerment BS that was being spouted, can't remember what was said now but it was a big long list of reasons why they were only space tourists

Especially as there have been numerous woman astronauts who actually do contribute something useful to the space programme.

[scutty brown]

Yeah first wholly female crew since etc etc.
Tbh, they are probably taking nearly equal risk as a legitimate crew getting into space, however, they are just passengers.

Or as Chuck Yeager so elegantly put it........Spam-in-a-can

[PepeMAGA]

Or as Chuck Yeager so elegantly put it........Spam-in-a-can

I watched some footage of it. It seems to have just been set up as an adult for blue origin or the women's individual businesses. Katy Perry is talking about her tour, Bezos has someone else open the capsule, then for the camera uses a tool to open it

[PepeMAGA]

Especially as there have been numerous woman astronauts who actually do contribute something useful to the space programme.

Helen Sharman jumps to mind. Without googling etc

[scutty brown]

Helen Sharman jumps to mind. Without googling etc

Or Sally Ride

[bigden40]

Helen Sharman jumps to mind. Without googling etc

Suni Williams most recently

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Well at least they were brave enough to go up in the rocket, these flights arent as safe as a conventional jet airliner !...

[maxQ]

Well at least they were brave enough to go up in the rocket, these flights arent as safe as a conventional jet airliner !...

They have an abort system, that no conventional jet airliner has, its safer IMO

[RandomGuy99]

They have an abort system, that no conventional jet airliner has, its safer IMO

But they do seem to be viewing it almost as a fairground ride with the trip taking around 30 minutes max and then they have a press conference. Tickets go for $28 million.  I wonder if they have a camera onboard taking photos that you can buy prints of later like they have on rollercoasters?

At some point an accident is going to occur as no space flight is 100% safe.

[mr.bluesky]

Helen Sharman jumps to mind. Without googling etc

There has also been a couple of Soviet Union women cosmonauts

[mr.bluesky]

At some point an accident is going to occur as no space flight is 100% safe.

As the space shuttle proved. There were that many space shuttle launches during its time that complacency set in.

[snaitram99]

There has also been a couple of Soviet Union women cosmonauts

Valentina Tereshkova was the first, back in the 60s.

[Munter84]

Valentina Tereshkova was the first, back in the 60s.

Yes, and they had the nerve to compare Blue Origin's low-altitude sightseeing trip/PR stunt to her genuine death-defying solo trip into the unknown ("First all-female mission since 1963...")

A few years back this all-female trip (I refuse to call it a "mission") would have attracted nothing but skin-crawling praise from the press and anybody daring to point out that it was little more than a fun afternoon and photo opportunity for a bunch of rich, famous, and very vapid women would have been called jealous or a misogynist. I'm glad to see common sense has eked a return as the coverage and public reaction to this stunt has been almost universally negative-to-lukewarm.

And that's not some anti-progressive sentiment from me, if anything it's a sign of positive change that celebrities making some patronising, expensive, token gesture is no longer seen as "inspiring" or "empowering". Girls and women already know they can participate in aerospace tech and astronaut programmes; they're already doing it. They don't need Katy Bloody Perry to give them permission to "believe in themselves". The world has moved on, and as a result this stunt hit a flat note.

[Bigwilts]

They have an abort system, that no conventional jet airliner has, its safer IMO

Conventional air liners do have an abort system.  They’re called ‘pilots’

[chrishornx]

They have an abort system, that no conventional jet airliner has, its safer IMO

how does it work?

[simon07]

I imagine, rather than looking at space, the earth etc they were too busy with selfies for their only fans, instagram and x accounts.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

They have an abort system, that no conventional jet airliner has, its safer IMO

If you compare the number of commercial jet passenger flights every day there's no comparision at all..

Have a look at such sites as flightrader24 thousands of flights on the go around the world..

[mr.bluesky]

If you compare the number of commercial jet passenger flights every day there's no comparision at all..

Have a look at such sites as flightrader24 thousands of flights on the go around the world..

Yes, I posted a snapshot of this on another thread recently. ( Random shit stupid thread)

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[JontyR]

Yes, and they had the nerve to compare Blue Origin's low-altitude sightseeing trip/PR stunt to her genuine death-defying solo trip into the unknown ("First all-female mission since 1963...")

A few years back this all-female trip (I refuse to call it a "mission") would have attracted nothing but skin-crawling praise from the press and anybody daring to point out that it was little more than a fun afternoon and photo opportunity for a bunch of rich, famous, and very vapid women would have been called jealous or a misogynist. I'm glad to see common sense has eked a return as the coverage and public reaction to this stunt has been almost universally negative-to-lukewarm.

And that's not some anti-progressive sentiment from me, if anything it's a sign of positive change that celebrities making some patronising, expensive, token gesture is no longer seen as "inspiring" or "empowering". Girls and women already know they can participate in aerospace tech and astronaut programmes; they're already doing it. They don't need Katy Bloody Perry to give them permission to "believe in themselves". The world has moved on, and as a result this stunt hit a flat note.

I'm not sure that was the message though. No one is going to spend £23million or whatever it is to "do science" on an 11 minute trip.

This was purely a marketing junket. This is tourism not exploration. And its a pretty niche market. If you can double the market by making it enticing to elite women then job done.

At risk of going off topic there are still plenty of barriers to sections of society progressing in certain job roles and functions which is often a detriment to us all. Many vocational and professional careers are seen as male or female. It takes a certain amount of strength for a bloke to work in early years education or social care. And I don't think this is the best of fora for asking for opinions on the real life challenges faced by young women.

[scutty brown]

If you think about it, given the lower average body size of women (and so lower weight) they should  be the first  choice for space  flight crew. Needs less energy to get them into orbit

[Bigwilts]

how does it work?

Blue Origin monitors its systems, highlights issues/warnings and decides on the course of action
Pilots monitor their aircraft’s systems, highlight issues/warnings and decide on the course of action

The appropriate course of action include aborting a take off, committing to take off but returning to land, aborting a journey and rerouting, shutting off systems, opting for an emergency landing etc

Airliners etc don’t have an ejection system, Blue Origin does, but so do particular jets (and they have also been tried for helicopters)
There’s a balance on what’s viable for an ejection etc - the presence of an abort ejection pod doesn’t necessarily make a rocket safer than an airliner - the safety systems differ for different risks

 

[PepeMAGA]

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[Watts.E.Dunn]

Blue Origin monitors its systems, highlights issues/warnings and decides on the course of action
Pilots monitor their aircraft’s systems, highlight issues/warnings and decide on the course of action

The appropriate course of action include aborting a take off, committing to take off but returning to land, aborting a journey and rerouting, shutting off systems, opting for an emergency landing etc

Airliners etc don’t have an ejection system, Blue Origin does, but so do particular jets (and they have also been tried for helicopters)
There’s a balance on what’s viable for an ejection etc - the presence of an abort ejection pod doesn’t necessarily make a rocket safer than an airliner - the safety systems differ for different risks

 

The ejction systems are fittled to fighter aircraft, not bloody airliners totally impractial!...

[DastardlyDick]

how does it work?

Basically, they must detach the crew/passenger capsule and deploy the parachutes on it. I went to KSC years ago, and if it looked like it was going wrong on the ground there were ropes attached to the crew area - the crew had to get out through  escape hatches, use the ropes like a zip wire and were collected on the ground by medics in modified Bradley armoured vehicles.

[RandomGuy99]

Basically, they must detach the crew/passenger capsule and deploy the parachutes on it. I went to KSC years ago, and if it looked like it was going wrong on the ground there were ropes attached to the crew area - the crew had to get out through  escape hatches, use the ropes like a zip wire and were collected on the ground by medics in modified Bradley armoured vehicles.

At KSC they had an evacuation system on the launch tower to allow people to zip wire away from the tower and then they were collected by an APC which then transported them to a bunker. However, it was only for use before launch.

After launch evacuation system on the Blue Origin is that the eject the crew pod and let it descend by parachute.

Ejection seat did exist on a helicopter and it involved explosive bolts that detached the rotor blades and then a standard ejection seat was used to eject the crew.  I don't fancy that with rotor blades deciding not to detach or dropping on a parachute with rotors blades dropping around me.

I think they did retrofit the Space Shuttle with a post-launch abort system but it could only be used up to a certain point after which you were committed to trying to get to space.

I think the F-111 bomber had an ejectable crew section in which the pilot and co-pilot descended to the ground under parachute.

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[mr.bluesky]

I think they did retrofit the Space Shuttle with a post-launch abort system but it could only be used up to a certain point after which you were committed to trying to get to space.

NASA did look into an emergency evacuation system for the space shuttle after the Challenger disaster but found out it was unfeasible. Major design changes would have to be implemented and they found out after doing tests using dummies the astronauts probably would not survive being pulled out of the shuttle at high speed by a drogue parachute.

[RandomGuy99]

NASA did look into an emergency evacuation system for the space shuttle after the Challenger disaster but found out it was unfeasible. Major design changes would have to be implemented and they found out after doing tests using dummies the astronauts probably would not survive being pulled out of the shuttle at high speed by a drogue parachute.

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[mr.bluesky]

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I did hear about this system you mentioned but I think this only worked if the shuttle was in stable flight perhaps if on re entry in the earth's atmosphere. The exit using drogue parachutes was if they had to abort the craft shortly after take off but with one or all booster rockets still attached and the high speed the shuttle would be travelling at it was found to be too dangerous and impractical.  I think after the Challenger disaster NASA had to be seen to be doing something to improve safety. The Columbia shuttle disaster ended the program anyway.

[timsussex]

American spacecraft have used several means of escape inc mini rockets mounted above them
The latest Orion capsule has several options

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[bigden40]

Stating the obvious, but …..

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“The crew who flew to space this week on an automated flight by Blue Origin were brave and glam, but you cannot identify as an astronaut.  They do not meet the FAA astronaut criteria.”

[RandomGuy99]

Stating the obvious, but …..

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“The crew who flew to space this week on an automated flight by Blue Origin were brave and glam, but you cannot identify as an astronaut.  They do not meet the FAA astronaut criteria.”

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[lostandfound]

I didn't watch any of the publicity they put out, but listened to a lot of the reaction.

TBH I thought they were missing the point as I listened to a space scientist indignantly debunking their claims to be astronauts etc. taking it far too serious IMO.

It was just a publicity stunt in aid of space tourism and from that perspective fantastically successful as it made global headlines. All a bit of fun.

200K is out of reach for most, but maybe in the future a jaunt into space might cost in the same ball park as a long haul flight in first or business class.

I can imagine going for that and getting the piss taken for months afterwards by friends and work colleagues for now being an "astronaut".