Agencies losing their grip?

[Toshiba]

Personally ive been sniffing around AW a lot and ive noticed many reviews on here and request for info on indies these days.

In particular Diamonds are hardly reviewed on here

Do you think apart from the well reviewed "stars" is poor fair ? Are they being complacent? Do the agencies need to up their game a bit or is it just that we are searching around a bit more now for value/better service

Dunno? Diamonds seem shite , Amour lack youth/stunners

Thoughts?

[toon972]

Have not looked at Diamonds this week,which is probably a first for me.Put a booking request in this morn to see Honey.If I do not get a reply by tomorrow morning will have a look at aw reviews on here.

[Toshiba]

Have not looked at Diamonds this week,which is probably a first for me.Put a booking request in this morn to see Honey.If I do not get a reply by tomorrow morning will have a look at aw reviews on here.

Diamonds looks shite, and there last 3 new recruits are "spanish" (romanian) and 2 Poles

Crap

[toon972]

Going down EE road again,failed for them last time and will do the same again.

[johnny34]

Diamonds have a poor selection at the minute, only 3/4 i'd consider. I've only used them once in the last 3 months & don't look at there site very often. A number of the better girls have left & been replaced with inferior foriegn girls..gets more like CherryDolls everyday!

[Toshiba]

Going down EE road again,failed for them last time and will do the same again.

I just dont trust "latvian" "polish" "spanish" i just see romanians in disgiuse

I almost have stopped looking at diamonds

Interesting louise is now working from gateshead, she usually works from her flat in kingston pk, i know she has new neighbours

[sentinel]

I think most punters will continue to use agencies and only a few of them will take the trouble to look at the reviews on sites such as this one.

Main reason being that agencies make the booking process relatively straightforward
- the phones are usually manned, in some cases 24/7
- there is no need to wait for e mail replies in the way that some indies operate
-the agencies usually vet the girls and try to insist on certain standards of reliability and a good, discreet service

There is a lot of bad publicity surrounding Adult Work such as scams, poor service, foreign girls, pimps etc.

The majority of punters just want to see a girl with the minimum of fuss and in some cases at relatively short notice, and to this end the agencies seem to provide that service.

[AnthG]

Dunno? Diamonds seem shite , Amour lack youth/stunners

Thoughts?

My opinion I think its just the way the agencies are setup.

Diamonds attract more so the young girls 18-21 or those nervous wanting to dip their toes into this industry.

Amour is more so those who either starting out but are older (so thus have their own house), or ones who have been doing this for a while and have moved from another agency or just found they couldn't run things independently on AW.

And I would say the reason for those differences is the flats situation. Diamonds will either offer the girl a flat to work from, or be the one to book and arrange the hotel for them to work from.

Amour its a case of the girl needs to have somewhere to work from or book the hotel all herself.

The problem with that is, girls who are 18 or 19 and just starting out or dipping their toes into this industry will never have their own house or flat to work from.

They will be too nervous to even think of booking a hotel room to work from so it means they will go to Diamonds.

On the flipside because Diamonds is setup more so catering for 'new talent' - as in the flats are not the best but good enough, and it seems the new girls get the most attention, after a while of working when a girl gets her confidence up and established in this industry she wants out and thus goes to Amour.

That is just my belief mind, so I could be wrong.

With regards to the independent vs Agency situation. I just do not trust a girl to manage a booking via independent. And for me its a fundamental lack of trust of them being able to manage it not just a inkling or minor concern. So I will always book via agencies.

The Teen Jade thread has pretty much shown why as independents girls cannot be trusted. I highly doubt this would have happened if she was booked via an agency as for one the agency wouldn't let her double book by accident, or accept a better offer if one came along last minute. (For the record I say this on the basis of not believing she had a migraine. I think a longer booking offer came along and she cancelled the first)

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=42400.0

[Barry Shipton]

With regards to the independent vs Agency situation. I just do not trust a girl to manage a booking via independent. And for me its a fundamental lack of trust of them being able to manage it not just a inkling or minor concern. So I will always book via agencies.

The Teen Jade thread has pretty much shown why as independents girls cannot be trusted. I highly doubt this would have happened if she was booked via an agency as for one the agency wouldn't let her double book by accident, or accept a better offer if one came along last minute. (For the record I say this on the basis of not believing she had a migraine. I think a longer booking offer came along and she cancelled the first)

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=42400.0

But you tend to go for girls under 24 Anth - I've happily booked more experienced independent escorts and not been let down as much as I was by Diamonds losing my bookings.

As I said on the Teen Jade thread I think it's the attitude of younger escorts who see this as a quick way to buy the designer shoes and foreign holidays their mates can't afford - versus more established girls who are more professional.

[sentinel]

Agree with Barry.

I reckon some of the younger Diamonds girls might think of it as an easy way to make some quick money without having to go to all the trouble of finding a flat, setting it up, advertising, getting an AW profile, doing a photo shoot etc etc.
Diamonds will probably take care of most of that, for a fee of course, whereas with Amour the girls have often already got themselves established and want that little bit more of independence that Amour allows them to have.
Let's not forget it was Diamonds who brought the Roma gypos to the area, when all the other agencies probably wouldn't have touched them with proverbial barge pole.

[AnthG]

Going down EE road again,failed for them last time and will do the same again.

I was thinking about this, and I remember the last time when George went away on holiday for a period and they switched all the Romanians on the site from down as Romanian to Spanish, Greek, German etc. And then when he came back switched them back.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=22654.0

From what has been said on the forums George has either left, retired or just taking a back seat from Diamonds and let someone else take over. And now once again a load of new 'Spanish' and 'Latvians' are joining up.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=40940.msg548075#msg548075

I wouldn't trust this situation at all personally as it seems likely it will be Romanians that is being tried on again. Avoid anyone down as not British on Diamonds site I would say.

[Highlander]

Quick answer - No

Long answer - In reference to the thread title, I think Amour are looking stronger than I can ever remember with the quality of girls they have just now. Diamonds are in a bit of a lull at the minute but they were dire about a year or so ago (see link below) then improved significantly and but have fairly recently lost a few "worldies" like Honey and Lily (Delphine), Alix and Collette.

 Diamonds November 2013 aka The Eastern Euro nadir
External Link/Members Only

There's not a single girl there that takes my fancy. Contrast that with today's offerings where I would happily see Morgan, Faith, Jessica, Brooke, or Zoey.

[toon972]

Just for the record,no reply from Honey.I have seen her before and said I could book with her phone number

[Trelf]

Wouldnt comment on Diamonds as I havent used them for years but IMHO Amour go from strength to strength. Great service from some seriously fit girls and Stacey is excellent at the job she does.

[Stevesmith]

I had a booking with Olga a few weeks ago, she is not 24 nor is she a size 10, she/it looked like a heshe, convinced she had a wig on, I walked and phoned diamonds and told them why, firstly she is not 24, secondly she is not a size 10. She is Latvian or Russian, as when I refused her she spoke in Russian to the other girl in the flat, I have spent a lot of time in Latvia and former Soviet satellite states, don't speak it perfect but understand it pretty good.

[Toshiba]

I had a booking with Olga a few weeks ago, she is not 24 nor is she a size 10, she/it looked like a heshe, convinced she had a wig on, I walked and phoned diamonds and told them why, firstly she is not 24, secondly she is not a size 10. She is Latvian or Russian, as when I refused her she spoke in Russian to the other girl in the flat, I have spent a lot of time in Latvia and former Soviet satellite states, don't speak it perfect but understand it pretty good.

Then review it, it all helps mate, you don't have to have fucked them to review

[Jamessn]

Yes they are.

Diamonds are back to renting flats, I bet they get raided, especially since ENE has closed down after several raids last year and the court proceedings. I have had about 20 bookings with them over the years and they have cocked up 75% of them; wrong address, girl not working, girl hour late and so on and on.

So they are out as far as I am concerned.

Amour never have anyone I fancy on the days I can go, so they are out really too.

Leaves dolly birds, ct and prestige. No one in any of them, outcall, old, plump etc. Valentine's is outcall so no good either.

Finally adore and elite, no chance of me going there, violence can happen, no calendar, suspicious images and shared premises.

Leaves the independents, mostly the ones I have contacted, do not answer, put the price up on the day, are late, push you out early, not what you thought they would look like, etc etc.

You knew what you were getting with Notorious, always a selection, but from shared premises, so even they would be out of it now.

[dino1990]

Wouldnt comment on Diamonds as I havent used them for years but IMHO Amour go from strength to strength. Great service from some seriously fit girls and Stacey is excellent at the job she does.

Amour aren't all that. Girls on a rota in the same hotel rooms, badly photoshopped images, inaccurate stats, 80% girls outcalls only.

[ohfook1t]

and how would that work dino? the other girl sits in the bathroom for the duration of punt or just sit on bedside chair watching?

[dino1990]

pretty much, last time I booked with amour I went to hotel room and the previous girl was still there. She left and was probably coming back after my appointment.

[MasterChief]

and how would that work dino? the other girl sits in the bathroom for the duration of punt or just sit on bedside chair watching?

Thats a bit horny, I might see if I can arrange this

[Toshiba]

Amour aren't all that. Girls on a rota in the same hotel rooms, badly photoshopped images, inaccurate stats, 80% girls outcalls only.

Pretty much agree with that, weed out the outcalls, trannies, preops, codgers, and big girls theres nowt much left, i agree they are catering for choice, no problem, but in this game i want fit and filthy .they do seem to be economical on girls stats but thats every fucker in this game tbh

Amour seem decent to deal with, but not outstanding in truth

[Trelf]

Pretty much agree with that, weed out the outcalls, trannies, preops, codgers, and big girls theres nowt much left, i agree they are catering for choice, no problem, but in this game i want fit and filthy .they do seem to be economical on girls stats but thats every fucker in this game tbh

Amour seem decent to deal with, but not outstanding in truth

Seeing as I am bored shitless this afternoon I dcided to have a quick look at the Amour site to see if that is fair comment or not....you decide......

26 girls working today
15 available for incall while 11 are outcall only.

Of the 15 incall girls 10 are 33yrs old or younger and size 12 or below.
This does include Liily Delphine who is only working an hour so maybe shouldnt be included!!

Granted there are plenty of other reasons why you will or wont want to book them but still a reasonable choice.

For the record I have no affliation with any agency....I just thought I would see what the reality is.
And I know the numbers would be totally different on any other day but I thought it was interesting to see what the situation was today.

[Toshiba]

Seeing as I am bored shitless this afternoon I dcided to have a quick look at the Amour site to see if that is fair comment or not....you decide......

26 girls working today
15 available for incall while 11 are outcall only.

Of the 15 incall girls 10 are 33yrs old or younger and size 12 or below.
This does include Liily Delphine who is only working an hour so maybe shouldnt be included!!

Granted there are plenty of other reasons why you will or wont want to book them but still a reasonable choice.

For the record I have no affliation with any agency....I just thought I would see what the reality is.
And I know the numbers would be totally different on any other day but I thought it was interesting to see what the situation was today.

Maybe im going on my preference, i wont even look at over size 10, and im talking 19-25 max in age, plus my height phobia of under say 5'6 ....but im not fussy really 

No i get the point, they have girls to suit most tastes, my reason to start the thread was that noticed a lot of indies being reviewed and even myself has started to dabble on AW, something i never thought id do, so i was trying to see if it was me who just thought the agencies were not all that tbh

[Trelf]

Yeah we all have our preferences....some have narrower parameters than others!!

My biggest issue regarding having a booking is finance rather than choice!!

[AnthG]

26 girls working today
15 available for incall while 11 are outcall only.

I was bored too so had a hunt through Amours site at the available today lists and I can kind of see what HC is saying.

The main issue I have is one I have banged on about with the Newcastle agencies many times and that is they are not really based in Newcastle. Amours web address is called - newcastleescortsagency.co.uk - and yet there are barely any girls working in Newcastle.

These Newcastle agencies should change their names to; Gatesheadescortagency.co.uk and DiamondsofGateshead.co.uk as it seems much more appropriate given that is where almost all of their girls are based.

Looking down the list if I fancied a booking today. I would say my requirements would be similar to HCs

1. Someone 18-25 (not bothered about dress size or height myself) And 2. Available for an incall somewhere in or quite reachable to Newcastle And 3. Someone British

Looking down the list to find girls who fit that.

1. Cassie would be one for definite.
2. There is also Adriana who gets a lot of positive reviews here but people have said she is Eastern European so this makes me hesitant to book as I like to have a laugh and a chat with the girl during bookings which means I would like to see a British girl.
3. Olivia is in Wallsend
3. Maxine is in Gateshead but she is a BBW so an acquired taste, she would be great for me to see but maybe I am unique in that
4. Laila is in Gateshead

All the rest are either outcall only, or in impossible to reach places from Newcastle (unless you are very dedicated for a punt) like Darlington, Middlesborough and Seaton Delaval.

So it seems if you want a punt the three mass appeal choices are Cassie, Olivia or Laila today.

Looking at Diamonds the same also applies. If I wanted a booking with them today it seems - fitting my criteria - I have a choice of Frankie May, Jessica or Molly.

So that means out of a choice of 103 girls (as amour have 58 girls and Diamonds have 45 girls on their books) today there is a choice of 6 girls fitting the right criteria

That's not great TBH.

but I can bet if I wasted an hour I would find only about 3 or so independents available on Adultwork for today fitting that criteria too.

So I think a better thing would be just to say selection in Newcastle is bad at the moment.

But just to add. If I was going for a booking today I would go for one of either Cassie, Maxine or Frankie May. And be pleased that I did. (I felt that edit was needed just incase people thought I was moaning that there is nobody to see when there clearly is so was not what I was saying)

[Toshiba]

Great work Anth

And again backs up my point that many of the reviews popping up are indies at the minute

But thats us, the agencies still have many punters

[Highlander]

Anth - Interesting post as usual. A couple of points though. The thread title asks if agencies are losing their grip? Do you think that 3 girls you would happily see on a day's rota is significantly less than in the past?

I wouldn't rule out Adriana @ Amour on the basis of her being Polish. She either grew up over here or at least has been here for years and her english is impeccable. Probably at least on a par with mine being from north of the border  Certainly capable of a laugh and a chat, that's for sure. Not my cup of tea as she's pure GFE and i'm more of a PSE man but she's certainly fit and I had a good booking with her. 

Whilst I can sort of see your point about agencies not being solely based in Newcastle. If they were just in Newcastle they'd have to start sharing flats more or organise more premises drawing more plod attention and would be more likely to be raided like ENE were. I for one feel more relaxed at non Newcastle agency flats or AW girls homes/organised flats.

[Uniformad]

I don't think the choice is great at the min once you filter to what your looking for.

Change to aw though and I spent an hour today blocking fake or unreliable girls from my original filtered search this gave me one page from an original four page return, this proves there is so much crap on aw and this forum has become great for helping find the right girls and not wasting money on crap punts.

[rushman1uk]

I gave a negative review of a lass that worked with Diamonds who was drunk, stunk of bo & had her 'dyke' (her words, not mine) girlfriend in another room. I was short timed, told to hurry up, in a filthy bedroom, messy i could of put up with but not filthy & when i reviewed her on Diamonds it was changed to 5 stars & a fantastic write up. Never used them again after that!

[AnthG]

I gave a negative review of a lass that worked with Diamonds who was drunk, stunk of bo & had her 'dyke' (her words, not mine) girlfriend in another room. I was short timed, told to hurry up, in a filthy bedroom, messy i could of put up with but not filthy & when i reviewed her on Diamonds it was changed to 5 stars & a fantastic write up. Never used them again after that!

I would say definitely put the review for her on here.

[toon972]

Completely agree name and shame to stop other people wasting money.

[Toshiba]

I gave a negative review of a lass that worked with Diamonds who was drunk, stunk of bo & had her 'dyke' (her words, not mine) girlfriend in another room. I was short timed, told to hurry up, in a filthy bedroom, messy i could of put up with but not filthy & when i reviewed her on Diamonds it was changed to 5 stars & a fantastic write up. Never used them again after that!

 

Where's the review for us?? Go on we need to know

[FLYING BLUE]

I gave a negative review of a lass that worked with Diamonds who was drunk, stunk of bo & had her 'dyke' (her words, not mine) girlfriend in another room. I was short timed, told to hurry up, in a filthy bedroom, messy i could of put up with but not filthy & when i reviewed her on Diamonds it was changed to 5 stars & a fantastic write up. Never used them again after that!

Please name this girl otherwise your post has absolutely Zero substance!

[MasterChief]

Please name this girl otherwise your post has absolutely Zero substance!

Call me a cynic but I don't think that's going to happen