Sugar Babies
Shemales

Author Topic: Fucking Eastern Europeans, particularly Romanians.  (Read 13784 times)

Offline sushi

External Link/Members Only

External Link/Members Only

There is just too much evidence of abuse against EE prossies especially the Romanians not to take the problem seriously.

Offline smiths

Im not referring to all foreign girls I'm specificaly saying Romanian prossies if you can read those reports (and they are just a small sample found in 5 minutes on google) showing the estimated figures of girls trafficked into the UK and Europe and still feel ok about funding it go right ahead. 
I might not have much of a concience when it comes to punting but thats where I draw the line.

You said it, estimated, like the figures Harriet Harridan used in 2009/10 of 4000 trafficked for sex women to help get her coercion law through, a figure never proved by convictions.

I dont believe estimated figures, i require actual proof by way of convictions as i dont have ANY trust in estimates from previous similar estimates i have read over the years that were never proven.

Offline sushi

You said it, estimated, like the figures Harriet Harridan used in 2009/10 of 4000 trafficked for sex women to help get her coercion law through, a figure never proved by convictions.

I dont believe estimated figures, i require actual proof by way of convictions as i dont have ANY trust in estimates from previous similar estimates i have read over the years that were never proven.
No smiths what you are actually saying is you dont want to believe it! You would rather punt in ignorance than accept the the very real possibility the prossie you are shaggin has a high chance of being trafficked and controlled by a burly Romanian pimp. 
Sergei sends his regards.

Offline smiths

No smiths what you are actually saying is you dont want to believe it! You would rather punt in ignorance than accept the the very real possibility the prossie you are shaggin has a high chance of being trafficked and controlled by a burly Romanian pimp. 
Sergei sends his regards.

I have made clear what i think. What you choose to believe is up to you.

Offline Ali Katt

  • Board Moderator
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,961
  • Likes: 14
  • Reviews: 28
No-ones said it yet, but there would be no need for EE prossies, if there was a good collection of British ones on the game. Everyone knows British women (not just prossies) are a laughing stock: size 16 the average dress size, fattest in Europe, chav mingers like Cheryl Cole get voted the sexiest woman in the UK, and if mumsnet represents the average UK woman in terms of personality then God help us all. No wonder a lot of punters would rather keep Sergei and Abdul in ganja and bugle if that's the competition.

Offline akauya

No-ones said it yet, but there would be no need for EE prossies, if there was a good collection of British ones on the game. Everyone knows British women (not just prossies) are a laughing stock: size 16 the average dress size, fattest in Europe, chav mingers like Cheryl Cole get voted the sexiest woman in the UK, and if mumsnet represents the average UK woman in terms of personality then God help us all. No wonder a lot of punters would rather keep Sergei and Abdul in ganja and bugle if that's the competition.

Indeed... oh and we mustn't forget, they charge us premium fees for the privilege.

Offline Laying Pipe

With regards to find a decent English WG, someone already mentioned two in a previous discussion, both from HOD working from Milton Keynes and London, Amy and Scarlet.
I have see Amy back end of last year paid £90 for 45 mins. She is as horny as hell and I had trouble keeping her under control.
She post OW at CIM at discretion, However I did not have to request, after a quick inspection and quick wipe she had my cock up to my balls in her mouth. Her OW was just superb. I had to stop her otherwise the punt would have been over there and then.
Licking and sucking my balls with her wet tongue was just sensational.
She did say no fingers, but she got carried away and said what the hell ,but don't be rough.
I got her to slow down , I took control, gave her a massage, more OW, fucked her hard doggy and she fucked me cowgirl. More OW in 69 with my figure up her wet pussy as I am not into eating pussy.
Bang her as hard as I could in doggy to completion.
I have not made a return visit due to too many possibilities on my HTL
Do not judge my post too harshly as it is my first

Offline jesus_jones

No-ones said it yet, but there would be no need for EE prossies, if there was a good collection of British ones on the game. Everyone knows British women (not just prossies) are a laughing stock: size 16 the average dress size, fattest in Europe, chav mingers like Cheryl Cole get voted the sexiest woman in the UK, and if mumsnet represents the average UK woman in terms of personality then God help us all. No wonder a lot of punters would rather keep Sergei and Abdul in ganja and bugle if that's the competition.

Exactly.

Even if I have a shit punt with an EE wg for 30mins, at least she's probably going to be young, slim and fit. I am also only set back £50 odd quid. At worst I think of it as a posh wank.

Compare that to paying exorbitant sums for an English 'courtesan', who will be twice the age of the EE girl and probably twice the waist size. The only thing you can say for certain is that the potential loss will be greater at the higher price bracket if the punt is crap.

I can certainly tell you that on the occasions I have paid £100/120/150ph and had a shit punt, it has pissed me off for DAYS afterwards, the worst being MissSexy (External Link/Members Only https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=14697.0) who conned me out of £130 with barely a blowjob or a shag.

Offline CBPaul

No-ones said it yet, but there would be no need for EE prossies, if there was a good collection of British ones on the game. Everyone knows British women (not just prossies) are a laughing stock: size 16 the average dress size, fattest in Europe, chav mingers like Cheryl Cole get voted the sexiest woman in the UK, and if mumsnet represents the average UK woman in terms of personality then God help us all. No wonder a lot of punters would rather keep Sergei and Abdul in ganja and bugle if that's the competition.

Very good points.

I would also add that on the whole the English prossies I've tried to book over the last couple of years have been a nightmare, requiring emails, texts and a phone call in a particular order I didn't know just to get the chance to meet on one of the two days in the month they were working. As Akauya says, all for a premium price.

No wonder I've punted with EE girls for so long and my best punts have tended to be with Polish prossies. I have no doubt that there are decent Romanian prossies out there but they are outweighed by those giving crap service - the risk of finding a decent one is a risk I'm not so willing to take any more.

Offline Ali Katt

  • Board Moderator
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,961
  • Likes: 14
  • Reviews: 28
With regards to find a decent English WG, someone already mentioned two in a previous discussion, both from HOD working from Milton Keynes and London, Amy and Scarlet.
I have see Amy back end of last year paid £90 for 45 mins. She is as horny as hell and I had trouble keeping her under control.

I think this is a review, but with regards parlour girls and value you've got a good point. I don't have HOD on my doorstep, but where I live to see a slim British girl, parlours are the only way.

Quote
I would also add that on the whole the English prossies I've tried to book over the last couple of years have been a nightmare, requiring emails, texts and a phone call in a particular order I didn't know just to get the chance to meet on one of the two days in the month they were working. As Akauya says, all for a premium price.
Good point, who knows what they are up to and why EEs seem to manage it. I remember a few years back I tried to make a booking one girl didn't answer her phone twice, once at 10am again at 1pm went to voicemail. Second girl didn't give me a postcode, after making a booking. I went to a parlour instead and saw a British girl who was actually a great shag.


charming_red

  • Guest
No-ones said it yet, but there would be no need for EE prossies, if there was a good collection of British ones on the game. Everyone knows British women (not just prossies) are a laughing stock: size 16 the average dress size, fattest in Europe, chav mingers like Cheryl Cole get voted the sexiest woman in the UK, and if mumsnet represents the average UK woman in terms of personality then God help us all. No wonder a lot of punters would rather keep Sergei and Abdul in ganja and bugle if that's the competition.

Nail on head!

And not everyone is attracted to British girls. Prettier, tanned, fit EEs are far more tempting than Brits.

Only a few EEs I've seen have been shit. The majority have been vey good.

Offline punk

there are some cracking english birds out there,however some are not escorts.

Racer

  • Guest
I'm sorry for your bad experience, Sumofallparts.

There are many Romanian girls around my area. Because I always read the reviews on here, I hardly ever visit any. However, I have visited 3 (posted 2 reviews and forgot to post the one between those 2 visits). I had 2 positive visits (1 because she was value for money and they other one was very enjoyable) and the third visit was neutral because I wanted to fuck her arse and she said I was too big without hardly trying.

They Romanians usually charge less than other girls, so I suppose a lower level of service is to be expected. In fact, bearing that in mind I should make more visits!

Having said that, I find the Polish girls better looking and also the Hungarians. Ok, that sounds like a sweeping comment...
I wouldn't write of a professional only because she is EE or Romanian.

Ravanelli

  • Guest
there are some cracking english birds out there,however some are not escorts.

That's where I've been going wrong… I've been offering any cracking bird I see cash to suck me off.   :D

Offline punk

That's where I've been going wrong… I've been offering any cracking bird I see cash to suck me off.   :D

your be lucky enough to get some of them to do any thing, sucking cock equals to much work.

Offline kidpoontang

Chinese WG's are the same, they really look the part, slim with long hair but the service is boring. 
Most of the agencies say they offer OWO but they never do.

Jason

  • Guest
With Romanian and other EE girls being stereotyped here so much it is good to have the typical picture of our British prossies. Note that as I am against stereotyping I don't make absolute statements but observations flagging up things occurring frequently (nb. some are London based observations):
(1) Facially a British prossie is a 6-8 (hard to find an 8.5 or higher). Typically their dress size is at best 10/11/12 (it is rare to find size 6 or 8). Also size 18+ whales are typically British… 
(2) They severely lie about their age. Once they pass the age of 27-28 y.o time stops, a time machine is acquired and a journey back in time begins. Although other nationalities do lie about their age too the EE prostitute population is not aged – most EE WGs are <35 y.o lying 5 years at most. It is the British prossies that are permanent residents here and come in all ages and have the audacity to even shove off decades.
(3) Overpriced. Mingers are charging £120ph and the physically good ones i.e. with slim body and face score >8 are typically in the £200+ range. It is relevant to note here that many British WGs are just outcall part-timers and most of them like to do Reverse Bookings (RB). These part-timers cleverly set a relatively high price on their profiles like £180ph so that they can bid for £120ph and you to get the false impression that you got a good deal. Problem with this is that I am still talking about overpriced mingers.
(4) Their profiles have shit pictures and rarely show face pictures. 
(5) They are full of rules and make you jump through hoops. They do not display a phone number and you need to book via AW in order to screen you. Also difficult to book same day. They like to ‘tour’ across the country or city and as this means working from hotels or from day-rented incall locations on pre-selected dates they take bookings well in advance after plastering their availability dates all over their profiles.
(6) Those who take same day bookings showing phone number are very disorganised and are very unreliable in their bookings – they have the highest probability to be double booked, fuck you about and waste your time.
(7) They are those most likely to give you malicious revenge negative feedback when reviewed negatively (even going to SAAFE to post your details as dangerous etc). They are also the ones who will at some point come to UKP to rebut their non-positive reviews with lies, tout on their positives or even post fake +ve reviews about themselves.
(8)They have a significantly higher probability to be coke-heads than prossies from other nationalities.
(9) They are up their own arses. They are lazy and experts in time wasting tactics during bookings preferring to chat than fuck.
(10) For incalls they almost never give you their approximate location (postcode or street name) – instead they give you a broad point (e.g. a tube station) from which you have to call to get shit directions a few mins before the arranged meeting. Only exception is *sometimes* when they are working from hotels.
(11) Many British escort profiles belong to web-cammers who have no intention of escorting.

P.S:
1. Ironically some of the above observations are not applicable when it comes to the majority of British pornstar escorts (excluding webcammers). It is the ‘common’ British prossies that are the problem.
2. Some people here with Anti-Romanian agenda state they that cannot find British girls when British prossies are criticised. Get your facts straight. You cannot find British girls THAT YOU LIKE. There are TONS of British prossies and you do find their profiles BUT you dismiss them because you find their rules, looks, size, pictures, prices, availiability etc to be ridiculous and shit. They are also those who do webcamming and falsely advertise as escorts... if you want to talk about someone who mess up your searches are them. Probability wise you have the same chance to find the English prossie with the specifications you want as you have to find a good Romanian. But simply these people don't like ANY Romanian – not even those who have been reviewed here consistently as excellent and who tick all their boxes in terms of services, appearance and attitude. They derive pleasure commenting on every negative Romanian review because this makes them feeling ‘justified’ for their beliefs. My response to them is this: Take a look at our External Link/Members Only. The thieves, the scammers, those who out punters, the criminally convicted, the drug-addicts, etc are ALL British. :hi:

Offline akauya


Offline Johny Stone

Makes you see things from a different perspective  :hi:

Stick

  • Guest
My experience is that hungarian grils the most beautyful, crean, end they speak english!  :thumbsup:

Offline Ali Katt

  • Board Moderator
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,961
  • Likes: 14
  • Reviews: 28
Quote
(7) They are those most likely to give you malicious revenge negative feedback when reviewed negatively (even going to SAAFE to post your details as dangerous etc). They are also the ones who will at some point come to UKP to rebut their non-positive reviews with lies, tout on their positives or even post fake +ve reviews about themselves.
The only thing I disagree with is this. We have had Inked Emma (Polish) come on here and five it both barrels and some girl from Woodsmans casting (Polish?). I think many British prossies come on here to mouth off about punters  reviews simply because they have too much time on their hands and speak English as a first language so find it easier than a "forriner". These silly women need to realise that one negative review won't stop them getting bookings, but posting fake reviews or saying all the punters they see have stinking willies might.

Offline punk

If you want to waste your money than please do, as some punters have more money than sense. Best romainian prossies i've seen have been danni and sweet alessia?mid 30's

External Link/Members Only

now  the black listed prossies prove how dangerous punting can be.

Best East europeans are hungarians and poles.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 05:54:56 pm by punk »

Offline sushi

My experience is that hungarian grils the most beautyful, crean, end they speak english!  :thumbsup:
Are you a hungarian prossie?

Offline Ali Katt

  • Board Moderator
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,961
  • Likes: 14
  • Reviews: 28
My experience is that hungarian grils the most beautyful, crean, end they speak english!  :thumbsup:
Poles and Baltic all the way for me.

Offline sumofallparts

As the OP, I feel I should respond to Jason's excellent posting.

To a degree yes, I have stereotyped Romanians. This partly based on my experiences plus those of others. I thought it was a consensus view. I didn't say it was scientific and TBH I did say that the thin, black haired look most Romanian girls have is 100% my think - hence why I have gone to see them in the first place! There is no doubting, as a collective, Romanian girls are generally uber pretty and desirable. It is the service and attitude that sticks in the craw.

British girls as a comparison are more even in my experience. Some good, some bad. Most do put a bit of effort in though.

1. Agree that 'generally' Romanians are better looking.IMHO.
2. Agree that British girls fib more about their age. Carly G are you reading this!
3. Agree a lot of British girls are over priced. Romanians seem cracking value based on looks - but their service lets it all down.

Most of what Jason says is true. It is a minefield and there is no demographic or group that is better, as everyone has a different idea of best.

Generally though, in 10 yrs of punting - I stand by the general tone of what i said about Romanians. Though I concede some were so beautiful, I would have just stared at them and wanked.

Why can't the best looking girls just give the best service ?!





Aspen

  • Guest
I have nothing against Romanians per se. Why are the majority so bloody awful at this game though?

Because it's in their genes to rip you off.

Have you never encountered the flower sellers and windscreen washers?

Offline Johny Stone

I think the reason why most of them suck at this job is because of their comunist mentality and their pimps not teaching them anything. Sergey only wants his money, why should he care about quality?

The ones who open their minds and learn to like what they do become good prossies, the ones who are prossying just for the money, with their heads full with shame and regrets, provide a shit service.
This might aply to any nationality.

here4fun

  • Guest
This girl was my regular when I lived in Watford.  Absolutely superb.  Romanian as Ceacescu, tall and with EVERYTHING on the menu.  The only thing she wanted extra for was A-levels, which I'm not hugely keen on anyway. 

External Link/Members Only

Offline punk

basically to get a good fuck from a Romanian you have to go for the 100+ mark?

Offline superchamp

Like many on here I've had some very good punts with Hungarian and Polish prossies but I'm becoming increasingly more wary of the Romanian's because more often that not, in my experience, the reality is poor service resulting at best in just an 'average' punt. However, I don't put this down to all Romanian girls being the same but more that all Sergei's are the same i.e. scum thieving cunts who don't give a shit about their girls and would rather just keep chucking quantity at us punters rather than quality. The root of the problem is that the thick Sergei's don't understand that we'll go back again and again if the service is good, but once is enough if it's bad. Customer satisfaction obviously still isn't that important to the EE businessman.

Aspen

  • Guest
basically to get a good fuck from a Romanian you have to go for the 100+ mark?

I didn't know there were any around that are that old.

Offline Ali Katt

  • Board Moderator
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,961
  • Likes: 14
  • Reviews: 28
Like many on here I've had some very good punts with Hungarian and Polish prossies but I'm becoming increasingly more wary of the Romanian's because more often that not, in my experience, the reality is poor service resulting at best in just an 'average' punt. However, I don't put this down to all Romanian girls being the same but more that all Sergei's are the same i.e. scum thieving cunts who don't give a shit about their girls and would rather just keep chucking quantity at us punters rather than quality. The root of the problem is that the thick Sergei's don't understand that we'll go back again and again if the service is good, but once is enough if it's bad. Customer satisfaction obviously still isn't that important to the EE businessman.
IMHO your speaking sense, but I still think british prossies are the worst in Europe. There are a lot of negative reviews on here for Romanians, but that's simply because they are cheaper and pretty. No-one wants to spend £150 on a fat old battleaxe.

Offline punk


Offline punk

IMHO your speaking sense, but I still think british prossies are the worst in Europe. There are a lot of negative reviews on here for Romanians, but that's simply because they are cheaper and pretty. No-one wants to spend £150 on a fat old battleaxe.

but some will spend x amount because she is stunning, Romanian and want to be the big bollocks and feel they have some thing to prove! Oh and still get a shit service.

Who in their right mind really wants to pay 80-140 notes and get a shit time?

People blame sergi but its the women as well, they are taking the piss out of punters and laughing all the way to the bank, and what ever they make must be a damn sight better than from where the place they came from.

Stevesmith

  • Guest
Done a few Romanians, the service can be hit and miss but the girls are generally far far better looking than the British SP's, I have a rule that I would never pay for a girl if I can pick up the same standard for free in a club/pub.  No chance I am paying a Big Beached Whale for sex.


Offline adindas

It was tongue in cheek mate, based on your thread title.

Seriously, in regards to your thread. The reality is that most of them have been trafficked here,
.....

Just be aware that we will need to be extremely careful to make the statement of a girl on AWs being trafficked ….
People who have evidence will need to report it immediately to Crime Stopper as it is a serious crime against humanity  ... 
   
Here is where to report it e.g NCA :
External Link/Members Only
If you have information about human trafficking or hold urgent information that requires an immediate response dial 999.

If you hold information that could lead to the identification, discovery and recovery of victims in the UK, you can also contact the charity Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

Many people are using the word of “trafficking” and “pimping” interchangeably. In general many people entering any industry through agent. The fooballers, bankers whitel collars workers, many of them entering industries through an agent. In the prossie world the agent might be a pimp.

Keep in mind if you said the girls on AW who are posted here in UKP reviews have beend trafficked, it the same if you said that your fellow punters who are visiting them are all criminals, which mean something very serious.

Also AW will defenitely be very serious in taking action against the prosies who are beeing trafficked and advertised on their websites ...
« Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 09:23:10 am by adindas »

Offline monstar

Just be aware that we will need to be extremely careful to make the statement of a girl on AWs being trafficked ….
People who have evidence will need to report it immediately to Crime Stopper as it is a serious crime against humanity  ... 
   
Here is where to report it e.g NCA :
External Link/Members Only
If you have information about human trafficking or hold urgent information that requires an immediate response dial 999.

If you hold information that could lead to the identification, discovery and recovery of victims in the UK, you can also contact the charity Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

Many people are using the word of “trafficking” and “pimping” interchangeably. In general many people entering any industry through agent. The fooballers, bankers whitel collars workers, many of them entering industries through an agent. In the prossie world the agent might be a pimp.

Keep in mind if you said the girls on AW who are posted here in UKP reviews have beend trafficked, it the same if you said that your fellow punters who are visiting them are all criminals, which mean something very serious.

Also AW will defenitely be very serious in taking action against the prosies who are beeing trafficked and advertised on their websites ...

Excellent informative post adindas. :thumbsup:

I believe most, if not all, UKP members would not knowingly visit a trafficked girl and hope we would all report it to the appropriate authorities if we had information or at least post our suspicions on here and not visit again.

As you say there is confusion between the two terms 'trafficking' and 'pimping', however the former often includes involvement of the latter so extra vigilance is required.

Offline smiths

Just be aware that we will need to be extremely careful to make the statement of a girl on AWs being trafficked ….
People who have evidence will need to report it immediately to Crime Stopper as it is a serious crime against humanity  ... 
   
Here is where to report it e.g NCA :
External Link/Members Only
If you have information about human trafficking or hold urgent information that requires an immediate response dial 999.

If you hold information that could lead to the identification, discovery and recovery of victims in the UK, you can also contact the charity Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

Many people are using the word of “trafficking” and “pimping” interchangeably. In general many people entering any industry through agent. The fooballers, bankers whitel collars workers, many of them entering industries through an agent. In the prossie world the agent might be a pimp.

Keep in mind if you said the girls on AW who are posted here in UKP reviews have beend trafficked, it the same if you said that your fellow punters who are visiting them are all criminals, which mean something very serious.

Also AW will defenitely be very serious in taking action against the prosies who are beeing trafficked and advertised on their websites ...

Excellent point regarding using trafficking and pimping interchangeably. Many WGs choose to work for a pimp as is proved by ALL those that work for Agencies and Parlours/brothels. The lie on A/W is many are advertising as Indies when they arent, i assume pimps think this is a safer way of them not getting nicked rather than openly advertising a place as a brothel like Parlours do though even some of them have been operating for years, HOD and Debbies in London for example.

As you say it cant be generalised that ALL are trafficked, for me evidence by conviction is required. I am far from convinced that A/W give a shit though, in my observations over years they allow low lifes to operate, build up credits presumably then delete their profiles keeping the credits for themselves.

If i thought a WG was being coerced/forced i would ring Crimestoppers anonymously from a phone box, Harriet Harridans coercion law of 2010 has ensured i wouldnt give my details to the police in case they try to hassle me as to why i know about the WG, not a risk however small i would take.

Because punting isnt regulated all i have is my best judgement to use, i have NO idea about a WGs private business and literally ANY WG could have a pimp for all i would know. But pimp doesnt necessarily mean forced. Like it or not the fact is pimps have been involved in punting since WGs started being WGs, that wont be changing anytime soon in my view.

Offline Punting Valley

If you think about it, a barristers' clerk is essentially a 'pimp', but the barristers are not forced. :unknown: