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Offline snowbum

I have visited Thailand on quite a few occasions and have benefited from advice given to me by my brother, who has lived there for quite a few years and also from other tips I have gleaned from various sites.

I was visiting Chiang Mai in the north of Thailand with my girlfriend from Bangkok and two British friends.  As I was staying longer than them I decided to hire a bike.  I have ridden bikes for years both in the UK and in Thailand, so was not too concerned, but knew there were risks.

We were staying at the Chiang Mai Gate Hotel, which is fine, but a little way from the action, so the bike made things a lot easier, plus allowed trips out of town.

One evening, my friends wanted to go shopping at the night market, so got a taxi and I was to follow with my GF on the bike.
The traffic was quite congested, but I kept behind the taxi so we could meet up at the market.

A youngish Thai guy and his GF in a car decided he had to get ahead of me, despite not being able to go anywhere and the fact that I was not holding him up.
The traffic slowed right down and I overtook him on the inside so I could follow my friends.  This did not go down well, maybe it was a loss of face being beaten by a small motorbike, I’m not sure.  He responded by accelerating hard across my path cutting me up.  My arm caught his wing mirror which flipped back.

I wasn’t too fussed as it was all low speed, but he cut right across me forcing me to stop.
He jumped out of his car shouting in thai and squared up to me. 

The only problem was I was still on the bike, so a little restricted.  He was quite a small guy, probably normal by Thai standards, so I was not too concerned and shouted back at him, telling him that it was his fault.

He walked back to his car and I thought it was over.

I was wrong, he quickly returned wielding a large machete.

This was getting serious, my GF was screaming and my friends were nowhere to be seen.

I had two choices, I could either try to get the machete away from him or try to calm him down.

As I didn’t know how proficient he was with a machete and he seemed very upset, I decided to try to calm him down even though my Thai is minimal.

I changed my body language from confrontational to submissive, with my hands low with the palms raised and my face passive.
I showed him that the mirror pushed back with no damage and he seemed content with a few more insults and went back to his car and drove off.

At that point my friends arrived as the taxi driver had noticed I was not following and thought I had been knocked off the bike.

I realised then what a near miss I had had.  I felt lucky that no one, especially me ! had been hurt and how nasty it could have been.  Even if he had been caught, it wouldn't have helped me minus an arm or head!

I thought about reporting it to the Police, but the car didn't even have a registration number (why do they seem to allow this?) so ended up not bothering with all the hassle I could expect.

I have since spoken to ex pats who confirm the violence amongst Thais within their own groups and their ready use of weapons.

I have visited since and it has not put me off, just made me cautious.

There may be plenty of smiles around but you have to realise that it is what is behind the smile that really counts.

James999

  • Guest
Bikes and mopeds are a pain in the arse, when  a  car overtakes you it means they want you behind them, to retake them on the inside is just stupid and a "fuck you" to the driver, you got off lightly, in future stay out of the way of cars or get a taxi.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2014, 09:22:15 pm by James999 »

Offline snowbum

Bikes and mopeds are a pain in the arse, when  a  car overtakes you it means they want you behind them, to retake them on the inside is just stupid and a "fuck you" to the driver, you got off lightly, in future stay out of the way of cars or get a taxi.

Thank you for your comments which  provide a clear indication of your antagonistic view.

Most bikers have come across this sort of attitude from car drivers and is symptomatic of a deeper problem, based on 'I am more important than you and have more rights because I am in a car'    :thumbsdown:

James999

  • Guest
Thank you for your comments which  provide a clear indication of your antagonistic view.

I simply pointed out it was you that was in the wrong  :thumbsdown:

Simon S

  • Guest
I simply pointed out it was you that was in the wrong  :thumbsdown:
Have you ever ridden a bike in Thailand James ?

almc

  • Guest
Not so friendly Thailand?

That's a bit strong, population 70 million and you tarring them all?

Offline Jimmyredcab

Not so friendly Thailand?

That's a bit strong, population 70 million and you tarring them all?

The OP has not been heard of since November 16th ----------------------- after a couple of us put him firmly in his place, I suspect a previously banned member.     :hi:

Offline snowbum

The OP has not been heard of since November 16th ----------------------- after a couple of us put him firmly in his place, I suspect a previously banned member.     :hi:

I wondered who it was that generates all these conspiracy theories, now I know  :wackogirl:

pieman

  • Guest
james999 appears like the usual tosser that thinks they have the right of way even when they cant progress in traffic i have come across worldwide

sadly people think because they have paid more for their vehicle is has an automatic right to progress quicker

James999

  • Guest
Pieman, you come accross as if you have an inferiority complex (likely justified) now save up and buy a decent vehicle, and in the mean time stay out of the way  :hi:

LL

  • Guest
Pieman, you come accross as if you have an inferiority complex (likely justified) now save up and buy a decent vehicle, and in the mean time stay out of the way  :hi:
Do you carry a machete in your luxury saloon boot too? Per chance.

Offline snowbum

I heard an interesting report recently on how most people think that others think like them, even when by any objective assessment that is a long way from the truth.

There do seem to be some contributors that have a fairly warped sense of what is normal acceptable human behaviour  :bomb:

Offline Travel

Pieman, you come accross as if you have an inferiority complex (likely justified) now save up and buy a decent vehicle, and in the mean time stay out of the way  :hi:

Most bikers own a car, or in my case 3 cars and 3 bikes.

Filtering between lanes of traffic is legal. You see police bikers doing it.

Now save up and buy the Highway Code.

James999

  • Guest
in my case 3 cars and 3 bikes.

If you sold them all you could probably afford a deposit on a decent car  :sarcastic:

Offline Travel

If you sold them all you could probably afford a deposit on a decent car  :sarcastic:

Would you like to define "decent"?

If I sold them all (worth about £25k) I could buy a nice car. But it wouldnt be as nice as two of the 3 I have

Most motorbikes in the UK are sold as weekend toys, not commuting vehicles.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2015, 10:56:04 pm by Travel »