LIN at Ouya in Wakefield NOT A REVIEW

[wakefieldlad13]

Wished to post this here rather than the regional discussions as i have concerns the mamasan/owners are monitoring ukp, mods please move if you think appropriate

Like i say, this is not a review, but just before xmas day i visited ouya to see a girl i know and whilst there i laid eyes on this YOUNG girl, apparently 22 called Lin, and oh my, unfortunately im not in a position to visit this week so its just a heads up for you guys whom like the younger, but legal girls, had i not been booked in with an old favourite then i would have had a bash

[Iloveoral]

What concerns would you have if this was in discussion matey, there seems nothing that would out this girl from what you’ve said?
There’s a new girl working this week and she looks young?

[wakefieldlad13]

What concerns would you have if this was in discussion matey, there seems nothing that would out this girl from what you’ve said?
There’s a new girl working this week and she looks young?

It is true, yes i could have just said that there is a new girl working there this week who looks young, but as i was introduced to her, i wished to include her name in the post
The inclusion of her name would give our fellow members the opportunity to ask for said girl rather than enter a lucky dip in the booking process

My concerns may not be yours, but yet they are still concerns....which relates to outing myself to them. Basically, in my discussions with a Chinese SP, she suggested that a number of venues she had been working, inc Ouya, were actively seeking out reviews on a number of sites, this was enough for me and as we are supposed to be in the business of information sharing, i chose to share in a way that could offer some anonymity

I may have misunderstood something that Daviemac had said (i believe on the NE discussions thread) regarding the massage section being locked, which could have been a possibility which is why i suggested the mods move it if they thought it appropriate
However, if i understood correctly, the whole idea of having a locked massage thread was to allow us guys to to speak about the SP's and our antics with them with the hope that the locked thread may provide a modicum of protection/anonymity 

What actually bites at me though, is why you, a mod, felt the need to come across in a sarcastic manner, when just moving it would have been suffice, with maybe a comment saying no more than, it should be ok here...
Though i dont think it would have been the wrong thing to do for an experienced MOD to maybe have PM'd me to ask for a little bit more meat on the bones before dismissing my concerns.....because matey, sarcastic actions like this could quite easily lead to members NOT posting and not sharing info

[daviemac]

What actually bites at me though, is why you, a mod, felt the need to come across in a sarcastic manner, when just moving it would have been suffice, with maybe a comment saying no more than, it should be ok here...
Though i dont think it would have been the wrong thing to do for an experienced MOD to maybe have PM'd me to ask for a little bit more meat on the bones before dismissing my concerns.....because matey, sarcastic actions like this could quite easily lead to members NOT posting and not sharing info

Firstly suggesting PMs can get you banned, information should be for the benefit of all members.

A lot of areas have a general discussion thread pinned to the top of the massage review section, the NE has had one since 2013 and other areas have asked for the same quite recently, if you want one for this area post one here with the title of your choice and I'll move it to the massage section and pin it.

If you do start one post here that you have so I'll know.

[Upsndowns79]

Firstly suggesting PMs can get you banned, information should be for the benefit of all members.

A lot of areas have a general discussion thread pinned to the top of the massage review section, the NE has had one since 2013 and other areas have asked for the same quite recently, if you want one for this area post one here with the title of your choice and I'll move it to the massage section and pin it.

If you do start one post here that you have so I'll know.

I’ve started the thread named “Massage Section - General Discussion (Yorkshire)”

[daviemac]

I’ve started the thread named “Massage Section - General Discussion (Yorkshire)”

Pinned.

[Iloveoral]

What actually bites at me though, is why you, a mod, felt the need to come across in a sarcastic manner, when just moving it would have been suffice, with maybe a comment saying no more than, it should be ok here...

I wasn’t being sarcastic

Your post was very basic saying there’s a new girl that’s young, I couldn’t see why that alone would need hiding.
Why would I pm you rather that reply in a thread that you started, to discuss?

It wasn’t a review, so I moved it.

There’s now a pinned thread, as discussed with Davie.

[wakefieldlad13]

Firstly suggesting PMs can get you banned, information should be for the benefit of all members.

Where did i state that he should PM me?, my words were .... "Though i dont think it would have been the wrong thing to do for an experienced MOD to maybe have PM'd me"
Believing that an experienced MOD may have sought more information or clarification before making an executive decision

[daviemac]

Where did i state that he should PM me?, my words were .... "Though i dont think it would have been the wrong thing to do for an experienced MOD to maybe have PM'd me"
Believing that an experienced MOD may have sought more information or clarification before making an executive decision

You answered your own question, you suggested he PM you.

Both ILO and I were responding to a post report, ILO to the fact it wasn't a review and me to the suggestion in the report that the Yorks area had a pinned discussion thread in the massage section.

The fact is as there was no agreed booking it can't be a review so ILO moved it and, as a result of the report, you now have a thread where massage matters can be discussed away from general view.

 

[Jomoore]

The fact is as there was no agreed booking it can't be a review so ILO moved it and, as a result of the report, you now have a thread where massage matters can be discussed away from general view.

I think this is a helpful development.

[wakefieldlad13]

You answered your own question, you suggested he PM you.
 

We obviously disagree, which is a right we both are allowed to have

As senior MOD i would expect you to support your fellow MODS and I have no issue with that, but being a successful businessman, i would expect any person in a position of authority in any sort of organisation to seek clarification privately of any matter which may be questionable, but ILO believed it fit to move and again, i have no issue with that and indeed expected as much,  which is why i added my initial comment for a MOD to move if the need was there

My issue is with ILO comments which IMO where made in a sarcastic manner

IAH, all of this could have been avoided had the discussions thread been protected, but it isnt and im sure that the powers at be have there good reasons for this, however, DM, i will give my thanks to you for we now have a pinned thread which is protected and will be helpful

[scutty brown]

presumably this place?

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[wakefieldlad13]

presumably this place?

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  Helpful as always SB

[daviemac]

We obviously disagree, which is a right we both are allowed to have

As senior MOD i would expect you to support your fellow MODS and I have no issue with that, but being a successful businessman, i would expect any person in a position of authority in any sort of organisation to seek clarification privately of any matter which may be questionable, but ILO believed it fit to move and again, i have no issue with that and indeed expected as much,  which is why i added my initial comment for a MOD to move if the need was there

My issue is with ILO comments which IMO where made in a sarcastic manner

IAH, all of this could have been avoided had the discussions thread been protected, but it isnt and im sure that the powers at be have there good reasons for this, however, DM, i will give my thanks to you for we now have a pinned thread which is protected and will be helpful

Moderation issues are done on the open forum not in private. A thread being moved because there was no agreed booking is information that is useful to everyone so they don't make the same mistake.

As a 'successful businessman' I would have thought you would understand the importance of abiding by the rules, yet you seem to be conveniently forgetting that this whole situation is a result of your total disregard for the rules and posting in the review section when there was not an agreed booking.

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A new review thread can only be created once a service provider has agreed to a booking. A meeting does not need to occur, and money does not need to change hands. The only criterion is that she has accepted the initial booking. Members can post more than one review about an SP, but touting will result in a ban. Reviews are allowed up to 6 months ( for new members, this rule is currently relaxed to 12 months)after the event(positive or negative)
Only one sex worker can be the subject of a review, not a whole agency/establishment/ brothel. The exceptions are sex parties, duos, etc. and massage establishments where providers do not have names.
Reviews must contain a link, contact details or address (if publicised by the service provider).
The title of the review should only have SP Name - Location - (B&S / TOFTT / SCAM label if needed), and there are no abbreviations of establishments in the title of a review.

Had you reported a post and asked if there was a way to post general information about massages in the hidden massage section (something several members in other areas have done) you would have got a reply as in #3 on this thread and that is something that could have been done as a PM reply from me.

[wakefieldlad13]

As a 'successful businessman' I would have thought you would understand the importance of abiding by the rules, yet you seem to be conveniently forgetting that this whole situation is a result of your total disregard for the rules and posting in the review section when there was not an agreed booking.

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OMG, explanations were made at the very start of my post along with the statement asking MODS to move if they felt appropriate "due to the rules" with absolute no attempt to disregard any rule
And as a successful businessman, where rules are concerned, i understand that in many circumstances including H&S, grey areas can often be found and these areas can often come to light totally innocently, often by someone trying to do the right thing, in many of these cases, a good and competent employer would take advantage of the knowledge and put something in place to be of help, which was done by creating a protected thread, as opposed to ridiculing the the person or persons whom acted innocently

There are literally dozens of members in our area like myself who punt often and consistently contribute on a regular basis because that is what the site is about and the more you contribute the more likely you are to stumble across something you wish to post about and do it in a way you think best, when its grey, or potentially a mistake, as members we ask for the MODS to clarify or to put it right, many MODS and forum helpers do this without the need to reply sarcastically

I do not think you wear rose tinted glasses so i would have thought you could see the sarcasm in ILO reply....
MODS and helpers are there to help not to ridicule but If you think otherwise and dont want my contributions or indeed the contributions of others whom post innocently, then just say so and i or anyone else in the same situation can leave

[Iloveoral]

What concerns would you have if this was in discussion matey,

there seems nothing that would out this girl from what you’ve said?

There’s a new girl working this week and she looks young?

Help me out because I’m struggling here please, which bit did you consider sarcastic?
I’m genuinely struggling to see why you are throwing a tantrum thinking you’ve been ridiculed?

Im also don’t see the relevance of you explaining yourself to be a successful business man on a paid for sex review site?

[daviemac]

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OMG, explanations were made at the very start of my post along with the statement asking MODS to move if they felt appropriate "due to the rules" with absolute no attempt to disregard any rule

It makes it even worse if you were aware of the rules but posted it anyway then expected someone to move it.

I suppose as a 'successful businessman' you aren't used to people telling you are wrong, however in this case you are, you should have asked before you posted.

I have to admit I am at a loss as to why you want to push this into something it doesn't need to be, accept the fact you should have asked where to post it and had you done so this thread would not be here, instead a thread would have been pinned to the massage section as has now been done.

[Leebo32]

From a neutrals point I don't think there is anything sarcastic in that original mods reply. In fact he was simply being helpful and quite rightly stating a fact to help you out so accept the advice with some thanks

[wakefieldlad13]

 

From a neutrals point I don't think there is anything sarcastic in that original mods reply. In fact he was simply being helpful and quite rightly stating a fact to help you out so accept the advice with some thanks

[rajaindian]

she is in sheffield now

[peter53]

she is in sheffield now

where in Sheffield.  Link?

[rajaindian]

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she is langsett roads s6 2up

[Upsndowns79]

External Link/Members Only
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she is langsett roads s6 2up

Thanks for sharing.

You said in your review in Wakefield you’d seen her before for full service in Sheffield. What was she like on that occasion? Are the pictures also a true likeness of her as I think she looks really hot and potentially decent value if you take the shit massage away. (accepting that extras be put on top for DFK OWO etc)

[chandlerhandler]

External Link/Members Only
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she is langsett roads s6 2up

interesting, one agency ad & one indie both with stolen photos

[Upsndowns79]

interesting, one agency ad & one indie both with stolen photos

All a bit weird, those photos on agency advert have changed since my 1st click (they were identical to 1st ad). Different telephone numbers and both saying Bradfield near Hillsborough but it’s fucking miles away.

If the photos are fake how does the OP (rajaindian) know it’s her?

[Iloveoral]

This isn’t going to end well is it with you

[wakefieldlad13]

This isn’t going to end well is it with you

Whatever Trevor....

Im sure you know what the problem was with your original response
You went on to state that you were not being sarcastic but yet your initial response was worded in your own typical sarcastic way which is something you do and have done for quite sometime when you get on your high horse about something
Maybe you dont know you are doing it, but then again maybe you do

As for myself
I review and often, unlike some
I post and often, unlike some
I offer my help where i can to members new and old
I endeavour to treat other members, their reviews and their posts where possible with respect and i certainly do not go out of my way to cause or insight aggravation, unless otherwise provoked, unlike some
And if i have ever broken any rules then no MOD as ever spoken to me about it

Doing whatever you want to do regarding my dislike of your original comments will not alter the fact that it was indeed your own manner which initially created this bad feeling
Others who have been reading this may wonder what i am going on about but all they have to do is read a number of similar posts from yourself which should highlight what as irked me

You will do whatever you want, if for no other reason than for the fact that i will not bend to your will, if you want to take a sarcastic attitude then maybe you should be willing to accept the same in return

 

[scutty brown]

.......... will not alter the fact that it was indeed your own manner which initially created this bad feeling
Others who have been reading this may wonder what i am going on about but all they have to do is read a number of similar posts from yourself which should highlight what as irked me ...........

Well.....from where I'm sitting I can't make sense of what you're claiming.
If you think ILO was being sarcastic to you there must be something lacking in your English language skills.
All he did was ask you for an explanation

And before you accuse me of poking my nose in

Others who have been reading this may wonder what i am going on about but all they have to do is read a number of similar posts from yourself which should highlight what as irked me

reads like an invitation.
And I've read many of his posts and still don't understand WTF you mean

[Iloveoral]

Whatever Trevor....

Im sure you know what the problem was with your original response
You went on to state that you were not being sarcastic but yet your initial response was worded in your own typical sarcastic way which is something you do and have done for quite sometime when you get on your high horse about something
Maybe you dont know you are doing it, but then again maybe you do

As for myself
I review and often, unlike some
I post and often, unlike some
I offer my help where i can to members new and old
I endeavour to treat other members, their reviews and their posts where possible with respect and i certainly do not go out of my way to cause or insight aggravation, unless otherwise provoked, unlike some
And if i have ever broken any rules then no MOD as ever spoken to me about it

Doing whatever you want to do regarding my dislike of your original comments will not alter the fact that it was indeed your own manner which initially created this bad feeling
Others who have been reading this may wonder what i am going on about but all they have to do is read a number of similar posts from yourself which should highlight what as irked me

You will do whatever you want, if for no other reason than for the fact that i will not bend to your will, if you want to take a sarcastic attitude then maybe you should be willing to accept the same in return

 

To be honest, I did ask you to explain, I wasn’t being sarcastic and had no intention of being sarcastic.


You’re coming across as having a real attitude, if you have or not I don’t know, maybe we are both misreading each other, your comment about being a successful businessman had no relevance to the discussion and that came across as arrogant, showing off, whatever it didn’t help.

Another mod has commented on this thread about you, clearly it’s not just me that thought this.

I’d suggest leaving it there before you get banned.

Your contribution and reviews to the site are greatly appreciated, you go further than most members we have, but kicking off against moderators won’t be tolerated.

Regardless of how you think we / me are running this site, we do to the best we can offer to keep this site online, right or wrong we moderate, sometimes you can’t please everyone.

Had you not posted this thread initially we wouldn’t be having this conversation would we?

[rajaindian]

All a bit weird, those photos on agency advert have changed since my 1st click (they were identical to 1st ad). Different telephone numbers and both saying Bradfield near Hillsborough but it’s fucking miles away.

If the photos are fake how does the OP (rajaindian) know it’s her?

I have her personal no. when i visited her in wakefield. asked her to text me when she is in sheffield. she text me the address.

[Upsndowns79]

I have her personal no. when i visited her in wakefield. asked her to text me when she is in sheffield. she text me the address.

Thank you, can you provide details of your experience of your full service experience in Sheffield please and just confirm she’s not the girl in any of the pictures.

Thanks

[akauya]

Doing whatever you want to do regarding my dislike of your original comments will not alter the fact that it was indeed your own manner which initially created this bad feeling
Others who have been reading this may wonder what i am going on about but all they have to do is read a number of similar posts from yourself which should highlight what as irked me

...er I am. I read ILO's comments three times now and for the life of me I can't see where he was being sarcastic as you claim. 

[catweazle]

I read ILO's comments three times now and for the life of me I can't see where he was being sarcastic as you claim. 

Nor me.

[chandlerhandler]

shall we let this rest now? no point keeping bumping it back to the top, the OP & Mod have both said their points now & moved on