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Offline greychap

The price for half an hour 20 years ago was £60 and that was with out owo or any kissing, the price has come down so much by some escorts or stayed the same. If this industry went up with in price like wages  and other companies prices the half an hour service would be at least £100 so when you think about it the £60 is cheap for what you get.

Yes the girls do see men that are ugly smelly and old or rude and nasty at times no doubt but we have to remember the hourly fee for accountants, locksmiths, marketing consultants can be the same for some escorts in the industry and they are not risking catching sexual infections some that could be deadly. It is a risk doing owo, cim and sex if the condom breaks which does happen. So if you weigh up the risks and potential dangerous punters that could attack the escorts plus the shame if friends and family find out the money that some charge is not that much, its just a lot coming from the punters wage packet.
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... and old  ...
What has that got to do with anything?

Some WGs do have an upper age limit, but it's rare. A lot have told me they prefer older, and even old men as they get treated better.

Offline Quesadilla

The price for half an hour 20 years ago was £60 and that was with out owo or any kissing, the price has come down so much by some escorts or stayed the same. If this industry went up with in price like wages  and other companies prices the half an hour service would be at least £100 so when you think about it the £60 is cheap for what you get.

Yes the girls do see men that are ugly smelly and old or rude and nasty at times no doubt but we have to remember the hourly fee for accountants, locksmiths, marketing consultants can be the same for some escorts in the industry and they are not risking catching sexual infections some that could be deadly. It is a risk doing owo, cim and sex if the condom breaks which does happen. So if you weigh up the risks and potential dangerous punters that could attack the escorts plus the shame if friends and family find out the money that some charge is not that much, its just a lot coming from the punters wage packet.
I have friends who are locksmiths and even plumbers who are struggling - their hourly rate might be good as typically they are dealing with emergencies so customers have no choice but to cough up but they don't have steady work and can go days without a job easily. 

Also to be a skilled tradesman takes a lot of time, training and dedication whereas to spread your legs takes no education or training at all. 

And as for risks, there are risks, say, as a firefighter and they only get paid around £15 ph!  There's a good analogy of course as most firefighters spend half of their time on their backs in between shouts, but again it takes a lot of training and dedication as well as coping with those risks. 

But even a WG who chooses to see just one punter for 1 hour per day can earn more than a fireman which frankly I feel is crazy.  This is why in real terms pay has not gone up like other areas - competition has increased but ultimately WG's still make silly money for what they do regardless of the risks - when compared to other jobs.

I know in this thread MrSmiley had a bad experience with a WG who obviously wasn't enjoying the job - in which case I'd say - get out and do something else.  But I have met at least some WG's who've told me they've always been nympho's and used to fuck complete strangers for fun until they realised what an easy buck it is.

So I don't think it's cheap for what you get - it's a great experience but it's just an hour or two of fun which is quickly gone.  My favourite civvy hobbies are skiing and scuba-diving which are classed as expensive but a decent ski / scuba holiday doesn't cost anything like £150ph!
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Offline James999

potential dangerous punters that could attack the escorts

That's very rare, most pro$$ies that suffer violence seem to receive it from Pimps / partners / other pro$$ies  :thumbsdown:

Offline Quesadilla

That's very rare, most pro$$ies that suffer violence seem to receive it from Pimps / partners / other pro$$ies  :thumbsdown:
I had a cancellation from a WG who had just been attacked by a punter - or rather a thief posing as a punter, figured she'd have lots of cash on her after a long day on her back turned out that was the day she was moving flat and he was her first trick of the day so no cash and nothing to nick. He didn't like that very much having built up the courage was determined to get away with something and so tried to nick her iPhone. 

She ended up with multiple defensive wounds and a deep stab wound (seen the scars since - nasty!) but fortunately nowhere vital.  Frankly she was very lucky. 

It may be rare but it is a risk. Pro$$ies could easily be carrying £500 - £1k in cash and there are lots of desperate people out there sadly.
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Offline James999

I had a cancellation from a WG who had just been attacked by a punter - or rather a thief posing as a punter, figured she'd have lots of cash on her after a long day on her back turned out that was the day she was moving flat and he was her first trick of the day so no cash and nothing to nick. He didn't like that very much having built up the courage was determined to get away with something and so tried to nick her iPhone. 
She ended up with multiple defensive wounds and a deep stab wound (seen the scars since - nasty!) but fortunately nowhere vital.  Frankly she was very lucky. 

That may very well be what she told you, but I doubt there is a crime report to the police stating that, more likely a dispute with her pimp / partner, still not right but more realistic.

Offline ralhar

hookers get robbed all the time... they are very easy targets...

not sure i agree with "just have to spread their legs" though...

to be successful and get a steady stream of decent well paying punters takes a certain kind of personality same as any job or profession... if they dont have that then they end up and the wrong end of the market struggling for business, having to work for less and having to put up with or deal with bad punters...

same as any business... do it right and it works well... but get it wrong and its a nightmare...


hookers get robbed all the time... they are very easy targets...

not sure i agree with "just have to spread their legs" though...

to be successful and get a steady stream of decent well paying punters takes a certain kind of personality same as any job or profession... if they dont have that then they end up and the wrong end of the market struggling for business, having to work for less and having to put up with or deal with bad punters...

same as any business... do it right and it works well... but get it wrong and its a nightmare...

condoms, a phone (with which you also take your first pics) and free adultwork. start with just outcalls or a cheap hotel. low rates to start so you get feedback. dont be a cunt to the punters. It isnt as hard as you think.

Offline greychap

Girls that offer incalls from there own place it is a risk. it is a stranger turning up with fake name, pay as you go mobile and no trace so any nut jobs can attack and rob the girls it does go on, you hear about it off girls, newspapers and other forums with warnings there is a lot of nutters out there. One escort was murdered offering incalls in London I remember reading about it in a newspaper.

Outcalls seem to have less trouble as your going to the punters place so the girl or agency have your details address and usually a landline.

Lots of jobs can have danger linked to it, escorts have the dangers of nutters beating them, robbing them stalking them, and more chance of catching STD's so I would say it is a job with a lot of risks and how many family members would be ok with them doing that so a lot of them lead 2 lives. Don't sound that easy to me.

And another thing you might get self employed builders, plumbers quiet not getting many jobs per week or month and being quiet but don't think every escort is busy all the time no doubt there is a lot struggling to get work, look at how many girls are signed on with how many agencies in London and im told sometimes they might only get one job every couple of months.
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Offline Quesadilla

That may very well be what she told you, but I doubt there is a crime report to the police stating that, more likely a dispute with her pimp / partner, still not right but more realistic.
That is indeed what she told me and as a regular I trust her enough to believe her. I certainly have no good reason to believe otherwise.

What makes an armchair punter like you an expert?
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Offline vt

That is indeed what she told me and as a regular I trust her enough to believe her. I certainly have no good reason to believe otherwise.

What makes an armchair punter like you an expert?

James is talking about probabilities...it is statistically more probable to be the victim of violent assault by a perpetrator either acquainted to the victim (ie. pimp) or a domestic situation (ie. husband/BF), than a complete stranger (ie. thief posing as punter). A random violent street mugging is even less likely.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/feb/13/violent-sexual-crime-statistics-england-wales-2013

When you add in the under-reporting of crime where the perpetrator is known to the victim, you might agree that James has a valid point.

Offline Quesadilla

James is talking about probabilities...it is statistically more probable to be the victim of violent assault by a perpetrator either acquainted to the victim (ie. pimp) or a domestic situation (ie. husband/BF), than a complete stranger (ie. thief posing as punter). A random violent street mugging is even less likely.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/feb/13/violent-sexual-crime-statistics-england-wales-2013

When you add in the under-reporting of crime where the perpetrator is known to the victim, you might agree that James has a valid point.
I don't think we were talking stats, we were talking about a WG I know.

There's nothing in that report specific to crimes against prostitutes and it seems pretty crazy to me that a pimp or partner benefitting from a WG would ever take a knife to them and risk their income.  So no I don't agree James has a valid point.

If anyone has any actual stats on violent crimes against prostitutes that demonstrate this point I would change my view, as it is I can only go on experience.
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Offline socks

OP in my view you should not feel guilty one little bit. No one* has no choice but to become a prostitute, anymore than any of us of normal means have a choice about either choosing to find some sort of job, or business to support ourselves and our family.

I get fucking pissed off in my work at times and have to do stuff that isn't nice, is depressing, compromises my own values etc, all the time. Unless you internalise all the twisted morality about sex, paying for sex, the utter fallacy perpetrated about this business that is lazily trotted out by the huge numbers of people in positions of power and influence (and not), then of course you're gonna beat yourself up in the situation you've described. If however you see it as a career choice she has freely made and you are simply availing yourself of services that she offers and agreed to, then tough shit on her if she didn't enjoy it. I'd say she is the one who should feel guilty, she's taken your money yet delivered the service in such a way as to devalue what you were provided with. If she can't do the job, she shouldn't do it. If she's struggling with it then she should deal with it elsewhere and not by selfishly transferring the problem to her customer.

*Disclaimer! unless they are genuinely coerced and this does happen. In which case you should end the punt and if you're community spirited report it to the police, an agency who could help, crimestoppers or whoever, there's probably plenty of other choices. :hi:




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