Sugar Daddies

[GlasgowGirl]

I did not know that you were referring to the older, successful and sophisticated women, in their forties, who are looking for men who have achieved a comparable or superior level of success.I was referring to the concept of sugar daddy - sugar baby relationships in general, mainly the younger woman - older man scenario.

As I said, sex for money doesn't really phrase me, but faking an emotional connection or (shock...) a whole fecking marriage for money makes me  a little.

[Matium]

I suppose older and financially successful women in the their forties could be referred to as "Sugar Mummies".

But there is a big difference, it is common to see men in their 40s and 50s with young women whereas successful women of that age would regard the whole idea of having a young man, a "toy boy" with distaste.

It could be distasteful because they find the idea of being with a man, young enough to be their son, abhorrent or it could be because women age faster than men and women in their forties would cringe at the idea of letting young men see their bodies.

From what I've seen, successful women prefer to date men of their own age.

[GlasgowGirl]

But Matium, what we really want to know is did you get to have sex with any of the younger non "successful" women without paying them?

[Matium]

I already said that in my first post, at the start.

[smiths]

I don't think "it's just prostitution".  Obviously there is the overtone of paid sex but a girl on the sugar daddy site gets to pick and choose who her  sugar daddy is unlike escorts, parlour girls, etc.  Maybe the older woman is looking for romance or a LTR but with the condition that the guy must be wealthy and generous to the right person.

The womens intent is to get money and gifts, if they have half a brain cell they would know the man wants something sexual in return. If they do anything sexual in exchange for these gifts or money they are a prostitute.

Personally i cant stand people who arent open and honest about being a prostitute. Its the same with some Masseurs who offer a HE or more, they are prostitutes but wish to pretend they arent. Give me an honest prostitute who is prepared to say thats what she is any day over these type of women. I view them as just gold diggers and have far more respect for a good WG. I also view the men if they are paying more than they would to a WG as fucking stupid idiots, but of course its their business how they wish to spend their money.

[smiths]

Carmen -  . wow!

I agree with some guys on here that "high class" is just a marketing ploy, one of many used by many different industries and I guess fair play to the marketing aspect, but being high class is in no way representative of quality of the sex in the escort market. 

But..... I also think that men who describe themselves as "high class" by exaggerating their wealth and generosity and boasting etc, are 99% of the time cheapskate idiots.

Most normal people just get on with it.

Spot on, good post.

[1234]

Lex, maybe I'm just an old romantic  , but in my book a relationship is about genuine love and attraction of the person, not what they can give you materially.

 

All women think of just that.

Seen any lush ladies with poor men, or men with very low paying wages?

It's a fact of life and cannot be denied.

Women, as far as I am concerned, are literally, a different species to men.

[philuk1uk]

All women think of just that.

Seen any lush ladies with poor men, or men with very low paying wages?

It's a fact of life and cannot be denied.

Women, as far as I am concerned, are literally, a different species to men.

I wouldn't disagree with you.  I know a very successful businessman, he is around 50, is short, fat and balding, his bank balance I would assume from the success of his company is well into the millions, he never fails to have a tall leggy blonde in her early 20's with him, usually for a month or two at a time before dumping them and finding another similar model.  If he was living on a council estate on the dole there is no way those girls would be anywhere near him, no matter how charming or romantic he may be.

[softlad]

If he was living on a council estate on the dole there is no way those girls would be anywhere near him, no matter how charming or romantic he may be.

Are you telling me that this bint doesn't love (Billionaire) Bernie for his personality ? 

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[Miss A Squires]

Are you telling me that this bint doesn't love (Billionaire) Bernie for his personality ? 

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I love Bernie Ecclestone!

But only cause I'd want to spend my year following F1 round the world!!

[finn5555]

I love Bernie Ecclestone!

But only cause I'd want to spend my year following F1 round the world!!

Would you still charge him your hourly rate 

[softlad]

I love Bernie Ecclestone!

I'd like to love his daughter Tamara

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You like F1 Miss Squires ?
You could be my dream date.......

[philuk1uk]

I love Bernie Ecclestone!

But only cause I'd want to spend my year following F1 round the world!!

Point proven! 

[Tony Montana]

I'd like to love his daughter Tamara

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You like F1 Miss Squires ?
You could be my dream date.......

Mine too... I'm just watching Free Practice 2 as I type 

I like Tamara, but I doubt she could afford me. 

[philuk1uk]

You like F1 Miss Squires ?
You could be my dream date.......

I've said for a long time if I could find a woman that loves rugby, can iron, can clean and can ride cock with equal skill, then i'll be down Argos buying a ring as quickly as possible!! 

[1234]

Are you telling me that this bint doesn't love (Billionaire) Bernie for his personality ? 

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Honestly these 'rich' twats are summit  (burning with jealousy  )

 

Do a Charlie Sheen and have a few around your arm. Play one off against the other, then introduce a female, sexy, bitchy friend for a week or two...... keep the bints on their toes.....

Make them work for it...........

[softlad]

then i'll be down Argos buying a ring as quickly as possible!! 

No need to push the boat out Phil......

[1234]

I've said for a long time if I could find a woman that loves rugby, can iron, can clean and can ride cock with equal skill, then i'll be down Argos buying a ring as quickly as possible!! 

 

Have you checked poundland? 

[Matium]

The 85 year old Hugh Hefner with a 25 year old girlfriend.

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I wonder what she sees in the old billionaire?

[Tony Montana]

Or 51 year old Doug Hutchinson and 16 year old Courtney Stodden

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[GlasgowGirl]

All women think of just that.

Seen any lush ladies with poor men, or men with very low paying wages?

It's a fact of life and cannot be denied.

Women, as far as I am concerned, are literally, a different species to men.

I honestly don't think like that, and last time I checked I'm a woman in my 20s  2 of the 3 relationships I've had in my life have been on minimum wage. Neither lived off me either.

But yes, with the huge age gaps mentioned, I do think it probably is about money. I've always dated 4 to 9 years older than myself. Any bigger than a 20-year age gap and I think there would be problems. But that's just my personal view.

[Aitch1944]

I honestly don't think like that, and last time I checked I'm a woman in my 20s  2 of the 3 relationships I've had in my life have been on minimum wage. Neither lived off me either.

But yes, with the huge age gaps mentioned, I do think it probably is about money. I've always dated 4 to 9 years older than myself. Any bigger than a 20-year age gap and I think there would be problems. But that's just my personal view.

Friends of mine got together when he was 50 and she was 23. I was one of those who said at the time "it will never last" 
As he had been "taken to the cleaners" by his first wife in his divorce, I don't think financial considerations featured AT ALL.
I'm pleased to be able to admit (for once) that my opinion was WRONG, as they've now been together almost 30 years and have celebrated their "Silver Wedding" 
 

[philboi]

I really am enjoying myself on the Sugar Daddies site.

As far as I can see, there are three different types of women on Sugar Daddies - the prostitutes, young women, in their twenties, who are in a needy financial situation and older, successful and sophisticated women, in their forties, who are looking for men who have achieved a comparable or superior level of success.

I avoid the prostitutes and dump the young women when they start asking for Prada handbags - however, it's the older women there who excite me and who are well worth the chase!

It really is a lot of fun.

Found this thread about sugar daddies very interesting.
Matium seemed to be enjoying it

I was wondering with all the different sugar daddy arrangement if somewhere there's a place for this in the world of punting.. ie, more like a regular arrangement?

Or is this a totally fluffy thought?

[AnthG]

I was wondering with all the different sugar daddy arrangement if somewhere there's a place for this in the world of punting.. ie, more like a regular arrangement?

Or is this a totally fluffy thought?

The problem with Sugar Daddying is the girls want an unrealistic amount of money. I am not sure how they obtain the figures they think they will get but it must be en-route to la-la land.

[LL]

I was wondering with all the different sugar daddy arrangement if somewhere there's a place for this in the world of punting.. ie, more like a regular arrangement?

I once found a profile for a girl on AW where she was advertising a monthly rate rather than hourly / overnight.  The premise was that the person who booked her for a month could, during that month, call her whenever you were up for it and she'd invite them over / come to them.  Of course there were certain rules in place about working hours, number of visits per week, etc.  However, I can't seem to find it any more - sorry!  Maybe this idea could be suggested to the AW site itself - more girls might be open to the idea if it's something they can just select to have on their profile via a few button clicks.

[Palace321]

The problem with Sugar Daddying is the girls want an unrealistic amount of money. I am not sure how they obtain the figures they think they will get but it must be en-route to la-la land.

+ 1. Also what's to stop them having more than one sugar daddy and messing you around if you don't pay as much as the other guy/guys? 

[smiths]

I once found a profile for a girl on AW where she was advertising a monthly rate rather than hourly / overnight.  The premise was that the person who booked her for a month could, during that month, call her whenever you were up for it and she'd invite them over / come to them.  Of course there were certain rules in place about working hours, number of visits per week, etc.  However, I can't seem to find it any more - sorry!  Maybe this idea could be suggested to the AW site itself - more girls might be open to the idea if it's something they can just select to have on their profile via a few button clicks.

For that kind of arrangement trust will be required of course. Even then if a WG wants the money upfront however much discounted for say a months agreed worth of punts how does the punter know she wont fuck him over for definite. She could even die which obviously would be awful but the punter has already paid upfront so wont be getting any money back.

Too many downsides for my liking UNLESS the deal was PAYG, in that case i might be interested in a month-by-month arrangement for a while with a proven regular. I always get bored though but it might work for me for a few months. Of course the WG would then have to trust me to turn up as agreed. For me to agree a set number of punts the WG would have to be very good though, and maintain the level of service every time.

[AnthG]

The way people are talking about sugar daddys is it is simply a way to get a bunch of bookings by paying for a lump sum in advance.

This is not the way I see it, and what I think the role is, if I were to be a sugar daddy I would want to spend pretty much close to 24/7 with the girl. Her move in with me basically.

The money they want for this job I cannot imagine they are doing this as just a pay for some 1hr long bookings in advance as it makes it even more of a rip off.

I genuinely feel £500 per month for a 24/7 sugar babe is reasonable. I mean £500 is a lot of money. The problem is prostitutes seem to have this inflated ego of their times worth and a deflated ego of the value of the pound.

If I walked into my local job centre and said to any girl sitting their claiming her fortnightly's you can have £500 per month for a job of effectively nothing but putting up with me. I think many would grab it with two hands.

[Dani]

This is not the way I see it, and what I think the role is, if I were to be a sugar daddy I would want to spend pretty much close to 24/7 with the girl. Her move in with me basically.

The money they want for this job I cannot imagine they are doing this as just a pay for some 1hr long bookings in advance as it makes it even more of a rip off.

I genuinely feel £500 per month for a 24/7 sugar babe is reasonable. I mean £500 is a lot of money. The problem is prostitutes seem to have this inflated ego of their times worth and a deflated ego of the value of the pound.

If I walked into my local job centre and said to any girl sitting their claiming her fortnightly's you can have £500 per month for a job of effectively nothing but putting up with me. I think many would grab it with two hands.

Anth I doubt any girl/woman would take you up on the offer of 24/7 for a month for £500 as that would mean around a £0.69 an hour to have sex whenever you wanted it?  How does she know you are not going to pop Viagra and want it half a dozen times a day for hours at a time. 

Even at 4 hours a day for 30 days its only £4.17 an hour to have sex with a man she is probably not attracted to at all.  Working it out like that it makes you look a bit silly to think any woman would have sex for that amount


Also a Sugar Daddy pays a set amount a month to ensure that the kept woman is available as and when he wants and does not have sex with other men.  It normally works out at least one overnight a week sometimes two plus a few hours early mornings before work so the fees they pay are actually much lower than a prossie would charge

[Devil Man]

The way people are talking about sugar daddys is it is simply a way to get a bunch of bookings by paying for a lump sum in advance.

This is not the way I see it, and what I think the role is, if I were to be a sugar daddy I would want to spend pretty much close to 24/7 with the girl. Her move in with me basically.

The money they want for this job I cannot imagine they are doing this as just a pay for some 1hr long bookings in advance as it makes it even more of a rip off.

I genuinely feel £500 per month for a 24/7 sugar babe is reasonable. I mean £500 is a lot of money. The problem is prostitutes seem to have this inflated ego of their times worth and a deflated ego of the value of the pound.

If I walked into my local job centre and said to any girl sitting their claiming her fortnightly's you can have £500 per month for a job of effectively nothing but putting up with me. I think many would grab it with two hands.

Oh man, I love some of the comedy posts on this forum 

I'm glad I joined this forum. Some of you guys have a great sense of humour! 

[TheDoctor]

The way people are talking about sugar daddys is it is simply a way to get a bunch of bookings by paying for a lump sum in advance.

This is not the way I see it, and what I think the role is, if I were to be a sugar daddy I would want to spend pretty much close to 24/7 with the girl. Her move in with me basically.

The money they want for this job I cannot imagine they are doing this as just a pay for some 1hr long bookings in advance as it makes it even more of a rip off.

I genuinely feel £500 per month for a 24/7 sugar babe is reasonable. I mean £500 is a lot of money. The problem is prostitutes seem to have this inflated ego of their times worth and a deflated ego of the value of the pound.

If I walked into my local job centre and said to any girl sitting their claiming her fortnightly's you can have £500 per month for a job of effectively nothing but putting up with me. I think many would grab it with two hands.

How it works is you agree to meet x times a month. Usually 4 or so. When she comes round, it's not like an escort booking - she stays as long as you want her to. However normally it would involve theatre / opera / ballet / dinner / cinema whatever and sex at the end of the evening. She isn't at your beck and call and normally you 'do diaries' a week in advance and agree a day to meet. Some SDs expect exclusivity, some don't.

How do I know all this? I've done it a few times. If you pick the sugar babe correctly it works very well. Not had a failure yet.

[smiths]

Anth I doubt any girl/woman would take you up on the offer of 24/7 for a month for £500 as that would mean around a £0.69 an hour to have sex whenever you wanted it?  How does she know you are not going to pop Viagra and want it half a dozen times a day for hours at a time. 

Even at 4 hours a day for 30 days its only £4.17 an hour to have sex with a man she is probably not attracted to at all.  Working it out like that it makes you look a bit silly to think any woman would have sex for that amount


Also a Sugar Daddy pays a set amount a month to ensure that the kept woman is available as and when he wants and does not have sex with other men.  It normally works out at least one overnight a week sometimes two plus a few hours early mornings before work so the fees they pay are actually much lower than a prossie would charge

The sugar daddy has no way of knowing if the WG is shagging others of course for definite.

I would also say these women are WGs, even if they are only punting with one man at a time. Its just a different way of being a WG to advertising for all-comers.

[AnthG]

Working it out like that it makes you look a bit silly to think any woman would have sex for that amount

I am working it out by different standards. Basically £500 per month is my entire amount of non essential to live on cash I have. Its the whole lot. I am effectively giving the girl my all.

I am not irregular I don't think by having this amount. Most men will have that amount to give. A few very rare and select high class men will have more spare cash but most men this is the amount.

So if a girl wants to be a sugar babe this really is the realistic amount for a job.

If I was doing a job basically cleaning out Portaloos for a living I would want literally £100 per hour to do it as its pretty dirty, vile and disgusting a job. But try asking the council for that, they will laugh in your face and say you are getting the minimum wage.

There is wage you may want, and a wage you can expect to get. And if a girl wants to be a sugar babe, and this is the amount most men have. Its her choice of not being one, or accepting the rate people have.

But a girl saying I want £1k plus per month or whatever is all great but I don't think she will find many men with the cash to do it.

[smiths]

How it works is you agree to meet x times a month. Usually 4 or so. When she comes round, it's not like an escort booking - she stays as long as you want her to. However normally it would involve theatre / opera / ballet / dinner / cinema whatever and sex at the end of the evening. She isn't at your beck and call and normally you 'do diaries' a week in advance and agree a day to meet. Some SDs expect exclusivity, some don't.

How do I know all this? I've done it a few times. If you pick the sugar babe correctly it works very well. Not had a failure yet.

Exclusivity can never be guaranteed though, the WG can easily lie.

Did you pay upfront say monthly or only the agreed rate at each meet? And if you dont mind saying what was the rate you paid so i can compare it with regular punting.

[TheDoctor]

Exclusivity can never be guaranteed though, the WG can easily lie.

Did you pay upfront say monthly or only the agreed rate at each meet? And if you dont mind saying what was the rate you paid so i can compare it with regular punting.

Hey, there's no way of policing it obviously, but you try and select someone who comes over as having a value structure like your own. Paying monthly in advance direct to the bank account is the norm - usually after weekly payments then fortnightly as trust is built up.

As for how much, I'll keep it to myself, but I will say the norm is £1k->£1.5k pm. And yes, it is a buyers' market - many girls want a SD, many guys pretend they have the dosh, but few who actually do have the money.

[smiths]

Hey, there's no way of policing it obviously, but you try and select someone who comes over as having a value structure like your own. Paying monthly in advance direct to the bank account is the norm - usually after weekly payments then fortnightly as trust is built up.

As for how much, I'll keep it to myself, but I will say the norm is £1k->£1.5k pm. And yes, it is a buyers' market - many girls want a SD, many guys pretend they have the dosh, but few who actually do have the money.

Thanks, i appreciate this reply and info

[finn5555]

How it works is you agree to meet x times a month. Usually 4 or so. When she comes round, it's not like an escort booking - she stays as long as you want her to. However normally it would involve theatre / opera / ballet / dinner / cinema whatever and sex at the end of the evening. She isn't at your beck and call and normally you 'do diaries' a week in advance and agree a day to meet. Some SDs expect exclusivity, some don't.

How do I know all this? I've done it a few times. If you pick the sugar babe correctly it works very well. Not had a failure yet.

Can see the appeal but trust is the key factor or the ability to turn a blind eye.....
Not sure it's my cup of tea to be honest as I enjoy the variety if I wanted a regular shag I would take a mistress or get a girlfriend neither of which appeal to me at this present time 

[Devil Man]

I am working it out by different standards. Basically £500 per month is my entire amount of non essential to live on cash I have. Its the whole lot. I am effectively giving the girl my all.

I am not irregular I don't think by having this amount. Most men will have that amount to give. A few very rare and select high class men will have more spare cash but most men this is the amount.

So if a girl wants to be a sugar babe this really is the realistic amount for a job.

If I was doing a job basically cleaning out Portaloos for a living I would want literally £100 per hour to do it as its pretty dirty, vile and disgusting a job. But try asking the council for that, they will laugh in your face and say you are getting the minimum wage.

There is wage you may want, and a wage you can expect to get. And if a girl wants to be a sugar babe, and this is the amount most men have. Its her choice of not being one, or accepting the rate people have.

But a girl saying I want £1k plus per month or whatever is all great but I don't think she will find many men with the cash to do it.

Wait... you're actually serious??

You really would expect to pay a girl seeking a sugar daddy no more than £500 a month?

[AnthG]

Wait... you're actually serious??

You really would expect to pay a girl seeking a sugar daddy no more than £500 a month?

£500 is a bloody lot of money. And she gets free accommodation and a guy treating her nice.

To say again its not a case of a value for money argument its a case of this is how much is there. For me giving £500 per month away is hurtful as its a ruddy lot of money and pretty much all I have spare, and that is serious, not downplayed.

And before people come along saying why not get a better job, or Sugar Daddying is for a better class of people than me. I ask all these people who think to themselves as well off, just do some quick sums in your head, how much spare money do you have per month? Is it a thousand, two thousand, three? I bet it will be in the region of £500 just like me.

So these sugar babes saying give me £500 per week. That basically means the guy must earn at least 2k per month and not eat or pay rent/mortgage. How many jobs pay 2k plus wages per month?

The problem with prostitution is its all turned to fantasty football and monopoly money stakes.

[TheDoctor]

Actually do the sums - if a girl wants £1.5k pm which is about the going ASKING rate (though I dunno how many actually get that much - probably very few) then that's £18k per year. BUT to be able to pay that you should be on 50% income tax / national insurance (assumption - you are on PAYE and everything goes through the books). So that means to pay the girl £18k you need to earn £36k first! Then add on tickets to events / dinners / small pressies and you are probably pushing £50k. Serious dosh!

[Devil Man]

£500 is a bloody lot of money. And she gets free accommodation and a guy treating her nice.

To say again its not a case of a value for money argument its a case of this is how much is there. For me giving £500 per month away is hurtful as its a ruddy lot of money and pretty much all I have spare, and that is serious, not downplayed.

And before people come along saying why not get a better job, or Sugar Daddying is for a better class of people than me. I ask all these people who think to themselves as well off, just do some quick sums in your head, how much spare money do you have per month? Is it a thousand, two thousand, three? I bet it will be in the region of £500 just like me.

So these sugar babes saying give me £500 per week. That basically means the guy must earn at least 2k per month and not eat or pay rent/mortgage. How many jobs pay 2k plus wages per month?

The problem with prostitution is its all turned to fantasty football and monopoly money stakes.

Well, I suppose Value For Money is always relative to the the perspective of the individual. Some would say £500 a month is fantastic, others not so.

I personally feel that wih the economic times being what they are, £500 a month is nowhere near enough. £125 a week is very difficult to survive on, even if accommodation is free, especially in a place like London.

I would think £2000 a month is reasonable, in my own view.

[AnthG]

I would think £2000 a month is reasonable, in my own view.

So do you earn £2000 per month to pay her this?

[TheDoctor]

Well, I suppose Value For Money is always relative to the the perspective of the individual. Some would say £500 a month is fantastic, others not so.

I personally feel that wih the economic times being what they are, £500 a month is nowhere near enough. £125 a week is very difficult to survive on, even if accommodation is free, especially in a place like London.

I would think £2000 a month is reasonable, in my own view.

A normal salaried SD would not entertain the idea of taking on a sugar babe that had no other source of income. Firstly, she could become too dependent upon you, secondly there's more likelihood she'll take other SDs or become a WG. It's better to find one that has a job - even part-time - and therefore she has some financial independence and a focus to her life. I would certainly never take on an unemployed sugar babe - I think that's the domain of the seriously wealthy (investment bankers / private income individual)  or master criminals handling huge amounts of cash

[smiths]

A normal salaried SD would not entertain the idea of taking on a sugar babe that had no other source of income. Firstly, she could become too dependent upon you, secondly there's more likelihood she'll take other SDs or become a WG. It's better to find one that has a job - even part-time - and therefore she has some financial independence and a focus to her life. I would certainly never take on an unemployed sugar babe - I think that's the domain of the seriously wealthy (investment bankers / private income individual)  or master criminals handling huge amounts of cash

Why did you post "or become a WG." Such women are already prostitutes, they take your cash in exchange for sex.

[TheDoctor]

Why did you post "or become a WG." Such women are already prostitutes, they take your cash in exchange for sex.

Think we're in danger of straying off topic now - the old what is a WG debate. My point being as mentioned previously, most SDs like the idea, perhaps foolhardily, that there is exclusivity in the arrangement. Most SDs will not drop £1.5k pm on a woman that is getting shagged elsewhere for £100. 

[smiths]

Think we're in danger of straying off topic now - the old what is a WG debate. My point being as mentioned previously, most SDs like the idea, perhaps foolhardily, that there is exclusivity in the arrangement. Most SDs will not drop £1.5k pm on a woman that is getting shagged elsewhere for £100.

Its a fact if she is getting paid for sex she is a WG, its just dressed up in a different way to a WG who advertises say on A/W, even if there really is exclusivity, which the SD cant know for definite unless living with her 24/7.

I understand why a SD wouldnt want such a WG to be punting with others of course, just seems a big jump to be so sure she wouldnt by agreeing this set sum with her. To me such a WG is likely to be seeing other punters because she is already a WG and very good money on top of the SDs can be made without him knowing. By agreeing a deal in the first place she has shown she can be bought, its then just a matter of the price, and no  disrespect meant to WGs, thats punting. However, i am not a trusting soul, my trust has to be earnt over time. I must say i find this subject very interesting.

[TheDoctor]

Its a fact if she is getting paid for sex she is a WG, its just dressed up in a different way to a WG who advertises say on A/W, even if there really is exclusivity, which the SD cant know for definite unless living with her 24/7.

I understand why a SD wouldnt want such a WG to be punting with others of course, just seems a big jump to be so sure she wouldnt by agreeing this set sum with her. To me such a WG is likely to be seeing other punters because she is already a WG and very good money on top of the SDs can be made without him knowing. By agreeing a deal in the first place she has shown she can be bought, its then just a matter of the price, and no  disrespect meant to WGs, thats punting. However, i am not a trusting soul, my trust has to be earnt over time. I must say i find this subject very interesting.

You're in danger of tarring everyone with the same brush. It isn't a binary 1 or 0 - Yes she's a hooker and will therefore fuck anyone for money or No she's a vestal virgin. Many girls just don't want to be out and out escorts which means see other guys for money. They can reconcile in their own heads being a sugar babe is a neat arrangement with someone they have some chemistry with built up over a period of time and therefore with someone where there is an emotional involvement but not really prostitution  . This person isn't and never would be a boyfriend, but there is mutual respect and therefore so what if he pays my bills?

This is totally different from say creating an AW profile - the AW approach is a different ball game and is fucking a guy immediately and then moving on to the next booking.

Whilst no-one can disagree technically the SB is the same as a AW WG inasmuch as money changes hands for sex I'm sure you can see there is an emotional difference, and the reality is many girls would never consider being an escort but would be cool with a well-heeled sophisticated middle aged man who treats them better than any boyfriend they ever had. So as for the trust issue - it's not as difficult as you may imagine. Pick the right SB and it's unlikely she'll be pulling tricks behind your back.

[Jerboa]

Many off these sugarbabes are the typical dollybird model types, most would scoff at Anth's 500 quid a month, It probably only pay their cosmetic and beauty treatment lol. They are looking for seriously loaded gents who will pay all her bills and give her a monthly allowance and gifts.
No different to being a hooker as I mentioned before.

[smiths]

You're in danger of tarring everyone with the same brush. It isn't a binary 1 or 0 - Yes she's a hooker and will therefore fuck anyone for money or No she's a vestal virgin. Many girls just don't want to be out and out escorts which means see other guys for money. They can reconcile in their own heads being a sugar babe is a neat arrangement with someone they have some chemistry with built up over a period of time and therefore with someone where there is an emotional involvement but not really prostitution  . This person isn't and never would be a boyfriend, but there is mutual respect and therefore so what if he pays my bills?

This is totally different from say creating an AW profile - the AW approach is a different ball game and is fucking a guy immediately and then moving on to the next booking.

Whilst no-one can disagree technically the SB is the same as a AW WG inasmuch as money changes hands for sex I'm sure you can see there is an emotional difference, and the reality is many girls would never consider being an escort but would be cool with a well-heeled sophisticated middle aged man who treats them better than any boyfriend they ever had. So as for the trust issue - it's not as difficult as you may imagine. Pick the right SB and it's unlikely she'll be pulling tricks behind your back.

Yes i understand, to me its all based on a delusion though, its just dressed up as something more than prostitution. I wonder how many of these WGs really have any emotional interest in a SD. Anyway, thanks again, fascinating insight.

[smiths]

Many off these sugarbabes are the typical dollybird model types, most would scoff at Anth's 500 quid a month, It probably only pay their cosmetic and beauty treatment lol. They are looking for seriously loaded gents who will pay all her bills and give her a monthly allowance and gifts.
No different to being a hooker as I mentioned before.

Indeed, give me a good regular WG who openly advertises she is a WG any day. I can see why some guys are into being SDs but definitely not for me in this lifetime.