Nationality - is it me being thick

[RedKettle]

I keep seeing AW profiles that say in the part she has written one nationality, say Moroccan, but then lower down in the facts part it says another, like Hungarian. This profile for example:

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Are they just trying to kid us because certain countries have bad reputations?  If so surely they fill in the bit at the bottom so why lie above?  Or am I just missing something. 

[OldAdmin]

Yes they are lying, from my experience all the Romanians I've met claimed to be from countries in Southern European, Italy, Spain, etc.

The Nationality bit at the bottom is filled by A/W admin, they enter the nationality of whatever passport / driving license they are given. The prossies can't change the Nationality bit.

[nigel4498]

Cheers Admin, that clears up that puzzle,  cheers. 

[Captain Caveman]

I wouldn't say they are necessarily all lying. For example, there are many ethnic Russians in the Baltic States. A girl from there may have a passport that says 'Latvian' or whatever but they would choose to describe themselves as 'Russian'.

Maybe the Moroccan in the OP's link is married to a Hungarian and so got a Hungarian passport?

[Capt Jack Sparrow]

A lot of the girls fro East Europe suffer from low esteem.  East Europe is mainly Roman heritage whereas for example us Brits are Anglo Saxon. The EE girls would rather think they have the looks from Spain, Italy rather than downtown Bucharest so say they are from the Mediterranean.
The nose is a giveaway. And say the word "Da" instead of yes when with them as that does vex them.
Also have to consider that under USSR governance many people did not move away from there own townships so we now have 2 generations where the Gene pool is only 3 deg from family members. More so in Russia now and the fact they love there leader so much just goes to show.
There will be a re adjustment in the next 20 years in East Europe for sure so fill your boots with these brunette beauties while you can!

[Ali Katt]

I keep seeing AW profiles that say in the part she has written one nationality, say Moroccan, but then lower down in the facts part it says another, like Hungarian. This profile for example:

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

Are they just trying to kid us because certain countries have bad reputations?  If so surely they fill in the bit at the bottom so why lie above?  Or am I just missing something.

I saw this profile about a week ago, I'm not sure what area she was in before, but she is new to Sheffield. Her feedback is hidden and she has 12 positives out of 21, so that's just over 50%. Just on that alone I wouldn't touch her with a bargepole and yes she another lying Hungarian, she can't even spell Moroccan, a morocCON is right.

[west8]

A lot of the girls fro East Europe suffer from low esteem. 

I would have said the opposite. Girls with low self esteem don't pack their life up and move abroad to fuck for money.

If anything, they are often over confident.

[Capt Jack Sparrow]

Far point. I have met with both on hindsight. The over confident were happy to be filmed. The ones lacking confidence were more intimate.
I met a lovely blonde EE girl in a Reading flat once. Very sweet. One of the few occasions I had to park in a parking bay and  had to leave straight after 60 mins minutes when she was in no rush for me to go  . That was a switch and bait profile as well and was really risky as I turned up there was community Police types hanging around. A car parked outside watching the house and the bloke in the upstairs flat taking the rubbish out directed me to the correct door telling me the girls are in this flat)! She was lovely and convinced me to go a second time in 60 minutes which is a rare feat for me.

[RedKettle]

Yes they are lying, from my experience all the Romanians I've met claimed to be from countries in Southern European, Italy, Spain, etc.

The Nationality bit at the bottom is filled by A/W admin, they enter the nationality of whatever passport / driving license they are given. The prossies can't change the Nationality bit.

thanks - that makes sense.  Saw another profile where nationality Romanian but she claimed to be Brazilian and English!!  Do they really think we believe that?

[RedKettle]

I wouldn't say they are necessarily all lying. For example, there are many ethnic Russians in the Baltic States. A girl from there may have a passport that says 'Latvian' or whatever but they would choose to describe themselves as 'Russian'.

Maybe the Moroccan in the OP's link is married to a Hungarian and so got a Hungarian passport?

Your ability to see the best in people and trust them does you credit.

Could I sell you a car - only one owner and in great condition, honest!

[Jerboa]

I wouldn't say they are necessarily all lying. For example, there are many ethnic Russians in the Baltic States. A girl from there may have a passport that says 'Latvian' or whatever but they would choose to describe themselves as 'Russian'.

Maybe the Moroccan in the OP's link is married to a Hungarian and so got a Hungarian passport?

And maybe she's a lying Roma gypsie who is marketing herself as Moroccan, many girls lie on their profile, and they don't care, as many guys wont even read to the bottom of their profile.

[Stealthshagger]

a few mismatches make sense. for example the text saying aussie or the like, but nationality saying british, as they would use the id that allows them to work here I assume (and many children of expats are entitled to uk passports through the mother). The same applies to brazilians who have italian, spanish, german etc ancestry. They would get the european passport not necessarily the brazilian or argentinean, chilean, american, south african, zimbabwean, nigerian, etc as it allows EU work freely.

the dominant reason is of course to avoid stigma of certain nationalities. some countries have the stigma of certain practices to some/many punters (like lying on profile).

[Daffodil]

I wouldn't say they are necessarily all lying. For example, there are many ethnic Russians in the Baltic States. A girl from there may have a passport that says 'Latvian' or whatever but they would choose to describe themselves as 'Russian'.

Maybe the Moroccan in the OP's link is married to a Hungarian and so got a Hungarian passport?

There's playing devil's advocate, and then there's just playing stupid 

[Captain Caveman]

What a cynical bunch on here! 

[Jimmyredcab]

And maybe she's a lying Roma gypsie who is marketing herself as Moroccan, many girls lie on their profile, and they don't care, as many guys wont even read to the bottom of their profile.

Many girls have never even seen their profile, that is Sergei's job.     

[James999]

I wouldn't say they are necessarily all lying. For example, there are many ethnic Russians in the Baltic States. A girl from there may have a passport that says 'Latvian' or whatever but they would choose to describe themselves as 'Russian'.

For that to be correct it would mean that people from Spain & Italy have moved to Romania or some other shit hole, much more likely that Sergei is lying to disguise where they are from 

[galcom666]

Bah happens the world over! Many Mainland Chinese WG claim to be Japanese because there is a super premium for it you're not going to bang a Japanese girl for less than $1600. You can easily spot them by using colloquialisms only Japanese people would know. A clever one is Ikki men, which literally means black noodles. But in Japanese slang means cool guys. Plus fake Japanese girls have never seen an otohime (a toilet flush sound maker)

They also pretend to be Koreans or Tawainese. Koreans are easy to spot as above as the language is completely different. Taiwanese is more subtle but has a much lower premium.

[vt]

I met a nice Romanian girl at a party the other week who was shit-scared of identifying her nationality because 'guys don't like Romanians'. I told her 'I love Romanian girls' (well, the majority of nice ones I've met), said a few Romanian words I've learnt and the relief on her face was obvious. I told her it could be our little secret. Hopefully I now have a cute little vampiress that will be very pleased to see me again.

I do have some pity for these girls that feel they have to lie about where they're from because of the prejudices of some punters.

[Ali Katt]

I met a nice Romanian girl at a party the other week who was shit-scared of identifying her nationality because 'guys don't like Romanians'. I told her 'I love Romanian girls' (well, the majority of nice ones I've met), said a few Romanian words I've learnt and the relief on her face was obvious. I told her it could be our little secret. Hopefully I now have a cute little vampiress that will be very pleased to see me again.

I do have some pity for these girls that feel they have to lie about where they're from because of the prejudices of some punters.

The problem is they brought it on themselves. There are some great Romanians girls, I've only seen one Rom and had a good time. But they insist on calling themselves Latinas, Spanish or Italian and not offering OWO, kissing or touching of breasts then no wonder they get a bad rep.

[Marmalade]

I think it is statistics more than prejudice. The vast majority of Romanian escorts give a shit service.

So what would a genuinely good Romanian provider do? Lying is bad when it has an intention to deprive the customer of what is reasonably expected. If she says she is Latvian (I for one could not tell a Latvian accent from Romanian) and gives a top flight service, then good luck to her. No-one cares too much which EE country she is really from.

But what if she is not in the class of what we would call a good provider? Most Romanian 'escorts' don't have a clue of the standards that are expected, and to them I'd say the best thing is to carry on 'being Romanian' since the guys who accept those standards not only won't be disappointed but may well comment favourably on her looks (if she has them); whereas if the same woman lies, especially if she lies badly, she will just be "outed" and end up much worse off.

The OP doesn't say if it was a paid-for sex-party or a social party. Prejudice against a person (ie socially) is unacceptable in my opinion: prejudice, so-called, against a function  (ie a Romanian working in her capacity as an escort) may be 'justified' on the basis that the likelihood is that she cannot do the job well unless she proves otherwise (same as a prejudice against a foreigner coming to this country, say, to teach English: you would expect proof they could do the job, since the assumption would be that they probably could not).

[JJ72]

Surely if they were good and Romanian the best thing they could do is still admit to being Romanian but show that they're aware of the stereotype and that they're not like that.

It would also mean that they've done research in their field? no? 

[Ali Katt]

I think it is statistics more than prejudice. The vast majority of Romanian escorts give a shit service.

Lots of people may argue, but I would say the same is true with British women.

[vt]

Surely if they were good and Romanian the best thing they could do is still admit to being Romanian but show that they're aware of the stereotype and that they're not like that.

It would also mean that they've done research in their field? no? 

This girl is exactly the type you mention...proud of her origins...and an intelligent, intuitive provider too! 

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[west8]

I met a nice Romanian girl at a party the other week who was shit-scared of identifying her nationality because 'guys don't like Romanians'. I told her 'I love Romanian girls' (well, the majority of nice ones I've met), said a few Romanian words I've learnt and the relief on her face was obvious. I told her it could be our little secret. Hopefully I now have a cute little vampiress that will be very pleased to see me again.

I do have some pity for these girls that feel they have to lie about where they're from because of the prejudices of some punters.

You've pointed out the single most important thing 99% of punters forget: these girls have MAJOR insecurity issues vis-a-vis their nationality as they know full well how Romanians have been vilified in the UK press over the last few years. Any Romanian girl knows from the off she is going to be pre-judged and stereotyped as a cheap, dirty, pimped Roma whore.

The reality couldn't be further from the truth. Like Hungarians, Romanian woman are responsive and appreciative of kindness and consideration. But they also despise weakness in a man and that is why so many tales of woe abound when reading the experiences of punters with Romanians. The vast majority of Romanian men are lazy, exploitative and leeching fucktards - but there is little the girls can do about it as to them it's normal. Their fathers/brothers/entire fucking extended male family were/are just the same. Marriage at the age of 14 is not unusual - even younger in the countryside.

Hence the apparent general disdain Romanian women appear to have for the opposite sex.

To scratch under the surface and really get to the 'heart' of the matter with a Romanian woman, you need to be strong, firm and fair. A few simple words usually breaks the ice and shows you know - and are happy for her to know that you know - she is from Romania:

Imi pare bine / Nice to meet you
Ce mai faci? /  How are you?
Mulţumesc / Thank you
Imi pare rau / I'm sorry

[PumpAction]

You've pointed out the single most important thing 99% of punters forget: these girls have MAJOR insecurity issues vis-a-vis their nationality as they know full well how Romanians have been vilified in the UK press over the last few years. Any Romanian girl knows from the off she is going to be pre-judged and stereotyped as a cheap, dirty, pimped Roma whore.

The reality couldn't be further from the truth. Like Hungarians, Romanian woman are responsive and appreciative of kindness and consideration. But they also despise weakness in a man and that is why so many tales of woe abound when reading the experiences of punters with Romanians. The vast majority of Romanian men are lazy, exploitative and leeching fucktards - but there is little the girls can do about it as to them it's normal. Their fathers/brothers/entire fucking extended male family were/are just the same. Marriage at the age of 14 is not unusual - even younger in the countryside.

Hence the apparent general disdain Romanian women appear to have for the opposite sex.

To scratch under the surface and really get to the 'heart' of the matter with a Romanian woman, you need to be strong, firm and fair. A few simple words usually breaks the ice and shows you know - and are happy for her to know that you know - she is from Romania:

Imi pare bine / Nice to meet you
Ce mai faci? /  How are you?
Mulţumesc / Thank you
Imi pare rau / I'm sorry

What do they say to you?

Esti comic . Pun pariu că aveți un cârnat mic

[yorkshire123]

What do they say to you?

Esti comic . Pun pariu că aveți un cârnat mic

 

[Jerboa]

What do they say to you?

Esti comic . Pun pariu că aveți un cârnat mic

 

[Ali Katt]

You've pointed out the single most important thing 99% of punters forget: these girls have MAJOR insecurity issues vis-a-vis their nationality as they know full well how Romanians have been vilified in the UK press over the last few years. Any Romanian girl knows from the off she is going to be pre-judged and stereotyped as a cheap, dirty, pimped Roma whore.

Still not an excuse for providing a piss poor service. If British women don't have the same issues how come they consistently provide a piss poor service? I think punters get the lesser end of the deal, especially given how much they pay.

[dilettante]

A lot of the girls fro East Europe suffer from low esteem.  East Europe is mainly Roman heritage whereas for example us Brits are Anglo Saxon. The EE girls would rather think they have the looks from Spain, Italy rather than downtown Bucharest so say they are from the Mediterranean.
The nose is a giveaway. And say the word "Da" instead of yes when with them as that does vex them.
Also have to consider that under USSR governance many people did not move away from there own townships so we now have 2 generations where the Gene pool is only 3 deg from family members. More so in Russia now and the fact they love there leader so much just goes to show.
There will be a re adjustment in the next 20 years in East Europe for sure so fill your boots with these brunette beauties while you can!

Is that subjective esteem, or objective esteem?  And ... er ... actually Romanian is one of the Romance languages too (ie derived from Latin, like French, Italian, Spanisch ... ).  What's the Romanian for Yes, agreed in Slavonic languages it's Da - (looks it up) - OK yes it is Da.