Welsh Barbie - Has this scam been used on others?

[paullingard35]

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External Link/Members Only


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I made an enquiry a week and a half in advance for a London meet and the lady confirmed the meeting via text and via AW.

2 days before the meet she sent me a message saying my AW profile has a ton of neg reviews & i must pay a deposit (even though i only have a string of positives). I challenged her on that and she said i've only had an account for a year so i need to pay a deposit. I should have realised something wasn't right but the glowing reviews on here made me give her the benefit of the doubt. Once i paid the £50 deposit she ghosted me, and despite numerous attempts to contact her after that she didn't respond. In the end i just text her to keep the money and blocked her.

Has this scam been used on others?

[patelprat]

Wow, that sounds truly unbelievable in light of her 44 positives on here. Hundreds of feedbacks on AW too.
She is (was) on my HL too.

Very out-of-character, don't you think, for just £50?

Why block her? Maybe she will eventually reply and explain.

[paullingard35]

You're right, it doesn't make any sense. I must be a doormat. 

In the end i figured she must need the money more than me.

[MLawro93]

Has her AW profile been compromised? Seems quite out of character for someone so well reviewed on here. 

She even has recent AW feedback, why throw all that away for £50? Quite odd...

[patelprat]

You're right, it doesn't make any sense. I must be a doormat. 

In the end i figured she must need the money more than me.

Judging by her popularity, conning someone out of £50 and ruining her rep seems hardly worth it.

Maybe someone used her number or cloned it?

[Momodan38]

Strange. Ghosting isn’t anything new with her. Several members mentioned being ghosted in comments, but despite cojoling from other members, official reviews were never written so it doesn’t really show up on her UKP indexing record.

Deposit is a new one. I’ve never really heard of her asking for a deposit.

Anyway, unlucky OP and thanks for the warning.

[salazar]

I didn't get ghosted just didn't get sufficient bank details (I'm located abroad) and couldn't send her the deposit. I was accused of wasting her f*cking time when I told her I needed more details, so didn't really make it to a review. Never really bothered since.

[rebelscum]

To be honest, if she did indeed scam the OP, she probably thinks people will continue to see her.  There's people on AW that are unaware of this site, and there's loads of WGs with negative reviews on here-doesn't stop some of us from still seeing them, presumably thinking "Oh, bad service, bait and switch, being scammed, etc, won't happen to me". 

[Atrueyorkie]

Send a deposit, be prepared to lose it, regardless of how documented/reviewed she is.

Flag it up on her AW account also as feedback only if a booking wasn’t confirmed on her end.

[scutty brown]

Has this scam been used on others?

In my experience only by someone who wants an urgent fix off their dealer

Just enough to pay for a baggie/shib or whatever it is in your local underspeak

[LLPunting]

Thanks for the warning 

But the loss seems very much down to you.  You caught her in a blatant lie about your AW account and then decided to send her money because she claimed your account was less than a year old, but you've been punting since at least Nov '22 and you present like a veteran punter, isn't it older than that?  If you are and have been lurking around UKP for even longer then plenty of shared experiences to impress upon you the general streetwise to have saved you from this loss.

You caved to all her unreasonable behaviour simply confirming to her you were a desperate mark.  This girl was primed to take your money.  Sending her the futile text after was hopeless.  If you can prove the arrangements and payment then report her to AW, they might disable her account.

Did you not read this https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=350400.0?  Granted a bunch of others crawled out to mention their negative experiences far too late there to be more obviously helpful to that OP.

She'd only been reviewed 3 times in '23 (5 in '22).  Number of recent reviews is what should figure more prominently in one's assessment then total.  The most recent intel in the past 6-12 months considered the most telling.

You were planning ahead, still had 2 days before encounter, why not contact the most recent reviewers and commenters who'd engaged with her to query the ropey behaviour before giving her the money?

Hope you've spent your remaining 250 on a better SP, plenty who are prettier, fitter and more certain to deliver a service.

[IamSpartacus]

All very valid points but she does takes it up the ass like an absolute Trooper and that can be very enticing when you get a brain freeze focus. Just saying. 

[paullingard35]

Some gems here. Thanks for sharing.

It was my fault for ignoring the waving red flags. In any case, i genuinely hope that i was the only person she scammed like this and it was a bad day or maybe even (as some have suggested) her account was hacked.

Time to move on in search of better experiences.

Thanks for the warning 

But the loss seems very much down to you.  You caught her in a blatant lie about your AW account and then decided to send her money because she claimed your account was less than a year old, but you've been punting since at least Nov '22 and you present like a veteran punter, isn't it older than that?  If you are and have been lurking around UKP for even longer then plenty of shared experiences to impress upon you the general streetwise to have saved you from this loss.

You caved to all her unreasonable behaviour simply confirming to her you were a desperate mark.  This girl was primed to take your money.  Sending her the futile text after was hopeless.  If you can prove the arrangements and payment then report her to AW, they might disable her account.

Did you not read this https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=350400.0?  Granted a bunch of others crawled out to mention their negative experiences far too late there to be more obviously helpful to that OP.

She'd only been reviewed 3 times in '23 (5 in '22).  Number of recent reviews is what should figure more prominently in one's assessment then total.  The most recent intel in the past 6-12 months considered the most telling.

You were planning ahead, still had 2 days before encounter, why not contact the most recent reviewers and commenters who'd engaged with her to query the ropey behaviour before giving her the money?

Hope you've spent your remaining 250 on a better SP, plenty who are prettier, fitter and more certain to deliver a service.

[Stealthmode]

For those saying why for only £50. She could have been doing this to multiple people on any given day. If 10 guys send £50 for free, suddenly it seems worthwhile on her side.

[PumpDump]

Can we put a banner on top of every page which simply says "If an Escort asks for a deposit for incall she is a guaranteed scammer". 

[PilotMan]

Can we put a banner on top of every page which simply says "If an Escort asks for a deposit for incall she is a guaranteed scammer". 

Probably not a sensible thing to do, because there are a few genuine escorts who ask for this.

OP should have let his big brain do the thinking 

[hendrix]

Can we put a banner on top of every page which simply says "If an Escort asks for a deposit for incall she is a guaranteed scammer". 

That's not true though.

Seems quite bizarre for a well reviewed WG with a decent rep to start stealing deposits, but I guess we can never know what's going on in their lives. Sorry to hear about it OP and thank for flagging.

[massagepuntingfan]

Can we put a banner on top of every page which simply says "If an Escort asks for a deposit for incall she is a guaranteed scammer". 

I've seen two SPs in the last year who have asked for small deposits to secure the booking. They were well reviewed and both honoured the booking.

[Atrueyorkie]

It’s not cut and dry about deposits. But the guarantee is if you send money to a stranger, expect to lose it.

[massagepuntingfan]

It’s not cut and dry about deposits. But the guarantee is if you send money to a stranger, expect to lose it.

I would agree its a gamble if the SP has little to no feedback/reviews. But if the SP has good feedback and a booking request is made along with the small deposit given to secure the outcall for a 'new client" then I think it's an educated gamble.

[LLPunting]

I would agree its a gamble if the SP has little to no feedback/reviews. But if the SP has good feedback and a booking request is made along with the small deposit given to secure the outcall for a 'new client" then I think it's an educated gamble.

For a n other SP with an established honest protocol perhaps.
For this one previous recent reviews made no mention of deposit so there's nothing trustworthy about being lied to and told to hand over a deposit.

[massagepuntingfan]

For a n other SP with an established honest protocol perhaps.
For this one previous recent reviews made no mention of deposit so there's nothing trustworthy about being lied to and told to hand over a deposit.

I agree with you. My comments are in response to the previous remark that all deposits should be expected to be scams which is incorrect.
I've gone off topic from the review. I'm sorry the guy got fucked around but he was silly enough to pay a deposit without making a booking request and its clear that the SP was being mistrust worthy with her reasoning.

[Alexmck]

Sorry if hijacking the thread (not about deposits) but this agency says no incalls until you do an outcall with them first

First time come across this. Anyone else encountered this?

[WelshMichael]

Sorry if hijacking the thread (not about deposits) but this agency says no incalls until you do an outcall with them first

First time come across this. Anyone else encountered this?

Thought she was independent? Is that not the case when she works in London?

[scutty brown]

Sorry if hijacking the thread (not about deposits) but this agency says no incalls until you do an outcall with them first

First time come across this. Anyone else encountered this?

where did that come from?
Nothing on her AW profile to suggest that, and nothing there to suggest an agency is involved

[Alexmck]

where did that come from?
Nothing on her AW profile to suggest that, and nothing there to suggest an agency is involved

Sorry, messed up

This is the agency:
External Link/Members Only

Nothing to do with this girl but girls at the agency. Maybe I should move to a different thread

Lunchtime vino kicked in. Apologies

[daviemac]

Sorry, messed up

This is the agency:
External Link/Members Only

Nothing to do with this girl but girls at the agency. Maybe I should move to a different thread

Lunchtime vino kicked in. Apologies

What has any of this got to do with the SP in this review? What point are you trying to make. So what if they want you to do an outcall first if you don't like it don't book.

[Alexmck]

What has any of this got to do with the SP in this review? What point are you trying to make. So what if they want you to do an outcall first if you don't like it don't book.

My screw up

Agency doesn't allow incalls even for girls advertised as incalls until you book at least one outcall first. Wondered if becoming common

Nothing to do with this girl but trustworthiness and booking got shaken around my brain with a lot of red and a few cocktails

Sorry - ignore

[Hardman123]

Was going to reach out to secure some time with her in advance but having second thoughts now

[Trex]

Last year two British WG turn me down because I couldn’t pay the deposit. I have got good reviews on AW and I spoke one of them on the phone. Crazy they would definitely would see me if it was couple of years back or before Covid.

I just don’t wont my personal name to send a deposit, I would like to do it anonymously but I might get scammed like this case but fair play to paullingard35 for letting us know about this, I bet there are many guys on here been deposit scam and won’t say a word.