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Author Topic: Nikita Devine convicted of benefit fraud (BBC)  (Read 23813 times)

Offline hendrix

She's a great filthy fuck, one of the best. Certainly won't stop me booking her. If I was going to boycott everybody that cheated the taxpayer, there'd be nobody left to do business with. Especially in Government.

Because it doesn't hurt me personally and they're sticking it to the man for al their illegal wars and support of the arms industry and taxing ordinary earnings.

I really hope your taking the piss with the sticking it to the man bit....


Offline Wowgeek

Because it doesn't hurt me personally and they're sticking it to the man for al their illegal wars and support of the arms industry and taxing ordinary earnings.

Not sure of your logic here. If the government need to raise £1000 tax from 10 people then they'll charge them £100 each, an equitable arrangement. If half of those people don't pay it they have to charge the rest £200 each to cover the shortfall.

If you are one of the 50% that pay it, because Devine in one of the 50% that doesn't, then it most certainly affects you personally as everything you pay for that has tax added is more expensive than it would be if everyone paid.

I do hope that's clear.

Offline herbie007

She's a great filthy fuck, one of the best. Certainly won't stop me booking her. If I was going to boycott everybody that cheated the taxpayer, there'd be nobody left to do business with. Especially in Government.

I agree, plus I would go back too, she's a great shag.  :P

Offline James999

I agree, plus I would go back too, she's a great shag.

She will need the income as she has has some benefits to pay back, and HMRC will be expecting a cut of her income  :music:

Offline herbie007

She will need the income as she has has some benefits to pay back, and HMRC will be expecting a cut of her income  :music:



Always happy to help out whenever I can  :rolleyes:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Because she has done something that every single WG does in the entire country?

The video even said at the start 5.4 Billion pounds is lost each year from people in this industry not paying tax. They are pretty much saying that is every WG is not paying an ounce of tax.

I believe that some pro$$ies pay tax but it is a tiny percentage, if a pro$$ie is buying a property she would be very silly to pay no tax at all.

Needless to say the Eastern European girls would not bother with tax, why on earth would they. ????

Offline hendrix



Always happy to help out whenever I can  :rolleyes:

Agreed. At least Nikita takes it up the arse unlike HMRC who only give it  :thumbsdown:

Offline greychap

Most escorts don't pay tax, personally I would like to see all girls in this industry contribute to this country but lets face it girls and especially agencies that charge a low price of £50 for a full service with everything included for 30 minutes those girls will not be paying tax and most will be on benefits if you wanted those girls to pay tax and come off benefits you would not be getting such a cheap price.

 If they paid an agency which I am guessing from what I have been told they could take £20 so there left with £30 then if they were paying tax out of that then even money towards there business incall and even possibly vat plus they would have to cover all there own mortgage, rent bills etc no girl would be doing it for £50 as they were going to be left with basically hardly anything then the services they provide would be reduced heavily. So my point is if those girls did go straight your price would go up a lot so not in the interest of the punter that cannot afford to pay much and only has a budget of £50.

Just to point out I do know some escorts that do pay there taxes and agencies, these ones that do seem to pay there usually agencies or girls that charge a min of 1hr and not too cheap and the reason I know this is there has been times I have booked agencies and girls for a long booking and the travel is far and I have paid them a deposit in to there business accounts both through agencies and escorts themselves and some of the girls over the years I have seen have high morgages, cars and horses so you have to be seen paying your taxes to cover all that amount.

 Also one lady I knew a few years ago very professional lady I recommended a new accountant for her as she had trouble with her last one she went on to use him and from what I can tell she must have declared most of her income as I remember her mortgage payments were around £1350 a month plus she had 3 horses in stables she told me herself her outgoings were high she could not pocket much because she had to cover a large outgoing.

So if we want these cheap girls from agencies at £50 to pay tax expect an increase in the punter paying much more. Personally I think they should all pay tax and I would be ok for an increase if I knew they were contributing, but some men would not be able to afford it. I usually always have a min of 1hr booking but if like someone have been known to go for several hours for even an overnight.

I see girls in all different parts of the country and been doing quite a bit in the Northeast recently and cannot believe how cheap some of the agencies and girls are here, you know a lot of these girls are not PAYING THERE TAXES.

Girls in the industry that do charge more money then the cheap punts I would be disgusted if they don't pay there taxes and are taking off tax payers and claiming as well. I would be happy for all escorts to increase there prices provided they paid there taxes.
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Offline akauya

She's a great filthy fuck, one of the best. Certainly won't stop me booking her. If I was going to boycott everybody that cheated the taxpayer, there'd be nobody left to do business with. Especially in Government.


And I would have to do a lot of walking or take public transport instead of taxis in London :D


Offline James999

if you wanted those girls to pay tax and come off benefits you would not be getting such a cheap price.


Don't be a cunt, £150 an hour even if taxable is a good rate for a girl with no skills, no qualification, no training and often little education, her alternative is £7 an hour stacking shelves  :sarcastic:

I literally can't believe how stupid she has been.

Paying tax for working girls would not be all that bad as around the first £10k you earn is tax free. Obviously they have expenses depending on hotels another other expenses they gonna have to work a bit to earn quite a but before they are hitting the top text bracket.

I can't believe that she clammed housing, I can't believe anyone that does that. After all if you caught speeding you get done for that one offence it's not as if the old bill are be able to do for all past offences like that will with benefit fraud. So dumb.

Offline GeeWiz

If they paid an agency which I am guessing from what I have been told they could take £20 so there left with £30 then if they were paying tax out of that then even money towards there business incall and even possibly vat plus they would have to cover all there own mortgage, rent bills etc no girl would be doing it for £50 as they were going to be left with basically hardly anything then the services they provide would be reduced heavily. So my point is if those girls did go straight your price would go up a lot so not in the interest of the punter that cannot afford to pay much and only has a budget of £50.

The ONS stated in December 2013, that average hourly earnings before tax for UK workers was £13.60 for men and £12.24 for women.

I would still expect an escort earning £30 in half hour (after agency cut - do you mean massage parlour?), so up to £60 an hour to pay tax.  Just like those on the minumum wage of £6.50 an hour do, if they work enough hours a year.


Offline greychap

I do think £150 an hr is a good rate to pay tax on just saying the agencies that charge £50 can you really see the girls paying tax on............???????

And to do with a lot of the girls working yes I agree a lot of them are thick with no skills that is why they are doing it but as I have seen a mixture of ladies over the years from £300 an hr to £120 an hr in various cities and various agencies some of the girls are a different level  to each other.

Some girls you can tell they pay no tax are on benefits and probably on drugs and some of there homes can be council flats that they offer incalls at. Other level of girls I have seen that do this job are simply topping up there income and can still have a good job but have more expensive lifestyles as to why they do this. All I am saying there is different types of girls in this industry.

You have the street walker, the cheaper end massage brothel girl at £50 and then you have the £130 above girls and up to £300 an hr girls. I have used some of the cheaper agencies in the north east and used some agencies where it is more expensive there is certainly a different type girls that work in this industry, I can tell from first meeting within a couple of minutes the girls that claim benefits and only do this and I can tell the ones where they have a career and education and are just doing this as an extra to have a lot more money.

I saw a girl recently at a north east agency and I got on well with her I paid for an 1 hr and sometimes I will tip if good. We chatted for a while and she must have felt comfortable with me but she said I hate it when I get the cheap half hour appointments they want so much for nothing so cheap and some of them are so vile I have to pretend I like them when I don't most of us girls feel like this but because the agencies set this price there is not much we can do about it so have to pretend we are enjoying ourselves when we really feel like biting off there cock.

Although I was a bit surprised she confided in me with this how she really felt but its probably because I said I don't do half hr appointments and most of my outcalls I tend to extend to 2 or 3hrs, she said to me my kind of man!

I said do you know many of the girls in this industry she said yes we meet up and sometimes on jobs as well. She said we talk about the horrible clients as some of us have seen the same men so know who they are, I said hope you don't hate me she said god no your lovely us girls wish all of you were like you we just wish we could not see the vile scum ones but because the agency does the 30 minutes for the cheap punters we have to do these ones as well.

Well I think we all know what the workers really think of most of us now, even if I wanted just a quickie doubt I would go for it as I would find it hard to relax after I know what they must be thinking in the middle of action.
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Offline GeeWiz

And to do with a lot of the girls working yes I agree a lot of them are thick...

I'm sure most know the difference between there and their plus your and you're though.

Offline Dani

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I do think £150 an hr is a good rate to pay tax on just saying the agencies that charge £50 can you really see the girls paying tax on............???????
 

£50 for 30 minutes work is still £100 an hour and still much more than many people earn.  If someone decides not to pay tax on that money that is there choice but they wont be able to have a mortgage and eventually there will come a time when the tax man will want to know what they lived on during that period of time where they supposedly had no income.  What is the point of working hard if you are not going to be buying a house?  You cannot save and pay cash for it if you don't pay tax as that is the easiest way to get caught and you cant get a mortgage if you don't pay tax so what would be the point of doing this job.  No one can buy that many pairs of shoes or handbags so the money has to go somewhere and putting it in a bank is risky again if you are not paying tax

Offline greychap

I honestly think if a girl cleared £30 after paying an agency with out taking out maybe taxis to get to the incalls then had to pay taxes and pay for there own homes rent or morgages and also it does not mean they have lots of customers per day sometimes might only be one or two jobs in that shift (which some girls have told me they only do a couple of jobs due to so many other girls working)  this would mean that some girls probably would only make  maybe £300 a week over 5 days so of course those girls are not going to pay tax and come of benefits are they.

But for the girls that get a lot of work and charge more per job they are earning good money and should not be claiming and not be paying tax.

Lets think out of the box a little here..... I am an older man im ok looking but not a god try to take care of myself but I know some girls might think I prefer someone younger then seeing me.

All men, if you was to start doing this job yourself as a male escort and see women would you be ok seeing ugly fat women that smelt and made you feel ill and if so would it only be because the money was really good???

I have asked myself this many times if I was in the escorts position and chose to go in to this line of work I think I would only do this if there was very good money involved to put up with the people I did not want to be intimate with...

So for the girls that do this for say clearing between £20 and £30  per client and maybe only getting a couple of clients a day if I was the male escort it would have to be shelf stacking then going with a smelly fat women that I was repulsed by.

So to do with the tax of course those girls that get that amount are never going to pay tax or come off benefits for that type of earnings.

The day that HMRC go round to every parlour and agency out there wanting every girl on the books tax registered especially at these prices the day is over for these girls working or we see the agencies putting the £50 price for 30 minutes up to £100 for 30 minutes. That will be a fact


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Offline Jimmyredcab

I literally can't believe how stupid she has been.

Paying tax for working girls would not be all that bad as around the first £10k you earn is tax free.

You don't get it do you.     :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

If they declare their work to HMRC they have to give up their benefits, for a single Mum that could amount to £300 a week including their rent being paid.

Offline James999

Paying tax for working girls would not be all that bad as around the first £10k you earn is tax free. Obviously they have expenses

What GENUINE epenses do Pro$$ies have

Condoms = Free from Gum Clinic
Medical care = Free from NHS / Clinics
Accomodation = Free Paid for by council / housing benefit
Council tax = Free paid for by benefits

If they travel they charge the client for the cost, they rarely wear whats required just what they have in their wardrobe, make up / sun beds etc they would use anyway.

And on top of that they will get benefits to cover heating / lighting and the luxury they rarely provide for clients "hot water"

Offline greychap

I like to see an escort doing well, buying a house, saving for the future being smart with there money I have met some lovely girls from this work.  A girl that makes good money should put it to good use and if you don't pay your taxes then your right you cannot get a mortgage so looks like your just doing it for clothes, handbags, holidays (and drugs in a lot of cases) no benefit for the future, expensive handbags wont pay your rent or bills.

One escort I used to see on an off for 5 years she put her self through uni, bought a house, had savings and paid her taxes. She left this industry recently as the job she got was making over £60,000 a year and did not need to work no more in this industry plus she managed to in 5 years pay off her house she bought. That is the kind of escort/women I admire she did what she did to better herself. She said to me she did not mind the work but sometimes it became very hard and it is a huge risk doing this for so many reasons, she said if she did this for 5 years and came out with nothing she probably would have taken her own life, she did not come in to this just to buy handbags it was to better herself.

More girls in this industry should take a leaf out of her book an escort certainly to admire and look up to.
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Offline James999

I like to see an escort doing well, buying a house, saving for the future being smart with there money

Yeah, they're about as rare as rocking horse shit  :music:

Who was the one you mentioned who paid off mortgage etc, perhaps some of us will know her, or indeed helped her pay off her mortgage.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2014, 01:35:48 PM by James999 »

Offline greychap

James999 I don't know how many escorts you have seen and what types of ones as you have no reviews but yes we all know a lot of escorts or prostitutes or brothel workers indeed that work pay no taxes and only pay the agency fee or maybe drivers as well if outcalls... we all know about those type of workers that don't contribute to society at all but leech off tax payers.

  I am also talking about the small percentage of escorts that are different to those types that do pay there taxes and pay there monthly mortgage and don't claim from us tax payers.

If you have a broader punting field like I have had, there is a small percentage of girls that pay taxes and have a different lifestyle completely, but the girls that work at the £50 agencies I do not believe they are tax registered and pay for anything apart from the agency fee its obvious to me and most people that no tax is being paid and half the incalls if they do at there own place I assume most are probably rent paid by us the tax payer and not themselves paying for it.

But the bottom line is a lot of punters probably don't care if the girls pay tax as it is just about what happens in there appointments and how good it is.
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Offline James999

I am also talking about the small percentage of escorts that are different to those types that do pay there taxes and pay there monthly mortgage and don't claim from us tax payers.

Good to hear, can you name a few of them  :hi:

Offline greychap

The women that I knew that paid off her house etc was a escort from Manchester but I used to see another one from London that did quite well and was saving up to buy a home in France and was buying a horse riding school both now retired and not working I don't think.

But yes these type of escorts are quite rare indeed but  least you can have intelligent conversation as well with some of these women which we did.
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Offline smiths

James999 I don't know how many escorts you have seen and what types of ones as you have no reviews but yes we all know a lot of escorts or prostitutes or brothel workers indeed that work pay no taxes and only pay the agency fee or maybe drivers as well if outcalls... we all know about those type of workers that don't contribute to society at all but leech off tax payers.

  I am also talking about the small percentage of escorts that are different to those types that do pay there taxes and pay there monthly mortgage and don't claim from us tax payers.

If you have a broader punting field like I have had, there is a small percentage of girls that pay taxes and have a different lifestyle completely, but the girls that work at the £50 agencies I do not believe they are tax registered and pay for anything apart from the agency fee its obvious to me and most people that no tax is being paid and half the incalls if they do at there own place I assume most are probably rent paid by us the tax payer and not themselves paying for it.

But the bottom line is a lot of punters probably don't care if the girls pay tax as it is just about what happens in there appointments and how good it is.

I have punted with numerous WGs and i have absolutely no idea which if any paid tax, how do you know that ANY have?


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