Amazon drones delivery

[radioman33]

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This is being introduced next year,I heard about it on sky news,I thought it would be difficult with them all flying around in the air but I suppose it will work as times change.The maximum weight is 5 lbs (2.2 kg)

[lewisjones23]

I can’t really see it working in this country due to the weather and levels of petty crime. Somewhere like Dubai no issues at all.

What I’m surprised about Amazon is that they haven’t gone in to parcel delivery yet. They have the set up ready to go and I’d be surprised if there is a neighbourhood in the UK that doesn’t have an Amazon van in it every day, or at least an Amazon flex driver

They could come in and almost overnight put Envi, Yodel, Parcelforce etc out of business

[daviemac]

I can’t really see it working in this country due to the weather and levels of petty crime. Somewhere like Dubai no issues at all.

What I’m surprised about Amazon is that they haven’t gone in to parcel delivery yet. They have the set up ready to go and I’d be surprised if there is a neighbourhood in the UK that doesn’t have an Amazon van in it every day, or at least an Amazon flex driver

They could come in and almost overnight put Envi, Yodel, Parcelforce etc out of business

Amazon haven't got the capacity to take on general parcel deliveries for other companies, they're having to build new warehouses to cope with their own, they already have more warehouses to cover any given area than the couriers you mention.

I know someone who used to work nightshift at one of their warehouses sorting through the several artic loads of goods arriving every night it continued throughout the day as well and that was just one of the NE warehouses.   

[radioman33]

I agree with the weather conditions issues.I don’t know how living in a flat will work,having them disturbing people sitting in their gardens,dogs barking.Ive seen the warehouse at Tilbury Essex.

[RandomGuy99]

I can't see it taking off in the UK. I can see it working in the countryside or small towns to a limited extent. The drones are just too big and they can't carry much weight and do I really need stuff within 30 minutes? I think not.

[DastardlyDick]

I can't see it taking off in the UK. I can see it working in the countryside or small towns to a limited extent. The drones are just too big and they can't carry much weight and do I really need stuff within 30 minutes? I think not.

Given the CAAs Air Navigation Orders relating to drones, it'll never happen. Just the rule about the operator having to be within sight of the drone would render it useless.
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[scutty brown]

I'll be very surprised if this gets the go-ahead.
The CAA at the moment won't even let the Morecambe Bay NHS drone trial take place due to safety concerns - and that's just four sites dotted around the bay

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[ProjectFun]

Given the CAAs Air Navigation Orders relating to drones, it'll never happen. Just the rule about the operator having to be within sight of the drone would render it useless.
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       The rule will not apply to Amazon though,big business like Amazon want control of the air space to do drone delivery's so hobbyists currently using the airspace like Rc planes,heli's and drones are a nuisance to them and are facing more and more regulations in a effort to get rid of them.

[myothernameis]

I can’t really see it working in this country due to levels of petty crime.

Seen a trailer, for a documentary of prison life in a male prison, and this include a drone being used to deliver drugs, and mobile phones

[DastardlyDick]

       The rule will not apply to Amazon though,big business like Amazon want control of the air space

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I very much doubt that NATS or the CAA, never mind the Government, would allow any business to control UK airspace.

[shaft10]

Any airborne parcel delivery would get intercepted by the Sky Rats (Seagulls) that patrol the airspace where I live .. good luck with that one

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Have they or can they negoitate their way thru overhead phone wires?..

[daviemac]

Just noticed there's a program on tonight about the and how they work, I don't need to watch it to know they treat their workers like shit.

The person I know took the job starting at midnight until 8am then without any notice they changed it to a 3am start.That was when he left. 

[lewisjones23]

saw something about Amazon starting a trial with robots replacing human workers in the distribution units to pick orders

if they can crack that then they’ll soon lay off the majority of their staff to save money

[RandomGuy99]

saw something about Amazon starting a trial with robots replacing human workers in the distribution units to pick orders

if they can crack that then they’ll soon lay off the majority of their staff to save money

Looks like they need some work and they don't seem to be showing carrying heavy boxes

BBC News - Amazon trials humanoid robots to 'free up' staff
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[RandomGuy99]

Have they or can they negoitate their way thru overhead phone wires?..

They are supposed to have inboard hazard avoidance sensors and software, so they will avoid tree branches and the like.  I can't see them doing well in rain or wind and do seem to be massive. You definitely wouldn't want one dropping on your head.

[Stevelondon]

I can't see it taking off in the UK.

I just knew somebody would say it 😂

[hairdownthere]

Amazon haven't got the capacity to take on general parcel deliveries for other companies, they're having to build new warehouses to cope with their own, they already have more warehouses to cover any given area than the couriers you mention.

I know someone who used to work nightshift at one of their warehouses sorting through the several artic loads of goods arriving every night it continued throughout the day as well and that was just one of the NE warehouses.

Amazon are doing deliveries for a few companies now.  I've recently bought stuff from retailers based in Merseyside/Cheshire/Yorkshire and have been given the option for Amazon delivery.

[daviemac]

Amazon are doing deliveries for a few companies now.  I've recently bought stuff from retailers based in Merseyside/Cheshire/Yorkshire and have been given the option for Amazon delivery.

My point was they haven't got the capacity to put the other delivery companies like Evri, Yodel and Parcelforce out of business as suggested here. -

They could come in and almost overnight put Envi, Yodel, Parcelforce etc out of business

There's loads of retailers that work in association with Amazon and some sell goods via their site.

[sir wanksalot]

There's absolutely no fucking way this is viable.

Amazon have been banging on about drone delivery for a few years. I think they only raise it to get publicity.

A whole host of reasons why this idea isn't credible but a few are...

pedestrian safety
motorist safety
sheer logistics of operating an unmanned drone miles away from any depot WITH a payload

[RandomGuy99]

There's absolutely no fucking way this is viable.

Amazon have been banging on about drone delivery for a few years. I think they only raise it to get publicity.

A whole host of reasons why this idea isn't credible but a few are...

pedestrian safety
motorist safety
sheer logistics of operating an unmanned drone miles away from any depot WITH a payload

I think they're using it as a way of developing technology for other uses perhaps terrain hugging drones to resupply troops in the field or deliver medication.  There are definitely some places where it would work.

[radioman33]

There's absolutely no fucking way this is viable.

Amazon have been banging on about drone delivery for a few years. I think they only raise it to get publicity.

A whole host of reasons why this idea isn't credible but a few are...

pedestrian safety
motorist safety
sheer logistics of operating an unmanned drone miles away from any depot WITH a payload

Why not?Im sure the richest man in the world has thought about the future.The end piece is the delivery and at the moment it’s people in the gig economy driving around in their own vans dropping off.This is only going to start off in one area.Before the covid we never saw electric scooters now they are everywhere.

[Blackpool Rock]

Why not?Im sure the richest man in the world has thought about the future.The end piece is the delivery and at the moment it’s people in the gig economy driving around in their own vans dropping off.This is only going to start off in one area.Before the covid we never saw electric scooters now they are everywhere.

Yeah it's disruptive Technology and if nobody ever thought outside the box and then acted on it nothing new would ever get developed.

Sometimes these things work and sometimes they don't but there's a huge long list of things people said would never happen that are now commonplace.

Personally I think it's not necessarily going to replace mainstream deliveries but for shorter range up to a couple of miles or when the requirement is urgent or high value then why not 

[RandomGuy99]

They could air drop condoms, wet wipes and lube for SPs.

[Blackpool Rock]

They could air drop condoms, wet wipes and lube for SPs.

Or Bluey's for punters 

[sir wanksalot]

Why not?Im sure the richest man in the world has thought about the future.The end piece is the delivery and at the moment it’s people in the gig economy driving around in their own vans dropping off.This is only going to start off in one area.Before the covid we never saw electric scooters now they are everywhere.

You're thinking of the problem rather then the solution.

Do you know much about drones? I'm not an expert either but I used to work with a guy who had the full CAA licence and even then he lost a few drones from simple malfunctions.

Now imagine a drone falling out of the sky on a busy motorway or other road. You might say that they will plot the drone route to avoid busy streets but it will STILL have to fly over a lot of streets just to get to a customer's house.

Where will it take off from? The Amazon warehouses? There's not all that many of them which creates a problem for flight range and flight path i.e. almost inevitable the drone will fly over heavy traffic areas.

Even if you avoid heavy traffic areas completely.....big IF.....then how can you prevent the drone being caught by a strong cross wind or bird strike or any other number of factors?

How many parcels do you think the drone is going to being flying around with? It's not financially viable if it can only deliver one parcel at a time compared to a delivery driver and if it's carrying multiple parcels at the same time then how the f*ck is it going to separate the right parcel from the remaining parcels at the point of delivery.

The whole idea is fanciful.

[sir wanksalot]

They could air drop condoms, wet wipes and lube for SPs.

Yeah-let's hope Hermes (Evri) never decide to deliver by drones otherwise Doris at No 25 will be getting all my porn stuff and gimp masks

[RandomGuy99]

You're thinking of the problem rather then the solution.

Do you know much about drones? I'm not an expert either but I used to work with a guy who had the full CAA licence and even then he lost a few drones from simple malfunctions.

Now imagine a drone falling out of the sky on a busy motorway or other road. You might say that they will plot the drone route to avoid busy streets but it will STILL have to fly over a lot of streets just to get to a customer's house.

Where will it take off from? The Amazon warehouses? There's not all that many of them which creates a problem for flight range and flight path i.e. almost inevitable the drone will fly over heavy traffic areas.

Even if you avoid heavy traffic areas completely.....big IF.....then how can you prevent the drone being caught by a strong cross wind or bird strike or any other number of factors?

How many parcels do you think the drone is going to being flying around with? It's not financially viable if it can only deliver one parcel at a time compared to a delivery driver and if it's carrying multiple parcels at the same time then how the f*ck is it going to separate the right parcel from the remaining parcels at the point of delivery.

The whole idea is fanciful.

Maybe they'll open a large number of smaller warehouses perhaps one in each town and keep local stores of commonly ordered items that are small enough to be dispatched by drone. Each warehouse could have space for 1 or 2 drones and it would deliver in the local area.  You could then get deliveries with hours or minutes.  I'm big fan of Amazon Lockers where you can get stuff delivered quickly especially in cities. I use them when traveling if I need something urgently. If I don't get time to collect the item it gets returned and I get a refund.

Drones are usually programmed to return to an emergency recovery point if they have a problem, but sometimes the problem is such that it will crash from the sky.

I just can't see it becoming a common thing. It would easier to just use small vans with a local warehouse.

[radioman33]

You're thinking of the problem rather then the solution.

Do you know much about drones? I'm not an expert either but I used to work with a guy who had the full CAA licence and even then he lost a few drones from simple malfunctions.

Now imagine a drone falling out of the sky on a busy motorway or other road. You might say that they will plot the drone route to avoid busy streets but it will STILL have to fly over a lot of streets just to get to a customer's house.

Where will it take off from? The Amazon warehouses? There's not all that many of them which creates a problem for flight range and flight path i.e. almost inevitable the drone will fly over heavy traffic areas.

Even if you avoid heavy traffic areas completely.....big IF.....then how can you prevent the drone being caught by a strong cross wind or bird strike or any other number of factors?

How many parcels do you think the drone is going to being flying around with? It's not financially viable if it can only deliver one parcel at a time compared to a delivery driver and if it's carrying multiple parcels at the same time then how the f*ck is it going to separate the right parcel from the remaining parcels at the point of delivery.

The whole idea is fanciful.

I don’t know much about drones,seen one fly past my home and a few in the park.Theres 175 Amazon warehouses here  I believe .I saw a programme on ch5 about amazon,the pickers or workers have 7 seconds to get the items which are all mixed up,nothing is in the same place like slippers in the same compartment or socks,it’s one big jumble sale look they described it looking.It will be happening.

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[Blackpool Rock]

Presumably there's less tax on a drone delivery than a van, Amazon don't like paying tax in the UK 

[sir wanksalot]

Presumably there's less tax on a drone delivery than a van, Amazon don't like paying tax in the UK 

I think most of Big Tech don't like paying their taxes.

Don't they claim their sales are finalised in Ireland or something like that?

[Blackpool Rock]

I think most of Big Tech don't like paying their taxes.

Don't they claim their sales are finalised in Ireland or something like that?

Various places, Amazon is based in Luxembourg and pay something like 7% tax in Luxembourg while I believe still claiming tax credits here in the UK for investment in infrastructure such as robots which will eventually in turn take human jobs so people won't even be paying tax on wages (and neither will the robots  )

[RandomGuy99]

I think most of Big Tech don't like paying their taxes.

Don't they claim their sales are finalised in Ireland or something like that?

And that's why they make such large amounts of profit. Countries are introducing tax changes though to recover some of the tax that should be paid. Tax laws need to catch up with the digital age.

[hairdownthere]

My point was they haven't got the capacity to put the other delivery companies like Evri, Yodel and Parcelforce out of business as suggested here. - There's loads of retailers that work in association with Amazon and some sell goods via their site.

I have notice more and more retailers selling through Amazon, though those ones I mentioned that offer delivery by Amazon don't sell via it. 

Around my area, a snail could deliver faster than Evri or Yodel!

[radioman33]

I have notice more and more retailers selling through Amazon, though those ones I mentioned that offer delivery by Amazon don't sell via it. 

Around my area, a snail could deliver faster than Evri or Yodel!

It’s called amazon marketplace ,you put your business on their and amazon take a cut.

[mr.bluesky]

Yeah-let's hope Hermes (Evri) never decide to deliver by drones otherwise Doris at No 25 will be getting all my porn stuff and gimp masks

Too late I've already received them 
I was expecting model railway World magazine