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Author Topic: Major adultwork wakeup call  (Read 17681 times)

Offline punk

where to start..

might be better to work backwards.

got home yesterday.  hit play on the answering machine at home.  my home landline number.  An escort from Adultwork.  she knew my name, my address, and obviously my number.  I didn't hear the whole message I hit delete as my other half walked in the room.  She heard a bit of it, which has been bad enough

the background:
I'd messaged an escort on AW a week ago.  I'd fancied indulging my submissive side for once.  She had all the boxes ticked - fetish, role play, discipline etc etc.  I sent her a message, nothing wild or wierd, run of the mill, strict aunty/teacher/nanny/naughty boy type stuff

Had several messages back from her, very aggresive, how dare I ask for such a thing, what gives me the right to send a message outlining something I'd like for a meet, she has never been so offended etc etc.  After the first message, I apologised profusley and politely.  pointed out all the ticked boxes, apologised again, obviously I'd misinterpreted etc

obviously that wasn't good enough.  more irate messages, she'd reported me to AW, posted on the service providers forum on there etc, asked AW for my details etc etc

so.  the bottom line...  AW must have given them out.  the only way they could get any of that is from Credit card history.  you sign up with an email address only.  I've never even spoke to her.  If I had she would at best have a mobile number

As you can imagine.  I didn't sleep much last night.  major paranoia now.  more phone calls?  she gonna turn up at the house??

WTF!! ADULTWORK GAVE OUT PERSONAL DETAILS!!!

The consequences of this for me, and for everyone else I guess are fucking catastrophic

terrified if I stick her profile address up, it's gonna make matters worse.  She's not some daft young kid either.  She's a mature woman

anyone got any advice, thoughts here?

hope you were not using an android smartphone with all your details on it? Google accounts etc, geo-postion on? to conduct your request to her etc, cant see AW giving you up, unless they have a contact there to pass on personal info for a price,though i would not trust a site that is an outlet for pimps. it depends if your phone or an account has business details, that you have used or links to further details, which would allow data mining software to be used, but it seems a lot of effort.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2014, 02:15:07 PM by punk »

Online Jimmyredcab

cant see AW giving you up, unless they have a contact there to pass on personal info for a price,though i would not trust a site that is an outlet for pimps.

Surely that could be said about EVERY site that accepts prostitute advertising.   :unknown: :unknown:

Offline fredpunter

thats the whole facts as I have them.  contacting a previous punt from AW is a possibility, but I've changed phones (well sims) this year, as I do every year or so.  Never given my surname to any of them either.  I do also struggle to imagine AW would give a fuck sufficiently to give out my details.

And I was hoping there's be someone who can see the other side of the fence as it were to see what she has spouted/posted, and who might have responded. 

Still get my head around the implications.  convincing my other half maybe we should change phone numbers to get 'rid of sales' calls

been googling the email address I use to see if it pops up anywhere and racking my brains to think where else I have used it.  A lesson there to change throwaway email addresses regularly as well I guess

Ringing her crossed my mind, but is that likely to improve matters?

It would be good to find anyone that is one the other side that could have a looksie to see what she may have posted.  anyone  on good terms with any girls that might oblige?  or tried to register as a service provider to get access??

hardly fucking slept last night because of this

you haven't yet told us who she is or whether she has lots of feedback from other people .........

Offline punk

Surely that could be said about EVERY site that accepts prostitute advertising.   :unknown: :unknown:

true but it amazes me for example when people get scammed by prossies/ pimps and it comes as a shock to them, just because it on the web from  x company provider by x website name providing a 3rd party service,means that its safe. I am sure that 70% of prossies are there to make good ££ and thats it, but there is x amount out there who are looking to black mail / scam etc, joe blogg punter.

Offline ATMIV

Very confusing issue. I can't see how you get landline numbers from credit card details.
I don't know about IT but what information can be revealed from an IP address?
AW obviously have access to this as they display aliases if an individual has more than one profile.
Could a rouge AW employee be using this data to scam?
Don't know just a thought.
Banning reason: Prossie fanboy

Offline miyagi

This is truly a terrible situation...what you need to do and do now is put her AW link on here, why you ask?
So other members of the forum don't fall into the same situation at the end of the day unless you tell us here who she is we can't put her into the 'Hall of Shame' and 'One to Avoid' - so go ahead tell us who she is, she's not going to know your AW and Forum name are linked anyway...so tell us who she is

1. How much feedback do you have on your AW account, she could have contacted one of the wgs you have seen by just looking at your profile, which would then mean a wg has given out your details.

2. When you have subscribed to private galleries on AW - did you use your real credit card to make the payment (thats HOW Aw link you, how they get your REAL name, address....etc) - what we all need to do is use a VCC if we want to subsribe to a wgs private gallery!!!  By using a VCC (which you can have in any name, you remain anonymous, even when making payment on AW)

3. Make sure your email address is throw away

4. Make sure your mobile punting numb is throw away - go get a cheap paygo sim (not in your name), get a 077 number or have a look here http://voip.about.com/od/security/tp/AnonymousNumberServices.htm

5. Make sure you have 'user accounts' on your pc for each AW account you have (your linked by your IP and cookies) AW place cookies on your account, so if you login into 2 AW accounts on the same 'user account' on your pc with the same IP you are automatically linked - the wgs see your linked accounts

If you want to know more lmk

Offline Steve2


No offense intended to the OP but My Bullshit and total bollocks sensor has just had a meltdown


Offline pianodave

AW also fingerprint your browser (almost all browsers are actually unique in some way), so you need to use different ones for different accounts.

They are pretty good at linking actually, browser fingerprinting is quite an extreme measure.

You can test your browser here:

https://panopticlick.eff.org/

Offline miyagi

Lets give the OP the benefit of the doubt...we need to see this wgs AW link on here, if the OP can't do that then it could be as you say below :yahoo:

No offense intended to the OP but My Bullshit and total bollocks sensor has just had a meltdown

Online Jimmyredcab

true but it amazes me for example when people get scammed by prossies/ pimps and it comes as a shock to them, just because it on the web from  x company provider by x website name providing a 3rd party service,means that its safe. I am sure that 70% of prossies are there to make good ££ and thats it, but there is x amount out there who are looking to black mail / scam etc, joe blogg punter.

A tiny, tiny percentage.
The two major scams are bait and switch and private gallery scams, blackmail is very rare.    :hi:

Offline Dani

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thats the whole facts as I have them.  contacting a previous punt from AW is a possibility, but I've changed phones (well sims) this year, as I do every year or so.  Never given my surname to any of them either.  I do also struggle to imagine AW would give a fuck sufficiently to give out my details.

And I was hoping there's be someone who can see the other side of the fence as it were to see what she has spouted/posted, and who might have responded. 

Still get my head around the implications.  convincing my other half maybe we should change phone numbers to get 'rid of sales' calls

been googling the email address I use to see if it pops up anywhere and racking my brains to think where else I have used it.  A lesson there to change throwaway email addresses regularly as well I guess

Ringing her crossed my mind, but is that likely to improve matters?

It would be good to find anyone that is one the other side that could have a looksie to see what she may have posted.  anyone  on good terms with any girls that might oblige?  or tried to register as a service provider to get access??

hardly fucking slept last night because of this

Anyone can read the warnings on safe as you do not have to be a member to see them.  They do it this way so girls who don't want to sign up or just flick through without joining can still see the warnings section.  I can see no warnings there

However in your first post you stated she was leaving a warning on AW forum although that is not what was said in her reply to you

As for AW giving out your details that is very unlikely seeing as they don't even give out details to the Police if asked as I know, so I doubt they are going to give them to a prossie who says you upset her by asking for age play.  If anything they would have told her to take role play off her profile. 
However I notice you still have not named this woman who is obviously a risk to other punters if she is tracking them down and calling them at home.  Is there a reason why not?  I ask as none of this sounds right.  If you emailed on AW she cannot trace you, if you had no other contact with her and have never used your landline to contact any escort nor given them your name there is no possible way she can find out who you are

As for your email to her I can see nothing wrong with it however it is normally better to ask if you can send her the scenario you are after rather than just sending it in the first email as otherwise you can fall under the 'sending emails to get off' category.  You would be surprised how many men send emails detailing what they want to do and have no intention of actually booking as they send the same emails to hundreds of women as they get off on writing the scenario and sending it knowing a female will be reading it.  Its their wank material.  Strange but it happens very often so it looks as if she has lumped you in with them.

Offline miyagi

But if you have different 'user accounts' set up on windows for each AW user account you have, from my understanding they can't link you by browsers - because by having a seperate windows 'user account' for each aw profile you have...all the cookies AW place on your PC are seperate, you MUST make sure that you login into each 'user account' - clean your cookies and MAKE SURE  you have a different IP address for each AW profile you have

Fingerprint browsers is extreme but again this can be avoided - you need to get rid of flash cookies on your system!

 Disable JavaScript. Disabling JavaScript is a powerful defense against browser fingerprinting, because it cuts off the code that websites use to detect plugins, fonts, use of supercookies, etc. But this could affect your browsing experiences.

Use TorButton. It standardizes most browser characteristics and strings and can block JavaScript in the browser too. Plugins are available for browsers too.


AW also fingerprint your browser (almost all browsers are actually unique in some way), so you need to use different ones for different accounts.

They are pretty good at linking actually, browser fingerprinting is quite an extreme measure.

You can test your browser here:

https://panopticlick.eff.org/

Online Jimmyredcab

No offense intended to the OP but My Bullshit and total bollocks sensor has just had a meltdown

One way he could prove you wrong --------------------- name and shame the "lady".      :hi:

Offline fredpunter

No offense intended to the OP but My Bullshit and total bollocks sensor has just had a meltdown


I didn't want to be the first to say it  :hi:

Offline miyagi

I will write a how to open a stealth AW profile if anyone is interested?

New ip is needed, but deleting cookies/flash objects is not. AW likes to see consistency. Having separate windows accounts for each of your stealth accounts keeps your cookies separate. It actually makes you look like a normal AWuser, believe it or not.

USE GMail accounts (or whatever email application you are using). You need to disable content on your email client so that you do not display external images. AW likes to send web beacons that can potentially link you :cool:


Offline miyagi

I think its put up or shut up time for the OP - he needs to put the wgs AW on here if we are to help me, it'll also help everyone else on here to make sure she is avoided - name and shame her OP!

Offline Jay-Jay

I can understand the op's reluctance to post the link. If all this is kosher it's not us after all who is going to be on the end of a nutter's stream of phone calls to a home number she has in her possesion once she's further aggravated by being outed on here?

Jay

Offline Daffodil

Regarding the op naming her, it's a tough one. Yes it may help other punters (I'd definitely avoid), but it could expose him to more of her wrath. Often it doesn't matter how bad the review, a lot of punters who were going to see the prossie still see the prossie. Pisses me off as it is, but if I'd also put my neck on the line  :mad: At the moment he at least has this leverage. He could inform her that if she ever tries this shit again he'll make sure every punter in the UK knows her name.

Is he genuine? Don't know, but there is enough detail here to at least give him the benefit. It'd be foolish just to call bullshit.

This could be hugely important news and needs investigating.

Offline Daffodil

A tiny, tiny percentage.
The two major scams are bait and switch and private gallery scams, blackmail is very rare.    :hi:

As you keep saying, but then we also keep hearing more and more examples of it happening  :hi:

Just had a quick scan on SAAFE and cant see anything relating to this.

As bad as AW are I cant see them giving out someone's personal details. And even if they did how would they possibly have a home phone number?

Bullshit all the way on this one, might have another nomination for WotW here.

Offline Steve2

Regarding the op naming her, it's a tough one. Yes it may help other punters (I'd definitely avoid), but it could expose him to more of her wrath. Often it doesn't matter how bad the review, a lot of punters who were going to see the prossie still see the prossie. Pisses me off as it is, but if I'd also put my neck on the line  :mad: At the moment he at least has this leverage. He could inform her that if she ever tries this shit again he'll make sure every punter in the UK knows her name.

Is he genuine? Don't know, but there is enough detail here to at least give him the benefit. It'd be foolish just to call bullshit.

This could be hugely important news and needs investigating.

I'll get the popcorn then Daff. It could be a long wait

Offline Daffodil

I'll get the popcorn then Daff. It could be a long wait

Sweet for me please, and a large Coke  :drinks:

Just had a quick scan on SAAFE and cant see anything relating to this.

As bad as AW are I cant see them giving out someone's personal details. And even if they did how would they possibly have a home phone number?

Bullshit all the way on this one, might have another nomination for WotW here.

+1

My suspicions were aroused at the home phone number, although they are sometimes needed for outcalls on bookings.  In terms of mobile numbers lets say I was to delete my mobile number from my account, what's the likelyhood of AW saving it on a database? 

+1

My suspicions were aroused at the home phone number, although they are sometimes needed for outcalls on bookings.  In terms of mobile numbers lets say I was to delete my mobile number from my account, what's the likelyhood of AW saving it on a database?

Depends on their systems. I assume they will backup every evening so they could quite easily look back at the history of an account and see any and all numbers that have been associated with it.

I can't help finding it strange that after this thread has been going for quite a few posts we are still waiting, despite numerous requests, to be told who this mad woman was. Something not quite right here???


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