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Offline Jonestown

From what I have found Chlamydia is estimated at between 5% to15% chance throat to penis and Gonorrhoea at 23% to 43%  :scare: throat to penis.

Can you provide a link to the source to substantiate these figures ?

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That's a commercial testing house, not sure id put too much reliance on what their advertising blurb says.

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That's a commercial testing house, not sure id put too much reliance on what their advertising blurb says.

Found a study that puts it at 60% penis to throat and 10% throat to penis.

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Would have been more useful if you posted a link that actually quantified said risks.. it only says that oral sex is "less risky"

People really should have a look and see. From what I have found Chlamydia is estimated at between 5% to15% chance throat to penis and Gonorrhoea at 23% to 43%  :scare: throat to penis.
I did post a link -  External Link/Members Only

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Found a study that puts it at 60% penis to throat and 10% throat to penis.

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Definitely more contagious to the provider. Gonorrhoea more likely passed on via owo than chlamydia, but is very likely to be symptomatic in men ( 90% ) within a short space of time ( 2-10 days ) so often gets nipped in the bud.
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I did post a link -  External Link/Members Only

I never said you didn't post "A" link. I was saying you never provided a link to say what the actual risk is..

People,  including yourself are insinuating or out right declaring the risk from owo is negligible. Which is completely untrue. All STI's with the exception of HIV are EASILY transmitted via oral with out.

Offline sheffielder

Definitely more contagious to the provider. Gonorrhoea more likely passed on via owo than chlamydia, but is very likely to be symptomatic in men ( 90% ) within a short space of time ( 2-10 days ) so often gets nipped in the bud.

I completely agree. Other factors such as deep throat could further complicate matters and I would think greatly increase your chances of picking up the infection.

For the record I mainly partake in owo. Everyone should do there own risk vs reward analysis but people need to be aware the risk from owo is not negligible and STIs are easily spread via owo.

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I never said you didn't post "A" link. I was saying you never provided a link to say what the actual risk is..

People,  including yourself are insinuating or out right declaring the risk from owo is negligible. Which is completely untrue. All STI's with the exception of HIV are EASILY transmitted via oral with out.
You really need to learn to read what is posted, I have never said or insinuated that the risk from OWO is negligible, I said "Unprotected oral is the lowest risk, it's at the bottom of the scale".

The only other thing I have said is "to me the risk of OWO is so small it's worth it", the to me part is my opinion of the risk level and is one that I am prepared to take.

You worry about it all as much as you want and do your own thing and I will continue as I have done for many years.

BTW statistics can be, and regularly are, manipulated to show whatever suits those posting them.

The fact remains that infections through oral sex are at the very bottom of the risk scale.

Offline PumpDump

You really need to learn to read what is posted, I have never said or insinuated that the risk from OWO is negligible, I said "Unprotected oral is the lowest risk, it's at the bottom of the scale".
What scale are you working off? If unprotected oral is bottom of your scale, seems you have cut some safer sex off the scale, like protected oral, protected vaginal and protected anal sex, as well as masturbation.

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The only other thing I have said is "to me the risk of OWO is so small it's worth it", the to me part is my opinion of the risk level and is one that I am prepared to take.
And bareback sex is a risk I and others are prepared to take. We all have our own levels of acceptable risk. For you to call people idiots and stupid who have an acceptable risk you don't agree with makes you a hypocrite.

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You worry about it all as much as you want and do your own thing and I will continue as I have done for many years.
Well why don't you do your own thing and stop judging those of us who are happy to take the risk of bareback sex?


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What scale are you working off? If unprotected oral is bottom of your scale, seems you have cut some safer sex off the scale, like protected oral, protected vaginal and protected anal sex, as well as masturbation.
And bareback sex is a risk I and others are prepared to take. We all have our own levels of acceptable risk. For you to call people idiots and stupid who have an acceptable risk you don't agree with makes you a hypocrite.
Well why don't you do your own thing and stop judging those of us who are happy to take the risk of bareback sex?

IMO promoting bareback sex on here - referenced in the subject line of your most recent review - does not present the best optics for UKP

Other forums for you to be on with like minded individuals, you dont have to look too far

Why not push the boat out & be a bug chaser, you aint far off with your MO 

Whatevva you wanna do is up to you, face bothered, however IMO not something representative of UKP

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IMO promoting bareback sex on here - referenced in the subject line of your most recent review - does not present the best optics for UKP

Other forums for you to be on with like minded individuals, you dont have to look too far

Why not push the boat out & be a bug chaser, you aint far off with your MO 

Whatevva you wanna do is up to you, face bothered, however IMO not something representative of UKP
Couldn't have put it better myself.

He can't even grasp that the risk scale I'm talking about is for unprotected sexual activity as the thread title indicates.   :wacko:


Offline PumpDump

IMO promoting bareback sex on here - referenced in the subject line of your most recent review - does not present the best optics for UKP

Other forums for you to be on with like minded individuals, you dont have to look too far

Why not push the boat out & be a bug chaser, you aint far off with your MO 

Whatevva you wanna do is up to you, face bothered, however IMO not something representative of UKP

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Offline stampjones

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So what you and others are saying is that you have your point on the risk spectrum that you’re comfortable with (anything up to owo) and anyone who’s comfort point is above that is an irresponsible idiot? Dont you see how weak that argument is? To someone one step down the spectrum (ow) you could look like an irresponsible idiot. To the majority of people who only have monogamous relationships we all do! And maybe they’d be right. As you and others (probably including me) have said many times, punting is a risky business, not for the faint hearted.

So although the rules allow you to express disapproval of such activities, maybe it would make a better environment if you chose not to exercise that right. That way people who do bb would be more likely to be open about it and we could all benefit. For example guys who’s risk level includes not seeing SPs who do bb would get a much better view of exactly who those SPs are!

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So what you and others are saying is that you have your point on the risk spectrum that you’re comfortable with (anything up to owo) and anyone who’s comfort point is above that is an irresponsible idiot? Dont you see how weak that argument is? To someone one step down the spectrum (ow) you could look like an irresponsible idiot. To the majority of people who only have monogamous relationships we all do! And maybe they’d be right. As you and others (probably including me) have said many times, punting is a risky business, not for the faint hearted.

So although the rules allow you to express disapproval of such activities, maybe it would make a better environment if you chose not to exercise that right. That way people who do bb would be more likely to be open about it and we could all benefit. For example guys who’s risk level includes not seeing SPs who do bb would get a much better view of exactly who those SPs are!
There's forums that are dedicated to barebacking so why not join one of those instead of trying to promote it on here, it would make for a better environment on here if you and the others did.

Why do you think there are so many bareback avoidance threads?? or are you and the other bareback supporters too stupid to understand why it's disapproved of.

A better analogy than smoking is driving a car. If you're in a 30 limit driving at 33 or 35 mph most people wouldn't bat an eyelid, even a speed camera wouldn't pick you up at 33, drive at 60 mph and most people would call you reckless and dangerous, both are above the legal limit but one socially acceptable by the majority the other socially unacceptable by the majority.

As far as I'm concerned if members on here condemn reckless behaviour such as barebacking along with any form of boundary pushing or abuse it would improve the image of the site and take it further away from the misogynistic reputation it used to have.

BTW if anyone who only has OW wants to call me a reckless idiot for having OWO I would respect their opinion even if I didn't agree with it.
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Offline stampjones

There's forums that are dedicated to barebacking so why not join one of those instead of trying to promote it on here, it would make for a better environment on here if you and the others did.

Why do you think there are so many bareback avoidance threads?? or are you and the other bareback supporters too stupid to understand why it's disapproved of.

A better analogy than smoking is driving a car. If you're in a 30 limit driving at 33 or 35 mph most people wouldn't bat an eyelid, even a speed camera wouldn't pick you up at 33, drive at 60 mph and most people would call you reckless and dangerous, both are above the legal limit but one socially acceptable by the majority the other socially unacceptable by the majority.

As far as I'm concerned if members on here condemn reckless behaviour such as barebacking along with any form of boundary pushing or abuse it would improve the image of the site and take it further away from the misogynistic reputation it used to have.

BTW if anyone who only has OW wants to call me a reckless idiot for having OWO I would respect their opinion even if I didn't agree with it.
Im not promoting barebacking - Im promoting not calling people out for doing it and having a more live and let live attitude (which seems more in keeping with the new non-aggressive ethos you’re talking about). The fact that there are bareback avoidance threads is exactly the point Im making - they can only know what is advertised or maybe offered. If actual barebackers are comfortable talking here there is much more accurate information available to everyone. That is exactly the point Im making! Constantly jumping on fellow punters for the choices they make is just boring and ultimately reduces the information content for everyone.

By the way your car analogy is a good one but unfortunately it is more likely that society as a whole disapproves of all punting and doesnt really care about the distinctions we make on here. As far as most people are concerned we’re all doing 60 in a 30 but some of us drive petrol while some drive electric.


Online RandomGuy99

People barebacking just puts others, SSs and SPs, in the punting community at risk. All it takes is for one person with an infection and the infection spreads. The infection may be minor or life changing. The risk outweighs the reward.

If SSs and SPs act responsibly and don't bareback then we can all manage the health risks associated with punting through using condoms and being tested regularly. If you come down with an STI you take a break, get treated, get retested and then get back into it.

I am totally against barebacking.

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Im not promoting barebacking - Im promoting not calling people out for doing it and having a more live and let live attitude (which seems more in keeping with the new non-aggressive ethos you’re talking about). The fact that there are bareback avoidance threads is exactly the point Im making - they can only know what is advertised or maybe offered. If actual barebackers are comfortable talking here there is much more accurate information available to everyone. That is exactly the point Im making! Constantly jumping on fellow punters for the choices they make is just boring and ultimately reduces the information content for everyone.

By the way your car analogy is a good one but unfortunately it is more likely that society as a whole disapproves of all punting and doesnt really care about the distinctions we make on here. As far as most people are concerned we’re all doing 60 in a 30 but some of us drive petrol while some drive electric.
You are another one who is reading something I have not written, my main point throughout this whole thread, apart from thinking the OP was stupid for asking in the first place, has been the opinion put forward by the barebackers that unprotected oral carries the same level of risk as unprotected vaginal or anal sex, it doesn't, the risk is lower.

I've given my reasons why I personally think condemning bareback and any form of abuse or boundary pushing is beneficial to the site, you are quite entitled to think differently.

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It looks like this thread has given people an idea of who are the bare backers or who may be interested in pursuing it in the future

Offline sheffielder

You are another one who is reading something I have not written, my main point throughout this whole thread, apart from thinking the OP was stupid for asking in the first place, has been the opinion put forward by the barebackers that unprotected oral carries the same level of risk as unprotected vaginal or anal sex, it doesn't, the risk is lower.

I've given my reasons why I personally think condemning bareback and any form of abuse or boundary pushing is beneficial to the site, you are quite entitled to think differently.

At no point in this thread have I seen any of the barebackers say it carries the same level of risk. You are doing what you acuse others of and reading something they have not written.

As for the risk of Sti's from different sex acts its clear you understand which ones are riskier then others but to me it's also clear you have absolutely no idea what those risks are and when given peer reviewed evidence you choose to discount it. Maybe you need to educate yourself before you lecture others.

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At no point in this thread have I seen any of the barebackers say it carries the same level of risk. You are doing what you acuse others of and reading something they have not written.

As for the risk of Sti's from different sex acts its clear you understand which ones are riskier then others but to me it's also clear you have absolutely no idea what those risks are and when given peer reviewed evidence you choose to discount it. Maybe you need to educate yourself before you lecture others.
I know exactly what the risks are and as I've said many times it's up to others to educate themselves and believe what statistics they chose to believe.

Controversial post. And you are immediately attacked by the hypocrites who regularly stick their unprotected cock in to a prostitutes mouth, and lick her pussy with no protection whatsoever.

The above post shows me PumpDump believes the risks between unprotected oral and unprotected vaginal sex are equal, perhaps you missed that post or you have a different interpretation of it.

Anyway we're going round in circles you condone bareback I don't and I also think condoning bareback is detrimental to this site.

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Why do you think there are so many bareback avoidance threads?? or are you and the other bareback supporters too stupid to understand why it's disapproved of.
On the contrary it looks like you're the stupid one for not realising those threads are really used by the UTC barebackers to share details of girls offering the service. Because of the aggressive attitude of the likes of you, many members keep their barebacking activities under wraps. You're really not the brightest are you?  :lol:

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The above post shows me PumpDump believes the risks between unprotected oral and unprotected vaginal sex are equal, perhaps you missed that post or you have a different interpretation of it.


I never said that. Your either lying or stupid. I know barebacking is more risky as I said earlier. It is a risk I'm willing to take.

Do you ever back down when you're wrong or just keep digging?

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On the contrary it looks like you're the stupid one for not realising those threads are really used by the UTC barebackers to share details of girls offering the service. Because of the aggressive attitude of the likes of you, many members keep their barebacking activities under wraps. You're really not the brightest are you?  :lol:
You really don't know anything about me do you, I've said many many times on here that I think bareback avoidance threads are a bad idea because they are a readymade hotlist for the likes of you.

Not the case unfortunately, some see bareback avoidance threads as a ready made hotlist.

Try getting your facts right. 

Offline sheffielder

I know exactly what the risks are and as I've said many times it's up to others to educate themselves and believe what statistics they chose to believe.

The above post shows me PumpDump believes the risks between unprotected oral and unprotected vaginal sex are equal, perhaps you missed that post or you have a different interpretation of it.

Anyway we're going round in circles you condone bareback I don't and I also think condoning bareback is detrimental to this site.

Your just making yourself look stupid now.

He's not saying it's less risky. He's calling you a hypocrit for taking risks. You are willfully miss reading what people have put.

Where on earth have I said I condone barebacking? I don't and I believe it should be actively discouraged.  :dash:

Offline PumpDump

You really don't know anything about me do you, I've said many many times on here that I think bareback avoidance threads are a bad idea because they are a readymade hotlist for the likes of you.

In your previous post you just said they are there to show bareback is disapproved of. I think you're losing the plot.


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Try getting your facts right.
Try taking a leaf out of your own book.

This is my last reply to you. There is no point debating with you.  All I will suggest is that the owners ban any mention of bareback if they are so opposed to it.

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In your previous post you just said they are there to show bareback is disapproved of. I think you're losing the plot.

Try taking a leaf out of your own book.

This is my last reply to you. There is no point debating with you.  All I will suggest is that the owners ban any mention of bareback if they are so opposed to it.
FFS it is my personal opinion that avoidance threads are a ready made hotlist, other members see them as useful so they know who to avoid.

Last post from me on this.

I think barebackers are idiots and those who post in their defence are just as bad as it shows this site in a bad light. I thought I had made it clear that these are my own personal opinions they are not designed to reflect the opinions of the site or it's owner.

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People barebacking just puts others, SSs and SPs, in the punting community at risk. All it takes is for one person with an infection and the infection spreads. The infection may be minor or life changing. The risk outweighs the reward.

If SSs and SPs act responsibly and don't bareback then we can all manage the health risks associated with punting through using condoms and being tested regularly. If you come down with an STI you take a break, get treated, get retested and then get back into it.

I am totally against barebacking.

Absolutely. You don't know what people may be up to. Unfortunately nobody would come with a green discharge, usually the punters don't know they have got it. Maybe they saw someone only a few days before, and carry the infection into the next booking. Chlamydia symptoms may take longer like two even 3 weeks and it's 50/50 chance you will be in pain, unlike gonorrhea when most men will know something is wrong within days.

It would be also interesting to know with the odds what makes you catch it during owo as a provider, maybe depth, length of exposure, some guys have precum and some guys don't. Most will have some horny precum. I know Dean Street told me some time ago, when I was unlucky, that mouthwash can help. So I equipped myself with Listerine ( I was using it before but this time I decided to hold it longer ) and then I was unlucky again, and they told me it doesn't help. So who knows really? All you can do is test every month and hope for the best. Nobody would deliberately give you an std had they had symptoms or knew they had it.

I don't even think it's about number of people you see, you can be lucky with 30 guys and unlucky with 1. Maybe the more people you see the more likely but it's not a rule.
The only good thing is it doesn't happen very often at all which makes you believe the chances for both parties are on the lower side owo wise

Someone told me the other month that there is more barebacking now on the site, apparently 70% are British girls and the rest foreign girls. I didn't look but it's more prolific now. so there are bound to be more stds out there. I think it's because of Prep which we didn't have ten years ago.

Btw if you have unprotected bareback ( just one time ) as a woman you have 90% chance of catching gonorrhea from an infected  man and 50/50 that you won't have any symptoms so you could carry it and not know and it can harm your insides. At least from the throat it doesn't expand anywhere. I know that clinic told me once it will eventually ( but not quickly ) perish because the throat will just clear it out. 
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Ah and it's also to note that the risk of catching blood-borne diseases from oral sex is minimum, there are theories but clinics will tell you they never find such cases. Hiv isn't really passed on that way ( Dean Street told me and they are gay men all the time ).

 Syphilis less likely too. Not common amongst heterosexual community, but bisexual and gay is riskier even with owo.

It's good to get yourself vaccinated against Hep B, and possibly A as a precaution, even just with owo.

Bareback also carries high chance of high risk hpv which for a woman can be more devastating. It can lead to cancers. So as a woman I would never risk it. Always far riskier for the woman no matter what.

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Interesting post Rose_128, very insightful. Thanks for that.

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It's just good to be honest, it happened to me  a few times by giving owo over the years even with Listerine. At least it will push more people into regular ish testing. But from my own experience it really just doesn't happen very often via owo, even as a giver. Once  a year or two perhaps. Not to sound dismissive and totally get why some punters will go ow only.

 It's just to highlight the fact that women are more likely to get an std from an unprotected intercourse ( just one time ) and also less likely to have symptoms.

So if you advertise bareback you are more likely to be visited by clients who only bareback either other providers or civvies.

As a provider offering owo regularly and not doing huge numbers you may be unlucky once a year or so, sometimes longer, it's really down to luck. But if you bareback then as a woman you will be having it regularly like every few months? I wouldn't  know what the odds are but when I used to go to DSE ( now I mainly do SHL if I am active at all ) they tell me some people are there all the time. They can't say anything because it's a free country but they have to treat them every few months. So why do it. It's not like people do it for some life changing sum  if you know what I mean.
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So if you advertise bareback you are more likely to be visited by clients who only bareback either other providers or civvies.

I tend to only visit providers who don't advertise it, but provide it UTC for selected clients. I know it is still risky, but it reduces the risks  as opposed to going to a £60 Romanian who is taking loads all day.

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What you do is your choice and you will always be better off here as a bloke, I just don't understand why they would do it even covertly. I remember you gave someone 20 quid for it. Maybe they just aren't busy and feel like they have to do it I have no idea ://

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I tend to only visit providers who don't advertise it, but provide it UTC for selected clients. I know it is still risky, but it reduces the risks  as opposed to going to a £60 Romanian who is taking loads all day.

Dear God your level of delusional is off the bloody scale  :dash:

Utc or open makes no difference the utc provider is also 'taking loads all day' she's just smart enough to market herself better and charge extra for it so idiots like you think it's less risky.

Tbh I'd wager the utc providers are getting more custom than the open BB provider because the likes of you and your bug chasing comrades will punt with her rather that the open provider  :dash: :lol: :lol:

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By the way, someone mentioned the other site. That site has been closed for registrations for a couple of years and seems to be no longer maintained. So I guess it is dying a slow death and anyone who would want to join it end up here.

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I think that makes it far worse for the owo only community.

Many punters will actively avoid barebackers where advertised, and usually they have their own community and stick to their own, but if someone is so sneaky about it and offers it  by upselling or agreeing, that's pretty bad. She is more likely to have an std down below and throat than a provider who does owo only as the only risk taken.

As someone posted earlier, there would have been less stds passed on via owo if fewer barebacking took place.

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By the way, someone mentioned the other site. That site has been closed for registrations for a couple of years and seems to be no longer maintained. So I guess it is dying a slow death and anyone who would want to join it end up here.

I would guess, PD, that your recollection refers to daviemac's comment in post #165, ie 'There's forums that are dedicated to barebacking ---'.

The only one of potential interest to straight UK males that Google pointed me to was  one with the domain extension '.'net which I presume is the one you describe because they are, as you indicated, moribund.

Not, I hasten to add, that I was seeking any dodgy sexual activity. Just curious to discover if there was any street scene in my neck of the woods. Pretty sure there isn't.

I vaguely recall that there used to be a website - streetscene  something - that was dedicated to strret prostitution. That died the death too.


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I would guess, PD, that your recollection refers to daviemac's comment in post #165, ie 'There's forums that are dedicated to barebacking ---'.

The only one of potential interest to straight UK males that Google pointed me to was  one with the domain extension '.'net which I presume is the one you describe because they are, as you indicated, moribund.

Not, I hasten to add, that I was seeking any dodgy sexual activity. Just curious to discover if there was any street scene in my neck of the woods. Pretty sure there isn't.

I vaguely recall that there used to be a website - streetscene  something - that was dedicated to strret prostitution. That died the death too.
On the site I was referring to unless you are registered and logged in you can't read anything so I have no idea what's posted but on the home page you can see that all the threads have been posted on today so it looks very much active to me.

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On the site I was referring to unless you are registered and logged in you can't read anything so I have no idea what's posted but on the home page you can see that all the threads have been posted on today so it looks very much active to me.

If you google the SP and find them on the site I think you mean,  click the three vertical dots in the google results list and a cached version of the report is available.  It works in Chrome on my PC but no cached version offered on the iPad.

For clarity, I use this as part of checking out an SP before visiting, my risk profile doesn’t stretch to OWO.

 

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If you google the SP and find them on the site I think you mean,  click the three vertical dots in the google results list and a cached version of the report is available.  It works in Chrome on my PC but no cached version offered on the iPad.

For clarity, I use this as part of checking out an SP before visiting, my risk profile doesn’t stretch to OWO.
Useful info for when doing due diligence.   :thumbsup:

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It would be also interesting to know with the odds what makes you catch it during owo as a provider, maybe depth, length of exposure, some guys have precum and some guys don't. Most will have some horny precum. I know Dean Street told me some time ago, when I was unlucky, that mouthwash can help. So I equipped myself with Listerine ( I was using it before but this time I decided to hold it longer ) and then I was unlucky again, and they told me it doesn't help. So who knows really? All you can do is test every month and hope for the best. Nobody would deliberately give you an std had they had symptoms or knew they had it.

I wasn’t aware of the ‘Listerine thing’ & looks like conflicting advice even from the experts.

I use when on a booking but just to be fresh alongside the shower etc

Nowadays I only stick to a regular but of course that doesn’t work for all punters & more importantly gives no guarantees.

Very informative/interesting thread.   

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I wasn’t aware of the ‘Listerine thing’ & looks like conflicting advice even from the experts.

I use when on a booking but just to be fresh alongside the shower etc

Nowadays I only stick to a regular but of course that doesn’t work for all punters & more importantly gives no guarantees.

Very informative/interesting thread.

Yes, Dean Street once told me that mouthwash straight after can help, but there is no real study on how quickly it settles- after ten mins of exposure? One hour? Often times you don't get to the bathroom after half an hour or an hour depending on type of action. There was a research that Listerine can kill gonorrhea but they probably mean alcohol Listerine which is bad for daily use. And it really stings :/

Then they told me it doesn't help anyway.

There was also one research stating gonorrhea can get passed on via kissing. I don't for once believe it. The research was done only amongst gay and bisexual men who also engage in owo. It is not carried in the saliva otherwise every single person in the heterosexual community would have gonorrhea in their throat and down below and constant positive tests . It's just not how it's passed on. It's when the bacteria which comes out of the peehole rubs into the mucous membranes at the back of the throat.

The only way of doing things is really to only offer ow but London market is very competitive so the girls will just risk it as it's a low(er) risk activity.

There used to be a provider in Cornwall doing ow only but that's in Cornwall, there is nowhere else to go so she was very busy even with ow.

And yes even a regular can pass it on, you would have to be exclusive to one another but at least she would let you know if she had a problem ( and you wouldn't be too upset about it as you understand how the business works ).
 


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And yes even a regular can pass it on, you would have to be exclusive to one another but at least she would let you know if she had a problem ( and you wouldn't be too upset about it as you understand how the business works ).
Yes I would want to know if a problem, I’m sure regular or not we would all want to be aware.

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Yes it's important to let all contacts know. Some providers may only let owo clients know rather than ow guys as the whole point of ow is that you don't have that kind of hassle.

But in reality it's all strangers in this game, some are decent and will let you know, and some may not for fear of receiving abuse etc , so you have to just rely on yourself and get tested once in while even when just seeing a regular. Nobody would deliberately pass anything on, throat infections are asymptomatic and you may not find out until your monthly test results.

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There was also one research stating gonorrhea can get passed on via kissing. I don't for once believe it.
Thank goodness for that as to me very important in a meet obviously if there’s some sort of connection  :thumbsup:

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Yes it's important to let all contacts know. Some providers may only let owo clients know rather than ow guys as the whole point of ow is that you don't have that kind of hassle.

But in reality it's all strangers in this game, some are decent and will let you know, and some may not for fear of receiving abuse etc , so you have to just rely on yourself and get tested once in while even when just seeing a regular. Nobody would deliberately pass anything on, throat infections are asymptomatic and you may not find out until your monthly test results.

A bloke i know is a very senior hopsital consultant
Over the years he's worked in most of the different departments, incl. STDs
He's partial to a bit of punting
I was quizzing him about risk %'s

RO next to zero
Well not for @PD [he's more likely to be indulging in creampie clean up  :vomit: :scare:]

Indeed throat infections asymptomatic or they manifest themselves as a sore throat / cough
Knowing this i declined OWO from one massage burd who had a bit of a cough
It tilted things slightly in my mind despite littleWP being in charge, one of the few times he's been over-ruled  :D
Whichever STD usually stays in the mouth / throat unless some other contact
& it usually clears itself in a couple of weeks / 10 days, whereas this doesnt happen in the 'gearbox' department

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Thank goodness for that as to me very important in a meet obviously if there’s some sort of connection  :thumbsup:

Don't be silly
The connection is with your wallet
Or the SP thinks this punter is OK, i'll give some motivation for him to return
Bless  :rolleyes:

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Thank goodness for that as to me very important in a meet obviously if there’s some sort of connection  :thumbsup:
It's called acting or tolerating our presence. Some SPs are good at it.

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It's called acting or tolerating our presence. Some SPs are good at it.

Very good
Oscar material
Me likey, for the hour etc

@Brompton's punting balloon me thinks has an unexpected puncture
 :lol: