Is it worth the risk...

[Metal Geek]

...to  punt in the US? I'll be taking a business trip to the US in the not-too-distant future and I wondered if it's worth taking the risk of punting in the US given the stricter laws on prostitution. What are others experiences punting in the US.

[Diamonddog]

I considered it while on holiday , read lots on their forums where they refer to the police as "Leo" the long and the short of it  and they ( Americans ) agree punting in the USA is really dodgy and just more hassle than its worth. I posted the following on one of their forums as well and the general feeling was my own view. I was very lucky not to get arrested.

After reading the USA forums I knew it was a bad idea but I am lead by my dick not my brain  so visited an Asian Massage parlour I saw on the forum that was local.
I Walked in to be greeted by a hag about 65 years old  so I did a u turn.
As I left a Police car pulled up outside and the officer gave me a hard stare at the same time another police car did a very slow drive by.  As you can imagine I was freaking  but I had only been in the place 2 seconds so I walked into the shop next door just as if I had made a mistake the first time and walked into the wrong store. I browsed the stuff for a minute  and then walked out and away with the police guys eyes burning a hole in my back.
Visited lots of shops and a bar then went back to my hire car an hour later.


I think I had a lucky escape ! 

The police were defiantly watching the place and If I had stayed yes I would have been done.

[aerofan5]

I Have punted regularly in USA for many years now, and had a lot of fun at very reasonable prices with some great girls.

Use Wi Fi and check out Backpage or The Erotic Review, and don't go to an incall as a first meet. Incall is how most Law Enforcement (LE) use entrapment as they have to have the place wired.

This varies from state to state, so do a Google on the state laws where you are going.

I use outcalls to a hotel exclusively and have never had a problem.

[Diamonddog]

My not so nice experience was in Florida

Here in the forum if anyone wants to have a look

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[Jimmyredcab]

America is a huge place, I only have experience of Vegas, prostitution is illegal but flyers are given out in the street offering to send a girl to your room for $99 -------------- I didn't bother.   

[Jimmyredcab]

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[Loki]

the Vegas thing is a massive scam though.... the girls that get set are mingers, with minders and demand money from you.

the old 'if something looks too good to be true.......'

mind you, since you can get fucked in the strip clubs over there, it's better to just use them for hot girls...

 

[Marmalade]

The US mentality is neanderthal. Half the time is spent wondering what stupid nonsensical law you might just have broken because some dickhead in one state says its ok to turn right on a red and five miles over the state line another dickhead says it's not (On a deserted intersection at 1am who the fuck cares except mr gayboy policeman trying to demonstrate his excess testosterone?)

Sure Backpage and Erotic Review are there, but
a) you have to pay more
b) you have to jump thru hoops convincing her you aint a cop
c) you have to make her jump thru at least one or two hoops to make sure she isn't a cop doing a reverse sting
d) at the end of all that, it's still a throw of the dice as to whether she's any good
 

the attitude is so ridiculous: like thought police patrolling the streets to see if you are wearing the wrong colour bandanana that some stupid shit religious right wing prejudice culture had a vision and said it was bad.

notice they use the same rhetoric that is catching on here: "Police are cracking down on prostitutes and trafficked women, some of whom may be minors, to stamp out this vile trade. Like, 3000 prossies, 10 trafficked women, and two youngsters that got nabbed for wearing a short skirt, carrying condoms, and smiling the day before their 18th birthday.

A made-up croc of shit, in other words. Same as when they went after homosexuals or black men or any other law abiding citizens they felt prejudiced against. They would always say that the blacks,homosexuals/prostitutes "possibly included some criminals" as an excuse for harassment. (It would be strange if they didn't, given the size of the minority population.)

[JV547845]

The other problem is local sheriffs getting kick backs from jail owners, encouraging them to go after easy convictions for victimless crimes like punting.  Until I was super confident and street wise about the area I was in, I'd stick to the Nevada bunny ranches where it's legal.  They're on my bucket list after seeing them on TV anyway.  Makes you glad to live in the UK.

[Jimmyredcab]

The other problem is local sheriffs getting kick backs from jail owners, encouraging them to go after easy convictions for victimless crimes like punting.  Until I was super confident and street wise about the area I was in, I'd stick to the Nevada bunny ranches where it's legal.  They're on my bucket list after seeing them on TV anyway.  Makes you glad to live in the UK.

Grossly overpriced, OK for high rollers, no good for peasants like me.   

[aerofan5]

I have always had good experiences with US WG's, other than with young ones who seem to be very "up themselves"

The main problem now seems to be the police.

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I only use Visa and Mastercard now and go to the ATM before a punt.

[Taggart]

Personally, I wouldn't risk it. You will then considered of low moral turpitude, and wont be allowed in again, if you read the ESTA or I-94W forms.

You are also in an unfamiliar country, with a selection of stupid laws, where wire taps and scams are common place, and a range of law enforcement agencies so you dont know who's who.

On a previous visit some years back, I managed to pull a waitress, and she stayed over at my hotel after her shift, did everything except anal, and I offered her a gift of $200 for her time. On a recent trip there are small bars, sometimes proliferated by rednecks from backward states (ie: South Dakota), and the barmaids seemed to have a uniform of denim shorts, so if you are feeling lucky....?

Given that the US is one of the countries biggest producers of porn to which a blind eye is turned, probably dues to the backhanders, their stance on prostitution is parochial in comparison.

Las Vegas carries no interest for me, Nevada is the biggest scam state going, and there is nothing about it that appeals in the slightest.

Now, if you want fun and a smoke, dont forget that in Colorado cannabis is now legal.

[Jimmyredcab]

Las Vegas carries no interest for me, Nevada is the biggest scam state going, and there is nothing about it that appeals in the slightest.

Vegas is my favourite place on the planet, not for hookers though.   

[Marmalade]

America is a huge place, I only have experience of Vegas, prostitution is illegal but flyers are given out in the street offering to send a girl to your room for $99 -------------- I didn't bother.   

As Jimmy says, it's a huge place. Any info we give each other is necessarily a keyhole view. One encouraging experience I've had twice (at unrelated times and in unrelated cities) is basically going down the 'hood' - an idea that will doubtless freak most people out as you have to know or be with people who know how to stay reasonably safe. But then there's some mind-blowing experience to be had, usually with some cute black chick of course (though Asians have their enclaves) and at a low price with full TLC/GFE. There are plenty of places in the USA untouched by law unless there's some major shootout or kidnap. Whereas in the nice white downtown cities, sex, like nearly everything else is monetized beyond belief.

[webpunter]

Had a play in an asian massage parlor in Vegas.  Was fine.  Loads of them as you head through Chinatown.  Not that many girlies in each one.  Negotiated a deal for an hour with cum twice.  Started off with oily massage & HJ.  Then onto a soapy one in the next room.  Took my stuff with me - which was only rental car keys & cash.  So not a lot to lose or get stolen.  An ok bird - not quite what you see on the tube links though.  In Vegas some massage type indies.  For US$200-300 for the hour.  Went to the asian parlor middle of the day - maybe not best to be walking even in the car parks late at night.  No sight of any rozzers - i could have been just lucky

[Marmalade]

The AMP (Asian Massage Parlour) or stripclub-with-extras are good workarounds. Remember you are technically giving a "tip" for the legit massage or private dance while actually enjoying sexual services. There's a Rubs website to guide punters between ones that give extras and ones that don't or use the USA version of ISG. Still paying through the nose though.

[Marmalade]

Good strip clubs and AMPs will offer full sex but not that cheap (posher ones more expensive of course). Here's an amusing add-on for guys who down't want to go all the way (not tried them but they are well-reviewed in the U.S.)
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[Taggart]

PMSL. Only in America.

Not seen that on Dragon's Den 
Not sure I'd want to walk out of the lap dancing club with sticky pants.

[Marmalade]

PMSL. Only in America.

Not seen that on Dragon's Den 
Not sure I'd want to walk out of the lap dancing club with sticky pants.

From what I can gather, that's part of the idea. The latex is supposed to make it more comfortable, complete with slippy dong-tube, while being waterproof to stop 'leakage.' Not a brilliant idea but not a terrible one either. Many many years ago I went to an area, I think it was on the east coast of Virginia, and there were some damn hot lapdance joints. The craft wee Chinese dancer kept working me for three dances getting me incredibly close as she grinded away while I fingered her fanny, but the dance would always end just before any 'accident' happened. Thoroughly frustrated I got in the car and drove to an even seedier joint. Sort of place where you hope your car will still be there when you come out. Heavy security on the door. Bought a dance and the wee stripper just got straight down to business, sliding up and down with the express intention (you could tell) of making me jizz. Quick 'thank yous' and pleased the exit down to my car was quite dark!

[webpunter]

On the lappy front then had a 1/2hr VIP in Leeds [£100 - WTF !]
Full on bumpy grindy stuff with a very fit bird with kissing too - she must have liked me.  LOL
Finally got there with 'T minus 30 secs' - phew
Took a bit of concentration [great thoughts throughout]
She did hop off a bit quick though at the end
Sharp exit to the bogs & a clean up with the loo roll
Left soon after - with small damp patch.  WGAF
Then nice Zzzzz's

[Jonny888]

Wouldn't try in America. Been once, didn't fancy the risks. Not worth it either, as Americans arn't often great lookers in my opinion.

Plus, if you want to try your luck, hit up a bar and show off that English accent. Could work.