Prostitution to be banned in Canada, sign of the times?

[Matium]

Prostitution is to be banned in Canada, with the clamour for the Nordic Model to be introduced into Britain, is it a sign of the times for the increasing hostility towards prostitution in Europe?

[Jimmyredcab]

Prostitution is to be banned in Canada, with the clamour for the Nordic Model to be introduced into Britain, is it a sign of the times for the increasing hostility towards prostitution in Europe?

Prostitution can never be banned anywhere, it can be made illegal but that is a totally different thing.   

The "War on drugs" has been lost, any similar war on prostitution would also be lost.   

[Matium]

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[Watts.E.Dunn]

Makes me wonder the mindset of some of these politicos, they sort the problem in Germany and other civilised nations why can't they do it there?.

They'll never ban it as long as they have holes up their stupid arses:!<..

[CBPaul]

It's one thing for politicians to garner favour by banning something, it's another thing entirely to enforce it.

Are prossies really going to stop working just because it becomes illegal ? Do the authorities have the ability to enforce a ban on prostitution ? - I think that's no to both.

Apparently it is an offense to use a mobile whilst driving - didn't stop some twat nearly driving into the side of me this morning because he thought he could drive and text at the same time.

[Ben4454]

I pay a WG for her time. Anything we do inbetween is between us. How will they prove intent?

[myothernameis]

I pay a WG for her time. Anything we do inbetween is between us. How will they prove intent?

I often wonder how they would enforce this, exactly how do the police prove you have paid for sex

[Ben4454]

I read somewhere that the way they will enforce it is that it will be illegal to pay a prostitute for sex who is controlled by a pimp. Even if you are not aware and she tells you she is not controlled by a pimp it will be illegal and you will be charged.

Example - You go to Adultwork meet said female and do the deed. She tells you she is not controlled and has no pimp. In reality she is controlled and has a pimp. You still get charged even though you did not think she had one.

[Taggart]

And who will carry out the enforcement?

The police are woefully inadequate and will be focussed on fighting the war againts terrorism as that's the greatest risk to the population. Prostitution is low level stuff. They cant even find resources to investigate burgulary, with is far more intrusive to the public.

Despite numbers of police rising in past years, all police forces mow face financial cutbacks, and as most of us will have noticed, there are few, if any, police patrols on major A roads and motorways. So, if it became illegal, how would it be policed? Have a plod outside every hotel, or whore's house?

 

[Jimmyredcab]

I pay a WG for her time. Anything we do inbetween is between us. How will they prove intent?

If you ever submitted that defence in a court of law you would lose, no doubt at all.   

[Ben4454]

They would need to prove I had INTENT on paying for sex. Simply walking in with a wad of cash does not mean I am paying for sex. So yes it would be difficult as they would need to prove I contacted said person for sex. Many smart escorts also state that any monies handed over is for time and companionship. The courts would need to secure evidence and there wouldn't be any..

I guess the only evidences would be if  you were acquiring about services over the phone/E-mail or simply was asked to bring a condom along with you.

[Jimmyredcab]

They would need to prove I had INTENT on paying for sex. Simply walking in with a wad of cash does not mean I am paying for sex. So yes it would be difficult as they would need to prove I contacted said person for sex.

It will be their job to prove I am guilty - not my job to prove I am innocent.

Nonsense.
If that were the case they could never prosecute agencies or pimps, they could all say the men were paying for time and not sexual services.   

[Ben4454]

If they prosecuted pimps and agencies than evidence was secured that they were a brothel selling sex and a pimp controlling prostitutes selling sex. They couldn't prosecute them by default.

Lets say I decide to get a counselor for her time and advice. Many counselors operate in this building and controlled by a boss. We end up having sex. Have I just committed a crime of being in a brothel?

[smiths]

It's one thing for politicians to garner favour by banning something, it's another thing entirely to enforce it.

Are prossies really going to stop working just because it becomes illegal ? Do the authorities have the ability to enforce a ban on prostitution ? - I think that's no to both.

Apparently it is an offense to use a mobile whilst driving - didn't stop some twat nearly driving into the side of me this morning because he thought he could drive and text at the same time.

Absolutely right. Having a law criminalising all punters here will i imagine put some off who wouldnt take the risk punting but it would be more about this than actually nicking punters.

Its already been proved that there is a huge difference between having a law regarding prostitution and the police choosing to enforce it with the street scene and brothels. Both illegal yet both continue in many areas.

The police would need vast resources to nick punters punting with off/street Indies.

[eyeseebee]

My neighbour had his house burgled and car stolen one night 2 weeks ago. The police have given him a crime number to give to the insurance people but have not been out to the property at all. They are over stretched as it is, so I couldn't see them putting too much resource into establishing if the girl I just paid to spend an hour with me was selling her time or selling her body.

[Third Man]

N Ireland have been going thru the possibllty recently of criminalising buying sex, as scotland did last year in a move that was defeated in the scottish parliament. I dont know exactly how far its go in NI but in the Parliament documents its been mentioned that the only way to prove anything is by telephone intercepts. Also i think i read thats how its done in loony sweden.  Are they really going to station a copper outside every WG house in the uk?

[MDB72]

I guess it will depend on what the legislation says and what it wants to prohibit. There are always ways round legislation and it also depends on how much will there is to enforce it. Prohibition in America was a classic example of the problems of stopping the supply of something that there is a demand for. The problem with making punting illegal is that it could encourage providers to go underground - risks of exploitation, trafficking etc. At the other end there might be very expensive providers who keep themselves low key. There may not be a scene that we have of indie and agency. But on the good side there is an election looming. Any legislation will not be a priority for parliamentary time. Any changes are several years down the line and by no means certain.

[gorge]

Fucking stupid laws. We are only on this earth once. Why does everyone in power think they know best and want to control us? - especially when a lot of them are up to it! If a girl wants to earn some cash and i'm willing to pay where's the problem?  What we need is a revolution ...

[smiths]

Fucking stupid laws. We are only on this earth once. Why does everyone in power think they know best and want to control us? - especially when a lot of them are up to it! If a girl wants to earn some cash and i'm willing to pay where's the problem?  What we need is a revolution ...

Its the old "do as we say, not as we do" that those that have shaped and passed laws throughout history have tried to impose on the rest of us.

[Jimmyredcab]

I am still waiting for the police to stop people talking on their mobile phone while driving.   

[Ben4454]

If a female wants to sell her body as long as she is not harming anyone in the process or looking for customers in public places like walking the streets why should the government infringe on someones freedom like that  ?

Currently there are many people who are dying from lung cancer and other illnesses attributed to alcohol and nicotine but are these things made illegal ? Of course not.. these things financially benefit the government....

[Happylad]

I seem to recall that the Canada`s neighbour on the North American sub-continent introduced "Prohibition" on the sale of alcoholic beverages from 1920 to 1933. The Canadian brewers and distillers made small fortunes from supplying and shipping their products across the border to "speakeasies", in USA whose locations were apparently known to everybody but the authorities.

May we now expect to see the entrepreneurs of the USA sending busloads of Pro$$ies in the opposite direction to brothels in Canada whose locations are known to everybody but the Mounties, while a canadian version of Elliot Ness and his gang of enforcers go around smashing up the no longer operating parlours?