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Offline RandomGuy99

£200 for me, a big improvement. Two prizes of £100, also rare for me.
But you can see from the table below that the majority of the prizes are of lower value.


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They've changed the odds to 1 in 21,000. They're also increasing the number of £100,000 prizes up to 90 from 77.

If you have £50K, then you could win 2 prizes a month.

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If you have £50K, then you could win 2 prizes a month.

You could. Or none, or 10, or...

Offline WASA38

They've changed the odds to 1 in 21,000. They're also increasing the number of £100,000 prizes up to 90 from 77.

If you have £50K, then you could win 2 prizes a month.

At the expense of the £25 prizes; number will fall from 1.7 million to 1.06 million in September.

Presumably, therefore, the actual number of prizes will fall. Disappointing for holders with a  smallish number of bonds.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2023, 05:04:41 pm by WASA38 »

Offline RandomGuy99

At the expense of the £25 prizes; number will fall from 1.7 million to 1.06 million in September.

Presumably, therefore, the actual number of prizes will fall. Disappointing for holders with a  smallish number of bonds.
Everyone has the same odds of winning.

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At the expense of the £25 prizes; number will fall from 1.7 million to 1.06 million in September.

Presumably, therefore, the actual number of prizes will fall. Disappointing for holders with a  smallish number of bonds.

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August - 5,516,739 prizes including 1,700,728 @ £25
Estimated for September - 5,526,317 prizes including 1,703,721 @ £25


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If that's newer than the one I posted then it's only good news. Less £25 prizes but more prizes in all the higher amounts (except £1 million) and 269k more prizes overall.

Offline RandomGuy99

If that's newer than the one I posted then it's only good news. Less £25 prizes but more prizes in all the higher amounts (except £1 million) and 269k more prizes overall.
It's from Martin Lewis. Not sure why both NS&I and Martin have "estimated number of prizes". Shouldn't they know for sure how many prizes of different values will be issued?

Offline lostandfound

It's from Martin Lewis. Not sure why both NS&I and Martin have "estimated number of prizes". Shouldn't they know for sure how many prizes of different values will be issued?

If the prize fund is based on a percentage of the bonds held then presumably it will depend on how many bonds are bought and sold between now and the September draw taking place?

Offline WASA38

Everyone has the same odds of winning.

Obviously. But if the number of £25 prizes is substantially reduced then the small holder is increasingly likely to draw a complete blank in a single month whilst the big holder is likely to win something although a fewer actual number.

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Obviously. But if the number of £25 prizes is substantially reduced then the small holder is increasingly likely to draw a complete blank in a single month whilst the big holder is likely to win something although a fewer actual number.

There are more prizes in the draw so every bond has an increased chance of winning.

Offline WASA38

There are more prizes in the draw so every bond has an increased chance of winning.

Point accepted; my mistake. Should have looked at the full table before posting.

The total payout anticipated for September works out as an increase of 16.4 % compared with August (£470 million from £404 million )

I find it interesting that half of the total payout is in £1k prizes . The payout to the two £2 million winners represents a mere 0.5%.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2023, 08:57:19 pm by WASA38 »

Offline RandomGuy99

Premium Bonds winning numbers - September  2023 External Link/Members Only

Someone with £8000 of bonds has won £1M!!!

And someone with £800 worth has won £10,000

None of them are me 😭
« Last Edit: September 01, 2023, 01:28:55 pm by RandomGuy99 »

Offline RandomGuy99

And someone with £5 won £50,000

£50 won £100,000

£25 won £100,000

They'll be some parties tonight


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And someone with £5 won £50,000

£50 won £100,000

£25 won £100,000

They'll be some parties tonight

Winning numbers are published tomorrow, 2nd September

Offline RandomGuy99

Winning numbers are published tomorrow, 2nd September
No, the big winners are announced today. The others are available today

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No, the big winners are announced today. The others are available today

So how much have you won this month ?

Offline RandomGuy99

So how much have you won this month ?
I use their app to find out and there is a 1 day delay before the results are published on there, so I don't know yet. Probably if you use the app at 1 minute after midnight tonight you'll see what you've won.

If you use the link I posted you can see details of the smaller prizes too but the page takes a long time to load as it's a long list of prizes.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2023, 02:22:25 pm by RandomGuy99 »

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I won a grand total of £50

I'm cashing mine in and putting the cash in a savings account which pays interest every month.

Offline Darren101

£50 only this month.  Better than nothing.  Just over £2K over the last 6 months in prizes so I’m buying more!

Offline Squire Haggard

Premium Bonds winning numbers - September  2023 External Link/Members Only

Someone with £8000 of bonds has won £1M!!!

And someone with £800 worth has won £10,000

None of them are me 😭

A block of £8000 won £1m, but their total holding is £30,244

Someone in Australia  with £5 worth of bonds won £50,000, and their total holding is £117. It will be a surprise for them, as I doubt they will be checking them each month. Since they were bought in Jan 68 I wonder if they can be traced.


Offline robsmith149

Won nothing on the full holding, that makes only £150 won in the last 3 months, utter crap.

Offline NewGuy89

£50 for me this month on a full holding

Offline Pillowtalk

Won nothing on the full holding, that makes only £150 won in the last 3 months, utter crap.

National Savings are offering a one year fixed rate bond at 6.2%. On £50k that would give you over £3k interest.

Offline WASA38

National Savings are offering a one year fixed rate bond at 6.2%. On £50k that would give you over £3k interest.

Though effectively £1.8k if you're in the 40% tax band, ie 3.72% . The average return on premium bonds is now 4% and is untaxed. . But obviously you need luck on your side whereas the return on the bond is certain.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2023, 08:58:22 pm by WASA38 »

Offline RandomGuy99

Though effectively £1.8k if you're in the 40% tax band, ie 3.72% . The average return on premium bonds is now 4% and is untaxed. . But obviously you need luck on your side whereas the return on the bond is certain.
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« Last Edit: September 02, 2023, 09:24:52 pm by RandomGuy99 »

Offline Malvolio

Those odds don't look right - how can it be as low as 1 in 2089 for people (and I suspect there are a million of them) who have the full amount invested? 

Offline RandomGuy99

Those odds don't look right - how can it be as low as 1 in 2089 for people (and I suspect there are a million of them) who have the full amount invested?
I was wondering about that and why I hadn't had me £1M yet. The cheque must have got lost in the post.

Those tables came from the moneysavingsexpert site.

Offline robsmith149

Those odds don't look right - how can it be as low as 1 in 2089 for people (and I suspect there are a million of them) who have the full amount invested?
Ther are wrong, 000 missing, chance of winning million with £50k holding is 2 million to one.

Offline RandomGuy99

Ther are wrong, 000 missing, chance of winning million with £50k holding is 2 million to one.
I checked with the postman this morning.  He didn't have a £1M cheque for me. He is going to check at the depot for me. Maybe tomorrow

Offline Harry Monk

I checked with the postman this morning.  He didn't have a £1M cheque for me. He is going to check at the depot for me. Maybe tomorrow

Why bother the Postman, just have it set up so they pay it directly into whichever account you want. Check on the results app on the 4th of the month and bingo ! Or whatever one might exclaim at the time.

If it comes by post(why would ya ) it usually arrives towards the end of the month = snail mail

Offline RandomGuy99

Why bother the Postman, just have it set up so they pay it directly into whichever account you want. Check on the results app on the 4th of the month and bingo ! Or whatever one might exclaim at the time.

If it comes by post(why would ya ) it usually arrives towards the end of the month = snail mail
Don't they send you one of those massive 8 ft long by 4 tall high cheques?

I hope they don't fold it to put it through the letterbox or throw it over the gate.

How do you pay one of those in at the bank?   

I don't think it will fit through the slot at the cashier's desk.

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£150 this month, same as last month.

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Offline Munter84

I checked with the postman this morning.  He didn't have a £1M cheque for me. He is going to check at the depot for me. Maybe tomorrow

I'm sure your post was at least a bit facaetious, but just to be a pedant, I think NS&I visit you in person to deliver a jackpot win, rather than sending it in the post.

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£150 this month £275 last month.
Biggest win ever was £1000

We live in hope

Offline RandomGuy99

£2,000 for me this month. Finally.

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first month using premium bonds and got £100

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Offline Darren101

Only 50 squid.  Better than nothing