uk-women-forced-into-survival-sex-by-cost-of-living-crisis

[Bat]

I am not a fan of Punting 2022, but stop over reacting ! It's a massive step from stating on a forum that he wants sex with the woman, to actually raping her. Get some perspective for fuck's sake !

We clearly read things from a different perspective. His comment, when taking into account his earlier argumentative stance, appeared clearly threatening to me. It came across as someone trying to use sex as a weapon against an individual whose opinions he disagreed with.

It still makes my skin crawl thinking of what he said and the context in which he said it. . .

[alabama1]

We clearly read things from a different perspective. His comment, when taking into account his earlier argumentative stance, appeared clearly threatening to me. It came across as someone trying to use sex as a weapon against an individual whose opinions he disagreed with.

It still makes my skin crawl thinking of what he said and the context in which he said it. . .

Chill out a bit mate. It seems to me you are a newbie trying to make an impact. Stop being a drama queen. Your dramatic bat image says a lot about you. 

[Bat]

Chill out a bit mate. It seems to me you are a newbie trying to make an impact. Stop being a drama queen. Your dramatic bat image says a lot about you. 

I don’t understand why I would have any wish to “make an impact”. My initials (in my work environment where I use a different name for professional reasons) happens to be BAT, hence the bat logo. It was simply the first image that came up from a Google image search for my initials 

I, and it seems quite a few other people, found the comment referred to as offensive and threatening. Of course, based on his other posts, it seems pretty clear it wasn’t anything he might actually have considered trying to achieve but it feels very creepy / stalky to me.

Sorry if this opinion offends you, it’s simply how it came across to me.

[Cheshuk]

I am not a fan of Punting 2022, but stop over reacting ! It's a massive step from stating on a forum that he wants sex with the woman, to actually raping her. Get some perspective for fuck's sake !

+1

I read it like Alabama and ILO seem to

[chadpitt]

Wrong!  Most are driven by money, by hook or by crook, much like most people irrespective of gender identity driven by need (and greed) in a money-driven society.  You need to rework your assessment of SPs.  Plenty of them have plans and goals serviced by their servicing, that some may (over-)indulge in luxury excess along the way is perhaps understandable given the shit they have to put up with from punters.

Any up (or down) tick in a time series of complex data can have many transient and persistent influences.  We currently have a lot of transient noise messing with the read for a longer term trend but the policy and infrastructure decisions being enacted or neglected aren't particularly encouraging.

Most are driven to get the big fish suckers willing to pay loads and then short change them on time and services. To a lesser extent there are mediocre ones but they are less common and the great ones are increasingly rare.

For example look at this shyster

External Link/Members Only

Size 16 and charging £200. Oh and CIM is an extra £60.

[datwabbit]

Any up (or down) tick in a time series of complex data can have many transient and persistent influences.  We currently have a lot of transient noise messing with the read for a longer term trend but the policy and infrastructure decisions being enacted or neglected aren't particularly encouraging.

Can you explain?

[pbrown355]

Do you really want to read an explanation?

[Hotdogboy88]

I am not a fan of Punting 2022, but stop over reacting ! It's a massive step from stating on a forum that he wants sex with the woman, to actually raping her. Get some perspective for fuck's sake !

Agree with you mate.

[LLPunting]

Chill out a bit mate. It seems to me you are a newbie trying to make an impact. Stop being a drama queen. Your dramatic bat image says a lot about you. 

His and your take on the simp and your characterisation of his action are all personal and individual opinion.  You very much live in a glass house.
As to the simp in question his prior behaviour and pronouncements on the board do not paint him in a good light.  Whilst he may not have been insinuating a threat of criminal action odds are not good that he meant well.

[LLPunting]

Can you explain?

Far better explanations from credible, knowledgeable sources available on Web.  Probably take no more discerning ability that researching a punt.

[hairdownthere]

Most are driven to get the big fish suckers willing to pay loads and then short change them on time and services. To a lesser extent there are mediocre ones but they are less common and the great ones are increasingly rare.

For example look at this shyster

External Link/Members Only

Size 16 and charging £200. Oh and CIM is an extra £60.

So how much would you charge for some potentially fat, smelly, bald, ugly, handsy stranger to stick their dick in you? 

She is charging what she charges, what she values her time at, and some people may find what she is offering right up their street.

You need to get over what SP's charge

[Doc Holliday]

I am not a fan of Punting 2022, but stop over reacting ! It's a massive step from stating on a forum that he wants sex with the woman, to actually raping her. Get some perspective for fuck's sake !

Overreacting maybe, but it was the intention behind the comments rather than the actual content. His post was 'menacing'. He never intended to have sex with her, but instead threatened that he could if he wished to.

There is a fundamental difference though in that if I had an online spat with you and threatened to 'pay you a visit', you would just laugh at me, because we are two anonymous individuals on a forum and it is highly unlikely that I could do so. That does not apply to an SP where such threats could be carried out and that is why it is menacing.

Most of all though it is just plain stupid given his record on here.

[alabama1]

Overreacting maybe, but it was the intention behind the comments rather than the actual content. His post was 'menacing'. He never intended to have sex with her, but instead threatened that he could if he wished to.

There is a fundamental difference though in that if I had an online spat with you and threatened to 'pay you a visit', you would just laugh at me, because we are two anonymous individuals on a forum and it is highly unlikely that I could do so. That does not apply to an SP where such threats could be carried out and that is why it is menacing.

Most of all though it is just plain stupid given his record on here.

I think most members on here are aware of this, so why do you feel the need to preach to the converted. Or are you just after some more 'likes' ?

[sensualencounter]

I think most members on here are aware of this, so why do you feel the need to preach to the converted. Or are you just after some more 'likes' ?

You seem to be going rogue. Are you okay hun?

[finn5555]

Yes there are women who see prostitution as their way out of poverty. While they may choose to sell themselves, it is economic necessity that drives them. some are unable to get jobs that work for them both hours wise and salary wise and they are sometimes the only bread winners in the family.

but in reality women become prossies for a whole plethora of different reasons.

The headline news "uk-women-forced-into-survival-sex-by-cost-of-living-crisis" is nothing new and is just sensationalism by the media.

[datwabbit]

Yes there are women who see prostitution as their way out of poverty. While they may choose to sell themselves, it is economic necessity that drives them. some are unable to get jobs that work for them both hours wise and salary wise and they are sometimes the only bread winners in the family.

but in reality women become prossies for a whole plethora of different reasons.

The headline news "uk-women-forced-into-survival-sex-by-cost-of-living-crisis" is nothing new and is just sensationalism by the media.

Especially as the readers can do fuck all about it except go "oh dear oh dear"

[Lou2019]

Yes there are women who see prostitution as their way out of poverty. While they may choose to sell themselves, it is economic necessity that drives them. some are unable to get jobs that work for them both hours wise and salary wise and they are sometimes the only bread winners in the family.

but in reality women become prossies for a whole plethora of different reasons.

The headline news "uk-women-forced-into-survival-sex-by-cost-of-living-crisis" is nothing new and is just sensationalism by the media.

Glad to see you back finn5555 where have you been !

[chadpitt]

So how much would you charge for some potentially fat, smelly, bald, ugly, handsy stranger to stick their dick in you? 

She is charging what she charges, what she values her time at, and some people may find what she is offering right up their street.

You need to get over what SP's charge

She can say no. Setting high prices doesn't discourage ugly men, it's ridiculous to think charging more is the way to get good clientele. How about offer good services at reasonable prices whilst not being a tattooed land whale.

[hairdownthere]

She can say no. Setting high prices doesn't discourage ugly men, it's ridiculous to think charging more is the way to get good clientele. How about offer good services at reasonable prices whilst not being a tattooed land whale.

And again you go on about prices, just because she is a 'land whale' why should she lower her prices?  For all you know the services she offers could be better than you've ever had?

So, I ask again, what would you charge?  What you would charge to let any stranger stick their dick in you?

[Hotdogboy88]

She can say no. Setting high prices doesn't discourage ugly men, it's ridiculous to think charging more is the way to get good clientele. How about offer good services at reasonable prices whilst not being a tattooed land whale.

Haha. You made laugh out loud. Awesome. 

[Cheshuk]

What you would charge to let any stranger stick their dick in you?

You thinking of booking   jokes aside, i'm not sure it's a fair comparison for a straight man (assuming). Maybe women he finds unattractive would be more fair

[willie loman]

i can only think of two periods in the last 100 years when economic circumstances drove women into prostitution , the end of the second world war, especially in germany, and the collapse of the soviet union and the end of communism.

[daviemac]

And again you go on about prices, just because she is a 'land whale' why should she lower her prices?  For all you know the services she offers could be better than you've ever had?

So, I ask again, what would you charge?  What you would charge to let any stranger stick their dick in you?

Yet again we have someone making the most ridiculous comparison. Women are different to men both physically and psychologically, no man can say what he would do if he were a woman.

Another very simple thing is men need to be stimulated in order to perform, women only need a tube of lube.

[chadpitt]

And again you go on about prices, just because she is a 'land whale' why should she lower her prices?  For all you know the services she offers could be better than you've ever had?

So, I ask again, what would you charge?  What you would charge to let any stranger stick their dick in you?

I'm gonna go on a limb and say someone charging extra for cim will not be that great. But you can see her and prove me wrong.

What you charge inevitably is effected by supply/demand, competition and who you're willing to see. Right now with cost of living, demand will be lower.

[Doc Holliday]

I think most members on here are aware of this, so why do you feel the need to preach to the converted. Or are you just after some more 'likes' ?

Oh dear. You should never let your dislike of another member result in childish posting. You clearly have issues with me for some reason, so please feel free to PM me and discuss it as adults 

[paul_tall_]

I'm gonna go on a limb and say someone charging extra for cim will not be that great. But you can see her and prove me wrong.

What you charge inevitably is effected by supply/demand, competition and who you're willing to see. Right now with cost of living, demand will be lower.

I'm not really sure why it bothers you so much. She obviously gets clients that are willing to pay her prices, its completely up to her and what she has as a pricing structure.

[akauya]

Most are driven to get the big fish suckers willing to pay loads and then short change them on time and services. To a lesser extent there are mediocre ones but they are less common and the great ones are increasingly rare.

For example look at this shyster

External Link/Members Only

Size 16 and charging £200. Oh and CIM is an extra £60.

She can say no. Setting high prices doesn't discourage ugly men, it's ridiculous to think charging more is the way to get good clientele. How about offer good services at reasonable prices whilst not being a tattooed land whale.

Not entirely sure what's bothering you.

Is it the fact that you fancy the "land whale," as you call her, and can't afford her prices?
Or are you offended that a woman you don't fancy has the temerity to sell/rent body at whatever price she wants?

After all, if you don't fancy her just move on to one you do. I'm sure there are plenty of punters out there who are into BBWs and who may think her prices are reasonable. If the "land whale" is not your type and doesn't affect your life or your punting hobby why are you offended by her, surely you can't be such a snowflake that you're offended by someone who doesn't affect you in any way?

[IndigoRocks]

You thinking of booking   jokes aside, i'm not sure it's a fair comparison for a straight man (assuming). Maybe women he finds unattractive would be more fair

Not really - there’s an abundance of straight for pay and gay for pay in this industry.

It’s not really valid to assume anyone’s sexual orientation is particularly relevant to the job… plenty of lesbians sucking cock (and straight men sucking cock too).

[finn5555]

and straight men sucking cock too

Not strictly true they would be classed as bisexual men 

[IndigoRocks]

Not strictly true they would be classed as bisexual men 

No they wouldn’t. They’re not sexually interested in men anymore than the lesbians doing this job are.

It’s just a job. Sexual orientation is irrelevant.

[finn5555]

No they wouldn’t. They’re not sexually interested in men anymore than the lesbians doing this job are.

It’s just a job. Sexual orientation is irrelevant.

But you claim straight men suck cock 

They wouldn’t be straight

[IndigoRocks]

But you claim straight men suck cock 

They wouldn’t be straight

Why are you focusing on the men and not the women who are gay? There are plenty of lesbians who are very clear they have no sexual attraction to men but do the job… because it’s a job.

If the men would never suck or go near another cock in the civvi world then why are you saying they are bi?

[finn5555]

Why are you focusing on the men and not the women who are gay? There are plenty of lesbians who are very clear they have no sexual attraction to men but do the job… because it’s a job.

If the men would never suck or go near another cock in the civvi world then why are you saying they are bi?

No I am refuting your claim that straight men suck cock 

[cunnyhunt]

If the men would never suck or go near another cock in the civvi world then why are you saying they are bi?

A straight man would not suck cock.  He would have Bi tendencies to be able to do so.

[IndigoRocks]

No I am refuting your claim that straight men suck cock 

… in your opinion… which I disagree with. You’ve obviously failed to address my point about lesbians working again too … I wonder why.


I understand it’s a hard concept for people in the civvi world to grasp.

The industry just desensitises you to sex with certain demographics you would never encounter sexually in the civvi world.

You’re entitled to your opinion… I just disagree.

[MissWolf]

No I am refuting your claim that straight men suck cock 

She's not saying straight men suck cock she's saying....straight men suck cock for money there is a difference 

[IndigoRocks]

She's not saying straight men suck cock she's saying....straight men suck cock for money there is a difference 

Exactly- thank you for articulating that better than me.

[finn5555]

… in your opinion… which I disagree with. You’ve obviously failed to address my point about lesbians working too … I wonder why.


I understand it’s a hard concept for people in the civvi world to grasp.

The industry just desensitises you to sex with certain demographics you would never encounter sexually in the civvi world.

You’re entitled to your opinion… I just disagree.

OK let me clear in what I’m saying …

If a man or a woman has sexual liaisons with someone of the same sex (be that paid or for free) then they are bisexual simple as that.

You cannot dismiss it based on the fact you sell sex.

And yes your entitled to your opinion of course.

[Cheshuk]

Not really - there’s an abundance of straight for pay and gay for pay in this industry.

It’s not really valid to assume anyone’s sexual orientation is particularly relevant to the job… plenty of lesbians sucking cock (and straight men sucking cock too).

The majority of escorts are likely not gay for pay, anomalies/minorities don't discredit an argument

[finn5555]

She's not saying straight men suck cock she's saying....straight men suck cock for money there is a difference 

Then on that basis they are not straight they are bisexual 

[Cheshuk]

If the men would never suck or go near another cock in the civvi world then why are you saying they are bi?

I agree with the sp's on this, straight men are not bi if they're only gay for pay

[IndigoRocks]

You’re confusing sexual orientation with completing a job.

Gay and straight for pay is far from an anomaly in the sex industry… I thought it would be more well known and accepted her tbh.

Just because you guys couldn’t personally do it, doesn’t mean it isn’t a thing.

[finn5555]

I agree with the sp's on this, straight men are not bi if they're only gay for pay

Maybe you due agree with them, but makes no sense!

A guy sucking dick is (in my opinion) bisexual no matter what the dynamic.

[IndigoRocks]

Maybe you due agree with them, but makes no sense!

A guy sucking dick is (in my opinion) bisexual no matter what the dynamic.

Try telling a lesbian in this industry she’s really bi… I dare you 

[finn5555]

Try telling a lesbian in this industry she’s really bi… I dare you 

Happily  if she sucks and fucks cock she’s bisexual end off.

[finn5555]

Anyway I’ve had my say and this discussion is derailing the thread, happy to discuss elsewhere

[IndigoRocks]

Happily  if she sucks and fucks cock she’s bisexual end off.

Even though she has zero sexual attraction to men and only does it for cash she’s bi … just seems like a weird interpretation of orientation…

(Honestly have that chat with some of them… might help you reconsider your stance).

[IndigoRocks]

Anyway I’ve had my say and this discussion is derailing the thread, happy to discuss elsewhere

Fair. Apologies for my part in derailing the thread. I shall be quiet.   

[Pennine Rover]

This seems to have got off topic.     
In my area which is typical "middle England", I've used the same search on AW for years.  Numbers of escorts grew gradually until 2016 and them levelled off and them started to decline, not I think due to Brexit.  The COVID but since them the numbers in my 25 mile radius search seems to have settled at about 60% of what the 2016 numbers were.  Still plenty of Roms and Thais and the odd Brazilian but it's the local girls that have gone with the average age also rising as there are some girls who have been active for 10 or more years. 
There are perhaps a number of reasons for that; we have more or less full employment in what is a major tourist area and there are plenty of jobs going at £12 to £15 an hour. It also makes accommodation for touring escorts more costly and difficult to come by.  On the other hand the local girls with a good reputation are doing very well. One told me that post COVID she was making over £2,500 a week as guys fulfilled their needs. Another girls I saw recently mid afternoon, told me I was her fifth and last client of the day.

[Cheshuk]

Maybe you due agree with them, but makes no sense!

A guy sucking dick is (in my opinion) bisexual no matter what the dynamic.

The way I see it and assume they do to is that sexuality is based on sexual attraction.

The gay for pay individual has no attraction to the opposite sex and is not turned on by the act.

Yes the act is gay but sexuality is determined by attraction.

Some people don't see sex as a big deal and aren't caught up in stigmas, so see it as an action for money they don't get sexual pleasure from.

Yes it's derailing so will drop it.