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Author Topic: A bit of a rant of the scene right now.  (Read 7806 times)

Offline wristjob

It sort of goes like that, always has. You find a few nice girls who are great for interspersing between new faces, then a few quit and it feels like it's barren. I had a good run recently but now good punts don't feel so great, I think you get a bit jaded doing it too much too. If it's not working take a break, book a holiday, come back when you feel keen and see how it goes.

Offline EasyRider21

Hypocrisy aside; I agree that people should not give in to these higher prices. By paying these inflated prices they are fuelling the overinflated market.

About 10 years ago I went on a vacation to Croatia with 4 mates. One of them was struggling with debt due to some unsound financial decisions he made. He didn't like the fact that all of us were casually going into a bistro or restaurant for lunch. Nothing fancy to be honest (like eating a pizza). But he kept insisting that a vacation for 'real men' involves eating only sandwiches and said other ridiculous things. He obviously didn't want to spend his money and tried telling others they shouldn't spend theirs. Didn't do him any favors, the rest of us grew gradually more resentful of him.

I can't help but think that all comments saying things like 'If you pay X you are a twat' or 'Let's band together to break down prices!' or 'How can you possibly pay this much??' are coming from punters who are resentful because they are getting priced out of the market. I understand you're upset but telling people how to spend their money will rarely do you any favors. It certainly didn't work out for my mate. It may sound harsh but others are not responsible for your predicament.

But let's go a bit further than that...Suppose we band together and break down these 'inflated prices'. What do you think will happen? Economically it's the same as introducing a price cap. One of the very few things economists largely agree on is that they don't work. They just produce a shortage but don't solve the problem. Do you think you will see new talent popping up if they can't earn what they deem as reasonable? Lots of SPs come from abroad and could easily choose another location like Dubai, Switzerland or the Netherlands just to mention a few options.

The fact that SPs complain about the market too should tell you that it's not their uncontrollable greed that's driving up prices. It's all just a sad reflection of our current economic woes.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2023, 07:19:20 pm by EasyRider21 »
Banned reason: White knighting SP he hasn't seen - sending her copies of reviews.
Banned by: daviemac

Offline chadpitt

About 10 years ago I went on a vacation to Croatia with 4 mates. One of them was struggling with debt due to some unsound financial decisions he made. He didn't like the fact that all of us were casually going into a bistro or restaurant for lunch. Nothing fancy to be honest (like eating a pizza). But he kept insisting that a vacation for 'real men' involves eating only sandwiches and said other ridiculous things. He obviously didn't want to spend his money and tried telling others they shouldn't spend theirs. Didn't do him any favors, the rest of us grew gradually more resentful of him.

I can't help but think that all comments saying things like 'If you pay X you are a twat' or 'Let's band together to break down prices!' or 'How can you possibly pay this much??' are coming from punters who are resentful because they are getting priced out of the market. I understand you're upset but telling people how to spend their money will rarely do you any favors. It certainly didn't work out for my mate. It may sound harsh but others are not responsible for your predicament.

But let's go a bit further than that...Suppose we band together and break down these 'inflated prices'. What do you think will happen? Economically it's the same as introducing a price cap. One of the very few things economists largely agree on is that they don't work. They just produce a shortage but don't solve the problem. Do you think you will see new talent popping up if they can't earn what they deem as reasonable? Lots of SPs come from abroad and could easily choose another location like Dubai, Switzerland or the Netherlands just to mention a few options.

The fact that SPs complain about the market too should tell you that it's not their uncontrollable greed that's driving up prices. It's all just a sad reflection of our current economic woes.

Economists are full of shit. They say inflation is good when it's just a too for the rich.

Not everyone will have the luxury of going to dubai, especially since a lot of wgs are moms. But more importantly other nationalities are more sought after than British. People fly to Netherlands of Thailand for sex tourism. The UK can't compete with those.

Sps are probably complaining because their insane pricing strategies are pissing off customers. Sex at the end of the day is a luxury and in these economic times, people are cutting back.

The lack of new talent is less to do with them not earning enough and more to do with only fans and brexit.

Offline Stevelondon

About 10 years ago I went on a vacation to Croatia with 4 mates. One of them was struggling with debt due to some unsound financial decisions he made. He didn't like the fact that all of us were casually going into a bistro or restaurant for lunch. Nothing fancy to be honest (like eating a pizza). But he kept insisting that a vacation for 'real men' involves eating only sandwiches and said other ridiculous things. He obviously didn't want to spend his money and tried telling others they shouldn't spend theirs. Didn't do him any favors, the rest of us grew gradually more resentful of him.

I can't help but think that all comments saying things like 'If you pay X you are a twat' or 'Let's band together to break down prices!' or 'How can you possibly pay this much??' are coming from punters who are resentful because they are getting priced out of the market. I understand you're upset but telling people how to spend their money will rarely do you any favors. It certainly didn't work out for my mate. It may sound harsh but others are not responsible for your predicament.

But let's go a bit further than that...Suppose we band together and break down these 'inflated prices'. What do you think will happen? Economically it's the same as introducing a price cap. One of the very few things economists largely agree on is that they don't work. They just produce a shortage but don't solve the problem. Do you think you will see new talent popping up if they can't earn what they deem as reasonable? Lots of SPs come from abroad and could easily choose another location like Dubai, Switzerland or the Netherlands just to mention a few options.

The fact that SPs complain about the market too should tell you that it's not their uncontrollable greed that's driving up prices. It's all just a sad reflection of our current economic woes.

I’d go along with that.
Puntings easy for me. I can afford it so do it. If I couldn’t afford it I wouldn’t. It’s that bloody simple as far as I’m concerned.

This idea we are all in some kind of punting bretheren and should stick together as it will make prices more affordable.
Bollocks.

I’ll stick to being a twat and pays what I want too.

Offline JontyR

If there was a decent looking new indie, British, SP starting now and offering a good range of services at £100 ph I wouldn't be rushing to make a call. I'd be wondering what the scam is.

Everyone is seemingly complaining about the dearth of decent quality providers, higher rates may (admittedly only may) be more likely to attract new or returning SPs.

Rather than just looking to say we shouldn't be paying higher rates, maybe we should be just seeing that higher rates may be the price we have to pay to attract more SPs?

Offline PilotMan

Except I see the positive ones more than once.

Whereas for your last neutral you paid £210 for just 45 mins (not even an hour) and for someone in their 40s   :dash:

Yep, and of my biggest wastes of money vs value of all my punts.

Offline PilotMan

Sex at the end of the day is a luxury and in these economic times, people are cutting back.

You speak for yourself, it's a necessity for me.

Offline PilotMan

I can't help but think that all comments saying things like 'If you pay X you are a twat' or 'Let's band together to break down prices!' or 'How can you possibly pay this much??' are coming from punters who are resentful because they are getting priced out of the market. I understand you're upset but telling people how to spend their money will rarely do you any favors. It certainly didn't work out for my mate. It may sound harsh but others are not responsible for your predicament.

Nail hit on the head.

Offline RedKettle

Economists are full of shit. They say inflation is good when it's just a too for the rich.



Where did you study economics??

I think they say a modest steady level of inflation is a good sign of a healthy economy. They also say high inflation is bad and recurring high inflation very bad.

Not sure how you see it as a benefit for the rich?

Online Colston36

You speak for yourself, it's a necessity for me.

And me. If I don't see someone at least once a week my life is not complete. For 70 odd years I have had a woman, or women. In the words of the song, it's like breathing in and breathing out.

Offline jamiekinkxxx

I'm not on there, so I don't know personally, but a lot have migrated to Only fans according to members on here.

Me neither. TBH I dont understand people paying for OF (or more teaditional cam services) as there is so much free porn on the internet. I guess with OF or camming you can get pay for (at a premimum) for dedicated 1-1 shows that may add a bit of a thrill, but even so not for me.

Offline jamiekinkxxx

Thats not what I do. I don't give in to ridiculous prices unlike some

This is what it all comes down to though AND has and WILL ALWAYS be repeated by others:

 - Define ridiculous prices, beacuse you defintiition maybe very different to mine.

Check out my recent review. £360 for 2 hours. For the time and experience it was the best £360 and I have spent in a long time.... but I am prepared to pay more than that and it will not be an issue for me.... and believe me I am NOT a big spender compared to many on here and others that just do not use this site at all.

All I am trying to repeatably say on this site is that those that spend >£150ph are not twats, are not being stupud, are not mugs blah blah blah, it is just that money has a different value to someone who would max out at £50ph, £100ph or £150.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 09:31:32 am by jamiekinkxxx »

Offline jamiekinkxxx

Economists are full of shit. They say inflation is good when it's just a too for the rich.

 :D really?

Again I would ask you to define 'rich'

I would guess that you may feel that people are rich that I would not consider rich. Money, wealth etc. is all relative and subjective. Just as is the experience of a punt. Some people may have the same punt but give a different review as they have different expectations... and that may not be just down to how much they pay!

Offline Maak

Getting a regular with decent prices is the best option. DONT FALL IN LOVE THOUGH!!!

Offline Stevelondon

This is what it all comes down to though AND has and WILL ALWAYS be repeated by others:

 - Define ridiculous prices, beacuse you defintiition maybe very different to mine.

Check out my recent review. £360 for 2 hours. For the time and experience it was the best £360 and I have spent in a long time.... but I am prepared to pay more than that and it will not be an issue for me.... and believe me I am NOT a big spender compared to many on here and others that just do not use this site at all.

All I am trying to repeatably say on this site is that those that spend >£150ph are not twats, are not being stupud, are not mugs blah blah blah, it is just that money has a different value to someone who would max out at £50ph, £100ph or £150.


Absolutely spot on 👍🏻

Offline jamiekinkxxx

Getting a regular with decent prices is the best option. DONT FALL IN LOVE THOUGH!!!

Agree.

I've had two really long term regulars in my time and I would recommend that too.

Without asking... one gave me 'mate' rates (was a top escort in London in her time) after a period of time, the other never charged me her increased prices (and she was highly reviewed on here until recently) and both would never consider time a limit.

Both are now retired. The one (the first that I know from around 2000 to about 2005) I am still in contact with and met up with (platonically, she is now married and living in SE Asia) when I was on holiday this year.

« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 09:59:52 am by jamiekinkxxx »

Offline hendrix

This is what it all comes down to though AND has and WILL ALWAYS be repeated by others:

 - Define ridiculous prices, beacuse you defintiition maybe very different to mine.

Check out my recent review. £360 for 2 hours. For the time and experience it was the best £360 and I have spent in a long time.... but I am prepared to pay more than that and it will not be an issue for me.... and believe me I am NOT a big spender compared to many on here and others that just do not use this site at all.

All I am trying to repeatably say on this site is that those that spend >£150ph are not twats, are not being stupud, are not mugs blah blah blah, it is just that money has a different value to someone who would max out at £50ph, £100ph or £150.

I have specific tastes, so, for me, spending even £10 on some kissing, a bj, and a shag is a complete waste of money and yet I see people happily spend £80 for that  :wacko:

Offline chadpitt

Where did you study economics??

I think they say a modest steady level of inflation is a good sign of a healthy economy. They also say high inflation is bad and recurring high inflation very bad.

Not sure how you see it as a benefit for the rich?

It ain't. Inflation outstrips wages. Then people have less to spend

Its a benefit to the rich because they're businessman es and assets owners. So they get to charge more and the income is higher than cost, so they actually benefit.

Offline chadpitt

Yep, and of my biggest wastes of money vs value of all my punts.

"value" lol you paid £80 for just 30 mins on a p&d for one of you other neutrals.

Quit the bull. You clearly pay more than me for experiences that are less than stellar. Then you defend that by acting like a finsub.

Offline jamiekinkxxx

It ain't. Inflation outstrips wages. Then people have less to spend

Its a benefit to the rich because they're businessman es and assets owners. So they get to charge more and the income is higher than cost, so they actually benefit.

... a very simplistic (and not entirely accurate) view I'm afraid. Far more complex than that.

Offline billybobsmith

Getting a regular with decent prices is the best option. DONT FALL IN LOVE THOUGH!!!

Maybe, but with a lot of regulars, things start becoming complacent.  A lot here want variety, so may not go with the same woman more than once or twice.  Others have said that things might get better, whereas others have said the experience is degraded as she knows you're a "sure thing" financially.

There's definitely a lot more neutral and negative reviews about at present.
There's no guarantee either, and there never was, that paying top dollar gets you anything better.  I would rather pay £120/hr for what turns out to be a mundane experience than £180 for the same thing regardless of whether the outlay is trivial (especially if I'm jumping in blind / on the back of other people's reviews).

 

Offline chadpitt

... a very simplistic (and not entirely accurate) view I'm afraid. Far more complex than that.

OK but what's your explanation. Inflation has outstripped wages and that's a fact. This is not recent. Real wages have been falling long before the war in Ukraine.

But I digress. Point is less money for punts for most
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 11:01:46 am by chadpitt »

Offline southcoastpunter

There's definitely a lot more neutral and negative reviews about at present.

more than what? more than there used to be? - couldn't comment as i didn't particularly notice.

More neutral and negative than positive? Just had a very quick look at reviews for most regions - and all are at least 50-50 and most are "more positive than anything else" . so its seems that many guys are still able to find something of interest to them and a reasonable punt.

Offline jamiekinkxxx

But I digress. Point is less money for punts for most

I see you are trying to ignore my quewstions to you earlier at 09:27 and 09:36....

Offline Cheltclient

All in all, what will be will be. Prices have gone up. A lot of people will decide not to pay those prices and will punt less or go for cheaper options. Some will pay those prices. If the business is good, i doubt the prices will come down. If it’s not so good, maybe some escorts will realise and become more competitive. There’s no solution. It’s not like we can go on a collective strike and ensure every punter stops paying the higher prices. And it’s not right to criticise what anyone else will pay for sex. We all have our boundaries of what we will or will not pay.

Do I find it frustrating? Yep. I miss the day where at least once a month I was fucking some hot babe. But again, it is what it is.

Offline chadpitt

I see you are trying to ignore my quewstions to you earlier at 09:27 and 09:36....

Look if you want economic discussions, than estats is your man.

Rich would be probably the top 10% who in 2022, held 43% of all the wealth.

As for what is ridiculous. To me, if your paying £100 for 30 mins when you can get an hour for that much. That to me, is ridiculous.



Offline Mr Sinister

I agree with OP point, in my view and experience punting has gone downhill, the scene has been quite dire for while. Pre-brexit plenty of EE were either going home or to another EU country to work from. Brexit and the pandemic really did a number on the quantity of women travelling in from Europe. Glad I started punting when I did and got the cream of the crop when it came to EE prossies(Polish and Hungarians). Polish WG are scarce right now.

In recent times as another poster mentioned I've gone down different avenues paid civvies(i.e seeking) which has given me great experiences and real VFM even if the women didn't fit my criteria. Because paying £100ph+ for some lacklustre service just doesn't cut it especially if you had back to back negatives/neutrals.

I've gotten back into dating I have an arrangement with a couple of women which just works for me, I still have a browse around prossie sites but it's just the same girls I keep seeing over and over
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 12:43:36 pm by Mr Sinister »

Offline jamiekinkxxx

Look if you want economic discussions, than estats is your man.

Rich would be probably the top 10% who in 2022, held 43% of all the wealth.

As for what is ridiculous. To me, if your paying £100 for 30 mins when you can get an hour for that much. That to me, is ridiculous.

I dont what an economics duscussion. All I am 'trying' to make you realise is that what you define as rich ior ridiculous maybe different to others. So when other people try to tell me or others that spending £xxx on our fun makes us mugs or twats (as Iceman90 stated we were) that is both offensive and not correct, as we have different views on the value of £xxx

« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 12:56:19 pm by jamiekinkxxx »

Offline chadpitt

I dont what an economics duscussion. All I am 'trying' to make you realise is that what you define as rich ior ridiculous maybe different to others. So when other people try to tell me or others that spending £xxx on our fun makes us mugs or twats (as Iceman90 stated we were) that is both offensive and not correct, as we have different views on the value of £xxx

You're right. Someone tell the owners of hotukdeals that people don't care about getting deals and saving money because £210 is night out money.

Come on. We get threads all the time of people complaining or prices. If you're paying more than what you should then you are being foolish. How many times have people stupidly used the dumpsite known as AW when the same wg is on vivastreet for less.




« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 01:13:35 pm by chadpitt »

Offline chadpitt

I agree with OP point, in my view and experience punting has gone downhill, the scene has been quite dire for while. Pre-brexit plenty of EE were either going home or to another EU country to work from. Brexit and the pandemic really did a number on the quantity of women travelling in from Europe. Glad I started punting when I did and got the cream of the crop when it came to EE prossies(Polish and Hungarians). Polish WG are scarce right now.

In recent times as another poster mentioned I've gone down different avenues paid civvies(i.e seeking) which has given me great experiences and real VFM even if the women didn't fit my criteria. Because paying £100ph+ for some lacklustre service just doesn't cut it especially if you had back to back negatives/neutrals.

I've gotten back into dating I have an arrangement with a couple of women which just works for me, I still have a browse around prossie sites but it's just the same girls I keep seeing over and over

I agree. Pre bexit there were hotties galore.

Offline jamiekinkxxx

You're right. Someone tell the owners of hotukdeals that people don't care about getting deals and saving money because £210 is night out money.

Come on. We get threads all the time of people complaining or prices. If you're paying more than what you should then you are being foolish. How many times have people stupidly used the dumpsite known as AW when the same wg is on vivastreet for less.

But that is the thing, what is paying more than you should? I paid £360 for 2hrs for best punt in a very very long time. Is that too expensive? If I paid £15 for a P&D but hated it, is that OK cus it was only £15?

What I am others are saying is that no one else can tell us what we see as value. You can try and say of "but if you could spend £100ph less and get the same", BUT could we? We may want different experiences.

I think in a nutshell guys that say "oh I only pay a max £xxph and if anyone pay more is a mug or a twat" is basically ingnorant of the fact that there are guys out there that really do not give a shit about blowing £1000's as that money to them really is small change. They don't care. Not everyone wants or searches out for a deal. Value is subjective.

It would be like me calling Iceman90 a twat for wasting his money on even seeing a SP cus he obviously cannot really afford to do it and should be saving any change he has left over from his down and out job (just talking like he does) to put in the gas meter so he can keep warm.

We wont say those things though as we dont have an issue with you or Iceman only thinking £50 or £100 punts are worthwhile. Good on you, but don't have a go at us just because we spend x2 x3 or even x10 on a punt if we want to.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 01:44:13 pm by jamiekinkxxx »

Offline billybobsmith

I agree. Pre bexit there were hotties galore.

All dependent on what you define as hot.

There are still women out there, but where I'm not quite sure where.
As I've said, this cost of living issue at present hasn't had an discernible effect on women being "forced" into sex work. 
You can't tell me that all the people "struggling" with food bills, heating, electricity etc. are all sitting at home with a webcam and/or Whatsapping photos to countless men, raking it in, so don't need to actually do anything? (Maybe though someone who would have spent £120 to shag someone is happy spending £50 to watch a video of the same girl?)

Manchester at the end of Jan when people got paid.  Went to one supermarket with a John Lewis next door, and the place was mobbed with people spending £££££, trolleys loaded to the brim etc.  Same with the Trafford Centre - couldn't even find a parking space before lunchtime.  Popped to a McDonalds in Urmston afterwards, and that was packed.
Seems to be no bills to pay, credit cards etc.....loads of disposable income.

Plenty of places where young women may have worked pre-Covid haven't re-opened, or aren't operating at the same levels.  Have they all got super paying jobs elsewhere?
Very few student types appearing, and I doubt student finances have improved so much that they cover everything (unless all student females have stopped going out and are busy studying every night)

There's not that much appearing on AW, SA, Vivastreet or whatever regardless of age...so where are they?
(Well a slight increase to maybe around 30yo on SA which may or may not indicate escorts with a few years experience?)

Still plenty of Roms out there, although less of them isn't a bad thing.
Russians were probably more high end in London.

A lot of the issues with overpaying is that is forces up the average price.
It's like the housing market.  Someone will drop £400k on a one bedroomed flat in London.  A week later someone will pay £500k for that same flat.  They'll sell that for £700k, buy a house in Cornwall and push prices up locally which in turn makes it less affordable for locals.   Locals can't live there, so move away and the area only becomes accessible for the wealthy, but there's nothing there shop, business etc. wise as no-one but a few can afford to live there.
 

« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 01:54:01 pm by billybobsmith »

Offline sensualencounter

Hypocrisy aside; I agree that people should not give in to these higher prices. By paying these inflated prices they are fuelling the overinflated market.
Come on then Chadders, I’ll make the placards, you bring the megaphone and we’ll march on the House of Whores HQ and picket them. Maybe a general strike amongst the Punters’ Union will bring those greedy whores to their knees and they’ll cave in to our demands?

Or more likely they’ll just think you and I are fucking idiots, completely unimportant in the grand scheme of things? I’m going to be a scab and cross that picket line anyway, as I think you are spouting nonsense. But good luck to you protesting, it makes amusing watching.

Offline PilotMan

You're right. Someone tell the owners of hotukdeals that people don't care about getting deals and saving money because £210 is night out money.

Nobody said people don't care about getting good deals, it's just that you fail to see that your point only considers your predicament and assumes everyone else is in the same boat, so therefore we're all stupid.

Others have a different amount of disposable income, and are not the same boat as you, £210 would be a bargain night out for me, I don't think I could manage to do it ;) :P.

I must be one of your so called rich that's created and benefitting from all this inflation  :lol: :lol:, charging my customers more money, squeezing my suppliers, and underpaying my employees - I'm so lucky  :angelgirl:

Offline PilotMan

Come on then Chadders, I’ll make the placards, you bring the megaphone and we’ll march on the House of Whores HQ and picket them. Maybe a general strike amongst the Punters’ Union will bring those greedy whores to their knees and they’ll cave in to our demands?

Or more likely they’ll just think you and I are fucking idiots, completely unimportant in the grand scheme of things? I’m going to be a scab and cross that picket line anyway, as I think you are spouting nonsense. But good luck to you protesting, it makes amusing watching.

Can you post a picture of the placard please, there's an endless demand to recycle it on here every time someone replies to a review complaining how much the OP paid.  :lol:

Offline jamiekinkxxx

Nobody said people don't care about getting good deals, it's just that you fail to see that your point only considers your predicament and assumes everyone else is in the same boat, so therefore we're all stupid.

Others have a different amount of disposable income, and are not the same boat as you, £210 would be a bargain night out for me, I don't think I could manage to do it ;) :P.

I must be one of your so called rich that's created and benefitting from all this inflation  :lol: :lol:, charging my customers more money, squeezing my suppliers, and underpaying my employees - I'm so lucky  :angelgirl:

Well said. I struggle to feed myself on a night out for less than £200, even then I have to throw in the fine wine on top....  :D

Offline jamiekinkxxx

Can you post a picture of the placard please, there's an endless demand to recycle it on here every time someone replies to a review complaining how much the OP paid.  :lol:

It is so easy for them to be 'poor' (by their own definition) and complain

Offline chadpitt

Nobody said people don't care about getting good deals, it's just that you fail to see that your point only considers your predicament and assumes everyone else is in the same boat, so therefore we're all stupid.

Others have a different amount of disposable income, and are not the same boat as you, £210 would be a bargain night out for me, I don't think I could manage to do it ;) :P.

I must be one of your so called rich that's created and benefitting from all this inflation  :lol: :lol:, charging my customers more money, squeezing my suppliers, and underpaying my employees - I'm so lucky  :angelgirl:

But why? Doesn't matter if your a millionaire or an average Joe. Why pay more when you don't have to.

Offline jamiekinkxxx

We don't pay more than we have to. We pay what we want to, what we are comfortable with. It is the same as what you do, it is just £xxx is worth ALOT more to you than us. That doesn't make us mugs, twats or anything else.

It's been said a 1000 times. Why do people buy an Aston Martin when a Nissan will do the same thing which is essentially to get you from a to b in a timely fashion. Both cars are capable of max speed limits, both cars will keep you dry, have in car entertainment blah blah blah. We may choose the Aston Martin because we can afford it. It gives 'us' something 'more' than a Nissan.



« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 02:20:34 pm by jamiekinkxxx »

Offline billybobsmith

Don't think I've spent £200 in total on nights out since my teens ;)

At the end of the day, there's always someone with no more money, and to a lot of us, sense, than you.

Whether I would want to inflate someone's net worth by throwing £500 at her for dinner only Vs. £200 for drinks in my hotel and a few hours of sex, I don't know.
You can see examples of that in London, Manchester etc. where some women baulk at the thought of "only £300" to breathe the same air as her.

Examples of "fatties / munters" on some of these dating sites where they get loads of interest from men.  Pushes up their self-worth and then then won't go with just anyone.  In turn it reduces the supply as most are unwilling to lower themselves to xxx when they could, but probably won't, get yyy, and most men aren't willing, or are unable, to pay to high rates.

The car thing may have the benefit of attracting women.  More likely to attract with a £70k BMW than a £500 rust bucket Nissan.  But then you've got your goldigger types if that's what you want.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 02:23:25 pm by billybobsmith »

Offline luv2kiss54

Whats really p..sing me off atm is the fact that a lot of the fees quoted by a lot of the girls dont include things like kissing and OWO ie you have to pay extra when they used to be included. So they put their costs up and then they want more again for those services.

I contacted one girl recently whose fees were £100 for half hour. I spoke to her on the phone and she was at pains to point out that was the very basic service and if i wanted OWO it would be another £40. I obviously didnt book. She was English and like someone else said very entitled attitude, knew from her telephone manner it would be an expensive disaster.

Offline PilotMan

Manchester at the end of Jan when people got paid.  Went to one supermarket with a John Lewis next door, and the place was mobbed with people spending £££££, trolleys loaded to the brim etc.  Same with the Trafford Centre - couldn't even find a parking space before lunchtime.  Popped to a McDonalds in Urmston afterwards, and that was packed.
Seems to be no bills to pay, credit cards etc.....loads of disposable income.

Same in Cambridge. I went on a Saturday a few months ago, car park was packed (£26 per day!!), shops were packed, every restaurant was really busy (e.g. Carluccios 1 hour minimum wait, busy and not enough staff) (Franco Manca 2 hours book ahead for the next table), Sticks and Sushi packed (30 minutes wait), Wasabi all sold out by 2PM.

The cost of living crisis is disproportionately affecting those on lower incomes, where budgets are tightly managed, I feel for those people as there's little that they can do about it now. This doesn't detract from the fact however, that there's still plenty of people, with plenty of disposable income, for stuff like punting and other "entertainment" experiences.

As for the rant, the complainants are usually the one's in the affected camp, who are bitter that not everyone is suffering as they are and pointing fingers at others, blaming them as being the reason they are paying higher prices.

All I can say to that is when pointing fingers at others, there's always three pointing back at you. We end up where we are, as a result of the choices that we made in life.

Offline PilotMan

But why? Doesn't matter if your a millionaire or an average Joe. Why pay more when you don't have to.

When I'm out I like to mix with winners, paying more means I get to share my space with like minded people, the losers don't get a look in  :hi:

Offline PilotMan

Whats really p..sing me off atm is the fact that a lot of the fees quoted by a lot of the girls dont include things like kissing and OWO ie you have to pay extra when they used to be included. So they put their costs up and then they want more again for those services.

I contacted one girl recently whose fees were £100 for half hour. I spoke to her on the phone and she was at pains to point out that was the very basic service and if i wanted OWO it would be another £40. I obviously didnt book. She was English and like someone else said very entitled attitude, knew from her telephone manner it would be an expensive disaster.

Extras, that's the perennial problem. I assume that there will be extra's now and get these out of the way straight off. Thankfully, many of the reviews on here help to give us the intel in advance before we get as far as inquiring.

Offline JustaPunter

It ain't. Inflation outstrips wages. Then people have less to spend

Its a benefit to the rich because they're businessman es and assets owners. So they get to charge more and the income is higher than cost, so they actually benefit.

Is that really how you think it works?

You have ignored the simple fact that when people have less to spend then Businesses make less money but their costs increase.

You view seems to be based around a very simplistic view of how the economy works.

Offline JustaPunter

But why? Doesn't matter if your a millionaire or an average Joe. Why pay more when you don't have to.
People will pay what they can afford and many are willing to do just that.

But any Business that sees an increase in costs has the choice to pass them on to the consumer.

Hotel Rooms are up in price

Rental Flats are up in price

Utilities are up in price

So why should a SW accept the increased cost without passing it on?

It’s not like they can blackmail the travelling public with spurious wage demands at will?

If you can’t afford something then work harder.

Offline CalQueLon

Thanks for those that have replied too the thread. A lot of input from many sides I just want too add, even though this should be obvious, that punters are the only ones that can determine the amount they want too spend on a punt.

 My personal budget is still good enough to continue as I just paid the rate just last month but my only issue is that in this "Punting life" when we meet these SP's there is a gamble regardless how much you investigate via this sub or even with your past experience with a SP and I am sure many have the regulars and are content with what they are getting I am happy for those people but for me I am not. Nothing too do with anything other than my perspective on the scene, in London btw, there is extras for a GFE experience there are high amounts for 15 mins etc.

 Budgets and disposable income is all different and it is everyone's personal responsibility too make sure they are doing the right thing that they can accept but ultimately it is your choice as it is mine. Britexit and COVID has done a lot too the landscape and there are punters that are affected and others that aren't and on the price side I'm not too affected but the Service, which is not a right I'm always going get, helps me part with my money abit better has for abit not been there enough.

 Again thanks for the interaction I didn't know this was something been talked about alot recently
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Offline CalQueLon

People will pay what they can afford and many are willing to do just that.

But any Business that sees an increase in costs has the choice to pass them on to the consumer.

Hotel Rooms are up in price

Rental Flats are up in price

Utilities are up in price

So why should a SW accept the increased cost without passing it on?

It’s not like they can blackmail the travelling public with spurious wage demands at will?

If you can’t afford something then work harder.

I agree with everything accept the last part about "if you can't afford something work harder" only from the side of the punter handing over cash I do believe they worked hard for but again price aside for a moment it's the service (Not a right too top end service) that is becoming lackluster

Offline JustaPunter

I agree with everything accept the last part about "if you can't afford something work harder" only from the side of the punter handing over cash I do believe they worked hard for but again price aside for a moment it's the service (Not a right too top end service) that is becoming lackluster

There is no financial problem that I know of that can’t be solved by working harder.

You want to see a SW?

You can afford to do so on your basic income?

Then do overtime.


Offline jamiekinkxxx

I agree with everything accept the last part about "if you can't afford something work harder" only from the side of the punter handing over cash I do believe they worked hard for but again price aside for a moment it's the service (Not a right too top end service) that is becoming lackluster

In which case....

If someone cannot afford it, stop or reduce the amount of times they do it to an affordable level.

Its not ricket science really?!  :unknown:

Its the moaning by some and them telling others that they are the problem as we 'pay' too much that effing grates at me.

« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 04:19:24 pm by jamiekinkxxx »