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Offline samsung1

With the prices of everything shooting up are people cutting down on the amount of punts they are having? or are they still at it

Offline chadpitt

There's already threads on the main forum on this subject.

You would think people would reduce punts but it seems there are loads of people splashing out £180 p/hr on heavily filtered lazy chancers.

Prossies have only increased their prices in response to cost of living and plenty of chumps will happily oblige.

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Offline Dave123

Yes, and now an average £60 or £70 just for 15 minutes it’s become a crap shoot.

Offline Adultworkuser

Last time I punted was December, and that was only because the sp had reasonable prices.

Offline robsmith149

Haven't punted since September and probably won't bother until the summer, prices are too high on AW and the quality is poor in local parlours.

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Interesting that Lush are keeping their prices at the same level as a decade or so ago.
I havent used an SP for a good while but I do dablle with sugar babies and their typical price tags are around 200 now compared to 150 pre pandemic. These are what I'm paying at the moment.
I do have a new hobby now where I go over to Agadir for a week at a time and fuck in the morning and then the evening for the full week so save my 'punt money' towards that. Times are tough  :drinks:
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Offline myothernameis

With the prices of everything shooting up are people cutting down on the amount of punts they are having? or are they still at it

Mortgage now paying a extra £60 per month
Electricity and gas, from April extra £100 per month
Tv media, Increase of £20 per month from April
Council tax extra £20 per month

 

Offline samsung1

I can see a few girls dropping their prices as demand weakens

Offline Wood2017

I can see a few girls dropping their prices as demand weakens

Are we convinced demand is decreasing? Not being a smart arse that's a genuine question  :unknown:

There's probably a million and one punters (slight exaggeration lol) that dont use this forum so the only people who really know what demand is like is the escort themselves, even then its probably a mixed bag - i.e. popular girls maybe still popular, less popular girls the same etc etc

Offline Jayne_cobb

I think the lack of options, and the options that are here are over-priced and under reviewed plus less spare cash mean I’m even less likely to risk what I have on a bad punt. So whenever I get the itch I go to see my regular.
Whereas previously I’d intersperse trips to the reg with punts into the unknown.
Now my most regular is Mrs Palm and her five little daughters  :D

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I keep hoping for a new supply of English women looking to supplement their income.....no sign of it yet

I'm not on SA so perhaps they are there
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I keep hoping for a new supply of English women looking to supplement their income.....no sign of it yet

I'm not on SA so perhaps they are there

When you say English I take it you mean Caucasian - I'm not seeing an increase of that particular group on SA. Not any decent ones anyway. I think most of the decent ones are moving to OF.
 Vast majority on SA arent very appealing to me, they're either beyond 30s or are single parents hoping to find a platform that they don't have to compete with the younger ones.
IG is the place to be for chickas if you have your shit together and can spend a bit for a typical 20yo
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Interesting that Lush are keeping their prices at the same level as a decade or so ago.
I havent used an SP for a good while but I do dablle with sugar babies and their typical price tags are around 200 now compared to 150 pre pandemic. These are what I'm paying at the moment.
I do have a new hobby now where I go over to Agadir for a week at a time and fuck in the morning and then the evening for the full week so save my 'punt money' towards that. Times are tough  :drinks:
What's in agadir

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What's in agadir

Heaven  :drinks:

Bonham, you'll love it there...massage parlours galore and well under a ton for a couple of hours of bathing and massage with the fucking  :drinks:

Go to punting abroad section under Agadir ..I've put some write ups of my experiences there....more contributors and also other cities in Morocco
Im mainly into massages and fucking but other nuances available too
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Heaven  :drinks:

Bonham, you'll love it there...massage parlours galore and well under a ton for a couple of hours of bathing and massage with the fucking  :drinks:

Go to punting abroad section under Agadir ..I've put some write ups of my experiences there....more contributors and also other cities in Morocco
Im mainly into massages and fucking but other nuances available too
Wow thanks brumish
Looks like my holladay destination this year.
More advice before I go of enyonei will check out the thread.
Many Many Many  thanks  :thumbsup:

Offline estats

This topic has been heavily covered in the main forum.

For what it is worth, while it is true to say we haven't seen a reduction in price YET, comments a few months ago were that WG's seemed to be less busy than they had been.

So many leading economic indicators still suggest we have a problematic year ahead, to this point many households appear to have used built-up savings or credit to cushion any reduction in living standards, but this is only sustainable for a certain length of time.

In any market you see reducing demand that suppliers try to tend to cover in rising prices, before a reduction in price as demand further reduces, and don't forget you don't have to have nominal price falls to see real term reductions. e.g. if the lush price has stayed the same at £60, but inflation was 10% last year and I had a 10% pay rise, that price has actually reduced in real terms for me.

But as it stands I also believe nominal price reductions will happen.

The economy appears to be doing ok, until it isn't, if you know what I mean, generating a soft landing for the economy has hardly ever been achieved, despite all the central bank talk.

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Heaven  :drinks:

Bonham, you'll love it there...massage parlours galore and well under a ton for a couple of hours of bathing and massage with the fucking  :drinks:

Go to punting abroad section under Agadir ..I've put some write ups of my experiences there....more contributors and also other cities in Morocco
Im mainly into massages and fucking but other nuances available too
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When it says hammam massage I thurt they were males doing the massage in them places like turkey Morocco.

Offline bonham

Heaven  :drinks:

Bonham, you'll love it there...massage parlours galore and well under a ton for a couple of hours of bathing and massage with the fucking  :drinks:

Go to punting abroad section under Agadir ..I've put some write ups of my experiences there....more contributors and also other cities in Morocco
Im mainly into massages and fucking but other nuances available too
When it says hammam I thurt it was males who did massages in places like Morocco turkey

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When it says hammam I thurt it was males who did massages in places like Morocco turkey

Whatever floats your boat Bonham, I'm not judging  :D
In Agadir though, all the 40 odd places that I visited had girls eager to please...they do have men and women only and I can make some enquiries for men only if you like?  :)
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Offline bonham

Whatever floats your boat Bonham, I'm not judging  :D
In Agadir though, all the 40 odd places that I visited had girls eager to please...they do have men and women only and I can make some enquiries for men only if you like?  :)
No thanks brumish just women please  :lol:

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No thanks brumish just women please  :lol:
At the risk of hijacking this thread, go to the Agadir thread and look through the posts there...any questions, I'll answer it there buddy  :drinks:
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Offline chadpitt

This topic has been heavily covered in the main forum.

For what it is worth, while it is true to say we haven't seen a reduction in price YET, comments a few months ago were that WG's seemed to be less busy than they had been.

So many leading economic indicators still suggest we have a problematic year ahead, to this point many households appear to have used built-up savings or credit to cushion any reduction in living standards, but this is only sustainable for a certain length of time.

In any market you see reducing demand that suppliers try to tend to cover in rising prices, before a reduction in price as demand further reduces, and don't forget you don't have to have nominal price falls to see real term reductions. e.g. if the lush price has stayed the same at £60, but inflation was 10% last year and I had a 10% pay rise, that price has actually reduced in real terms for me.

But as it stands I also believe nominal price reductions will happen.

The economy appears to be doing ok, until it isn't, if you know what I mean, generating a soft landing for the economy has hardly ever been achieved, despite all the central bank talk.

The costs of living crisis has been ongoing for well over a year and we haven't seen prices drop. Instead wgs only increased their rates with many punters just giving in to their little heads.


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The costs of living crisis has been ongoing for well over a year and we haven't seen prices drop. Instead wgs only increased their rates with many punters just giving in to their little heads.
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Offline pbrown355

She looks like she's from a freak show. Maybe that's how she justifies the prices!

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Looks like she's had a head transplant from a comic strip  :lol:

Offline Cheltclient

I thought we may see a few more English escorts appear on AW. But as far as I can see, that’s not happened. Almost all English girls are close to £200. I’m odd as slip back a couple years, I’d pay £200 but I had lots of options, a fair few lower priced, and if I was venturing to £200, it would be for a girl who stood out from the others. Must have been how I justified it in my head. It was like ‘looking for £150 but can go to £200 if needs be’ ! With everything seeking to start at £200 for an English girl, my mindset is already put off by the price, as everyone is too expensive, and feels less like a choice. It’s like the average girls start at £200 and those exceptional profiles I might splash out on are even higher.

For my part, the prices had made me far less prolific.

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Another aspect that could be a factor is increase in the 'blow and go' service. Majority of girls, given the choice, would prefer to say hi, extract the cash and then say bye, without having to do anything. The popularity in blow and go is perhaps feeding into that. If punters are spending up to £100 for 10 mins (give or take any unagreed time) then SPs are bound to keep to the arithmetic range of the overall rates.
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Offline Cheltclient

I’ve always had this internal argument about whether I could justify the expenditure as this is an expensive hobby. Back in the day, money was tight and I could just about justify it. It’s odd as these days, got much more money but with all the prices going crazy, find myself frequently losing that internal quandary and deciding to spend my money on something else.

I’m sure there are enough punters to keep paying these prices and they’ll stay where they are. But I was say I’ve always been an enthusiastic escort user so if lots of people like me start turning away, maybe phones might start getting a little dusty

Offline joninbristol

Same here. A couple of very decent English regulars (previously reviewed here) had both priced themselves out of the market, so I'd stopped seeing them, even though I knew they were good meets I'd seen over an extended time (years).
Result: They've both now closed down their AW accounts and moved on to civvie street jobs, as they weren't making enough to cover their costs. One of them even contacted me several times before throwing in the towel, but I told her that her rates had just gone up too high to even consider.

It took a bit of time and trial and error to find replacements for them who charge a reasonable rate, but those who are charging more sensible rates are now getting the cash those previous regulars will never see. Why? Because they've kept their prices sensible and get plenty of repeat business because of that, instead of being greedy and avaricious, and getting no money at all from me.

So in answer to your question samsung, my new regulars are now seeing me as much as much as my old ones used to, and I'm spending about the same (maybe a little less even) for the same number of meets, as I've actively chosen not to prop up the unrealistic, overly ambitious prices that some English princesses think they're worth.Their loss, someone else's gain.

A regular turn of business with 100% of £100 is always a better income than a silent phone with 0% of £200, but sadly, many don't realise this.
Greed gets in the way.

Bottom line: I'm better off working on a reasonable salary, than holding out for a mammoth wage but bringing home nothing at all.
Why is this simple concept so difficult for some to understand ? :unknown:



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Offline ScouserRod

Very true Jon

I can never understand why some girls put their prices up in a difficult market rather than doing the sensible thing and reducing slightly and staying competitive

I am sure your two ex regs would be making much more money if they had done that than they are earning in their civvy jobs and with much less effort !!

Offline samsung1

Same here. A couple of very decent English regulars (previously reviewed here) had both priced themselves out of the market, so I'd stopped seeing them, even though I knew they were good meets I'd seen over an extended time (years).
Result: They've both now closed down their AW accounts and moved on to civvie street jobs, as they weren't making enough to cover their costs. One of them even contacted me several times before throwing in the towel, but I told her that her rates had just gone up too high to even consider.

It took a bit of time and trial and error to find replacements for them who charge a reasonable rate, but those who are charging more sensible rates are now getting the cash those previous regulars will never see. Why? Because they've kept their prices sensible and get plenty of repeat business because of that, instead of being greedy and avaricious, and getting no money at all from me.

So in answer to your question samsung, my new regulars are now seeing me as much as much as my old ones used to, and I'm spending about the same (maybe a little less even) for the same number of meets, as I've actively chosen not to prop up the unrealistic, overly ambitious prices that some English princesses think they're worth.Their loss, someone else's gain.

A regular turn of business with 100% of £100 is always a better income than a silent phone with 0% of £200, but sadly, many don't realise this.
Greed gets in the way.

Bottom line: I'm better off working on a reasonable salary, than holding out for a mammoth wage but bringing home nothing at all.
Why is this simple concept so difficult for some to understand ? :unknown:

I think you are referring to the princess syndrome, yes the ones who are charging £200 do look good, but just because they look good they think they can out-price themselves. Their body their choice etc.

Offline pbrown355

I try not to be a cheapskate when punting although my record may indicate otherwise. However, I can't equate a sexual encounter being worth £200. As a 1 pop guy, I can only equate a 30 min encounter with an absolute max of £100. Even this would be a rarity. Because of prices (and some degree of circumstance) I am punting much less, only 3 visits this year.
More money in my pocket, less in some WG.

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Bottom line: I'm better off working on a reasonable salary, than holding out for a mammoth wage but bringing home nothing at all.
Why is this simple concept so difficult for some to understand ? :unknown:

Pride, ego, vanity, delusion outweighs their business sense

Offline Tantric_mat

I had an interesting conversation with one of my regular fbsm providers.
She has put up her massage cost by £5 as she said the costs of just heating the room was now ridiculous. This seemed reasonable, costs have increased and she needs to cover that.
But then she tried to tell me the extras were going up as well. I’ve known her for a while and I was in a mischievous so asked what I’d be getting for the price increase?
She was confused at first until I explained that she was already covering her additional costs so what was I getting for my extra £5 on a hand job?

Offline estats

The costs of living crisis has been ongoing for well over a year and we haven't seen prices drop. Instead wgs only increased their rates with many punters just giving in to their little heads.

We have not seen any such thing for over a year, let me remind you.

1 - Exactly 12 months ago interest rates in the UK was 0.5%, its now 8 times that and likely to rise further.
2 - The invasion of Ukraine had only just happened, many commodity prices didn't peak until late summer

Given the transmission of monetary policy and the dynamics of the economy (e.g. the saving rate, the fact 1.4 million people roll over mortgage debt this year) and so on, I'd suggest we've probably only seen a cost of living crisis for one quarter of 2022.

People will always turn to savings and credit to maintain the standard of living they want, so these are two key leading indicators to me

It's an age old pattern, you see a false boom and then a crash.

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I haven’t punted in a while for various reasons, cost of living being one of them. Was thinking of trying social media, twitter seems to be going nowhere, any advice for IG? Like are you straight to the point or chat them up first?

Offline blubandy

I only see prices going up... With the rise of things like OnlyFans, the dominance of porn on the internet, and the feminisation of men there will huge amounts of young men who's only interaction with women is through paid means, virtual only initially but like all sexually addictive behaviour that will progress to in person, then the activities will get more hardcore etc etc. In other words there is a flood of simps coming who will pay the higher price

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I haven’t punted in a while for various reasons, cost of living being one of them. Was thinking of trying social media, twitter seems to be going nowhere, any advice for IG? Like are you straight to the point or chat them up first?

Lol...like the way you say chat them up ...haven't thought of that phrase for decades I don't think  :D
Modern day access to girls is unparalleled and you would think the same for the opposite sex. I always find it easier to say hi/ hello and then set out my stall. It's not as staright forward as Tinder or Seeking but it is access to inboxes. I probably get a very small percentage of replies compared to elsewhere but it's another avenue. I'd say if you're flashing certain lifestyle then you're more likely to get replies than my bare chest gets without much else on the profile
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I only see prices going up... With the rise of things like OnlyFans, the dominance of porn on the internet, and the feminisation of men there will huge amounts of young men who's only interaction with women is through paid means, virtual only initially but like all sexually addictive behaviour that will progress to in person, then the activities will get more hardcore etc etc. In other words there is a flood of simps coming who will pay the higher price

I can see why you say this but your suggestion ignores the dynamic of the 99.9% of women that aren't on only fans. 

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I can see why you say this but your suggestion ignores the dynamic of the 99.9% of women that aren't on only fans.

Yes my reply was focused on the fact that there will be an increase in men who have been normalised to pay for female interaction, and an increase in women skilled in milking those men. There are far more men coming through like this, than women on only fans as you say, meaning a higher price will be able to be demanded.

The issue will replicate itself differently with dating apps, but problems will still arise. The top 10% of men will sleep with 80% of the women, pushing the guys who are overweight, feminised, and with zero attractive male traits back into paying onlyfans girls for attention as they get zero matches on dating apps.

What are the odds on these young men putting a year of hard work in the gym, at work, self help/development books etc to become a top 10% man that can easily have multiple women chasing them for sex, or just quitting after a week or so and falling back to the comfort of porn and onlyfans in their room? And when they're brave enough, then grow that behaviour to go and see a sex worker. It will be way more normalised than it is now.

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I haven’t punted in a while for various reasons, cost of living being one of them. Was thinking of trying social media, twitter seems to be going nowhere, any advice for IG? Like are you straight to the point or chat them up first?

If you're reasonably attractive facially, not over weight (belly is in line with chest), above 5'9, and can take/edit a photo then 1 month of a premium subscription to a dating app should sort you with 5/6 women on the go that you find attractive enough to sleep with. The type of British women that you would be happy to pay £60 for half hour if going into a parlour.

You might also match with younger, hotter, women you would be happy to be £100 half hour in the punting world. But competition is much higher for those, and the chance of flaking much higher, that I tend to stick to women that display clear high interest in me. I've gained some really good friends this way, lovely women.

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Yes my reply was focused on the fact that there will be an increase in men who have been normalised to pay for female interaction, and an increase in women skilled in milking those men. There are far more men coming through like this, than women on only fans as you say, meaning a higher price will be able to be demanded.

The issue will replicate itself differently with dating apps, but problems will still arise. The top 10% of men will sleep with 80% of the women, pushing the guys who are overweight, feminised, and with zero attractive male traits back into paying onlyfans girls for attention as they get zero matches on dating apps.

What are the odds on these young men putting a year of hard work in the gym, at work, self help/development books etc to become a top 10% man that can easily have multiple women chasing them for sex, or just quitting after a week or so and falling back to the comfort of porn and onlyfans in their room? And when they're brave enough, then grow that behaviour to go and see a sex worker. It will be way more normalised than it is now.

Agree with most of what you say but just gym work to get into top10% :D
Without some serious wealth, your options are limited, irrespective of what you look like.
Conversely if you're a millionaire, you don't need the gym...so tis true...money is the be all and end all
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The issue will replicate itself differently with dating apps, but problems will still arise. The top 10% of men will sleep with 80% of the women, pushing the guys who are overweight, feminised, and with zero attractive male traits back into paying onlyfans girls for attention as they get zero matches on dating apps.

Do you think 80% of women are going to be happy with this?

I'd also suggest that a good proportion of that 10% of men aren't actually going to be looking for their own little harem. 

Offline chadpitt

Do you think 80% of women are going to be happy with this?

I'd also suggest that a good proportion of that 10% of men aren't actually going to be looking for their own little harem.

No but its the choice they keep making. Chase the top 10% who just p&d them. Then complain all men are like that, when they are the ones who created that culture.

See this video from justpearlythings

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It is happening because there are lot more single men then single women. Either some men are serial cheaters or there's a lot of lesbiens out there.
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No but its the choice they keep making. Chase the top 10% who just p&d them. Then complain all men are like that, when they are the ones who created that culture.

See this video from justpearlythings

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It is happening because there are lot more single men then single women. Either some men are serial cheaters or there's a lot of lesbiens out there.

You're kinda getting in to the whole incel misogynistic paradigm there.

And BTW - you miss quoted by 50%   ------ it was top 20% of men that women chase, not 10% as you say above.

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You're kinda getting in to the whole incel misogynistic paradigm there.

And BTW - you miss quoted by 50%   ------ it was top 20% of men that women chase, not 10% as you say above.

The 10% was to repeat what the other guy said. But at least the video didn't cost £210.

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We have not seen any such thing for over a year, let me remind you.

1 - Exactly 12 months ago interest rates in the UK was 0.5%, its now 8 times that and likely to rise further.
2 - The invasion of Ukraine had only just happened, many commodity prices didn't peak until late summer

Given the transmission of monetary policy and the dynamics of the economy (e.g. the saving rate, the fact 1.4 million people roll over mortgage debt this year) and so on, I'd suggest we've probably only seen a cost of living crisis for one quarter of 2022.

People will always turn to savings and credit to maintain the standard of living they want, so these are two key leading indicators to me

It's an age old pattern, you see a false boom and then a crash.

Tell that to the wikipedia page

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Let's not forget the markets US markets tanked to a record low in July 22. Plus bitcoin plummeting close to the same time.

I agree it doesn't look like things will improve until next year.

But even then, WGs would rather quit and starve then lower their prices.