"Once a punter, always a punter"... But, why?

[Jonestown]

Does that include wanking. (Asking for a friend )
 

If it was demonstrated on Blue Peter it's fine, if not it's the devil's work and your friend will be in for a hard time when he gets to the pearly gates.

[Colston36]

I didn't start - apart from some extremely kinky stuff in Germany - till my last live-in relationship broke down 8 years ago when I was 78. I've enjoyed it hugely ever since. Partly the sex but also I rather like whores. There's one in Yorkshire I haven't seen for 5 years. She's retired but we write or talk almost every day.   

[GreyDave]

    I Punt therefore I am ....as Scorattys or Dustcarts put it 

I ve Punted since pre age 16 in Soho walk up I started in 1976 the summer of extreme heat and have done so though several long term realtionships and 2 wifes. I started with a Singaporean and have worked my way around the globe so to speak and shape wise with WGs its great ...I made a few on the Mumsnet site angry when I explained this a while ago My Dad a complete shister cheated on my mother  she knew what blokes were like and I sat and listened with my sibblings as she said you father is mean and tightfisted  I dont mind him having an afternoon or 15 min of fun BUT he has conspired to set up another family thats why I am throwing him out! Other men would of just seen a WG and waked away....
Harsh but true I have lived by this and try to have fun at leat once a month now I spend a small ammount less than mates do on footy some times I treat myself latly I like couples and DVP when I started it was Big titters and blondes now I ll shag anything as an eariler poster put it Time .....those rolexes just measure your most valuble thing ....

[diver ted]

I have tried not to many, many times…however every period of abstinence has preceded a period of greater and greater indulgence. (Hooke's law of elasticity - though I may be stretching it...)

I’d like to blame the political and economic, ‘Boom/Bust Cycle’ of the 80’s but difficult to do that as I started punting many years before the term was even in common usage.

Despite ongoing physical complications and ever advancing years, my personal ‘Bum/Bust Cycle’ continues apace.

Why, only recently I was medically advised by the resident AW ‘Doc Holliday’ on buying furniture to assist me in continuing to punt. Sadly, no NHS cost exemption applies!

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[mr.bluesky]

If it was demonstrated on Blue Peter it's fine, if not it's the devil's work and your friend will be in for a hard time when he gets to the pearly gates.

Bugger that's me up shit....I mean that's my friend up shit creek without a paddle. 

[django0700]

As a punter, once you’ve seen and experienced what it is that we do, nothing will be the same.

The ‘you know you’re a punter’ thread is a prime example of this. Many a time I’ve referenced punting related puns or activity or places and friends have cluelessly not known (or maybe they have) what the hell I'm talking about, but it’s those experiences that stay with you.

I also feel that what you learn about sex from punting is generally quite unique. I’ve had a few long term sexually uninhibited relationships, but it’s only really punting that allows you live out certain fantasies. “Real life” sex can also sometimes be quite plain in comparison.

+1 Agreed 

[webpunter]

Come up to mid anglia, the usual choice will make you want to give it up;(..

 
The thought of driving miles to see some over-priced crappy SP 
You could move to Milton Keynes which is wall-to-wall hooker central
Even Northampton aint that bad punting wise
Tho the rota at Soft Touch there usually aint the best [a waste of a pukka venue & proper british run parlour]

[mikef2008]

What keeps punters with OHs, like me, going is the sheer variety of girls on offer. You can never get tired of the same thing

[pantywetter]

A lot of vices like smoking, drinking, drugs or gambling are quite destructive if taken to excess.

Paying for sex doesn’t really have the same downsides.  It isn’t bad for your health and if you can afford it then it won’t bring you down financially.

For me though I do it because I like the frequency, variety and being able to indulge in everything I like guilt and embarrassment free.

[WelshClipper]

My response is twofold.

Once you learn how easy it is the main barrier is removed and it never returns. So even if I quit for a year, the process doesn’t alter. I am sure it would be true after 5 or 10 years. Like losing your virginity, impossible to go back.

It keeps me in better shape than I otherwise would be. Not that I was a slob before, but I have a keen reason to maintain myself as best I can for as long as I can.

 

[thebastard]

I've never punted whilst in a relationship, I'm justifying it to myself that I'm single and able to enjoy myself atm so why not?

Agree with some of the sentiments in this thread though:

It's crazy how easy it is to arrange
Knocking on a door and hearing her walking towards it in a pair of heels - think I'm completely addicted to the rush I feel
I've become a lot fussier with selection of WGs so unless it's a regular there's some research involved, basically a sub-standard punt just doesn't do it for me
Do I regret it - in some ways yes and in lots of ways no. I feel the real challenge will be to remain faithful to a partner - I can just see myself straying

[Geko12]

I started punting at 24, I’m now 32, the longest I’ve gone without a punt in those years is 9 months and that’s because I was in a relationship.

The cycle for me is always the same.

Every punt i always say it’s the last for me, need to stop wasting money etc could spend it on other things etc
So I have a cleansing period, delete all porn/refrain from watching porn, don’t log into aw etc, keep myself busy
Busy I mean work hard and play sports etc.
Then a few weeks later or a month, it all gets too much, feel lonely, all my friends are married with kids etc and seem to be busy
Something triggers my hornyness, see a nice hot women in leggings with a massive arse( like a few days ago) and then I’m arranging a punt , with a voice in my head saying Lifes short you deserve it for working hard
I don’t think twice , withdraw the hard earns £ , punt and feel drained, go home and the whole cycle starts

I know the cure is probably finding a very long term companion/girlfriend/wife
But whose to say in the next 15 years I wouldn’t want to fuck a 20 year old something whilst my wife had rolls and is 50+

That being said I was happiest when I was in a relationship

Once a punter always a punter tbh, eventually you will come
Back at some point.

[kingmg]

If you go through a divorce and the Mrs takes half your house you were as well punting without the headache

[webpunter]

If you go through a divorce and the Mrs takes half your house you were as well punting without the headache

Half if you are lucky

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[Secret4u]

I've had much more fun with escorts than most girlfriends or any one of my partners. Ultimately, the biggest whore I got least pleasure from was my ex wife. On the other hand, I've had some great times with some beautiful service providers who have been honest and open about what they want in return. What I've learnt through bitter experience is to trust sex workers more than women who want to date me.

[dobob]

I am sure there a lots of older punters out there like me who are married or have a partner, but whose relationship at home is now a happy, but platonic companionship, because she's no longer interested in sex and possibly also because you're no longer sexually interested in her, while you are still great friends and enjoy living together and looking after each other. If it's not hurting the household budget, I don't see any reason why men in this situation shouldn't carry on punting until they lose interest (heaven forfend!). I know my wife turns a blind eye to my odd late evenings in London or my longer than usual trips on household errands.

Ideally, we could all be open about this, but sadly, those who want to criminalise prostitution seem to be utterly against open discussion or compromise.

Commiserations!

[webpunter]

I am sure there a lots of older punters out there like me who are married or have a partner, but whose relationship at home is now a happy, but platonic companionship, because she's no longer interested in sex and possibly also because you're no longer sexually interested in her, while you are still great friends and enjoy living together and looking after each other. If it's not hurting the household budget, I don't see any reason why men in this situation shouldn't carry on punting until they lose interest (heaven forfend!). I know my wife turns a blind eye to my odd late evenings in London or my longer than usual trips on household errands.

+1
IMO this keeps lots of relationships going
Some most of my mates have the same t-shirt
Going through the change effects some wimin more than others & if not much sex drive before then diddly chance after
Its amazing how early on this can start
Kids can be the 1st nail in the coffin & then they become adept at using a nail gun

Ideally, we could all be open about this, but sadly, those who want to criminalise prostitution seem to be utterly against open discussion or compromise.

Its the feminazis
Chocolate eating [lacking love & greedy eater] m-net munters
They know that they aint the best to look at
& as soon as they open their mouths any remnants of attraction rapidly evaporate
They detest it that their down-trodden OHs can quite easily find professionals who will oblige
& finding / assessing these professionals is where UKP slots in sooooo nicely
And its a lot of fun on here too 
As for criminalising the world's oldest profession good luck with that 

[Thephoenix]

I am sure there a lots of older punters out there like me who are married or have a partner, but whose relationship at home is now a happy, but platonic companionship, because she's no longer interested in sex and possibly also because you're no longer sexually interested in her, while you are still great friends and enjoy living together and looking after each other. If it's not hurting the household budget, I don't see any reason why men in this situation shouldn't carry on punting until they lose interest (heaven forfend!). I know my wife turns a blind eye to my odd late evenings in London or my longer than usual trips on household errands.

Ideally, we could all be open about this, but sadly, those who want to criminalise prostitution seem to be utterly against open discussion or compromise.

Commiserations!

It should be available on the NHS and free to pensioners.

......Oh! on second thoughts you'd have to wait at least a month, and then only get 10 minutes phone sex.

[standardpostage]

It should be available on the NHS and free to pensioners.

......Oh! on second thoughts you'd have to wait at least a month, and then only get 10 minutes phone sex.

[Brokenshed]

I stopped. I’ve returned to this forum because returning to punting is a good distraction from other stresses in life.
But I’ve lost my nerve!
If I get it back I’ll explain why I returned and I’ll write a review on what happened and who with. Until then I’ll look for reviews on friendly chatty escorts good at rehabilitating former punters

[Colston36]

I like it.
It’s not harming anyone.
I can afford it and there’s no emotional attachments that seem to fog up everyday lives.
Finding what I like in vanilla street is such hard work. Why bother.
Why does paying for a shag in its many variations have to be dissected and thought of as being so bloody complicated.
It ain’t

This "Finding what I like in vanilla street is such hard work" is the key for me.

Even when I was young and very well off it took time, effort and money to find more or less what I wanted. And to find it exactly, in detail, nigh-on impossible. Because what I wanted was way out of the common run.

The only way to fulfil my dreams? Pay someone unshockable who's in the business of fulfilling dreams in exchange for money.

For me there is a bonus because I like whores. Have since I was young, though then I didn't pay. Or did I? My last wife, who was kinky as hell cost me over a million when we divorced.

Thank God I held on to enough to fuel my lust, and enjoy the nigh on impossible. Tomorrow I shall see a girl young enough to to be my granddaughter.

But it's not the age gap that counts. It's that she knows what I want and even suggested bringing a friend.

[webpunter]

This "Finding what I like in vanilla street is such hard work" is the key for me.

Even when I was young and very well off it took time, effort and money to find more or less what I wanted. And to find it exactly, in detail, nigh-on impossible. Because what I wanted was way out of the common run.

The only way to fulfil my dreams? Pay someone unshockable who's in the business of fulfilling dreams in exchange for money.

For me there is a bonus because I like whores. Have since I was young, though then I didn't pay. Or did I? My last wife, who was kinky as hell cost me over a million when we divorced.

Thank God I held on to enough to fuel my lust, and enjoy the nigh on impossible. Tomorrow I shall see a girl young enough to to be my granddaughter.

But it's not the age gap that counts. It's that she knows what I want and even suggested bringing a friend.

Respec 

[Thepacifist]

Mens insatiable desire for variety can not be underestimated. Do you want to eat steak every day for the rest of your life? Sometimes I might fancy some chicken. One woman can not wholly sexually satisfy a man. There will always be a desire for more. The best pussy is new pussy 

[webpunter]

Mens insatiable desire for variety can not be underestimated. Do you want to eat steak every day for the rest of your life? Sometimes I might fancy some chicken. One woman can not wholly sexually satisfy a man. There will always be a desire for more. The best pussy is new pussy 

Sometimes on new pussy, othertimes i like knowing whats gonna be on the menu
Especially if its for something specific, like very skilled edging

The new pussy magic door moment & anticipation is always there
& fingers crossed it doesnt turn into anticipointment

[Stevelondon]

Sometimes on new pussy, othertimes i like knowing whats gonna be on the menu
Especially if its for something specific, like very skilled edging

The new pussy magic door moment & anticipation is always there
& fingers crossed it doesnt turn into anticipointment

I would take a guess and say “Anticipation” is probably one of our favourite words or feelings.

[standardpostage]

It's just a little gift to ourselves,

because we work, or have worked, so hard 

[PumpDump]

Mens insatiable desire for variety can not be underestimated. Do you want to eat steak every day for the rest of your life? Sometimes I might fancy some chicken. One woman can not wholly sexually satisfy a man. There will always be a desire for more. The best pussy is new pussy 

+1

[Philter69]

Same as many others. I absolutely love shagging loads of different women. Definitely an addiction but not one I am planning to kick anytime soon given the pleasure it provides.

[BillT]

I imagine my story is similar to a lot of guys on here. When I was a horny 18 year old at college. I wanted so desperately to lose my virginity. But got no where. The college I went to had very few ladies in it full stop! As I moved into work, I became freinds with some female work colleagues. I asked out a couple as we seemed to enjoy each others company. But they always let me down gently. But still years passed and I was still a virgin and had never had a girlfriend! And none of my femle friends ever suggested setting me up with anyone!

I dont think I was some weirdo. I doubt my freinds knew or even cared about my lack of success. I could go out on a night out, get wasted, letch at the ladies in the short skirts on the dancefloor. And like most of my social circle, never pull and go home to have a wank!

Time passed, and I got no where despite asking out several women. And in my late 20s! I paid to visit a lady at a well known Milton Keynes establishment! Finally I figured the monkey would be off my back, and I would finally be able to get into a relationship. The invisible "virgin" sign only visible to single women would evaporate! I was awful, and I had serious ED, the lady was sympathetic. But in the end I just wanked my half erect cock onto her tits and left. Dejected!

But no matter. It would be only a matter of time before I got a GF now. I had a social circle, I was slowly getting my dress sense together. I had a cool partyboy haircut. I had a GSOH.

Nope!

6 months later I booked with a well known London Agency to see one of their superstars. She was lovely. Going to her flat felt natural, normal. She was an amazing GFE. I went down on a girl for the first time. I CIM with her. I left with a spring in my step. Thats it I thought. Lets have a civvie relationship.

Nope!

8 months later I rebooked the same girl. Again, had fun. No GF had appeared in my life. So 3 months later a 3rd booking. Also lovely. The girl in question will always be my favourite. the joy of rose tints! Long since retired.

Then 5 months later another booking with the same agency but different lady. And that was it! At least every month another girl. Some more than once. End of that year I had a hiatus. My social circle changed. I had a few dates. I figured Id leave Punting behind.

But no. A year or so later, having NEVER had sex with a civvie. I returned to punting. Not so frequently. But maybe every 2-3 months. Then a year or so later another hiatus for about 18 months. And then a return! Few more ladies. Then a breaking point.

I got deep into the dating apps. My desperation was huge! I wanted a GF, I wanted normality. I met a girl I started seeing her. But she was not at all interested in sex! It was a disaster! We went our seperate ways. Another 2 years passed. And I relented back to the same MK establishment. Another girl.

And the cycle repeated. Ive spent the last 2 years trying to get something. Ive had multiple dates from the apps. But the ladies never want to have a second date. Or I dont want to see them again! Its clear many just want a free night out! So I try to limit those to just a drink or 2!

At this point I have to assume that actually i AM a bit weirder than I think. Perhaps it IS my fault. Plus I see my friends fawning over unsuitable, low value women. And I dont even know what I want anymore. I sit here alone in my house and suspect I will die alone.

But currently I've got my eye on 2 ladies I want to see in the next month to 6 weeks. So I guess the adage is true...

Does that include wanking. (Asking for a friend )
 

Yes. IMO You should try to avoid wanking. And porn. I genuinely recommend a nofap lifestyle.

[stampjones]

I think it comes down to two things why I’ll never give it up. As has been said, lots of different pussy is something I could never give up. But also its such a faff with civvies. I mean you just have to go through so much shit before and after you get them into bed. And the ones Im likely to pull are nowhere near as hot as the girls I regularly see on seeking. Maybe Im addicted, I dont know, but its a pretty good thing to be addicted to if I am

[JontyR]

Yes. IMO You should try to avoid wanking. And porn. I genuinely recommend a nofap lifestyle.

Jesus Christ mate, after reading your story I wouldn’t listen to you giving directions to the station let alone lifestyle advice.

[whiskeygogo]

And the cycle repeated. Ive spent the last 2 years trying to get something. Ive had multiple dates from the apps. But the ladies never want to have a second date. Or I dont want to see them again! Its clear many just want a free night out! So I try to limit those to just a drink or 2!

There is quite a lot to unpack here, but this is a mistake, these women who like going to bars, are looking for a fun time. they're not coming back because they aren't having fun, if you enjoy their company do not impose these sort of limits. Alternatively, look for someone who's into a particular hobby, then you don't need to entertain them in a bar, but you will need to be passionate about said hobby. In both cases though, just make sure you are both having a good time without worrying about the end result. I would also say that not having any relationship experience is a problem, but I don't have any suggestions for that.

[Chazz]

Yes. IMO You should try to avoid wanking. And porn. I genuinely recommend a nofap lifestyle.

Bill, Are you really interested in sex, or do you think that you should be because that's what society says? It's OK to be asexual - it's just another colour on the broad spectrum of human sexuality. If you're not wanking, and all your meets are as disappointing as the one you've reviewed, if I was in your position I'd be tempted to give it all up and try to find another interest instead. If you're after companionship, how about getting back with the GF who wasn't into sex either?

If you're determined to continue the punting route, I'd suggest you try FSBM. Take all the pressure off yourself and relax and enjoy the sensations. There are plenty of London agencies offering Tantric and Nuru massages. Book a whole hour and let yourself go.

Actually, in your case I'd consider booking a session with a sex therapist rather than a sex worker. You can't expect a normal SP to address your needs properly, and you're much more likely to make a breakthrough with a professional therapist.  Sorry,  but I don't have any recommendations though .

[Payyourwaymate]

I imagine my story is similar to a lot of guys on here. When I was a horny 18 year old at college. I wanted so desperately to lose my virginity. But got no where. The college I went to had very few ladies in it full stop! As I moved into work, I became freinds with some female work colleagues. I asked out a couple as we seemed to enjoy each others company. But they always let me down gently. But still years passed and I was still a virgin and had never had a girlfriend! And none of my femle friends ever suggested setting me up with anyone!


At this point I have to assume that actually i AM a bit weirder than I think. Perhaps it IS my fault. Plus I see my friends fawning over unsuitable, low value women. And I dont even know what I want anymore. I sit here alone in my house and suspect I will die alone.

I appreciate the honesty of your post but sorry, it's your fault. Instead of focusing on building your life and fufilling your potential you got caught up centering losing your virginity and women around your life. What did you think would happen exactly? Why is your happiness centered so much around women? That seems to be the crux of your problem in my opinion. Women can sniff desperation from a mile away unfortunately, does not matter how nice you are, desperation or "neediness" is not attractive.

Just be happy you did not get married and divorced to be left a financial wreck and still alone.

[BillT]

Thanks for the replies. I dont want people to think I'm a complete Sack of Shit. I doubt my work colleagues or friends would think I'm a hopeless case. I can still hold my own in a social environment, I can hold eye contact nit just stare at my shoes. I can make people laugh. I'm good at my job!

I just cant get into a relationship. Probably becasue Ive had so little experience of them. I will admit Ive also missed the signs. There have been times on dates where I've thought she wasnt into me, and binned her off only to have her clearly be surprised that I've wound it up and offered to walk her back to the station.

 And whilst it does preterb me. I dont spend every moment of my homelife upstairs in my bed wishing a lady would fall through the loft and into my arms! 

... But also its such a faff with civvies. I mean you just have to go through so much shit before and after you get them into bed. And the ones Im likely to pull are nowhere near as hot as the girls I regularly see on seeking...

This is where I'm at. On both points. I get that very few guys get sex on a first date, but when your several dates in, and its still not looking likely. Why waste any more time? Shes clearly not into you at that point, and I cant be bothered to try and pressure a lady into sleeping with me. So I can always rely on the accomodating ladies of the Agencies and AW

Regarding looks, I'm not expecting a model in real life. Just someone my age or so who doesnt look like they eat an entire pack of biscuits every night! That seems to get more difficult every day! 

Alternatively, look for someone who's into a particular hobby, then you don't need to entertain them in a bar, but you will need to be passionate about said hobby..

I find that so very few women have any hobbies at all besides. Going on holiday to a sunny beach. Or constant party lifestlye of dinners and drinks. Or going to watch Rugby to perv the players!

Not saying they arent out there. Occassionally I'll see someone say they love hiking up big hills. And although its not my thing, Id be willing to give it a go. But its seems strangly hard for women to show their true interests.

... Women can sniff desperation from a mile away unfortunately, does not matter how nice you are, desperation or "neediness" is not attractive.

Actually I think women can sniff "this guy isnt getting sex" (I dont think they can tell if its paid sex or civvie though!  )

I noticed when I was seeing escorts regualrly for a few years that women were more amenable in general to me. Sexless men give off a vibe that women can spot. Which of course means its a self fulfilling thing. You dont get sex, you give off that vibe, no woman wants to engage with you, you dont get sex....

Just be happy you did not get married and divorced to be left a financial wreck and still alone.

Well there is that!

I never envisage getting married. Too many of my freinds/work colleagues have married and in nearly every case the woman has been the one to file for divorce or cheat after a few years. I dont know if seeing relationships fall apart so regularly has some deep effect on me. But it feels a fools errand to risk so much for a piece of paper!

[Handel2020]

I appreciate the honesty of your post but sorry, it's your fault. Instead of focusing on building your life and fufilling your potential you got caught up centering losing your virginity and women around your life. What did you think would happen exactly? Why is your happiness centered so much around women?

Because he's a straight man? I have found building a career and having ambition didn't do much to alleviate the depression that comes with low self-esteem and loneliness. It tends to be people who have only experienced this feeling between relationships who give this kind of advice. Loneliness after a break up is not the same as long term loneliness. Not even close.

[Payyourwaymate]

Because he's a straight man? I have found building a career and having ambition didn't do much to alleviate the depression that comes with low self-esteem and loneliness. It tends to be people who have only experienced this feeling between relationships who give this kind of advice. Loneliness after a break up is not the same as long term loneliness. Not even close.

What I said had nothing to do with building a career or having ambition. A career is irrevelant to happiness, ambition can be anything a person wants it to be. It was about doing what he wanted for himself and finding happiness from within and not from basing a large part of his self esteem around chasing women and sex due to falling victim to societal constraints and social engineering that somehow getting a woman is fufilling to a mans esteem and purpose.

[stampjones]

@BillT sorry my comment wasnt in reply to yours - was more a general response to the thread. I certainly dont have a problem getting civvies to sleep with me and most of my friends dont either (or didnt back when we were young). Not trying to make you feel bad there, but I do disagree with your comment that most guys struggle to get laid. The point I was making wasnt that its impossible, just that its much more effort than phoning up an escort and as Ive gotten older I just cba making that effort. So for me escorts (well mostly SBs) is pretty much all Im interested in and hence why I’ll always be a punter

[Handel2020]

What I said had nothing to do with building a career or having ambition. A career is irrevelant to happiness, ambition can be anything a person wants it to be. It was about doing what he wanted for himself and finding happiness from within and not from basing a large part of his self esteem around chasing women and sex due to falling victim to societal constraints and social engineering that somehow getting a woman is fufilling to a mans esteem and purpose.

I take your point but however it is explained I just can't see it. I have lived a different life I suppose.

Basing your self-esteem and development in life on relationships with the opposite sex seems to be a healthy way to develop, have good self-esteem and live your life. I can't see any way around that. I have thought about it a lot in the past and the fact is that self acceptance and self-esteem seem to be closely related to experiencing yourself through other people and particularly through romantic and intimate relationships. If you have found a substitute for that then good for you. I haven't, and don't know anyone who has.

[Brokenshed]

I returned to punting yesterday.
Why, because after 6 or more months, it didn’t matter what I did, I was still stressed out by work.
So, I saw there was a woman I fancied on the rota of an agency. Phoned, booked and punted. She was as good as I hoped.
I left feeling like a weight had been lifted.
I’ll review later.

[Philter69]

I returned to punting yesterday.
Why, because after 6 or more months, it didn’t matter what I did, I was still stressed out by work.
So, I saw there was a woman I fancied on the rota of an agency. Phoned, booked and punted. She was as good as I hoped.
I left feeling like a weight had been lifted.
I’ll review later.

I know that feeling. I went through the same. Better than prozac but less likely to be available on the NHS.